The Syndicate

I'd advise people not to vote for me as I don't have access to a computer right now.

Not that anyone was clamoring to bring me back anyway, but you know.

DrumBeats wrote:David Wallace is up for vote. We need to lynch TH first, then Epi second, I have reason to believe that TH is Jo, and thus needs to be eliminated before he can control another vote.

I'd also like to see some justification for this, as I feel much more secure voting Epi tomorrow.

I moved my vote to Drumbeats.

screw it.

if we've gotta go down, let's do it together.

Plus I don't know how much computer access I'll have for the next week, so why don't I go out with a bang?

If I wasn't one of the two people tied for most votes, I would totally follow you right now TH.

At the same time, I don't see what everyone finds so crazy about espers. I'm not seeing the baddie there.

So I don't wanna fuck him over by breaking the tie myself, even though it may come to that.

All that being excluded, I'd totally be up for a DB vote. If you change your vote to him instead of bea, I'm prepared for some college-style experimentation.

DrumBeats wrote:Also, INH - you dodged the question about who your other suspects are and instead tried to talk self-defense and discredit me for having a bad voting record, which is true for almost every player in the game at this point. You almost never being a part of a mislynch honestly makes you look worse to me because it looks like you were dodging it in order to claim "My voting record is good so I'm good"

so I haven't lynched civilians, and I opposed the FS lynch because I'm trying sooo hard to act civilian?

Maybe the reason I'm acting civilian is because I am civilian.

I suspected you specifically because you're maybe the most vocal, analytical player left. But looking back, most of the decisions you've made and the horses you decided to back ended up getting a bunch of civilians killed. I guess I just don't trust you.

I gave two other suspects, you and bea, I didn't dodge the question at all.

Epignosis wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
You're seriously looking at voting records?

Do me a favor, INH. Show me one living person with a good voting record. Go.
Seeing as we haven't lynched a single baddie, that wouldn't really be easy.

Here's mine:

Day 1 - Wilgy - Civilian, Wrongly Lynched
Day 2 - leetic - ???, Was One Of 2 People Nightkilled Night 2, Along With Elohcin
Day 3 - N/A - SVS Day of Fuckery
Day 4 - Sorsha - Indie Serial Killer, Wrongly Lynched
Day 5 - Sorsha - Indie Serial Killer, Wrongly Lynched
Day 6 - timmer - Still Alive
Day 7 - Epignosis - Still Alive
Day 8 - Epignosis - Still Alive

I've only voted for one confirmed civilian, DrWilgy, who was the Day 1 lynch. If I had to choose between Elohcin and Leetic as to who was a likely Mafia NK, I'd go with Elo. Leetic was acting bonkers, and even self-voted Day 2. That screams obvious target. My money's on him being a victim of the Strangler. DB pointed out earlier that the possible reason we're still playing is because a scum member was killed somehow. I think that scum member was leetic.

To be honest, I don't think my voting record looks that bad, all things considered.

I don't wanna brag or anything tho.
Heh. My vote stays.

you and me, epig, to the end.

i feel like we've now formed some kind of elaborate suicide pact.

whoops, screwed up my gameplay defining gif

LoRab wrote:Ugh. I find myself second guessing myself on everything. Because it was asked, my suspicions of the moment are: INH, DF, and Bea as my top ones. I just can't help but think that they all have been skating through and manipulating us all. I also have my questions about espers, as he's been so quiet. DB remains a question mark, as wel, but he seems to be coming off as more misguided civ than manipulative baddie at the momentl. But at the moment I'm thinking Bea or INH.

Bea has just been a question mark. I feel like she's been sliding by. I tend to want to think that she's good, so I often am misguided by her. I'm just not sure in this case.

And INH, he's had a number of moments where I've disagreed with him, but also where he seems to have tried to steer the thread towards ideas that are based on his own assumptions and not on fact. I don't have anything solid, but my gut tells me that he's trying to mislead us. As the game goes on, I find it less and less likely that he's civ.

linkitis: If the mafia had the majority, then the game would no longer be happening--why are you trying to convince us that the situation is more dire than it necessarily is. That post kind of bumped you further up in my suspicion.

Cool beans.

I mean, you're wrong, but like most suspicions people have had of me this game, there's really no way for me to defend myself from them.

So my new strategy is fuck self-preservation. There's like a 90% chance we're gonna lose anyway. So I'm just gonna focus on my suspicions, and if you wanna lynch me, fine.

