The Syndicate

You're a 100 in my book Dom.

Long Con wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I frankly thought that he intended some degree of possible outing of my role considering that is a mechanism that outs me to entire teams as it is -- both baddie teams already knew who I was...

Imagine if you had chosen to work WITH the baddies at this point... maybe if you had left Bass and Dom alone, they would have both been, like, "This guy's cool!" and who KNOWS? I like to turn baddie when I'm Indy, but I was glad for the opportunity to jump ship this time.

In addition, as Llama hinted, there will be very shortly implemented and explained a new site mechanism the administration and moderation team has designed to combat the issue of non-participation.

Nice. I think the non-participation issue is at least as bad for games as the infodumping issue.

Juliets makes note in her little mafia book

gotcha dom - thanks!

Dom wrote:

juliets wrote:

Dom wrote:Of the people in the end game, the only person who was not outed/didn't out themselves was DH-- when excluding inactives because they don't matter at that point.

That's a problem.

Honestly, this is the second game on this site that has been absolutely DESTROYED because of info dumping and role outing. There's good in info dumping, but there's also, "hey i'm not bad and it rhymes with "prom".

I never outted myself.

Juliets, like LC, I apologize, I was not in my right mind when posting that and didn't even consult a player's list.

No problem Dom.

I've been trying to figure out how you "out" someone as opposed to accuse them. If you "out" them does that basically mean you info dumped about them? Because building a case on them to be someone in particular obviously isn't outting - it's building a case.

Dom wrote:Of the people in the end game, the only person who was not outed/didn't out themselves was DH-- when excluding inactives because they don't matter at that point.

That's a problem.

Honestly, this is the second game on this site that has been absolutely DESTROYED because of info dumping and role outing. There's good in info dumping, but there's also, "hey i'm not bad and it rhymes with "prom".

I never outted myself.

Yes thank you Epi for being a great host.

I was also limited that day by a potion from SVS saying I must use words only from night 2. So the names I could underline were limited to anyone I had mentioned that night. Timmer I think caught the night 2 quotes.

haha timmer, well I'm glad you didn't say anything because its not like I could say "the hatter made me do it" - at least i didn't think I could say that.

Yeah the hatter told me to name 3 people and underline their name in the thread and that the four of us would be going to a party. I underlined the names but nobody noticed and nothing ever happened.

You did a great job DH, I didn't suspect you once until the Boom lynch.

Oh my gosh, the poll!

So doesn't this mean Boom was FoB? It is not me who is lying either. Mongoose, see you in another game. BIH Voldemort.

ghost, LC is crazy and he may not leave his vote on you. Glad to see you suspect the same person others of us suspect. Do you know anything that would help us (civs)? I'm not sure what questions to ask you.

No, I have voted to lynch all the sorcerers and suits we have gotten so far. I'll drop this though until and if you get serious about voting me.

Good point LC. Don't know why I didn't think of that.

zeek wrote:I have no idea. The inactives can't be Sorcerers because we know Voldemort failed to timmer and Aleister Crowley killed Russ.

If Mongoose is Sorceror, maybe juliets? Or the game ends because Boom was bad?

If Mongoose flips civ, maybe bea and Elo.

It is not me. I'm not sure why you would think that it was. Check my voting record (and yes, i know teammates could throw each other under the bus but I could never do that). Also, if boomslang was FoB he said outright I was civ. If DH is FoB he obviously doesn't think I'm bad based on his recent process of elimination on who's bad. What keeps the last sorcerer from being you zeek, assuming Mongoose is bad?

I am voting Mongoose today. I'll change if circumstances call for it.

DharmaHelper wrote:This game was disgusting and I feel terrible for having participated in what was supposed to be a showcase of champions, but turned into a game of "Guess who I am wink wink nudge nudge giant fucking neon sign"

I don't see the case on Mongoose but if it will end my suffering through another 48 hours of this horrid shit, I'll go ahead and vote for her now.

why vote for her if you really don't think she is bad? Vote for who you think is bad - that's what a champion would do.

