The Syndicate

MovingPictures07 wrote:This was one of my worst games ever, LOL. I will never forgive Daisy for tricking me.

Still waiting for the video of you eating a hat.

It can be a hat made out of cake, or bread, or whatever. I'm not a monster.

me right now

A tie, I guess.

We still don't know what would happen, right?

Voted MP.

In Parks and Rec, I thought a shifty-acting player who was saved on multiple occasions had to be bad. I was wrong, and got a large amount of egg on my face. I'm not 100% sure that Elo isn't a civ that is just being set up. MP and Daisy's quick votes in her direction make me a little nervous.

So, I went with the person I had the strongest negative gut read of.

i'm gonna go watch the Survivor finale.

Be back later with a summation of everything, and an analysis of how MP responded to me post-D3.

First you insinuated that I wanted DF gone because he suspected me... and he never named me by name.

Wrong.

I insinuated that you wanted DF gone because he thought Elo was saved D1, which implicated you. Just him bandying about the idea that it was a save, and basing some suspicions on it was enough for you to both completely discredit and lynch the dude.

Also, I never said that's all DF posts said; I said that the ONE ASSUMPTION that dictated all of his suspicions was that "there was a d1 save". This is true. If you can find literally any suspect that DF had that wasn't dictated by this one flimsy assumption, INH, by all means.

Let's flex our high-school English muscles and analyze the diction of this quote.

ONE ASSUMPTION

dictated all of his suspicions

literally

flimsy assumption

This is the most discrediting "I DON'T AGREE WITH THIS PERSON" language imaginable.

But yeah, let's take MP's sneering little wager, and climb into the ISO time machine to once again analyze DF's posts, because if I don't, MP just won't respond to me.

Nice trick, this. Switching the roles, making your accuser be the one on the defensive while you ignore his points and force him to comb through ISOs.

I'll remember this next time I'm bad, it'll come in handy.

OTHER SUSPICIONS DFARADAY HAD:
To compare, here's everything DF said about D1 being a save:

Now here's how MP painted DFaraday to the thread. I've bolded some descriptive language MP uses for emphasis.
MP uses the same loaded language over and over when referring to DFaraday and yours truly. He calls thinking D1 was a save a "flimsy and dubious assumption" upon which "literally DF's entire game" was based upon. Plus, "DF and INH aren't hunting," and "lack town spark."

I'm surprised he didn't just start calling DF "Lyin' Faraday."

Let's break it down.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:One could easily say that you're doing the same exact thing, dude, by saying Elo definitively wasn't saved by either CFD's.

It's less of a leap for me that they were saved than it is for me to assume that they weren't, and it's all some wacky coincidence.

Furthermore, DF did consider other factors, and misrepresenting him as some one-issue pony is doing him a disservice.

He made 24 posts in this thread and the Hatch thread. Only 1/8th of them said anything about Day 1 being a save.

You're honestly gonna tell me that I'M misrepresenting YOU?

Whatever dude.

....I NEVER SAID EITHER OF THESE THINGS.

INH, seriously, if you are town and you want us to have a constructive conversation, politely I'm going to have to tell you to go back and reading my freaking posts. I'm not going to respond to you if you keep throwing out blatant misrepresentations literally every time you talk about me, because that's all you've done.

You misrepresent and suspect anyone who thinks Elo was saved on Day 1 or 3 by painting them as small minded people who aren't considering the bigger picture. You accuse anyone who suspects you of blatant misrepresentation, forcing them to waste an hour of their life combing through your post history highlighting examples in order to force you to actually answer the points they made against you.

WALL OF QUOTES:

First you insinuated that I wanted DF gone because he suspected me... and he never named me by name.

Furthermore, in here, I've never said that Elo and G-Man were never saved. I just thought the notion was incredibly dubious, because I initiated the CFD, and I know I'm town, Daisy joined me and I'm pretty sure she isn't town, and generally it's much more common that mafia members will try to pile on various town wagons on d1 precisely for this reason. All I've said all game is that there's no reason to believe there was a save any more than there's reason to believe that there wasn't a save and everyone who had votes on d1 was town. I've never debunked or "definitively" said there wasn't.

