The Syndicate

John Coltrane wrote:I'm here for a bit, mostly (and, unfortunately, skimming, as I meant to read more last night since I knew I'd be busy this evening).

juliets wrote: I have moved away from Coltrane but he does only have 3 posts as someone just pointed out and in his last post he seemed angry and then gave up. I'm not wild about that but I guess it doesn't mean he's bad.
Sorry for not responding right away, juliets - I was irritated last night and needed to step away. I'll respond to this:

juliets wrote:John, it would be helpful to me if you would just remind me of what things you said in the main thread. You're right that low contribution doesn't mean no contribution it's just that nothing stands out to me. So maybe just a short synopsis of what your suspicions or thoughts were would be helpful. Thanks.
And wow, it's a lot harder to remember even my own posts from a thread I can't check. Basically, I threw out three suspicions: Mac, sig, and Epi as a tinfoil because I believed him to be steering the thread. Now that Epi's been NK'ed, I wish I could look back more at who exactly I saw being steered and voting every which way he went. I eventually settled on Mac because I liked the meta argument more than anything else, knowing I'd be last on the train.

Someone said my vote was a "useless" vote at the end of a train, but I would disagree, for sure - we don't know about manipulations or anything of the sort, so having a large majority lead on one person is helpful. Also, I'd be called out whether or not I voted Mac (at the end of a train or on sig instead), so there's that. But I digress.

Here's what I like so far being said in this thread:

1) I find Scotty's comments on Prisoner regarding his/her disinterest in The Process compelling if, indeed, there is a Process role. The Process would be one to say that Cheerleader is not much to be looked at at this moment Then again, I can also empathize with Prisoner's sentiments - I'm almost always inclined to ignore the "buzzing" of these random additions. Then again (yes, again), it IS the GoC, so this is less likely to be an annoyance and more likely to be something not to ignore.

2) This:
S~V~S wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Because you guys are following Golden's vote around, you being the primary one.

Question to everyone on the beach: who would you lynch if everyone was on the poll and not just the Sand-Surfers?
I'd probably still go with Sig, but I'm increasingly comfortable with my vote for Soneji.
Does it make a difference to you that Soneji voted for sig on Day 1?

Linki: I'll read you later.
Easy distancing perhaps? People voting for each other in a thread with changeable votes doesn't mean much for gauging connection.

Linki @Prisoner. OK.

I have said what she did, but am happy to do so again. In the other thread, she made one big post where she said she felt Made and Wilgy were getting a bad rap. She did this without pointing fingers at anyone who might be giving them a bad rap, though. Then she wrote several sentences saying nothing, and said that she felt OK about me, LC and (???). "Same old same old" kind of thing. No negative opinions, or even remotely critical, about anyone. Bea and I have a long history. I want to know where she is at. So far I am not sure she is at the same place I am. I am not sure she has expressed even one remote suspect. Bea is always polite, but Bea does not shrink from speaking her mind, even if it is in a very passive way.

Bea is a huge question mark for me.
Poor bea has been sick, but this reminds me of another game (for the life of me, I can't remember, nor do I really want to look for/reveal in order not to risk my identity being more obvious ), but the last game I played with her, this is the same sort of behavior she exhibited when bad - not offering much solid opinion. It's always hard to vote bea, since she's just so friggin' nice. But I'm most compelled in that direction today, mostly because I'm tired and was thinking about voting her for these reasons earlier today, anyway.

3) Also this:
thellama73 wrote:
Prisoner 27385 wrote:Is there more to the Soneji case than his denouncement of meta-analysis? Because I can't vote for him if that's it.
There's a little more to it. I initially noticed Soneji for his avoidance of mentioning Macdougall, even when he was the central topic of discussion. The meta comment combined with that observation to form my suspicion, as I think baddies often forget to talk about one another.
Same reason for bea, same reason to look at Prisoner (except this is more compelling, as Macdougall is confirmed baddie. Avoidance. May also vote here.

Other thoughts:

1) Perhaps Golden keeps changing his vote in order to get discussion going on those people, rather than actually placing the vote? Since he appears to be silenced? I kinda wish I'd been around in real time to see his switches, but y'all are doing a good job of commenting when he moves, so...

Okay, actually, I keep seeing linki and want to post, and also I see votes. This is the first free moment I've had all day, so sorry for the delay! Gonna put the vote on Soneji at this time.

