The Syndicate

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:21 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:20 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:24 pm
Soneji wrote: ↑Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:16 pm Co-hosting Favorites on NF is just a given now.

Is The Syndicate really ready for Favorites? Did this game prepare them enough?
Well they had U-Pick early this year, which is basically Baby Favorites.

Not sure if they are ready but maybe the only way for them to be ready is throw them right into it.

Or we could get Shizune to host a game in the next queue. A good old WoW game with 6 factions and 3 indies should be a good warm-up. I'd be barred from the queue anyway since I just hosted this. Then we launch Favorites at the end of 2019.
LOL we're not babies. We may not be familiar with the set up but that doesn't mean we'll run crying to our mamas unless it's poorly run or poorly designed. Bring it on I say.
(it's just trash talking, please don't mind it)

But yeah I'm pretty sure this place can handle crazy setups just fine. After CC123 I don't doubt anything.

HaHaHa so true!

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:24 pm
Soneji wrote: ↑Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:16 pm Co-hosting Favorites on NF is just a given now.

Is The Syndicate really ready for Favorites? Did this game prepare them enough?
Well they had U-Pick early this year, which is basically Baby Favorites.

Not sure if they are ready but maybe the only way for them to be ready is throw them right into it.

Or we could get Shizune to host a game in the next queue. A good old WoW game with 6 factions and 3 indies should be a good warm-up. I'd be barred from the queue anyway since I just hosted this. Then we launch Favorites at the end of 2019.

LOL we're not babies. We may not be familiar with the set up but that doesn't mean we'll run crying to our mamas unless it's poorly run or poorly designed. Bring it on I say.

And [mention]poutanko[/mention] again, PLLLEEEEEEAAAAASSSSEEEE go sign up for A World Asunder. LC and BR are excellent hosts and their map games are a scream. We'll all be in the same boat with lots of posters at the beginning so don't let that scare you.

DDL have I said congrats on a great game yet? If not, this was awesome. Like dunya, this and U-Pick have been my favorites. This one was just so intricate, so many moving parts, and honestly I never thought about a secret role which just made it more exciting. You did a fabulous job.

And congrats DH, you did a great job. Certainly my pick for Best Indie.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Nov 22, 2018 2:27 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 22, 2018 2:19 am Obviously you and I were never in this game at the same time and I’m sorry this was your experience of the game, and it’s unfortunate to have subbed in under these circumstances. I hope that you’ll give us another chance. I can only speak for myself, but in my time on the Syndicate I’ve felt like this community is one of the most respectful and inclusive of any I’ve come across, online or otherwise.

From a purely philosophical/strategic point of view, every single player’s voice and opinions matter just the same in the balance of the game. Things can’t be solved in full if we’re not all weighing in and hearing each other out, ideally speaking.

And I hope that your emergency has cleared up and all is well.
My grandfather passed away at 91 years old. He had pneumonia, a stroke, and got a little bit better. But then landed back the hospital with double pneumonia and died in the evening of the same day. I got to see him some before he died. I went to his funeral, and I know he is in a better place right now.

I felt bad for you. Generally, I don't like to replace out as I know the chaos that I'll leave behind, and most times whoever subs into my slot can't fill the shoes as well or defend against whatever I previously said. I'm thankful that you didn't get mislynched though.

And I'm very sorry about the death of your grandfather. I hope you and your family are holding up well. My door is wide open if you need someone to talk to.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Nov 22, 2018 2:01 am
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:47 am
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:44 am Or it could be forum bias? Well, whatever it is, congrats on nearly fooling everyone.
Thanks, and I look forward to finding out the reason you suspect me the next game we play together
I don't know if I'm playing here again. Yeah, I could have talked to dunya about it, but I was thinking of quitting a few times before the family emergency. I guess I'm of the opinion that I shouldn't need to talk to someone to get through a game.

Wait Owner, I don't understand. You correctly read DH as being not a civ even if you didn't realize he was 3P and not mafia. You are one of a very few people that did that. Why would you not want to play here anymore? I don't want to lose you.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:59 pm Can't wait to get dunked on D1/N1 in long con's game for this.

I don't think people really hold grudges from game to game much anymore. It's so immature.

poutanko wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:53 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:47 pm Hey DH did you kill Epi? If so why? If not, can someone from the mafia tell us why?

(sorry I still haven't looked at the spoiler night actions)
...he's among those we suspected as even night vig. Bad decision I think (unless he's 2nd Doc or one with Sacrificial spell)...

Oh ok thanks pout.

Hey DH did you kill Epi? If so why? If not, can someone from the mafia tell us why?

(sorry I still haven't looked at the spoiler night actions)

Luna your checks definitely weren't stupid - you were smart enough to check DH, just didn't have good luck getting the correct response.

Thanks nutella and DDL! I must have skimmed right by the spoiler night post.

Oh I see DDL thanks for explaining that.