Also, I never said that's all DF posts said; I said that the ONE ASSUMPTION that dictated all of his suspicions was that "there was a d1 save". This is true. If you can find literally any suspect that DF had that wasn't dictated by this one flimsy assumption, INH, by all means.

I'm sorry MP, but I'm not you. I don't know that when you do suspicious looking things, you mean well because you're a civilian. I just see a person doing suspicious things.

Lemme isolate this one quote from the above:

All I've said all game is that there's no reason to believe there was a save any more than there's reason to believe that there wasn't a save and everyone who had votes on d1 was town.

I disagree with this. With this logic, literally all vote histories are completely inadmissable. You're trying to say that lynching a civilian isn't an inherently suspicious act, and rather the suspicion lies with those who find others for it. That's some weird, flawed, desperate justification-y logic right there.

You expect others to seriously not find people suspicious for lynching a civilian?

Also, you think SD is scum? Where did this come from?

MovingPictures07 wrote:If Daisy is bad, I will record video of myself eating a hat. This is her town game.

Alas, I think the earlier post is a typo, and we shall see no hat-eating videos.

But yeah, I think you and Daisy both are as suspicious as that Henry Gale guy for lynching those two civilians. Sorry, three civilians in Daisy's case.

It's like when Jill Stein says "we need to look into whether vaccines cause autism" and responds to criticism with "what? I never said I think vaccines cause autism, I was just saying we can't definitively rule it out!"

You saying "we can't judge the people who joined either CFD" is pretty much the same as saying "the CFD's weren't save attempts" in my book, no matter how hard you spin it.

Coming up: a special section about how MP's case on DF as well as everything else he's said about him is misrepresenting compost.

MovingPictures07 wrote:INH, I never got a response to this post, and I'd like one because I'm trying to determine whether you're a desperate baddie making a play on mislynching me tomorrow or whether you genuinely believe I'm bad.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Quin wrote:My rainbow list currently has no town reads.

Why?

why not?

some of us are better at seeing town reads than others.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:Sorsha's the one I have the best view of, but not by much

What is that view? Why is she your top read?

it's like I went through some kind of...procedure of removal...in my mind, and Sorsha was the one who rubbed me wrong the least. She's the least objectionable, not the most commendable. Hence the yellow hue.

I don't understand your first response. What does that mean?

But why? What about Sorsha rubs you wrong the least? What has she done that's least objectionable?

My first response was based on something you said in GY!BE mafia. It was something akin to "I find it easier to townread people than to scumread them." My mind works the opposite way. I'm verrry hesitant to award a town read to someone, especially in a game where we haven't managed to lynch a civilian yet, and it's LYLO time.

My sole townread in this game was DFaraday. And you lynched him for reasons I disagree with.

When I say that I find Sorsha the least objectionable, it's not that I think aspects of her game play indicate her civvieness, it's that I think everyone else has more scummy aspects.

If you asked me what made Sorsha civ, I'd shrug in your face. But if you asked me what makes every single other player, excluding myself and her, suspicious, I'd be able to list a couple things.

She could still easily do something suspicious, and I'd immediately change my view of her.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:The problem with INH's strategy, if he is mafia, is that he could have selected a different player to tunnel out of the end of d3 and convinced someone more easily to vote for them, Elo, Sorsha, and Scotty I think would have little resistance.

Since we're going into LYLO tomorrow, the tides turning on me in the moment appeared blatantly sinister, but if that is the case, it seems to be a completely reactive and perhaps poor mafia strategy.

I also am not sure INH would argue with me with such conviction and with such blatant misrepresentations if he were mafia. It seems over the top.

Following this train of thought, if INH is mafia, Quin being his teammate makes little sense. There were moments, both d1 and d3, when INH legitimately could have gotten lynched, and I'm not sure Quin is THAT ballsy to risk going after his teammate relentlessly all game. I think I was suffering tinfoil and recency bias a bit too much when I threw that out there.

Funny what a little backing away emotionally and accompanied sleep will do for a person.