John, I just wanted to ask you about this post. In it you say you felt most compelled to vote bea but you ended up voting for Soneji. What was it that convinced you to go with him in the end over bea? If you want to wait until day to answer I'm fine with that I just wanted to ask before we don't have access to the post anymore.

Donna Meagle wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Quotes fixed

Donna Meagle wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Because sig was a solid lynch candidate on Day 1, making someone who voiced a suspicion of him a solid contributor to trying to lynch him.
How does that make a soneji lynch so obviously a bad iea?
Since this is almost like another Day 1, I thought it good enough reason to PoE Soneji.

Donna Meagle wrote:
Boomslang wrote:Arrgh, shitty result. RIP Soneji. Cheerleader putting him over the edge looks really shady, but I don't know how much can be gleaned from that considering the sock. My gut tells me whoever is controlling that account wouldn't double up? I think MM comes out looking the best from this lynch: made valid points in counter of Soneji, voted where his mouth was. I thought llama had a good case, but I hope we hear from him in the aftermath.
How do you know that this happened?
The lynch poll says so.
hwo do you know the cheerleaders vote counted?

To Donna's point, the Cheerleader in the Transistor game had a vote worth 0.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Well I'll just post it in this thread, just in case.

I... am going to go out on a limb and assume it's legal.

Nope.

-JJJ

Thanks for being willing Metalmarsh but I surely don't want you to break any rules.

Did anyone happen to capture the lynch poll? I don't see it in the polls available to us.

thellama73 wrote:I am hopeless at trying to figure out who's behind sock accounts, so I don't bother trying.

yeah I am usually very bad at guessing socks. I used to not even try when they would have those contests in sock games to guess who was behind each sock.

S~V~S wrote:
And while I agree that I wish we had not lynched a civvie, I am OK with the vote I made. He felt evasive and not wanting to be helpful. Juliet's vote, though, makes me go hrm.

I don't mind some suspicion but I will say this again: I would have to be dumb to do a meta analysis of Soneji earlier in the day basically clearing him in my mind and then changing to him at the last minute when I knew he was good. Go back and take a look at what I wrote about him earlier in the day. Or tell me and I'll link you to it. The smart move for me would have been to stay on bea, whether she is civ or bad. I said earlier why I changed my vote so I won't repeat myself.

On the cheerleader it makes sense that if the Process is indy then she is indy. The only thing in the back of my mind is in the original Transistor game it looks like the Process had to be destroyed by the civs to win. Doesn't this mean the Process was bad and by extension all those "tendrils" would be bad? Scotty since you played a "tendril" you seem to be our resident expert on this role, am I right that the Process was considered bad? Another thought that occurs to me though is if the Process was bad in that game it doesn't necessarily mean it's bad in this one. Oh well, the cheerleader is really on the periphery of my vision right now though I agree with whoever said it probably means the Process is among us.

I hope we can do something productive with the day today.

Ahhh Sloonei. That would make sense as I don't know him very well at all. I don't think it's rico because rico has been at work during times Prisoner has been here, though some things he says are very rico-like ("my sources tell me...").

I also suspected sig and thought Scotty made some good points about Quin in the other thread. I hate that I've missed a whole day of behavior for each of them.

S~V~S wrote:I think saying who is who we think are the socks would be disrespectful to the hosts and the players behind the socks.

I can live with that. I don't think I've played much with the prisoner given his sources don't know much about me.

Also bea I get what you are saying about not having much info from the other thread. You can only do what you can do.

Thanks bea. What I was more looking for was who you think might be bad. Are you saying you think Marshmallow might be bad?

lots o'linki

Golden, I know it would help me with reads if I knew who the socks were. I'm pretty sure I know Donna and Farnsworth but I'm completely unsure about Prisoner and Coltrane. I'll be fine though if the group thinks we shouldn't share - I just like to meta read (obviously).

bea, I know it's night but are you ready to give some reads? I really stuck my neck out and changed my vote from you to give you a chance to give us something.

Golden wrote:I agree bea wouldn't fake being sick. I wondered if part of your vote was because you find it hard to vote for bea.

I find it hard to vote for her when she's sick and overworked at the same time, however, if Soneji had given us some reads I would have voted for her. It was his refusal that Booms pointed out that put me over the edge.

I feel bad but I will say in my defense it would be pretty dumb to do a meta analysis that was on point and then flip and vote that person if I knew they were good.

