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I concur. I'm really excited to see how they handle the later books in the series, as I think books 11, 12, and 13 are all stone-cold classics. If they can maintain the level of quality, while gradually becoming more dark and complicated, I'll be happy.Dragon D. Luffy wrote:So... the Nextlix show for this is pretty fucking great.
We've had some disagreements in the past over the POE strategy, so Golden (inadvertently) killing me via Mr. Poe seemed sort of poetic in a way.Long Con wrote:I don't get the name-based irony, explain!insertnamehere wrote:... Golden was Mr. Poe, (still laughing at that name-based irony) ...
DFaraday wrote:INH has been killed by Mr. Poe.
That's someone I've had a negative gut read of for a while. Planning to ISO him, Quin, and maybe a couple others when I get a chance.Epignosis wrote:I suspect Golden.
I would need all but one of the people who haven't voted to show up and go along with me on a wagon in the next couple hours. Barring any vote shenanigans, I don't see that as likely to happen.Long Con wrote:Don't vote Dom then. Don't vote that pointless vote, do something else...because I'm bad.insertnamehere wrote:I realize this is the most obvious, easy statement to make here, but I feel like the Dom bandwagon is too damn long and too damn unopposed to be legit, despite it having a bunch of people I trust on board. Unfortunately, it's too damn late for an actual legitimate alternative. So I'm kinda trapped.
Stop me if I'm reading this wrong, but doesn't it mean that me, DDL, and JoH are cleared from being a part of the Troupe?sig wrote:Also like I said last night assuming there weren't any shenanigans, which would mean an extra two votes on Sprit's not reported, nobody on Sprit's wagon was on his team.
Meaning Soneji, Epi, and Eloh are all cleared of being GHASTLY GUARDIANS, I'd include LC in that as well since he was the counter wagon to Sprit's, myself as well as DDL appeared to be counterwagons also, so I don't think we should be lynched this phase either.
LC and Sprityo were tied, and Sprityo got lynched. This means that his vote against LC counted as one, and not two.The Powder-Faced Women – Their vote counts for two as long as at least one other member of the Troupe votes the same way.
What is your case against Quin?Elohcin wrote:Before getting to work, I had to at least check out the lynch results. And I have to say...I think I'm pretty good at telling glorf's alignments. Quin...You thought there was nothing in my reasoning for voting that way....I think you ought to be next. Please try to convince me otherwise.
Since you voted for sig, no, not really.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Can I do anything about it?insertnamehere wrote:bit of a clusterfuckMetalmarsh89 wrote:Hi everyone!
I'm falling asleep on my phone herr, what'a going on?
bit of a clusterfuckMetalmarsh89 wrote:Hi everyone!
I'm falling asleep on my phone herr, what'a going on?
DFaraday wrote:INDEPENDENT (4)
THE VILLAGE OF FOWL DEVOTEES (2) – The Village of Fowl Devotees are a reclusive, authoritarian society with a strict code of laws. However, they are not actively malicious. They will win by surviving to the end. Each night the VFD has a block and a protect to use between them.
Mrs. Morrow
Mr. Lesko
DrWilgy wrote:You would.insertnamehere wrote:i'm honestly gonna feel bad if sprityo is lynched and flips civ.