I want to know what the deal was with the Quin-speed actions. I assume speed was telling the truth, was Quin? Maybe I missed the answer to that somewhere.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:16 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:12 pm With Transfiguration tomorrow would have been a tie, assuming all three voted for DH. Which would force me to end the game with a coinflip. Glad it didn't come to that.
fascinating. had no idea it would come to vote numbers or I'd have used transfiguration lmao. but the amortentia

I actually thought you might use yours on him too and it would be overkill. I didn't realize how critical it was but it was the only think I had that was negative to use on him.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:47 pm maybe it would have just resulted in no death and dragged the game out longer though idk

should've listened to mac

I will regret not listening to Mac for as long as I play mafia.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:38 pm Don't worry, I'm not criticizing how you are playing the game.

I just got annoyed that you implied I was keeping the game running on purpose just to screw you up. I never do that.

Oh sorry, I didn't mean it to sound harsh. For all I knew (or know) DH's win con says he HAS to kill us all in which case it would make perfect sense to keep the game running. And there are other things that would make sense too.

EBWOP: deadies

Sooooo many dead people here. What's up readies?

It's a GREAT game DDL - just remember, we're not in the know so considering every angle. Like I said, I just remembered SVS's magnificent performance as an outted baddie and thought the same thing might be happening here. Don't be frustrated, we're all trying as hard as we can.

I was reminded of a game today where S~V~S convinced us as an outted baddie that she was invulnerable, no way to kill her. She was lying as it turned out but she had us totally convinced. Maybe just maybe that is true here though I'm pretty sure DH is going to pooh pooh this thought. As Mac says though, there must be SOME reason DDL is dragging out what seems to be a foregone conclusion. I just don't think he would do that to us if that were the case. Or, maybe he just wants us to think this way so we'll keep playing even though there is no shot at all. Hard to tell.

yes DH I will vote you for best Indie in the Sockys.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:04 am

not your fault - no one told you not to talk about it. Its all good.

He was incredibly lucky that he picked juliets 1.0 from Ravenclaw. DDL told me not to talk about my time as juliet 1.0 but DH already info dumped so I guess it's ok.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:56 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:33 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:31 pm If what you say is true I'd like this game to just end now thanks.
Not being shitty or mean or anything but I'm mathing it out and the best I'm coming up with is DDL wants me to kill each of you one by one? I'm not exaggerating when I say I'm unstoppable lol
So like there's only one possible way this game ends so why isn't it just over :S

Maybe DH is not telling the full truth and trying to get us to concede. It wouldn't surprise me at all.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:42 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:41 pmSo I owe you.

It won't necessarily be a kill. I rarely have the power to kill.

So I owe you.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:40 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:39 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:36 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:34 pm So it's over I guess?

I agree Mac lets just end it now if what DH says is true.

Why would DDL want to drag it out like that though DH?
Beats me. Thanks for the ressurection stone tho that was nice.
Why did you kill juliets 1.0? She thought you were civ.
I was hunting for the Hallows. I Nifflered Ravenclaw and picked you.

Ah ok.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:36 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:34 pm So it's over I guess?

I agree Mac lets just end it now if what DH says is true.

Why would DDL want to drag it out like that though DH?
Beats me. Thanks for the ressurection stone tho that was nice.

Why did you kill juliets 1.0? She thought you were civ.

So it's over I guess?

I agree Mac lets just end it now if what DH says is true.

Why would DDL want to drag it out like that though DH?

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:50 pm DH is serial killer?

"God help us end this game" will be in my Thanksgiving prayers.

Hugs at Jack.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:46 pm Ugh lame. He just wants to taunt us and inflate his post count.

Yes, but if nobody bothers to read what he says he's just pissing in the wind which is what he will be doing Thanksgiving as far as I'm concerned. And yes LAME is the best way to describe it.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:09 pm I welcome Jack’s obstinance.

Anybody else here not really like Thanksgiving food?

Colin, Colin, Colin, my dear friend, Thanksgiving is about family, food just facilitates the day.

And [mention]poutanko[/mention] I know a 30 player game couldn't possibly scare you as well as you played here. This game didn't have many fewer!

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:35 pm @juliets You still on the road or have you made it OK? How're you feeling?

We are at my parents in Alabama. I'm feeling pretty good, eating too many bad things though, lol!

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:15 pm I request the full 48 hours.

Jack. Seriously? It's not like you are going to talk us out of voting for you. You are dragging us all to Thanksgiving afternoon? Don't you have better things to do than be in here checking the thread on Thanksgiving? Please reconsider making this last until the holiday.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:40 pm FYI I tracked Poutanko and they did nothing.

how odd - I wonder how she died. Is it possible our vig is still alive after all?

Guess you don't need what I sent you [mention]nutella[/mention] but I thought it might be useful.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:34 pm Alright folks, since you are asking:

If all 6 players agree, I will end the day after 24 hours instead of 48 hours.

I am fine with that. I think we've all made our lynch decision.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:28 pm JC gots ta vote.

Sorry I was in the shower but WOWOWOW pout was bad. Nice game [mention]poutanko[/mention] now get yourself over to A World Asunder and sign up!!