Que sera, sera.

or more accurately:

http://s83.photobucket.com/user/liz_mar ... cda975.gif

Epignosis wrote:I really don't give a shit about "NO U." I also don't give a shit about people getting mad about being caught.

You summed up my feelings exactly, Epig.

Epignosis wrote:
You're seriously looking at voting records?

Do me a favor, INH. Show me one living person with a good voting record. Go.

Seeing as we haven't lynched a single baddie, that wouldn't really be easy.

Here's mine:

Day 1 - Wilgy - Civilian, Wrongly Lynched
Day 2 - leetic - ???, Was One Of 2 People Nightkilled Night 2, Along With Elohcin
Day 3 - N/A - SVS Day of Fuckery
Day 4 - Sorsha - Indie Serial Killer, Wrongly Lynched
Day 5 - Sorsha - Indie Serial Killer, Wrongly Lynched
Day 6 - timmer - Still Alive
Day 7 - Epignosis - Still Alive
Day 8 - Epignosis - Still Alive

I've only voted for one confirmed civilian, DrWilgy, who was the Day 1 lynch. If I had to choose between Elohcin and Leetic as to who was a likely Mafia NK, I'd go with Elo. Leetic was acting bonkers, and even self-voted Day 2. That screams obvious target. My money's on him being a victim of the Strangler. DB pointed out earlier that the possible reason we're still playing is because a scum member was killed somehow. I think that scum member was leetic.

To be honest, I don't think my voting record looks that bad, all things considered.

I don't wanna brag or anything tho.

insertnamehere wrote:I'm gonna start with Epignosis.

He doesn't post anything about her until July 8th, and then he jumps on her for what are in my mind, little things about post semantics and etiquette.

Epignosis wrote:
fingersplints wrote:I think they are pretty good points, and would be interested in hearing DF's response.

fingersplints wrote:I'm liking the points against Timmer. I'm not feeling like this is his civvie game, but I'm hoping it isn't that he is just busy. I find he searches for baddies more actively then this as a civvie. Something feels off.

fingersplints wrote:Epi, I think you have a point about Matt. I didn't like Matt's day 0 interactions, but I have a hard time articulating my thoughts without it seeming a bit "no u"ish.

I'm sad rabbit died without me getting a chance to vote him. I'd consider voting for Matt, but for the time being I'm going to vote leetic for now. I haven't played any Mafia this year, and I'm scared of getting modkilled for missing votes.
I'm noticing a trend here.

Regarding that last post, you were more concerned with how you would look rather than articulating your thoughts. Why?

Epignosis wrote:I don't see how anyone gets "I'm literally never concerned with 'how I look' when posting" from "I didn't like Matt's day 0 interactions, but I have a hard time articulating my thoughts without it seeming a bit 'no u"ish.'"
Then he says that he believes DF and FS are both baddie teammates, do you still believe that DF is bad, Epignosis?

He switches his vote from DF to FS, and then comments about how dead the thread is. He's also the first one to vote for FS, kicking the whole doomed bandwagon off.

It seems to me like he pulled this suspicion out of thin air, and tried to find any little reason he could to suspect her because he knew that she could get lynched.

coincidentally, immediately after this post, Epignosis all of a sudden found me suspicious. look in my history to see my rebuttals to his arguments. i got extremely frustrated, when he tried to trap me into making me look like I NO U'd him.

insertnamehere wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:So what we have here is the driving force and initial vote behind a civilian lynch trying to shift the blame and suspicion from himself to someone who (contrary to what he claims) genuinely tried to stop it, does everyone see this? His only two points are: He was too late to stop me from lynching a civilian, and therefore it's his fault, and he thinks DF isn't bad, so, therefore they must be in cahoots, did I get it all right? This is an absolutely barmy case, alright?
Do you think I should be lynched, INH?
this is the part that really gets to me. I feel like I've been trapped in these damned-if-I-do, damned-if-I-don't scenarios where I and another person mutually suspect each other, but the other person starts screaming 'NO U,' even though they say that I'm bad after I say that I suspect them, and even though I have other legitimate reasons for suspecting them outside of me thinking everyone who suspects me must be bad. it's like any case I make can be invalidated by the person that I make the case on putting together something weak against me, waiting for me to respond, then pulling a NO U, and waiting for me to get pissed off and over-defensive, therefore making me look like a crazy person who's taking the game way too personal and forcing people to ignore my original points and my original case.