Golden wrote:
juliets wrote:Yeah as it turns out my analysis of his meta was good I guess. No comfort in that though.
It was bang on. I have to figure out if it's just bad luck, or a bad look, on you. You also suspected bea, and I really don't understand why you turned around on soneji when you had a suspect on the board. Can you explain what pushed you away from voting bea?

Yes. I truly believe she is sick and I know (because I know what she does for a living) her work situation was bad so I decided to give her the benefit of the doubt. In my mind Soneji refusing to give us reads was like bea not giving us reads so it was six of one, half dozen of the other and I gave the botd to bea. Also, I began to doubt he was telling the truth when he said his comment about meta was directed at you and not at the situation with Mac. Ironically reading back over Soneji's posts convinced me that my meta analysis was not as important as the evidence I was seeing in the thread. My original analysis as it turns out looks like it was right on point.

Golden wrote:Hi guys, I'm back. Of course I wasn't faking, as though I could be that patient for two days.

I was doing everything I could to protect Soneji. I was sure he was civ and really didn't like the case on him, but couldn't exactly communicate it. Juliets is by far the worst of the voters in my view. She was right on - soneji talked about 'meta is a crutch' in response to me trying to find out who the socks were so I could rely on their meta, and he is not the person who would ever participate in gth (can you imagine epi being lynched for not participating in gth???). The case was really weak for me and so was juliets flip.

On the other hand, how Trump is a civilian is beyond me.

I agree with everyone that we had no good options though, just the best we could do. Bea may well be civ as well.

I'll try and catch up with thoughts on other things. So bummed I was silenced.

Let's hope sig was lynched over at the hatch.

Yeah as it turns out my analysis of his meta was good I guess. No comfort in that though.

Well damn. Sorry guys and sorry soneji.

Looks like we're spending the night together.

Donna, I see your response to me re: your post. Maybe I misunderstood what you were saying. Thanks for explaining.

I'm back because I changed my mind. The part of Booms post I quoted re: not giving reads is sticking in my craw. I want to give bea a chance and as I said, Soneji is doing exactly the same thing only in reverse. So as wishy-washy as it makes me look, I'm changing my vote to Soneji. Now I really HAVE to start dinner.

I have to go start dinner. For the moment I'm going to change my vote to bea. If she comes back with some solid baddie reads I may very well change to soneji. The more I think about him refusing to give reads the more I don't like it.

Donna, my point about your memory is you did not post much in the other thread and I would expect you to remember if you had a post with llama's name in it whether you suspected him or were responding to him. I remember a lot of things from the other thread though not everything. I certainly remember who I suspected and I would expect you to too.

John Coltrane wrote:
2) This:
S~V~S wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Because you guys are following Golden's vote around, you being the primary one.

Question to everyone on the beach: who would you lynch if everyone was on the poll and not just the Sand-Surfers?
I'd probably still go with Sig, but I'm increasingly comfortable with my vote for Soneji.
Does it make a difference to you that Soneji voted for sig on Day 1?

Linki: I'll read you later.
Easy distancing perhaps? People voting for each other in a thread with changeable votes doesn't mean much for gauging connection.

Linki @Prisoner. OK.

I have said what she did, but am happy to do so again. In the other thread, she made one big post where she said she felt Made and Wilgy were getting a bad rap. She did this without pointing fingers at anyone who might be giving them a bad rap, though. Then she wrote several sentences saying nothing, and said that she felt OK about me, LC and (???). "Same old same old" kind of thing. No negative opinions, or even remotely critical, about anyone. Bea and I have a long history. I want to know where she is at. So far I am not sure she is at the same place I am. I am not sure she has expressed even one remote suspect. Bea is always polite, but Bea does not shrink from speaking her mind, even if it is in a very passive way.

Bea is a huge question mark for me.
Poor bea has been sick, but this reminds me of another game (for the life of me, I can't remember, nor do I really want to look for/reveal in order not to risk my identity being more obvious ), but the last game I played with her, this is the same sort of behavior she exhibited when bad - not offering much solid opinion. It's always hard to vote bea, since she's just so friggin' nice. But I'm most compelled in that direction today, mostly because I'm tired and was thinking about voting her for these reasons earlier today, anyway.

This ^ explains well how I feel about bea. Poor thing, she is sick, I truly believe that. But I also believe she doesn't offer much solid when she is bad. So I'm really torn about whether to vote her.