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mucs thgils CL
mucs etaredom MM
vic etaredom ipE
vic gnorts HNI
vic gnorts ygliW
:mta sdaer HTG
.dlihc dettiwmid a ekil detaert eb ot tsuj uoy htiw gnigagne enod m'I .revetahw os ,uoy pots t'now taht wonk I tuB .yaw siht yalp uoy nehw su ot sselesu er'uoy ,era uoy teb dluow I hcihw ,vic era uoy fi oS .lla ta svic eht depleh ton sah noitautis siht ni evah uoy yaw eht tca ot eciohc ruoy wonk lla ew esuaceb tihs a evig lliw eno on dnA .yawyna eb lliw uoy tub ,gums eb ot thgir yna teg t'nod uoy taht thgir si HNI .esutbo gnieb ekil tsuj uoy kniht I ,elor ofni fo dnik yna evah uoy taht feileb orez evah I dnA .maet a sa ,seiddab eht tuo etuor nac yeht taht os sesac rieht sserpxe dna sthguoht erahs ,esrevnoc ot deen sviC ?taht wonk uoy ,emag siht yalp uoy nehw ssa na era uoY :ipE @
.uoy tsniaga esac sih ni llet eiddab gib emos dnuof evah uoy tbuod I .eurt ylbaborp si )ton tahw ro ,noitnetta hguone esolc gniyap t'nsaw eh( snoitcejbo ruoy ot esnopser ni uoy ot snoitanalpxe s'LDD taht ylekil erom hcum s'tI .seiddab eht ot tifeneb ssel raf sreffo dna reiksir yaw si pu tihs gnikaM .pu tihs gnikam naht rehtar seiddab rof gnihcraes ylevitca eb ot esnes erom tol a ekam dluow ti ,aifam si eh fi taht si ytilaer eht tuB .dab kool uoy ekam dna uoy tuoba eil ot gniyrt yllanoitnetni wohemos si eh taht esac eguh siht ekam uoY .LDD ot seilppa gniht emaS :CL @
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@ INH: I think your interactions with LC have had the reverse effect on me as they have had on Wilgy. I have found my belief in LC being town grow, slightly. There is still suspicion of him there, but his responses to you seem more in line with the kind of responses I would expect from a civ LC. Previously I did not feel like this was the case. Additionally, your characterization of Epi's position and vote have not been clearly thought through. No one needs to fabricate reads in this game, there are two baddie teams. Both teams will be hunting for the other baddies. I doubt either LC or Epi are being disingenuous, because there is no benefit to the mafia to do that kind of thing in a set up with two opposing baddie teams.
@ LC: Same thing applies to DDL. You make this huge case that he is somehow intentionally trying to lie about you and make you look bad. But the reality is that if he is mafia, it would make a lot more sense to be actively searching for baddies rather than making shit up. Making shit up is way riskier and offers far less benefit to the baddies. It's much more likely that DDL's explanations to you in response to your objections (he wasn't paying close enough attention, or what not) is probably true. I doubt you have found some big baddie tell in his case against you.
@ Epi: You are an ass when you play this game, you know that? Civs need to converse, share thoughts and express their cases so that they can route out the baddies, as a team. And I have zero belief that you have any kind of info role, I think you just like being obtuse. INH is right that you don't get any right to be smug, but you will be anyway. And no one will give a shit because we all know your choice to act the way you have in this situation has not helped the civs at all. So if you are civ, which I would bet you are, you're useless to us when you play this way. But I know that won't stop you, so whatever. I'm done engaging with you just to be treated like a dimwitted child.
GTH reads atm:
Wilgy strong civ
INH strong civ
Epi moderate civ
MM moderate scum
LC slight scum
Sidenote: If two people are baddies in this scenario I find it more likely to be sprityo and LC than LC and Epi. But that is a pretty big if imo.
none that I'm aware of.Golden wrote:Is there any reason for suspecting sprit that pertains to his own behaviour and not glorf?
The only reason people thought Glorfindel/sprityo 2.0 were scummy is because of the circumstances where Glorfindel replaced out of another game as a scum member.Long Con wrote:Well, you only disproved it, like, 15 minutes ago (and I haven't read it yetinsertnamehere wrote:I just fail to see why someone would think spirityo is scum, given that the "glorf replaced out because he was mafia" theory is disproven.)... and does your "disproval" also contain any reason to think he is town? I imagine it, at best, leaves it at neutral... and a read of Glorf for other reasons.
I did consider the angle where LC is good. I just thought it was smaller than all the angles of everyone else who had votes.Epignosis wrote:It just sucks that you won't consider the angle where LC is good.insertnamehere wrote:If I haven't totally convinced you that LC is bad, Wilgy, that's fine.
I just don't anyone can read the above post and go with sig's theory that Glorf replaced out due to him being mafia.