it is, in my opinion, a shitty manipulative way to play the game. and not the cool, deceptive manipulation that's why I enjoy mafia, but just intentionally pushing someone's buttons, and forcing them to stress out. this entire fucking game I've been on blast for reasons that simply seem utterly irrelevant to me, and the only time I feel like people have listened to me in this game is Day 1, when I accidentally got a civilian lynched. so this hasn't been the best game for me.

the thing is, Epignosis knew all of this. That's why he picked me as the ideal patsy. He knew that he could just lob a few softballs at me, which would then infuriate me, and make my original points moot. He also knew that people like timmer and Enrique have been wanting my blood ever since the whole goddamn Matt clusterfuck, (which thank you so fucking much for 3J, I hope you got the goddamn reaction you were hoping for) and my aggressive irreverence makes me an easy target.

the whole thing just reeks of cynical opportunism and attempted gaslighting to me. it feels calculated, disingenuine, and just really fucking scummy.

So, I'm voting for Epignosis. I know that no one will listen to me, because obviously this whole entire thing is just a shallow scummy no u on my part, but this is how I genuinely feel. vote for me if you find it scummy.

Epig's Response:

Epignosis wrote:I'm not interested in your angst-ridden series of interrogatives INH. I didn't suspect you because of Matt or 3J or anything with timmer. That was a fresh avenue of thought coming off the fingersplints lynch.

I'm not bad. My job is to work out who is, and I don't care if I have fourteen hundred failures, I'll press on, even if you think I should step back.

He said this almost 24 hours after my post. I guess he tried the ol' go to the Winchester and wait for this all to blow over strategy for as long as he could.

DrumBeats wrote:Assuming there is a hidden fifth mafia role, likely the silencer, then one mafia has to be dead, or else we would have lost by now. My money's still on SVS. Maybe 3J as well - who is either Moze, mafia, or maybe an independent Karen?

I want everybody's thoughts on who is mafia. Give your top two most likely people to flip scum in your eyes.

I'm at a point where I have the sneaking suspicion that we've already lost, and the mafia outnumber the civilians. At this point the only person I kinda trust is bea, and the fact that everyone trusts her makes me not want to trust her, because, how is she still alive? I think Epig is scum, and I doubt very much that I'm going to budge on this count.

I am currently leaning towards INH and espers being scum.

Cool beans. Still haven't seen a case against me that I comprehend, much less empathize with, but k. Right now in this game, I can't really defend myself, and none of my attacks are listened to, so I'm essentially pointless. Hence my new strategy of pointed apathy.

INH, who are your next two suspicions besides Epi?

Nothing I feel anywhere as concrete about, but bea is getting kind of inexplicable to me, and to be frank, you. I've always been kind of wary of your domineering the thread, so I looked at the voting records.

Here's your history:

Day 1 - Quin - Civilian, Wrongly Lynched
Day 2 - BWT - Civilian, Wrongly Lynched
Day 3 - N/A - SVS's day of wackiness
Day 4 - Matt - Civilian, Wrongly Lynched
Day 5 - Sorsha - Indie, Wrongly Lynched
Day 6 - Scotty - Not Scum, Nightkilled
Day 7 - Spacedaisy - Indie, Wrongly Lynched

That's not very good.

Also INH, can I see your case on Epi?

answered in it's own post

i guess i'll just sit over here in the corner, beating my Epignosis drum.

i know it's futile at this point, but it makes me feel important, damn it!

Scotty wrote:
LoRab wrote:I hope Dom is ok!!

And that he didn't forget about us--or that Daisy isn't a role in which if she gets the most votes, the host is actually lynched, but we never find out because the host can't write the post (having been lynched) and the game never ends.
God who would approve that role? Satan?

as someone who put that role in a couple of games, let me tell you, the players usually don't respond well to it.

Epignosis wrote:
timmer wrote:
Enrique wrote:
Scotty wrote:
Enrique wrote:
Scotty wrote:I would also suspect that Spacedaisy was forced to vote Drumbeats on top of bea voting Sorsha and espers voting serge. In case anyone is counting.

In reading back through the votes from yesterday, here's some notes:
Drumbeats looks slightly better.
espers looks slightly worse.
Turnip Head looks worse.
Epi looks slightly better.
Enrique looks slightly worse.
Timmer looks slightly better.