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:33 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:27 pm If Juliets is bad it will make me more mad than that time bea thought Marmot's post dunking on her being drunk and lame was made by me and she shat all over me for it despite me apologizing six times even though I had no Idea why she was mad at me and that was the first and only time I've spoken to a game moderator.
This one time, Bea and I were gonna team up to do something and then I never saw her again. Whatever happened to Bea?

She is still around. She joins us in discord every once in a while, she's doing fine.

poutanko wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:57 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:47 pm I really don't think Poutanko is the last Mafia. I find it extremely hard to rationalise the Speedchuck false red peek thing, it's such a dumb Mafia move.

Which leaves... nobody really. Colin if it's obvious. Anybody if it's deep wolf. Juliets, did she scumslip? Did Glorfy lie?
People keep mentioning Glorf truth meta, doesn't that mean she's confirmed town?

Well, the caveat to the truth meta argument is that maybe Glorf for the first time lied about his alignment.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:47 pm I really don't think Poutanko is the last Mafia. I find it extremely hard to rationalise the Speedchuck false red peek thing, it's such a dumb Mafia move.

Which leaves... nobody really. Colin if it's obvious. Anybody if it's deep wolf. Juliets, did she scumslip? Did Glorfy lie?

ok, the false red peak is the biggest thing I can think of in her favor too, I just wanted to see if there is anything else I should consider. And yes, at this point it could be Colin or anyone else as a deep wolf. So I give up for the night.

[mention]poutanko[/mention] I don't think that's true though. I think the issue is there is A LOT of information in the thread and it's hard to remember all of it. I know Mac and DH and nutella have all made points that they have had to repeat because the comment got lost in the shuffle. You have to be willing to do that in a game like this one where there have been a lot of people talking, make your point once, twice, and if someone asks you like I am now by all means make your points again. I don't want to vote you if you're civ so take this opportunity to tell us how we should know you are civ.

poutanko wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:27 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:22 pm
poutanko wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:02 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:54 pm Somehow I didn't see that you were on vacation pout but thanks for reminding us. What are the strongest clues we have that you are civ? I want to make sure I understand your defense of the accusation that you are mafia since it sounds like you won't be here much.
Not like I have many results, I got scum cred for wrong check on Bullz
I still think Colin is more likely town (unlikely to be imperio'd again if that's what happened N1, don't think I'm turned into insane cop because obliviate was used, I've explained this before). Higher possibility of him being Town still.
I was asking for the strongest clues that are out there, in your opinion, that show YOU to be civ. What things should we be pointing to and saying "See, Pout is civ". I'm not looking for who you think is civ, I'm looking for things that make YOU civ. I'm looking for those things because the chances are good we will be talking about whether to vote for you or not tomorrow. We did that today but you weren't here to defend yourself. So another way for me to ask this is "What do you say in your defense to people calling you scum?"
They are wrong. What benefit do I get from claiming I got guilty on Bullz? All I see I was being dragged on due to him flipping town. I attracted attention when it's not necessary and no benefit I got from it.

Ok, thats a start but ignore the false read on Bullz. What have you done to show you are civ besides post your two cop checks?

poutanko wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:02 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:54 pm Somehow I didn't see that you were on vacation pout but thanks for reminding us. What are the strongest clues we have that you are civ? I want to make sure I understand your defense of the accusation that you are mafia since it sounds like you won't be here much.
Not like I have many results, I got scum cred for wrong check on Bullz
I still think Colin is more likely town (unlikely to be imperio'd again if that's what happened N1, don't think I'm turned into insane cop because obliviate was used, I've explained this before). Higher possibility of him being Town still.

I was asking for the strongest clues that are out there, in your opinion, that show YOU to be civ. What things should we be pointing to and saying "See, Pout is civ". I'm not looking for who you think is civ, I'm looking for things that make YOU civ. I'm looking for those things because the chances are good we will be talking about whether to vote for you or not tomorrow. We did that today but you weren't here to defend yourself. So another way for me to ask this is "What do you say in your defense to people calling you scum?"

oops I should have typed the alert [mention]poutanko[/mention], ^^ see above.

Somehow I didn't see that you were on vacation pout but thanks for reminding us. What are the strongest clues we have that you are civ? I want to make sure I understand your defense of the accusation that you are mafia since it sounds like you won't be here much.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:53 pm I pointed out the absurdity of the notion that a Mafia would just infodump a red peek on a civ and then made a case based on her night two action being a cop check of Epi as opposed to INH who was her actual suspect and known Mafia. I thought my case was sound and so did others. I was wrong. I have been wrong a lot this game.

Yes I thought the case was sound and when I added the fact that poutanko had not been here through any of the suspicion that evolved today I felt like I should change my vote. I thought the pout case was riskier than the luna case.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:44 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:42 pm Guys chill it's colin or pout get off each other's backs
"Guys relax its Colin or Pout which is why I voted for Luna"

DH, I love you man but please stop poking. She's just trying to make a point that now that we know its not Luna it has to be one of pout or Colin. You and Mac are both town.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:35 pm I’m not crying but I am perplexed.

Perplexed how?

So sorry Luna, as I said before you were outstanding. RIP and see you in A World Asunder!

Luna if you are bad you played and outstanding game, and if you are good you played an outstanding game.

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