I mean, come on.
Before you complain, that has nothing to do with me giving you reasons why LC is good. That has to to do with you taking a critical step back.
In a world where votes were changeable, and everyone was around at EoD, who would you want to be lynched today?Epignosis wrote:Vote either of us then.DrWilgy wrote:At the rate things are going I'd think my fave votes are Epi or LC.sprityo wrote:@DrWilgy, do you have any ideas on who you'd vote?
linki: yeah, but if we yknow, agree to help eachother outthen there wont be a chance of either me or LC getting lynched. as crappy as that sounds
Just kinda trust INH this time (which is abnormal).
EBWOPinsertnamehere wrote:If I haven't totally convinced you that LC is bad, Wilgy, that's fine.
I just don't see how anyone can read the quote from Glorf earlier today and go with sig's theory that Glorf replaced out due to him being mafia.
I mean, come on.
posted by Glorf earlier today in a separate thread.Glorfindel wrote:I acknowledge this is a rather extraordinary thing to do but this Star Wars game was my very first game here at The Syndicate and my actions in this game have (by some players) been misinterpreted and manipulated to the detriment of performance in games I've played since. I feel it is important then that I be given the opportunity to address this matter so that players in this game understand my side of this story and can make an informed decision on my historical actions.
It has been alleged that I left this game as a direct consequence of my (Mafia) alignment. I reject this assertion totally. I withdrew from this game at the beginning of Day 6 and other than voting for MacDougall, did not post at all from the beginning of that Day phase. What wasn't apparent to the general player population was that I had received a PM from our game Host at the end of Night 5 to the effect:
At the time of my departure from this game, I was under heavy suspicion from a number of players and together with the responsibility I felt to my team in that game and other external, non-game related matters, I felt (at the time) that this direction placed me in an intolerable position where I could no longer adequately defend myself and I departed from the game immediately after fulfilling the requirements of that Host direction. I accept that my actions in that regard were wrong, it was immature and that it was not responsible. Under the circumstances that prevailed at that time however, fueled by intense frustration, I felt as though I had little option than to do what I did. The TRUTH of this matter IS that I was motivated by frustration and would (regrettably) very likely have left the game at that point IRRESPECTIVE OF MY ALIGNMENT.Epignosis wrote:You have been spit on and afflicted by madness by crumb. You may not mention the madness and you must vote for Mac for the duration of tomorrow. You may also not mention or quote any player that isn't mac or you will die.
Looking back I do regret my actions on that occasion (as described above) and I trust anyone who reads this will not judge me harshly for them.
i dunno.Epignosis wrote:Then I expect you to vote me next after you're done with LC.insertnamehere wrote:for a disagreement, there needs to be two people with opposing viewpoints engaging in some form of discourse.Epignosis wrote:I still think INH is good here. We disagree.
this is just me yelling at a wall.
Spirityo has yet to vote in the poll.Soneji wrote:I already gave my thoughts on LC. spirityo is voting for self preservation, which doesn't indicate much to me.insertnamehere wrote:I'd extend the same query to Sig and Soneji
for a disagreement, there needs to be two people with opposing viewpoints engaging in some form of discourse.Epignosis wrote:I still think INH is good here. We disagree.
hell, throw JoH in there too, I'm feeling generousinsertnamehere wrote:I'd extend the same query to Sig and Soneji
i think that's the nicest thing you've ever said about me, Epi.Epignosis wrote:You seem a lot smarter than you are.insertnamehere wrote:lolEpignosis wrote:Remaining civilians: Look at the timing of my vote post and the post before it. sprityo's only concern was not being lynched.
epi just realized how boned he is if LC is lynched.
lolEpignosis wrote:Remaining civilians: Look at the timing of my vote post and the post before it. sprityo's only concern was not being lynched.
