The Syndicate

rabbit8 wrote:Eloh was Waldo, could have stolen them got lynched. I got an amber necklace from her for voting first.

What you get Dom?

If the celestials don't have then likely the civvies don't either.

Then there was LC who was NKed.......

Get anything JC......

Waldo could have up to what 6 items.....

Rabbit8 (7), Dom (9), Long Con (10), Elohcin (11), juliets (12), Black Rock (13), Bullzeye (14), S~V~S (15), Bass_the_Clever (16), birdwithteeth11 (17)

Bullzeye wrote:

S~V~S wrote:So did ours. Which was why the baddie strategy of NKing the people leading lynches on civvies baffled us Lol.

I genuinely don't understand how nobody else seemed to realise who you all were. If I'd been a civ I'd have suspected people for it. I was hoping I'd be able to plant doubts in your/TH's minds about people who were going after you so hard and that probably helped my death. But regardless, for all we knew it was just a matter of time before this very obvious 5-person civ-friendly team decided to go after the actual baddies, and we couldn't let that happen.

You weren't annoying us... Well not all of us... I found it quite funny actually that people seemed so oblivious. As I said earlier, the only person we really killed purely for being a Celestial was Splints. Golden was one of the initial names we threw out as potential Celestials, but we weren't sure. DP died more because if he'd been lynched his team would become trusted. TH seemed like he was coming after us.

Bullzeye wrote:

Dom wrote: So I was killed because you were "annoyed" with the vouch I made for Canuck?

But SVS lived?-- in retrospect I don't know how I didn't pick up on it.

TBH that's BS.

When half the civs left are vouching for the other half, the game becomes stupidly difficult for the mafia. So the people who vouch get killed to deter others from making the same choice. Canuck's inactivity meant she wasn't an issue for us, but she was still practically a confirmed civ along with you. So you died. A big reason why we killed Rabbit was SVS' vouch for him. MM and LC were killed for being too good at the game, we had reason to believe BR was a dangerous civ, and you've seen why we killed Celestials. Who do people expect the baddies to kill, if not those who pose the biggest threats or cause them the most problems?

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:Roles, no. Why would you switch roles?

I dont know why we did, but we did.

thellama73 wrote:

Day 4

juliets wrote:SVS, Metalmarsh subbed in for A Person and then switched roles with Bass (or it could have been the other way around, A person switched roles with Bass and then Metalmarsh subbed in for A Person, it really doesn't matter which happened first).

It only makes sense that to switch roles you'd have to be of the same alignment, otherwise one of the two would know who a whole team of people were.

Metalmarsh died at night so he had to be a civ or a celestial. I don't think he was a celestial. So Bass, if he's the same alignment as MM has to be civ.

Something else happened in this time period sealed the deal for me. I can't tell you what without completely outting Bass.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Well I can't wait for a good laugh. lol

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Rabbit I'm not bad. I dont know what makes you think that.

Black Rock wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

Black Rock wrote:I got the tubes from BWT actually. I did not fake it or try to save him. I heard what I heard. I heard, "let's crucify Bullz or Dom" "Haha sounds good to me". What would you think with this information?

Sounds like SVS TBH.

But that's knowing Bullz was bad and hindsight is, well you know.

I thought it sounded like baddie plotting.

LizKeen wrote:Well that was quick, I like a host who's on it


I'm guessing SVS's will wasn't stolen because they were too busy stealing my ear tubes. But not before I overheard something. I don't know much but my advice today would be: Zombarella - be very careful who you put your vote on today. And everyone should be on the lookout for easy lynches.

I hope I was allowed to say all that. I only confirmed that I could say the tubes were stolen.


Also- RIP BR

And those pictures are great!

Black Rock wrote:I got the tubes from BWT actually. I did not fake it or try to save him. I heard what I heard. I heard, "let's crucify Bullz or Dom" "Haha sounds good to me". What would you think with this information?

Dom wrote:

Black Rock wrote:
Didn't you do the same?