Right now, MP, you're my biggest lynch candidate.

If you think me and Quin are both civ, and you yourself are civ, you need to give me a better alternative here.

GTH, who do you think is the baddie team?

MovingPictures07 wrote:Furthermore, DF never was questioning the intentions of the CFD. He used declarative language all game to say that he thought either G-Man or Elo was saved by the CFD, never considered another perspective that they were NOT, and used that to dictate his suspicions all game.

Those are all facts. If you find elsewhere in his ISO that DF was ever open-minded on any of those fronts, and that the assumption of "d1 was a save" is ever missing from any of his suspicions, INH, by all means.

Otherwise, you're misrepresenting.

One could easily say that you're doing the same exact thing, dude, by saying Elo definitively wasn't saved by either CFD's.

It's less of a leap for me that they were saved than it is for me to assume that they weren't, and it's all some wacky coincidence.

Furthermore, DF did consider other factors, and misrepresenting him as some one-issue pony is doing him a disservice.

Here's every post of DF's that talks about Day 1 being a save.
He made 24 posts in this thread and the Hatch thread. Only 1/8th of them said anything about Day 1 being a save.

You're honestly gonna tell me that I'M misrepresenting YOU?

Whatever dude.

MovingPictures07 wrote:We should have lynched INH today.

funny thing about that.

I think we should have lynched you today.

Hindsight sure is 20/20, eh?

I gotta go for a run, be back in 20. I expect the grand MP inquisition to continue.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

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insertnamehere wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:All of this despite me and Epi telling him that literally all of his suspicions/thoughts are based on one flimsy assumption: that someone was being saved on Day 1. I think that's ridiculously dubious.

MP's case against DF was mostly based on DF thinking that the D1 Soneji thing was a save-job.

Seems more like MP just wanted to get rid of someone who found him suspicious. Or he was so shocked that someone would find him suspicious for his D1 CFD mislynch that he decided to target him for yet another CFD mislynch.

It's like raaaaain on your wedding day...

MovingPictures07 wrote:I don't get the impression at all that DF cares about solving the game at all. I'd like to lynch him today.

Translation: DF finds me suspicious; get him!

Full disclosure, whenever I read the phrase "solving this game," I roll my eyes.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:@ MP - Up until your post on him setting up easy lynches, I hadn't really thought anything of him. In reading the Hatch thread I thought briefly that he seemed more engaged that he normally comes across to me, but I don't think that is necessarily a baddie tell or anything, he is usually disengaged either way I believe. But your post about setting up lynches was a good point. He basically has a lynch lined up no matter what result Elo might flip, which would be a nice place for a baddie to be sitting. It is something to consider.

INH is doing the exact same thing in that post I quoted. I find it equally suspect.

Both DF and INH seem so uninterested in actually hunting for mafia. They're just drawing connections based on incredibly dubious assumptions.

Hey, lookie here:

MP seems so uninterested in actually hunting for mafia. He's just drawing connections based on incredibly dubious assumptions.

See? I can do it too.

Also, once again, "incredibly dubious assumptions" = questioning the intent of a D1 CFD mislynch. That sounds reasonably grounded in logic and fact to me, but then again, I didn't cause a D1 CFD mislynch. I guess MP's perspective is different.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Their games are the epitome of lacking any town spark whatsoever. They don't indicate any consideration of hunting.

Translation: I don't like DF and INH's games and hunting efforts because they implicate me.

Dude, it's a good thing I won the lottery. Otherwise, I'd be broke because of all this discrediting MP is doing to me.

INH, you don't seem all that interested in understanding me. Instead you just come in here stating all these mafia-aligned interpretations of my behavior that you suddenly are accusing me of. Apparently it took you 3 whole Day periods to find me suspicious. Why is that?

MP, you sure seem to know what my interests are, don't you? And you just ignore my wall posts and ask me leading questions to accomplish, what exactly?

I was willing to let the D1 shenanigans not influence me too negatively against you. Call it the benefit of the doubt. But then you do the same thing against my one and only townread I've had this entire game, on a case that makes a house of cards look like it's made out of steel.