It's up to you, spirityo.sprityo wrote:ive been monitoring this game like a hawk for the past 5 hours epi, i did not want a repeat of day 1
why would a baddie buddy up to a civilian who is taking a bunch of in-thread heat?Long Con wrote:A baddie would buddy up to a Civvie in order to make that Civ trust them in a "we are so on the same page, we must both be Civ" kind of way.insertnamehere wrote:Why would a baddie buddy up to you? Why would Ishmael buddy up to you if he wanted to covertly recruit you? Why would Ishmael want to covertly recruit you, of all people, in the first place?Long Con wrote:I don't think there is any illumination to be had either way. Epi is as much a mystery to me as he is to the rest of you. If he's a Civ cop-type, then he's being blatant and will get killed for it (which is why I don't think he is one). If he's bad, then he's buddying me. If he's Indy... maybe he's eyeing me for Ishmael's team!DrWilgy wrote:No, but an Epi lynch would be illuminative of LC's. As I don't believe LC's interactions with Epi are fair to judge him for, Epi's interactions with LC would be.insertnamehere wrote:Do you agree that a LC lynch would be illuminative about Epi's alignment?DrWilgy wrote:I'm not asking who's good. Thank you for giving me a decent reason to think you are bad though.Epignosis wrote:No. I'm not offering you anything more. I think LC is good. Find your own damn reasons and make up your own minds.More excitement!
Um, the Ishmael thing was not serious, dude.
Ooh, are we restating cases?Long Con wrote:I just don't understand how a person could, three separate times, twist the truth to make me look worse... and it's completely innocent. Maybe once, it could be a mistake. A misread. But THREE TIMES? That indicates that his primary intention is to make people believe I'm bad, and that he's looking for ways to use thread stuff to push that, accuracy be damned.Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Finding INH to be more convincing than LC. Confused by the accusations of "no conviction" in INH. Seems to have some conviction from where I'm standing. I'm more worried about accuracy than conviction. Completely agree that LC's focus has been on discrediting DDL in general than addressing accusations of noncommitalness/blending, which I think was the most important point brought up. (I do agree with LC on the specifics of the Glor statement. But that goes back to attacking the accuser, not the accusation.)
He took the fact that I had a weak and noncommittal Day 1, and decided I was a weak member of the pack, and moved to capitalize on that.
I'm pestering him for things I think make him mafia.Epignosis wrote:INH, do you really think you've caught Mafia or are you just pestering LC for things he did you didn't like?
Y'know how this is going to go, right?sprityo wrote:well we have time, and time will tell who isnt luckyinsertnamehere wrote:what about the situation now?sprityo wrote:in the current situation? noinsertnamehere wrote:would you vote Long Con to save yourself?sprityo wrote:Upset Townyinsertnamehere wrote:Spirityo, GTH, what is your read on...drumroll...Long Con?
if it was just the two of us with no chance of anyone else, yes.
Epi still hasnt voted correct? and he also thinks LC is town
Why would a baddie buddy up to you? Why would Ishmael buddy up to you if he wanted to covertly recruit you? Why would Ishmael want to covertly recruit you, of all people, in the first place?Long Con wrote:I don't think there is any illumination to be had either way. Epi is as much a mystery to me as he is to the rest of you. If he's a Civ cop-type, then he's being blatant and will get killed for it (which is why I don't think he is one). If he's bad, then he's buddying me. If he's Indy... maybe he's eyeing me for Ishmael's team!DrWilgy wrote:No, but an Epi lynch would be illuminative of LC's. As I don't believe LC's interactions with Epi are fair to judge him for, Epi's interactions with LC would be.insertnamehere wrote:Do you agree that a LC lynch would be illuminative about Epi's alignment?DrWilgy wrote:I'm not asking who's good. Thank you for giving me a decent reason to think you are bad though.Epignosis wrote:No. I'm not offering you anything more. I think LC is good. Find your own damn reasons and make up your own minds.
what about the situation now?sprityo wrote:in the current situation? noinsertnamehere wrote:would you vote Long Con to save yourself?sprityo wrote:Upset Townyinsertnamehere wrote:Spirityo, GTH, what is your read on...drumroll...Long Con?
if it was just the two of us with no chance of anyone else, yes.