Well at this point I hope I was tricked. I hope my info WAS the Celestials and I'm hoping they know what they are talking about.

No?

rabbit8 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Bye Bullz~ sorry we suck

rabbit8 wrote:

juliets wrote:How unsportsmanlike.

I hate it that I was so naive about that info. But congratulations to all you who saw through it

Do you believe BR is a civvie?

Who had Liz' ear tubes? Can we establish a chain of custody for them? Becasue that was what allowed Liz to here snippets of BTS, right?

First vote for Liz.

Metalmarsh89 (6),

MM was killed the next night.

Baddies have ear tubes.

Is this accurate-- I'm a bit confused.


Rabbit-- I got an Ivory Arrow.

S~V~S wrote:I thought Liz said someone stole them from her. There was a civvie thief, and a Celestial thief.

S~V~S wrote:Bye Bullz~ sorry we suck

rabbit8 wrote:

juliets wrote:How unsportsmanlike.

I hate it that I was so naive about that info. But congratulations to all you who saw through it

Do you believe BR is a civvie?

Who had Liz' ear tubes? Can we establish a chain of custody for them? Becasue that was what allowed Liz to here snippets of BTS, right?

juliets wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

juliets wrote:How unsportsmanlike.

I hate it that I was so naive about that info. But congratulations to all you who saw through it

Do you believe BR is a civvie?

I now have my doubts. Do you believe she is a baddie?

juliets wrote:How unsportsmanlike.

I hate it that I was so naive about that info. But congratulations to all you who saw through it

Bullzeye wrote:Lucky me. Twice in ten minutes. Makes no difference, the civs have lost this game with their terrible play.

Bullzeye wrote:I would suggest you vote for a baddie instead, Rabbit.

S~V~S wrote:As it should be.

S~V~S wrote:I am so looking forward to this

S~V~S wrote:So, as far as I am concerned TH is off the table. I am not supporting a lynch of TH. There are a few other people I feel OK-ish about, but a few people mentioned TH in the night, which is why I specifically mention him

Who do you suspects, Juliets?

juliets wrote:Ok sorry rabbit I misunderstood. After everyone weighing in and i agree I don't want to spread the vote I'm going with bwt.

juliets wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:Juliets what are you thinking about doing with your vote?

Well, I didn't like bwt's vote for Canuck so I'm thinking to believe the poet and vote him. Or, rabbit who I put a lot of faith in sees bullz as bad and bullz also voted for Canuck so I might vote for him. Only thing about that is rabbit thinks I am bad and so I'm not so sure about his judgement on this issue. I'm having a really hard time with this lynch. What about you Turnip Head?

S~V~S wrote:

Canucklehead wrote:I will vote today for whomever SVS votes for.

I am considering a last minute vote for you, so maybe you should get a different plan

juliets wrote:bwt maybe canuck caught on to SVS's hints since she wrote that post. I also have not caught onto them unless something I just read going over Bullz was one of the hints. If so, I'm concerned. I don't suppose there is anyone else out there who ran across one of her hints while going over his posts is there? If so speak up. Otherwise I need to read her full way through, though Bullz I think said the hints are in the sophie section and splints lynch (please correct me if this is not true Bullz).

Turnip Head wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:Zomba was getting lynched. You knew this. You can look like a dumb civvie and distance yourself from Epi at the same time. Then when you try to help Epi out later it does not look so bad.

Voting Vomp would've been the better way to protect one of my teammates. When I want to save someone, I save them properly.

That would have immediately rang false though. You have defended Vomp through most of the game. A sudden vote for him would look pretty suspicious.

Still processing the rest of your defense. I did like your analysis of all the remaining players, Bullz. Outside of the case against you, I'm looking at BWT the most. He's got the blendy, mistake-free gameplan down pat. He hasn't really brought many of his own ideas to the table; most of his contributions are echos. Although he and Dom are the only ones currently still pursuing SVS, which again, I'm not sure that would be a savvy baddie move to make at this point in time.

juliets wrote:I'm not sure why you think I'm bad over Canuck when you say in your post you think she is bad. Or DF which you say in all honesty you think he is bad. Is it my voting record or what that puts me above them?

juliets wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:One other thing I fell like JC as been getting a free pass. She has been jumping on every bandwagon, almost.