So now I'm annoyed.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Quin wrote:My rainbow list currently has no town reads.

Why?

why not?

some of us are better at seeing town reads than others.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:Sorsha's the one I have the best view of, but not by much

What is that view? Why is she your top read?

it's like I went through some kind of...procedure of removal...in my mind, and Sorsha was the one who rubbed me wrong the least. She's the least objectionable, not the most commendable. Hence the yellow hue.

Epignosis wrote:I don't see where DF suspected MP.

DFaraday wrote:That was absolute bollocks. Nobody talks about Soneji all day, then with ten minutes to go the votes pile on? That's bloody ludicrous!

If anyone asked me, I'd think the baddies are made up of two Soneji voters and either Eloh, Sorsha or G-Man. This just screams save.

DFaraday wrote:The bigger issue for me is the Day 1 lynch, which still looks like a blatant save attempt. Since G-Man wasn't being saved, the most logical option is Elo. And of course Rico suspected Elo shortly before his demise.

This is what MP is talking about with his "dubious assumptions."

He didn't want anyone questioning the D1 lynch, because guess who was behind it?

MP...MP was behind it...in case you didn't know...

By going after Elo because he thought the D1 lynch was fishy, he's essentially saying that MP's D1 case against Soneji was fishy.

It just feels so discredit-y and icky to me.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Quin wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Epi and Elo, would you be willing to vote INH?

mp, can you please stop disappearing from the thread, reappearing at the last possible second, and changing the vote against a civilian player?

please and thank you.

DFaraday thinks we're both town. Are we both town? Should we come together as one and smite the villainous scum that are basically everybody else in this thread?

What is the point of this post?

what's the point of, like, existence?

Quin wrote:If I weren't the colour of recently squeezed cyst contents then I'd find myself in agreement with this list. I'll do my own later.

yo Quin, you up for lynching MP D4?

MovingPictures07 wrote:All of this despite me and Epi telling him that literally all of his suspicions/thoughts are based on one flimsy assumption: that someone was being saved on Day 1. I think that's ridiculously dubious.

MP's case against DF was mostly based on DF thinking that the D1 Soneji thing was a save-job.

Seems more like MP just wanted to get rid of someone who found him suspicious. Or he was so shocked that someone would find him suspicious for his D1 CFD mislynch that he decided to target him for yet another CFD mislynch.

It's like raaaaain on your wedding day...

MovingPictures07 wrote:I don't get the impression at all that DF cares about solving the game at all. I'd like to lynch him today.

Translation: DF finds me suspicious; get him!

Full disclosure, whenever I read the phrase "solving this game," I roll my eyes.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:@ MP - Up until your post on him setting up easy lynches, I hadn't really thought anything of him. In reading the Hatch thread I thought briefly that he seemed more engaged that he normally comes across to me, but I don't think that is necessarily a baddie tell or anything, he is usually disengaged either way I believe. But your post about setting up lynches was a good point. He basically has a lynch lined up no matter what result Elo might flip, which would be a nice place for a baddie to be sitting. It is something to consider.

INH is doing the exact same thing in that post I quoted. I find it equally suspect.

Both DF and INH seem so uninterested in actually hunting for mafia. They're just drawing connections based on incredibly dubious assumptions.

Hey, lookie here:

MP seems so uninterested in actually hunting for mafia. He's just drawing connections based on incredibly dubious assumptions.

See? I can do it too.

Also, once again, "incredibly dubious assumptions" = questioning the intent of a D1 CFD mislynch. That sounds reasonably grounded in logic and fact to me, but then again, I didn't cause a D1 CFD mislynch. I guess MP's perspective is different.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Their games are the epitome of lacking any town spark whatsoever. They don't indicate any consideration of hunting.

Translation: I don't like DF and INH's games and hunting efforts because they implicate me.

Dude, it's a good thing I won the lottery. Otherwise, I'd be broke because of all this discrediting MP is doing to me.