Boomslang wrote: Llama's case on Soneji seems the most solid out of anything so far. Omitting the lynchee from discussion while questioning the judgment used to lynch him is textbook indirect mafia support. I also don't like Soneji quickly jumping to "You didn't see me defend Mac, did you?" when talking about his distrust of meta. That seemed to me to be ahead of llama's questioning. Doth protest too much. And whoa, Soneji saying "As for a GTH, everyone is bad in my eyes until they flip otherwise" is just a tremendous cop-out of responsibility. Could at least say he didn't have time or just ignore the request altogether. And there's some snarky sarcasm that doesn't read right.

And this point that I underlined about Soneji is something I didn't fully consider. It is a cop out, damn right Boomslang. That's just as bad as bea only being able to name people she likes - it's the exact opposite but in my mind the same principle. Soneji if you come back into the thread I would like to see your reads on everyone. I think the rest of us except for bea (and maybe Donna) have done that (someone correct me if I'm wrong).

So, it looks like we have a three way tie right now if Cheerleader's vote really counts. My lean is toward bea or Soneji.

Donna Meagle I see you voted for bea without explaining. Could you tell us why you voted for her?

John, thank you for your post, I feel better about you now.

I'm interested in the Soneji votes. Maybe my meta analysis on him was off as so many of you are seeing a baddie soneji. I really thought his "meta as a crutch post" came in the middle of the Mac lynch and not after a Golden post but I have no way to see that. I won't argue against a lynch there since there are obviously some strong feelings about it.

S~V~S - how are you feeling about bea's posts? I wish she had named some suspicions in the times she has posted today.

I'm going to go ahead and move my vote to Coltrane and then see what happens from here.

Scotty wrote:
juliets wrote:Thats the kind of post I was expecting from Booms if he was good. So now I just need to decide where to move my vote.
I don't remember what you thought of bea, juliets, but my vote is now between her and Soneji.
Llama seems fairly convinced about Soneji, which could just be a spitting llama looking for grass.
Bea seems to be fairly engaging now, but still dawdling in my minds' eye. She still feels like she lacks content, and what may have happened is that she legitimately had no time over the past week to contribute and at the same time was unconsciously using it as a crutch as a baddie. I could see both scenarios.

I'm still uncertain who to vote if I am to change my vote.

Linki: I also don't think she would use it as an excuse to be indicative of her alignment, but it is convenient.

When we did GTH reads I read bea as bad because of lack of suspicions including the fact that she didn't vote because even when she's at work she manages to steal away and vote on her phone. I don't think she would lie about having a cold but I'm also concerned that she has posted several times but we haven't seen any suspicions.

I'm also wary of Coltrane though. I GTH'd him as bad too. He left last night after presumably getting mad that we suspected him. He's not provided any good reads either that I can see so how is that any different from bea.

I will more than likely vote one of these two.

linki will read after

Thats the kind of post I was expecting from Booms if he was good. So now I just need to decide where to move my vote.

Prisoner 27385 wrote:
bea wrote:To be fair llama, I didnt interact with you yesterday either. Pretty hard to interact with anyone through the 10 pages of chatter i was passed out during.

I dont understand why boom is suspicious outside of not posting much.

I like the priz, i like svs, i like jc. They are reading civ. ??? For everyone else.

Made keeps making me flip flop.

Im not sure i completely get the back and forth between songj and llama.
What do you think of Scotty and juliets?

Prisoner, I am the "jc" she's referring to, juliet's coffee used to be my full screen name and people still call me "jc".

I've thought about a role that has choices of what they want to do each night and maybe they picked silencing and then maybe there is a silencer role as well but Epi had a role that allowed him to choose among abilities and I don't know that there would be two such roles in one game. Gosh that was a long sentence. I also thought about a mimic but then again, why hasn't Boom voted?

If Booms is faking being silenced why wouldn't he vote?

I guess Golden could be faking it but he likes to talk so much I tend to doubt it.

Boomslang, I see you are here. Please post!

Something to point out in Made's favor is he only had about 30 posts total in the Felt game we just played where he was bad. He was blendy in that game, and he remarked that when he's mafia he overthinks things which makes it hard to get things into the thread. I guess he could have radically changed his style this game but I really think you can't change that much in one game.

thellama73 wrote:
Made wrote: before I forgot, this isn't true. Surprised llama didn't point this out actually because he's the one i'm quoting.
According to a post from night one he made,
the players who mac talked to that day or quoted by name that day were Golden, priz, Wilgy, DH, Boom, Quin, Sig, Epi, MM, llama, juliets, me, LC, BR, John Coltrane, and Sorsha. The players who talked about or quoted mac by name were Priz, Quin, Epi, Mm, llama, juliets, Professor, BR, LC, Myself, Wilgy, Golden, Scotty, Sig, DH, Boom, John Colltrane, Sorsha, and Lorab

The players who neither talked about nor talk to him bea. bwt, Soneji, Floyd, and timmer

Source: this happened to be on the one page i had open in another tab.
Thanks for digging up that list, Made. I needed a refresher on it. The fact that Bea was on the "no interaction" list is one of the reasons I am more willing to lynch her than I am Boomslang, for example. Until now I have been giving her the benefit of the doubt because of her illness, but my patience for non-contributors is running out.