I'm not sure how those compare with the GTH reads from last night.

Everyone else is pretty much in limbo. I have a few people I trust more than others that I don't feel like painting at this time.

I would acknowledge that I wouldn't mind my own office, but im not actively campaigning.
Didn't Drumbeats vote the exact same way as TH... three times last night?
Yes? Wouldnt you like to respond to my criticisms of your vote?
Okay. I think INH is bad.
Hallelu!

timmer wrote:I'm not voting INH today I've decided that my gut is not based on enough at this stage.
That's a major turnaround, timmer. Can you explain what brought it about?

Nice complete and utter dodge of everything I said, okay?

LoRab wrote:@INH: In light of Splints' flipping civ and there being a pile up of votes on her (which, to me, says bandwagon--which means not all baddies, but certainly some). Does that change your view of DF?

If anything, it just reinforces my view of him as civ, okay?

DrumBeats wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
DrumBeats wrote:Where do both of you stand on espers?
I stand on an ivory platform of ambivalence.

Where do you stand on Epignosis?
I was previously more unsure of him, but I'm actually leaning civ now.

DrumBeats wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:The way I see it, this guy is either a civ or the most sociopathic mafioso that ever lived. No baddie argues their innocence like this.
Where do you stand on Epignosis?
I have a specific civilian role in mind for him. I think he's genuinely trying to figure you out.
OHHH, I think I might actually know what you're thinking of there. That's interesting. Not sure if we're thinking the same one, but I'm thinking Epi makes a whole lot more sense with one civ role.

Maybe I'm just biased, stupid, or some combination of the two, but I have no idea what you're talking about, okay?

Could you be more specific?

insertnamehere wrote:
DrumBeats wrote:Where do both of you stand on espers?
I stand on an ivory platform of ambivalence, okay?

Where do you stand on Epignosis?

Fixed?

DrumBeats wrote:Where do both of you stand on espers?

I stand on an ivory platform of ambivalence.

Where do you stand on Epignosis?

Turnip Head wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:The way I see it, this guy is either a civ or the most sociopathic mafioso that ever lived. No baddie argues their innocence like this.
Where do you stand on Epignosis?
I have a specific civilian role in mind for him. I think he's genuinely trying to figure you out.

How much will you accept under the mantle of "trying to figure someone out?"

Turnip Head wrote:The way I see it, this guy is either a civ or the most sociopathic mafioso that ever lived. No baddie argues their innocence like this.

Where do you stand on Epignosis?

I'm sorry if my posts were aggressive or personal, I didn't intend them to be, okay?

This has been a crappy, stressful last couple of weeks for not just me, but everyone, okay?

if someone who is not me could quote my posts without the "okays" in them, I would really appreciate it, okay?

I started playing mafia for 3 reasons, okay?

1. Because I enjoyed the analysis, fact-searching, bluffery that made up the game, okay?

2. Because of the cool, crazy, and inventive games, okay?

3. A community that, for being built around a game about lying, deceit, and mistrust, is surprisingly welcoming and inclusive, okay?

I don't know if I'm gonna keep playing if it's just now a thing where civilians act like jerks to people in order to "study their reactions," and the mafia acts like jerks to people in order to manipulate them into getting stressed out, annoyed, and being taken less seriously in the thread, okay?

Maybe the game's just evolved into it's next stage?

Or maybe it's devolved?

Epignosis wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:So what we have here is the driving force and initial vote behind a civilian lynch trying to shift the blame and suspicion from himself to someone who (contrary to what he claims) genuinely tried to stop it, does everyone see this? His only two points are: He was too late to stop me from lynching a civilian, and therefore it's his fault, and he thinks DF isn't bad, so, therefore they must be in cahoots, did I get it all right? This is an absolutely barmy case, alright?
Do you think I should be lynched, INH?

this is the part that really gets to me, okay? I feel like I've been trapped in these damned-if-I-do, damned-if-I-don't scenarios where I and another person mutually suspect each other, but the other person starts screaming 'NO U,' even though they say that I'm bad after I say that I suspect them, and even though I have other legitimate reasons for suspecting them outside of me thinking everyone who suspects me must be bad, okay? it's like any case I make can be invalidated by the person that I make the case on putting together something weak against me, waiting for me to respond, then pulling a NO U, and waiting for me to get pissed off and over-defensive, therefore making me look like a crazy person who's taking the game way too personal and forcing people to ignore my original points and my original case, okay?