Golden wrote:

Quin wrote:

Golden wrote:I didn't mind The Whole Truth - it is after all the episode with the famous "Got Any Milk" line from Henry.

I liked the 'Sun finds out she is pregnant' plot and the Sun/Kate dynamic. And Henry setting Sayid off to find the balloon.

Now, on the other hand, if you want to talk about "Dave"...

(the other three you named live in that category. Fire + Water is possibly Lost's second worst episode (for me, Stranger in a Strange Land will always be the worst).

You're forgetting Exposé, buddy.

I like Exposé. For starters, it has Lando Calrissian in it. For seconds, it actually redeemed Nikki and Paulo's story ever so slightly (for me). Thirdly, it has one of the most twisted endings of any Lost episode (as opposed to twisty, which every episode's end was). Razzle Dazzle!

It was a nasty postmodern Twilight Zone riff that I honestly find absolutely hilarious. It's one of the few episodes that justified the need for flashbacks in Seasons 2/3, and one of the only good "standalone" episodes.

Quin wrote:

Golden wrote:I didn't mind The Whole Truth - it is after all the episode with the famous "Got Any Milk" line from Henry.

I liked the 'Sun finds out she is pregnant' plot and the Sun/Kate dynamic. And Henry setting Sayid off to find the balloon.

Now, on the other hand, if you want to talk about "Dave"...

(the other three you named live in that category. Fire + Water is possibly Lost's second worst episode (for me, Stranger in a Strange Land will always be the worst).

You're forgetting Exposé, buddy.

Exposé is a masterpiece and I will engage in verbal fisticuffs with anyone who thinks differently.

Golden wrote:Now, on the other hand, if you want to talk about "Dave"...

What? Who? Dave? Never...never heard of the guy.



Shut up! He's from New Zealand, not Australia. No, he's not a hobbit. Stop messing around!

Epignosis wrote:Everything sucks.

I thought this was Season 2, not Season 6.

This is the Fire + Water, Abandoned, Adrift, The Whole Truth part of the season. I.e. everything not in the hatch or relating to the Others.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Epi and Elo, would you be willing to vote INH?

mp, can you please stop disappearing from the thread, reappearing at the last possible second, and changing the vote against a civilian player?

please and thank you.

So you know DF is town? Quite the revelation.

dude, he was my biggest townread going into today.

if you hadn't of waited until the last hour to pop this case into the thread, maybe we could have discussed it.

This is Soneji all over again, don't doubt it for a second.

You're just as capable of making this observations as I am.

So you're accusing me of timing my entrances into the thread as a member of the mafia? What exactly do you think my strategy is here?

I also find it myopic that you're attributing the results here to me alone. Yes, I initiated both CFDs, and I accept responsibility for that, but I'm not the only DF voter. I couldn't have lynched him all by myself. What do you make of the other voters?

I dislike both of your cases against Soneji and DF, I think they were flimsy as hell, and made less sense than the cases which were being thrown around at the time.

I don't think that just because you "took a stand" and lead a case against a dude that you're automatically wiped clean away of any suspicion the next day because "I couldn't have lynched him all by myself." That's what my ma used to call fallacious reasoning.

I think CFD's present a good opportunity for the mafia to mislead the town by casting other, more on the mark, suspicions as "shady" and saying "I see the points against this person but I'm just not sure!"

Then, someone rides in on a white horse with a new head on a silver platter for everyone to chop off.

It's the old Monty Hall problem, like on Let's Make A Deal.

There are three doors. One has a prize, and the other two have goats. The host knows what's behind each one.

The player picks a door, and then the host opens another door to reveal a goat.

The host then offers the player a choice: keep the door they had before, or trade it for the other unopened one.

In this game, people are so afraid of the unknown, that they're willing to jump at an alternative just because it's "unexpected" and "different." And of course trying to get it going an hour before the EoD means naturally that you don't have to convince the entire thread. You have to convince everyone who's still there. If you spread enough paranoia, and enough doubt, skittish civilians are gonna trade in their doors for a new one.

And unlike in Let's Make A Deal, there's less of a chance of them getting it right when they do a last-minute switcheroo.