She voted for MM day 1, BF was lynched bandwagon style. She voted MM day 2, bandwagon. She jumped to vote Vomps over Zomba. She voted Epi after Bullz and it looked like Epi was getting lynched at that point.

Not to good looking. But I think we could find baddie things about everyone, me included since we have sucked as town.

I want more discussion even if you're accusing me people.

Oh I missed this. What is wrong with voting Epi again? He was bad. I did vote MM twice as I remember it and as you say because I thought he was bad. Also, I don't vote early so in most cases there are going to be votes on people before I vote them. And you are right, we could pick just about anyone and complain about their votes.

juliets wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:One other thing I fell like JC as been getting a free pass. She has been jumping on every bandwagon, almost.

She voted for MM day 1, BF was lynched bandwagon style. She voted MM day 2, bandwagon. She jumped to vote Vomps over Zomba. She voted Epi after Bullz and it looked like Epi was getting lynched at that point.

Not to good looking. But I think we could find baddie things about everyone, me included since we have sucked as town.

I want more discussion even if you're accusing me people.

Oh I missed this. What is wrong with voting Epi again? He was bad. I did vote MM twice as I remember it and as you say because I thought he was bad. Also, I don't vote early so in most cases there are going to be votes on people before I vote them. And you are right, we could pick just about anyone and complain about their votes.

Bullzeye wrote:Funny you mention low posters being bad, I think there's at least one or two quiet/blendy baddies. Blendy doesn't = low poster but I intend to look at a number of people I think meet one or both of those classifications today. Of course, since you've decided I'm bad you'll disregard everything I say but perhaps others won't.

Bullzeye wrote:

rabbit8 wrote: Sure.......You have been wrong a lot. So have we all, b ut when you look at YOU'RE voting record it paitns a bad picture.

Am I the only person with a bad voting record? Is yours so perfect?

rabbit8 wrote:Zomba was getting lynched. You knew this. You can look like a dumb civvie and distance yourself from Epi at the same time. Then when you try to help Epi out later it does not look so bad.

Voting Vomp would've been the better way to protect one of my teammates. When I want to save someone, I save them properly.

rabbit8 wrote:I know you were not the first to suspect her, but you went hard after her once she was suspect and Epi was as well. You IMO tried to help Epi out of a jam. It did not work. Following others suspicions is a great baddie tactic. Jump in and then claim I was not the only one to suspect her. Had Epi not turned up baddie I would not even really think anything of this.

In your opinion. Sums the whole thing up. I wasn't following other people's suspicions, I took the case on her and built it up. I'll accept blame for her lynch if you want but it doesn't make me bad.

rabbit8 wrote:You near always vote late, except when trying to save Epi or be consistent with your Liz vote because if you had not been consistent your vote to save Epi would have looked worse. I have other things to do in reall life too, I just don't use it as an excuse in my defense. Baddies do all the time though. Players should look at the polls, you votes are very suspect.

Rabbit, I think the last time I played with you was at least two years ago. I ALWAYS vote late if possible. Literally every game I've ever played, if the poll ends at a reasonable hour for me, I will vote late. Unless there's someone I really suspect and know that my opinion won't be changed. I haven't tried to save anybody this game. Saying I have other things to do isn't an excuse, its the truth. I'm at uni, I spend half my life going out and getting pissed. Sometimes that means I have to vote early in mafia games so I don't miss the deadline.

Bullzeye wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:
Subtle Zomba defence?

Not really subtle at all. At the time I thought it was quite a good point, and it stuck with me til Zomb was lynched. With all the arguments against her, I just thought a baddie team would've helped her defend better than she did. Especially since she wasn't actually the millionaire. Obviously I was wrong about her, but as I say that one point came up every time I thought about the case.