I'm also listening Ghost - and yaya no death which i agree is great news!

ok, i get it.

S~V~S I think your voice is important because you are a civ voicing a position that is different from some other civs. There could be other people out there that believe the same way you do. Most importantly though, it is best if we have differing opinions aired out in the thread so we can all make the best decision that we can. So please don't pull out of the discussion now.

I'm gonna join timmer and Elo on who is dead.

DharmaHelper wrote:I really did think he was bad, and obviously I still do. I did not play anybody. My record this game clearly indicates my civvieness.

DH, is it your belief then that Boomslang was a seemer and since they knew the FoB was dead he adopted that character or are you saying something else?

thank you epi!

I don't have a clue which of these would correspond to our civs.

Epi, what is the cutoff time for the poll? It's not on there.

Why the batman option MP?

I feel sick that I voted for boomslang. I let DH completely play me. I'm fine lynching either of them MP. RIP Boomslang, what a terrible mistake I made.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Now the only one of those assumptions I'm even ready to doubt at this point is #1, Boomslang is Face of Boe. I recognize any of them could be false, but for now I have no reason to believe that any of the others are false. I think most others are in agreement. If Boomslang isn't FoB, what he has done would be a brilliant baddie move. But let's consider... if he's NOT Face of Boe, that technically leaves the following as baddie candidates:

DH, Mongoose, Daisy, juliets, LC

I do not think Daisy is bad. I also doubt LC is bad. That leaves:

DH, Mongoose, juliets

You forgot to add boomslang's name to this list since in this situation you are assuming boomslang is not face of boe. You even say right above "if boomslang isn't FoB, what he has done would be a brilliant baddie move".

I could vote for either of these candidates today but DH was very persuasive so Boomslang it is.

Mongoose who do you plan to vote today and why?

OK, thanks for the quick reply.

DH why are you so sure? In my situation I know he is right about me and it seems he would have to be the role he hints to know that about me.

I'll look again at Boomslang and Mongoose. Mongoose just hasn't really been "in" the game. Most of her posts are jokey or reaction oriented or just adding a comment that doesn't add anything to our search. Boomslang I'm just not sure of at all. It seems like he's been real quiet. I'll take a look at them both and consider what evidence people bring on both of them.

Oh, and I tend to believe the Suits are gone given the logic they didn't kill last night, tyler did. Interesting that he inherited the kill, if that's what happened.

S~V~S wrote:Did anyone get results from the Fight? Did anyone besides Ninju get a Hatter result? Or maybe only the Hatter got one lol?

lol, this turned out to be true!

I would have rather gotten one of the baddies but I'll take the Hatter. Hopefully no more hatter madness in the thread though I'm not sure what blooper's crack about still playing means. RIP blooper it was good to play with you again. And DH you made me laugh!

About vouching, the reason I vouched for bea and elochin is that elo i think it was said she knew who bea was as soon as she got her role pm. On the basis of that I determined that they were the doctor and the companion (also there is a secret role and it made sense to me it would be the companion). If elo or bea is now saying, after hearing several of us went through the same deduction process, that we do not know who they are then i withdraw my vouch.

This just gets more and more confusing as the talk goes on. I get that SVS's target was switched and then zeek was the recipient of something which changed him but not for the worse and I think SVS is saying that was meant for bea (but I could be wrong about that last part). Somehow this makes zeek seem guilty of being a Sorcerer but timmer is adamant that zeek is civ. I'm personally going to go ahead and vote blooper and if I am clearer about why this reception of the potion makes zeek bad I might reconsider. Else I'll let it sift out over the next day and see how I feel about zeek then.

blooper I hate to say this but I have a hunch you are bad more than anything else. You seem to post enough but just enough. Your posts are very well constructed/articulated (if that word applies to writing) but it doesn't seem like you are relaxed. And I got to your name by process of elimination though you are not the only one I think is bad (iirc there are two baddies left). I know that doesn't give you anything to defend against and for that I'm sorry.