it is, in my opinion, a shitty manipulative way to play the game, okay? and not the cool, deceptive manipulation that's why I enjoy mafia, but just intentionally pushing someone's buttons, and forcing them to stress out, okay? this entire fucking game I've been on blast for reasons that simply seem utterly irrelevant to me, and the only time I feel like people have listened to me in this game is Day 1, when I accidentally got a civilian lynched, okay? so this hasn't been the best game for me, okay?

the thing is, Epignosis knew all of this, okay? That's why he picked me as the ideal patsy, okay? He knew that he could just lob a few softballs at me, which would then infuriate me, and make my original points moot, okay? He also knew that people like timmer and Enrique have been wanting my blood ever since the whole goddamn Matt clusterfuck, (which thank you so fucking much for 3J, I hope you got the goddamn reaction you were hoping for) and my aggressive irreverence makes me an easy target, okay?

the whole thing just reeks of cynical opportunism and attempted gaslighting to me, okay? it feels calculated, disingenuine, and just really fucking scummy, okay?

So, I'm voting for Epignosis, okay? I know that no one will listen to me, because obviously this whole entire thing is just a shallow scummy no u on my part, but this is how I genuinely feel, okay? vote for me if you find it scummy, okay?

can everyone guess how much i hate this stupid fucking curse?

Epignosis wrote:What INH said about DFaraday:

Scotty (Good)
Enrique (Good)
DrumBeats (Good)
DFaraday (Good) - self

Turnip Head (Bad)

INH (I dunno)
No opinion then, but when the pressure came against DFaraday, INH suddenly had one.

You're once again presuming that I gave a damn about the GTH reads, okie-doke?

So what we have here is the driving force and initial vote behind a civilian lynch trying to shift the blame and suspicion from himself to someone who (contrary to what he claims) genuinely tried to stop it, does everyone see this? His only two points are: He was too late to stop me from lynching a civilian, and therefore it's his fault, and he thinks DF isn't bad, so, therefore they must be in cahoots, did I get it all right? This is an absolutely barmy case, alright?

Epignosis wrote:INH- comma splicing his way through the question curse.

I have to get through it somehow, y'know?

You were feebly trying to take the moral high ground when fingersplints got lynched. Yet you say you were "neutral" on her, and that you didn't know what the outcome would be?

I was neutral on FS, but I thought that the bandwagon on her was sudden, and without good cause, and therefore I found it suspicious, do you understand? I allowed the chance that I was wrong completely, in the case that FS was bad, and her accusers were genuine, but every weak post made by her accusers felt more and more fake to me, ya dig?

Shaw.

Did you forget the "P?"

insertnamehere wrote:wow, a seemingly random lynch with more than half of the players voting for one person, most of which saying in their posts "I just don't see a better option, so I guess out of the people who have votes, I'll go with FS," DIDN'T produce a dead baddie.

Color me shocked and awed.
Even though five people called her bad, you call her lynch seemingly random. I get you don't care about "gun to head," and neither do I, but the fact remains that five people called her bad, so it wasn't a random lynch.

You correctly identified that I ignored the GTH reads completely, but now you suspect me for not taking them into account? Also, did the idea that I found the reasons behind people's suspicion about her random and weak ever pop into your head? Oh wait, I forgot that you're in full tunnel-vision, I accept no responsibility for anything mode, right?

I believe you knew she was good, and that you wanted her lynched. You put nothing more than a token effort to stop her lynch, and that consisted of telling spacedaisy she had seven minutes to change her vote- as though that would have done anything. You didn't make an effort to get anybody else lynched instead. You didn't try to convince anyone to not vote fingersplints. So your rant is hollow, and I'm looking right through it.

I made a case on timmer that I thought made sense, but nobody responded to it, so that's one blatantly wrong point, you hear? I just can barely believe you're attempting to shift the blame off of yourself and onto me for being too "late" with my objections, okay? I knew Daisy was online because I just finished playing the Sim with her, so I thought maybe she'd check the thread and change her vote, right?

Epignosis, what happened? You used to be so much better at the Blame Game than this, y'know?

Epignosis wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:Then he says that he believes DF and FS are both baddie teammates, do you still believe that DF is bad, Epignosis?
Yep.

Regarding fingersplints:

INH (I dunno, feel kinda good)

DrumBeats (Bad)
Enrique (Bad)
DFaraday (Bad)
Scotty (Bad)
Turnip Head (Bad)
That's five people who called fingersplints bad. Did you voice any complaint then?