So, MP, I suspect you more for presenting these options than I do the players for buying into them but don't think for a second that I'm letting them off the hook. (Hence my rainbow list.)

MovingPictures07 wrote:Dinner time, BBL.

Linki: Well, fuck. RIP DF. I'm sorry I was wrong, but I don't regret my decision; I still stand by my assessment.

Now I suppose it's time to re-assess again.

Yep.

RAINBOW LIST:

Sorsha
Epignosis
Scotty
Quin
Spacedaisy
Elochin
MovingPictures

Not a single dude deserves above a yellow, in my book. MP and SD hijacked and hoodwinked the lynch away from Elo for the third consecutive time. Good job with the shell game. I'm still not 100% sold on SD and Elo being bad, SD could've made a mistake the last couple days, and Elo could be a smokescreen false-flag type deal. If Elo is good, I think Quin must be bad. (Insert "FALSE EQUIVALENCY WEE WOO WEE WOO SIRENS" here)

Scotty, Epi, and Sorsha I have little to no impression of. Scotty booked a trip on the MP Mislynch CFD Express D1, and then disappeared. Epi believes Elo is civ, which either looks good or bad depending on her alignment. Sorsha's the one I have the best view of, but not by much. She still gladly followed MP on a witch hunt today.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Epi and Elo, would you be willing to vote INH?

mp, can you please stop disappearing from the thread, reappearing at the last possible second, and changing the vote against a civilian player?

please and thank you.

So you know DF is town? Quite the revelation.

dude, he was my biggest townread going into today.

if you hadn't of waited until the last hour to pop this case into the thread, maybe we could have discussed it.

This is Soneji all over again, don't doubt it for a second.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Epi and Elo, would you be willing to vote INH?

mp, can you please stop disappearing from the thread, reappearing at the last possible second, and changing the vote against a civilian player?

please and thank you.

I'm stuck in the ugly situation where my two biggest scumreads are trying to lynch each other. I mean, duuude.

I agree with Elo about Quin on a couple things, one being his claim and specifically the way he's tried to play it off strike me as off. Then again, me and Quin have been going after one another since the game began- maybe I'm kinda biased.

I agree with DF that the end of both days could be interpreted as a save attempt for Elo. Specifically, Spacedaisy's D2 G-Man vote seems a little weak, and could be intended to tip the scales in his direction, especially as it comes a couple hours after DF's G-Man vote in the Hatch thread. SD basically saved Elo on D2, same as the Soneji CFD saved her on D1.

I'm inclined to go against Elo today, look at SD if she flips bad, and look at Quin if she flips civ.

Golden wrote:Shh, don't tell anyone, but the beach people are my favourite group.

Golden wrote:Shh, don't tell anyone, but the hatch people are my favourite group.

Not cool, dude.

It's favorite, not favourite.

Our thread.

If this breaks any rules, delete it Golden.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:Hey guys, has anyone seen Libby around? We were gonna go have a picnic, and she said she was gonna go grab some blankets...



But seriously, I really dislike the CFD shenanigans that occurred here. Going into Day 2, the Soneji voter-dudes are who I'm gonna be looking at.

Why wouldn't you look at and evaluate everyone's votes?

Obviously, I'm not gonna exclude anyone from suspicion.

It's more like I'm gonna be especially looking at the Soneji voter-dudes.

Quin wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:Hey guys, has anyone seen Libby around? We were gonna go have a picnic, and she said she was gonna go grab some blankets...



But seriously, I really dislike the CFD shenanigans that occurred here. Going into Day 2, the Soneji voter-dudes are who I'm gonna be looking at.

I'll be looking at you too.

Hey guys, has anyone seen Libby around? We were gonna go have a picnic, and she said she was gonna go grab some blankets...



But seriously, I really dislike the CFD shenanigans that occurred here. Going into Day 2, the Soneji voter-dudes are who I'm gonna be looking at.

I hate to break a promise, like how I said I'd inventory and ration out all of the Hatch food, and I just ended up giving it away to everyone, but I'm keeping my vote on Quin for the time being.