To others who have asked, I did not receive any messages from the host about the hat or anything else we've done in the night polls. I have received one message from the hatter (or someone pretending to be the hatter though I doubt that) and then my one curse. In case Boe wants to check me I have not had bts with anyone this entire game.

It seems like there was something else that I was supposed to address that someone was asking but I can't remember it now.

a bunch of linki

I'm voting blooper.

I am also going to wait until SVS does her research and makes her vote. If her choice fits with someone I think might be bad then I might follow her vote. Otherwise, I'm in for a blooper vote. This all assumes nothing changes drastically.

Just fyi my hatter message also made it clear it was from the hatter by quoting an appropriate piece of Alice in Wonderland.

Timmer the reason I vouch for bea and elochin is exactly the reason you explained in the thread. The only way I could see them knowing since they got their roles was if they were the roles you mentioned.

Daisy is their anything specific about blooper you could comment on?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

juliets wrote:Long Con, couldn't the message to you be from Rogue who stole Snape's power? And it looks like SVS isn't going to be back except to vote so won't you please share with us what you know? I'm assuming it will help us narrow people down.

If the message is from Rogue, how could it help narrow anyone down?

I don't know. I don't know what the message says. It's entirely possible the message doesn't help us at all in which case it doesn't matter if LC shares it with us.

Long Con, couldn't the message to you be from Rogue who stole Snape's power? And it looks like SVS isn't going to be back except to vote so won't you please share with us what you know? I'm assuming it will help us narrow people down.

Spacedaisy wrote:

timmer wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:I trust boom and LC.

Sorry if you've touched on this previously, I'll try to find it, but why do you trust Boom?

Because he clearly said he knows I'm civ. I know he is telling the truth, there is no baddie way to know I am civ for certain. Only civ. And I therefore trust he is telling the truth about LC as well.

@juliets because of the way you came after me the other day. I've already explained that. And up to that time I had the same feeling about you as timmer, so yeah...

@all, what are others feeling about Juliets? Am I missing something about her I shouldn't be overlooking?

One thing I think you're missing is my voting record. I have voted civs like i think everyone has but i voted second for DF, once for Bass, once for Dom, and once for Snowy, breaking a tie between he and DH. So I have voted both baddie teams. And as someone said earlier, it is not at all likely I would throw a teammate under the bus in any game that I play. I'll have to go back and look at how i stated my suspicion (which I have now dropped) about you but it's not like me to "come after" someone. I'm more likely to say "sorry I think this" than aggressively come after someone. I will look at that and let you know. Regardless though it sounds like your main reason for thinking I am suspicious is I found you suspicious - and that isn't even true any longer.

You don't get civvie vibes from me? What does that mean? Something I said, something I did?

BTW, re Daisy's suspicion of me, won't you please give me something to defend? Any questions you have about my behavior would be welcome.

At the moment I trust SVS, bea and Elo at the highest level. Then LC, timmer, zeek and DH even though he may be the hatter as Daisy mentioned (I think it was Daisy). Daisy has some of the same thoughts i do (except about me) and I know I'm a civ. I don't believe she would have tried to quit if she were bad. I understand it may have been a trick but she seemed so sincere. So that leaves Mongoose, niju, boomslang, and the inactives. I will focus on them today and probably vote one of them unless something else comes to light during the day today.

Long Con wrote:It was a toss-up between fedora and cowboy hat, but I went with Cowboy because usually when you wear a cowboy hat, you are rockin' it.

And if you are a woman wearing a cowboy hat you are double rockin' it. I'm also voting cowboy hat.

Can anyone explain this hat thing in tonight's poll? It must be from a game I didn't play.

Holy moley!!! We made the right decision! RIP Made, you are always fun. See you in the next game.

linki MP: I think it's likely you're right

S~V~S wrote:Does this mean I am benched ?

You're lucky you weren't ejected from the game!