No, because I was neutral on FS's alignment, and wasn't really leaning one way or the other, wasn't it obvious? Plus those were GTH reads, which I also consider dumb and pointless, so I try not to let them influence my analysis, m'kay?

insertnamehere wrote:I like how you didn't exclude my "dunno" for myself
Nope.

What's your point here? I don't think GTH reads mean jack squat, so what?

What about shortly after?

insertnamehere wrote:I don't like how TH and DB are both falling back to their respective pet cases with DF and Scotty, both of whom I actually trust more than I do TH and DB.
Nope.

Are you Chuck Testa? No? Then could you not say 'Nope' to random posts without providing any context as to what you mean?

You didn't raise an objection to the fingersplints lynch until it was imminent.

Because I wasn't sure what the outcome would be, and I didn't have any opinion on fingersplints, you feel me? I'm sorry that my objection to a mislynch was too late for your tastes, but seeing as you started the mislynch, maybe you should hesitate before you throw any more stones inside your glass house, y'know?

insertnamehere wrote:aaaand now there's a weak-ass splints bandwagon. great.
Five people called fingersplints bad, and you didn't criticize or scrutinize that fact until after the votes are cast.

That was in GTH reads, which I don't pay attention to, okay? Plus I objected to the FS lynch and thought it was too weak, I'm sorry that you felt those objections were too late to stop you from lynching a civilian, but shouldn't you have known better?

Over an hour before that, you defended DF using intimidation:

not intimidation, just me saying that I thought a certain lynch train was suspicious, you dig?

insertnamehere wrote:If TH + Lorab get DF lynched, and he flips civ, they're gonna be my top two suspects for tomorrow.

Just putting that out there.
You didn't lift a finger in her defense until it was too late.

Do you want me to copy & paste what I said earlier? I'm sorry that you felt those objections were too late to stop you from lynching a civilian, but shouldn't you have known better?

Your "effort" is almost comical:

I'm sorry that you felt those objections were too late to stop you from lynching a civilian, but shouldn't you have known better? Your effort to lynch a baddie could also be considered comical, right?

insertnamehere wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:I'm not silenced, many apologies. I'm failing at multitasking. I voted and went to post, but at the same time I was trying to rush into the Syndicate Sim, which I am exceedingly late to, and I had some computer glitch issues at the same time which shut all my windows, so I forgot to post. Frankly I have no good reason for voting Splints. I have no good reason for anything, nor any great desire for anything. I simply tossed my vote out in an effort to not miss the vote.
we got seven minutes left in case you want to change it.
No, you were really okay with fingersplints getting lynched.

Do you have any actual basis for this? Because I don't see it, maybe you forgot to include it? Maybe instead of trying to blame people who didn't vote for FS for her lynch, maybe you should try and defend yourself?

You were not okay with DFaraday getting lynched.

No, I was not, and I am not, becuase I don't think he's scum, you get it?

Next up is Scotty, you get me?

Scotty is someone who I've gotten a good read on this entire game, so his vote here has me going whaaaaa?

He himself admits that he didn't explain his FS vote very well, and he explains it in his most recent post, can you dig it?

Scotty wrote:So I'll go ahead and explain my splints vote since I did a piss-poor job of explaining it.

TH I am not so sure I was reading DFaraday as bad. I can't quite place it but his responses have not been as...measured? I guess? As when I called him out as bad in Arkham.
Splints jumped right on your case of DF and started citing things he said via bwt lynch. It felt like she was using him as a scapegoat. And since I didn't (and still don't really) suspect DF as much as others, I figured splints was the perp.

His couple of posts about FS before his vote do in fact jive with this explanation, and it is one that seems sound to me, as someone who believes DF to be un-worthy of lynch, but I don't see why he couldn't of just explained this earlier?

I'm gonna do an analysis of everyone who voted FS, and their reasons for doing so, okay? This damned curse may make it a bit harder, but I have to figure that whoever cursed me wanted to avoid scrutiny of those people, right?

I'm gonna start with Epignosis, okay?

He doesn't post anything about her until July 8th, and then he jumps on her for what are in my mind, little things about post semantics and etiquette, you see?