I don't like his reasoning for suspecting me, and I don't like his switcharoo over to MP and then back.

He just seems a little desperate to point his finger at someone for what are, in my opinion, kinda arbitrary reasons. It's enough for him to get a Day 1 vote from me.

If I was going to vote for anyone else, it'd probably be G-Man. That weird and obviously wrong logic behind wanting to clear Epi and Faraday (who is confusingly not playing as Faraday) just keeps annoying me, like a piece of cilantro stuck in my teeth.

Then again, he's the dude out here providing the most content, and I think some of his wack-o theories have something to them.

So, G-Man, you're waiting until you know which side has the most people you think are civilian to pick a location?

That means you must have a shortlist of dudes you think are good.

Let's hear 'em.

G-Man wrote:Considering that there is a 5.3% chance of repeating as a baddie cover role, I'm willing to chance it on Day 1.

This is the same like, logical fallacy that makes roulette players bet on red after a big string of blacks.

It's like saying I'm more likely to have a baddie role in this game because I've recently had a string of civilian roles.

If the cover roles really are randomly chosen, there's literally no reason to trust DFaraday and Epignosis for being Charlie and Kate.

Quin wrote:

Dom wrote:

Quin wrote:I want to know where people's thoughts are, so I'm breaking the '1st to vote' stigma with a vote for INH.

why

Elohcin wrote:

Quin wrote:I want to know where people's thoughts are, so I'm breaking the '1st to vote' stigma with a vote for INH.

Why him? You want to know people's thoughts. Tell us your own thoughts on INH.

I did, nerds

Quin wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:I feel like it's best to be upfront, y'know, to help the group out.

So, I'm Hugo Reyes, and I'm a vanilla civ. Dudes.

Also, the numbers are bad.

INH, I think you were scouting for potential power roles. What say you to this assertion?

I no longer think this.

Okay, dude. Then why is your vote on me?

I'm just gonna put my vote on you until you either give another explanation for why you suspect me, or you remove your vote.

I dunno about you guys, but I think Ana, I mean, G-Man's plan could help us out, especially in order to protect guys who say they have, like, power roles that could benefit the civ cause.

I'm willing to give it a shot, and I'm gonna head over to the Hatch tonight. Jack told me to inventory the food, so I'm gonna try and get started on that. Plus, there's a record player.

Anyone seen Jack around? He's been kinda silent lately. Probably just went marching off into the jungle to go save our lives again.

Quin wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:I feel like it's best to be upfront, y'know, to help the group out.

So, I'm Hugo Reyes, and I'm a vanilla civ. Dudes.

Also, the numbers are bad.

INH, I think you were scouting for potential power roles. What say you to this assertion?

I'd say you're wrong. Singling me out for roleclaiming when a bunch of other people did it as well just doesn't make sense to me, dude. I, like, didn't try to force anyone else to roleclaim or do anything like that. I just didn't see a downside to admitting that I'm a vanilla civilian.

Hey, has anyone seen Libby around? I just haven't seen her in ages...

G-Man wrote:Claire, Hurley, and Locke all died in the first game.

Could it be that simple or have we landed in the long-rumored zombie season?

You ever think this is, like, some kinda purgatory-type deal, and we're all really dead?

Nah, that'd be ridiculous.

I feel like it's best to be upfront, y'know, to help the group out.

So, I'm Hugo Reyes, and I'm a vanilla civ. Dudes.

Also, the numbers are bad.

I guess the real quandary facing us is that if half of us go to the hatch, and half of us go to the beach, and someone from the hatch is killed, do we automatically clear everyone on the Beach? That seems like it could potentially backfire and be taken advantage of.

so if the killer doesn't pick a side, RE: Beach or Hatch, he doesn't get to kill.

Is there any way we can take advantage of that?

@Golden: Can you tell us if there are multiple killers or not?

If there's only one, we could have half the players on each side, see who gets killed, then redistribute the witnesses onto opposite sides and see who gets bumped off until one person, the culprit, is left.

It'd be some kind of procedure of removal.

So.

Anyone got any spare rafts lying around?