Sure.......You have been wrong a lot. So have we all, b ut when you look at YOU'RE voting record it paitns a bad picture.

Bullzeye wrote:So I said the other day I think at least one of the group that included MM/TH/LC/Epi was bad. Given TH's silence, I'm less inclined to vote him. So basically I guess I think one of LC or Epi is bad and with 10 minutes to vote I've not got the time to read them both properly. In the debate between the two, I feel like LC is coming off better. So I'm gonna put my completely inconsequential vote on Epig, and give both a proper read through tomorrow.

Rabbit8 wrote:This is when Zomba was lynched. Distancing Bullz?

You voted for Liz 11 when Epi was lynched.

If I wanted to distance, why not just vote Zomb. Yeah, I voted Liz a few times because I thought she was really suspicious. As did a number of others.

Zomba was getting lynched. You knew this. You can look like a dumb civvie and distance yourself from Epi at the same time. Then when you try to help Epi out later it does not look so bad.

rabbit8 wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:Rest in peace LC And welcome back DF, you got some 'splainin' to do!

Bullzeye, I have been leaning civ for Dom recently simply because he hasn't picked up on SVS's hints. I feel like that's something the baddies wouldn't be able to miss. But idk, maybe I'm reading the situation the wrong way Dom seems like he has tunnel vision which I usually associate with civvieness. I'm not really sure where to look atm though. Dom, if you're wrong about me and SVS, where else would you look then?

Linki. Oh snap rabbit comes out swinging against Bullz

Bullz picked up on hints, easily......

I'm sorry but this

S~V~S wrote:Really?

Worst baddies ever, Day 6, and the only actual civvie they killed came back, lol. In my opinion of course

@Llama~ if a team is eliminated, will the thread be told?

RIP, Splints.

So who are we gonna lynch?

Is pretty damned obvious. It's only the first one that came to mind too. The constant defences of TH, and everything between Sophie's lynch and Splints' death make it pretty clear what she's pretty much claiming to be.

It's not that obvious, IMO.

rabbit8 wrote: This post was made when things could have gone either way on LIZ EPI. Bullz votes for Liz......pretty early.

It was a pretty good case. Setting Liz up even if Epi was lynched that day.

I voted Liz because I suspected Liz. Her being civ doesn't change the fact that a lot of her behaviours were very suspicious. I wasn't the first to suspect her, and the case I made wasn't pulled out of my ass in hope of defending someone, it was based on careful reading. I chose to go after her instead because it was something I felt strongly about.

I know you were not the first to suspect her, but you went hard after her once she was suspect and Epi was as well. You IMO tried to help Epi out of a jam. It did not work. Following others suspicions is a great baddie tactic. Jump in and then claim I was not the only one to suspect her. Had Epi not turned up baddie I would not even really think anything of this.

rabbit8 wrote:Just checked and When Bullz voted for Epi it was the earliest vote in a lynch he has ever made. Looks like he has been trying to hide his vote. The only other time he voted earlier was when Liz was lynched. But that was a given after the case he made to save Epi, which failed.

How does one hide a vote when polls (and even posts for that matter) are recorded? I nearly always vote late, I like to see all the discussion of the day first. When I feel confident about someone, or if I have another commitment, I vote earlier. I don't remember why I voted Epi early but I probably had something else to be doing irl that would've made me miss the vote. This post makes a lot of assumptions and acts like they're all facts.

S~V~S wrote:Not sure how I feel about this push at Bullz. There are some good points, tbh, but I have not really gotten a bad feel from him. And I watch him pretty carefully. He is someone who deals with what he's got, or doesn't. So I am interested in hearing his thoughts about pretty much everyone else before I make a decision about that.

I may be back a bit late tonight, after work I have to stop at the store. A friend of mine was sold a necklace, and does not like it as much as the giver thought might be the case. My friend wants their money back, if possible. Let's see how that goes