Epignosis wrote:
fingersplints wrote:I think they are pretty good points, and would be interested in hearing DF's response.

fingersplints wrote:I'm liking the points against Timmer. I'm not feeling like this is his civvie game, but I'm hoping it isn't that he is just busy. I find he searches for baddies more actively then this as a civvie. Something feels off.

fingersplints wrote:Epi, I think you have a point about Matt. I didn't like Matt's day 0 interactions, but I have a hard time articulating my thoughts without it seeming a bit "no u"ish.

I'm sad rabbit died without me getting a chance to vote him. I'd consider voting for Matt, but for the time being I'm going to vote leetic for now. I haven't played any Mafia this year, and I'm scared of getting modkilled for missing votes.
I'm noticing a trend here.

Regarding that last post, you were more concerned with how you would look rather than articulating your thoughts. Why?

Epignosis wrote:I don't see how anyone gets "I'm literally never concerned with 'how I look' when posting" from "I didn't like Matt's day 0 interactions, but I have a hard time articulating my thoughts without it seeming a bit 'no u"ish.'"

Then he says that he believes DF and FS are both baddie teammates, do you still believe that DF is bad, Epignosis?

He switches his vote from DF to FS, and then comments about how dead the thread is, am I getting this right? He's also the first one to vote for FS, kicking the whole doomed bandwagon off, capiche?

It seems to me like he pulled this suspicion out of thin air, and tried to find any little reason he could to suspect her because he knew that she could get lynched, you follow me?

Turnip Head wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:Timmer, I've come around on, and began to view as genuine, although I'd like to see some more non-INH opinions.

insertnamehere wrote:Because I'm a NO U'ing scumlord, I've decided to vote for timmer.
Explain yo self.

I posted this before I went back and ISO'd both of 'em, do you understand? When I read both of their post histories, I realized that my earlier conjecture was wrong, okay?

Can anyone spot anything weird with my posts? Am I gonna have to do this for the entire day?

If I'm still, y'know, alive tomorrow, expect me to post an analysis on everyone who voted FS.

Turnip Head wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
You're bad.

no u

is it too late to declare bankruptcy?

wow, a seemingly random lynch with more than half of the players voting for one person, most of which saying in their posts "I just don't see a better option, so I guess out of the people who have votes, I'll go with FS," DIDN'T produce a dead baddie.

Color me shocked and awed.

LoRab wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
LoRab wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:If TH + Lorab get DF lynched, and he flips civ, they're gonna be my top two suspects for tomorrow.

Just putting that out there.
I voted the player I suspected most. I stand behind my vote. I don't have a baddie vibe from Splints, so I didn't vote there, although she seems to have the clear majority.

Why would disagreeingon suspicion make someone your top suspect?

If somebody helps to lynch a civilian for what seems to me like weak reasoning, I see that as cause to suspect them.
So if Splints flips civ, will you suspect everyone who voted for her?

not necessarily everyone, but I'll re-read the posts of the votes and see who decided to jump on a bandwagon, and who was seemingly genuine.

LoRab wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:If TH + Lorab get DF lynched, and he flips civ, they're gonna be my top two suspects for tomorrow.

Just putting that out there.
I voted the player I suspected most. I stand behind my vote. I don't have a baddie vibe from Splints, so I didn't vote there, although she seems to have the clear majority.

Why would disagreeingon suspicion make someone your top suspect?

If somebody helps to lynch a civilian for what seems to me like weak reasoning, I see that as cause to suspect them.

Spacedaisy wrote:I'm not silenced, many apologies. I'm failing at multitasking. I voted and went to post, but at the same time I was trying to rush into the Syndicate Sim, which I am exceedingly late to, and I had some computer glitch issues at the same time which shut all my windows, so I forgot to post. Frankly I have no good reason for voting Splints. I have no good reason for anything, nor any great desire for anything. I simply tossed my vote out in an effort to not miss the vote.

we got seven minutes left in case you want to change it.

insertnamehere wrote:
timmer wrote:I voted for splints. At this late stage I focused on those with votes, and I don't see a case on df or Scotty, and splints was supportive of INH who is still smelling bad to me, so there it is.
You're now voting for people because they agree with me?

There's tunnel-vision, and then there's how you're treating me.

timmer wrote:I voted for splints. At this late stage I focused on those with votes, and I don't see a case on df or Scotty, and splints was supportive of INH who is still smelling bad to me, so there it is.

You're now voting for people because they agree with me?

aaaand now there's a weak-ass splints bandwagon. great.

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