Does anyone recall what Booms said about Mac? I only remember him randomizing among the Mac voters as opposed to saying anything about Mac. My memory is not the best after two days. I do agree llama I am out of patience with the non-contributors.

Prisoner, could you refresh my memory about what you said about Coltrane's vote on Mac in the other thread?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:My vote is a placeholder vote.

I'm off now, I'll be back later. I'll likely vote for a low-poster when I do. I don't feel strongly about a suspicion of anyone. I'm willing to give Made the benefit of the doubt with regards to whether he bussed MacDougall or not, at least until we can see the posts from Day 1.

As for bea, I asked others what they think about her posts in this thread, but got no response. I find her entrance to this thread (and Day 2) to be genuine.

While Soneji did not vote for Mac on Day 1, he did vote for sig, a suspicion I share.

As such, I will likely vote Boomslang unless he responds, or at least demonstrates that he's paying attention. Actually, I'll go ahead and vote Boomslang now!

Later, Beach Bums.

Linki: There were eight (8) votes on Mac.

Hey MM, it doesn't look like you changed your vote but at least I know from this you don't suspect Scotty as your highest suspicion any longer.

Thanks Made, I appreciate your passion.

Just fyi Prisoner, there were 9 votes on Mac. If you look at the top of the vote record in the vote thread you will see that Daisy made a note that the version of the poll she captured was prior to the end of the poll, and that sorsha was the 9th voter for Mac. I don't think that changes your analysis, Made is still in the middle, I just bring it up in case it becomes important to you later on down the road, for example in an analysis of sorsha.

I've already said what I thought about Soneji - not going to vote there today unless something else compelling comes up.

I'm not seeing the suspicions on Prisoner and Scotty. In fact, I'd like to hear MM's reasoning for a Scotty vote.

I could still vote bea. She hasn't really allayed my concerns but she seems to be trying. I could also vote for Made. The more I thought about it the more I don't like that initial question to us about the other thread, and I'm not wild about the S~V~S post I quoted. I'm also wondering if Epi's suspicion of Made might be what got him killed. It was early though, before his suspicion of Mac.

I have moved away from Coltrane but he does only have 3 posts as someone just pointed out and in his last post he seemed angry and then gave up. I'm not wild about that but I guess it doesn't mean he's bad.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
juliets wrote:I have determined I'm not going to vote Soneji today, at least based on my current information. I have been reading Turf Wars, a game where he was bad and I do see he's not afraid to vote for a teammate early (at least I think he voted for ika, a teammate early - thats what it looks like in the post). More importantly, part of the reason he was making me uneasy is he doesn't really seem engaged in this game but I found reference in the other game that he is generally cold and aloof. Finally, his low post count was of concern to me but I also found reference in the other game to the fact that he had posted there far more than he normally does so I gather he is generally reserved with his posting.

I may vote for Made.
I wonder if Soneji will appreciate this meta research.

hahaha probably not -

I have determined I'm not going to vote Soneji today, at least based on my current information. I have been reading Turf Wars, a game where he was bad and I do see he's not afraid to vote for a teammate early (at least I think he voted for ika, a teammate early - thats what it looks like in the post). More importantly, part of the reason he was making me uneasy is he doesn't really seem engaged in this game but I found reference in the other game that he is generally cold and aloof. Finally, his low post count was of concern to me but I also found reference in the other game to the fact that he had posted there far more than he normally does so I gather he is generally reserved with his posting.

I may vote for Made.

Prisoner 27385 wrote:
juliets wrote:
S~V~S wrote:I just checked, my role is word for word. Maybe it's a mix, since Macs wasn't even an actual role?

And thanks for the explanation, Scotty. Maybe she can protect whoever has the process role? The player?
My role is also word for word.
"word for word" as in it is an exact copy of a role from a previous game?

Yes for me.

S~V~S wrote:I just checked, my role is word for word. Maybe it's a mix, since Macs wasn't even an actual role?

And thanks for the explanation, Scotty. Maybe she can protect whoever has the process role? The player?

My role is also word for word.

Ooooh ok Scotty. I think I see now. And yeah, it's odd that the cheerleader is here but there are no process elements to protect. I'll discount the cheerleader for the rest of the day.

Made, I have two things for you in looking over your posts. First, can you explain what you meant in the underlined portion?

Made wrote:Ok, so I do not know SVS's meta but she's reading really lowkey to me. Like from the games i remember she's been very much at the forefront of baddie hunting and theory making and stuff and things, but day 1 and so far during beach day, she seems to be throwing ideas in thread with relatively isolated back and forth. I didn't look at her day 1 post ISO but she did have the same number of post as me during day 1 (31) which i felt i was personally lacking relative to my typical standard. Given it's probably has been like 2 years since I've played with her, I wanted to point this out.

Also, you said in another post that you didn't vote for Mac based on the meta analysis, that you had another case on him. Since you voted at the same time as the meta analysis was going on I assumed thats why you had voted him. What was that case or reason you voted for him if it wasn't that?

Finally, I mentioned it before but just a reminder, could you explain why you wanted us to look at people in the other thread?

bea wrote:I admit to some skimming, but i want to look more llama feels a bit like he is going with the flow. I dont understand why people are voting boom at all. And Id like to look back at the talks with made and jc. Im working on it but driving to work right now.

bea, there were no "talks" with me and made. He indicated he felt one of my posts was "off" and I addressed the areas of my post that sounded off to him. That's all there was to the interaction.

thellama73 wrote:I notice a pile of votes on Boomslang. Can someone refresh me on that case? Is it just because he's absent?

For me it's because none of his posts in the game indicated agreement with people, suspicions, or in any way engaged with the topics of the game. I just made a post ^ that talked about what he posted that I can remember. I looked at two of his other games and though he was quiet he at least was posting on game related subjects.

As I indicated above though I am nervous that he's been here but didn't post. It seems to me if someone is bad they would at least post something to try and keep from taking votes. I'm seriously considering moving my vote, it's just a matter of who to move it to.

On another subject I went to the game the Process was in and found that the civs had to destroy the Process to win. That tells me the Process was a bad entity and it seems like that would extend to the cheerleader as well. I could be wrong about that last part though since I'm not clear on those roles that were part of the Process other than what Scotty has posted.

It just occurred to me though if we have a mimicer why hasn't Boomslang voted like Golden did to show us he is silenced?

S~V~S wrote:Could we have two silencers? Unlikely, and he WAS in here earlier and said nothing. Plus I don't recall him being all that chatty in the first thread. But I would rather not vote for hi without hearing from him.

Made, how many posts did Boomslang have in the main thread?

I'm not the math whiz Made is but I can tell you I remember 3: a Soviet Russia joke, answers to DH's questions, and his randomized vote post for Long Con. He voted for the beach so he may have had a post there that I just don't remember. I remember the others because I was eyeing him and even went and looked up two other games to see how he posted there in early days. His posts in those two games at least showed engagement with the topics though he did not post much in either game. I'm nervous about him being here and not posting though. I agree that it's unlikely that there's a second silencer but could there be a role that mimics the powers of other players and last night he/she mimicked the silencer?

thellama73 wrote:
juliets wrote:I understand what you're saying now MM, thanks.

llama, hate to keep pushing on the cheerleader but I'm just trying to understand. Why did you rate him/her as GTH bad if the game is kind of hazy for you?
I actually think the Cheerleader is probably neither bad nor good, but in a GTH read you can't sit on the fence, and I distrust mysterious and enigmatic accounts who can apparently vote to lynch us, even though we know nothing about them.

Ok, thanks -

I understand what you're saying now MM, thanks.

llama, hate to keep pushing on the cheerleader but I'm just trying to understand. Why did you rate him/her as GTH bad if the game is kind of hazy for you?

Gahhh! Booms was here but didn't defend himself or add anything to the discussion. I don't know how to read that. If he was bad wouldn't he have said something?

Llama same question I had for MM last night - can you talk about the cheerleader? I didn't play that game so I have no idea how to rate him/her.

I don't see an answer to my question so MM if you come in could you explain why you wanted us to talk about people in the other thread? While I'm at it, Made why did you want to talk about the others?

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