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by juliets
Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:35 pm
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Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]

Dom wrote:I miss Illy :(
bea wrote:me too. *sigh*
What happened to illy?
by juliets
Sun Mar 20, 2016 3:35 pm
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Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]

Yes, that was cruel Epi!! I was so afraid of getting poisoned.
by juliets
Sun Mar 20, 2016 11:36 am
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Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]

I just want to add I agree about Dom. Amazing game for a head baddie. I would have suspected others for that role before suspecting Dom.
by juliets
Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:58 pm
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Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]

DharmaHelper wrote:All riddles are my original design by the way. I even spent 2 hours on the GIF
I'm totally impressed.
by juliets
Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:57 pm
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Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]

DharmaHelper wrote:
juliets wrote:Oh my God. That would have been worse than having to make knock knock jokes. I don't even know what a hexagiggity thingy is!
The second time I sent you the riddle I sent Matt. I only sent it to you because I needed to make sure the people with my riddles stayed alive, and I was determined not to let you get lynched
Awwww thats so nice. <3

Actually, now is a good time for thanking everyone for being so supportive during my ordeal. Things are stable here which is about as good as we could have hoped. Still need some answers to some important questions though so it looks like the hospital stay will continue. The end of this game really helped me get my mind off things that weren't pleasant.
by juliets
Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:48 pm
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Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]

Oh my God. That would have been worse than having to make knock knock jokes. I don't even know what a hexagiggity thingy is!
by juliets
Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:42 pm
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Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]

DharmaHelper wrote:
juliets wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:I was so nervous I was gonna get crowed before endgame. I almost intentionally got myself lynched since I could win dead or alive.
I know, I thought about the same thing but I thought Mr. Freeze was still alive and would turn into a serial killer if I died.
I tried to send you a riddle twice and got blocked both times. :(
I wondered why I didn't get anything.
by juliets
Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:37 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]

Epignosis wrote:
juliets wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:I was so nervous I was gonna get crowed before endgame. I almost intentionally got myself lynched since I could win dead or alive.
I know, I thought about the same thing but I thought Mr. Freeze was still alive and would turn into a serial killer if I died.
I have to say this:

juliets silenced two people in a row who got killed, and though she was killing people! It was awesome. That's why she didn't silence anyone for a while.
That totally freaked me out. I thought someone had cursed me to kill people with my silencing power.
by juliets
Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:36 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]

I didn't use my powers every night because I didn't want someone accused or accusing silenced. I tended to go for people who weren't in the midst of things except when I silenced DH and he turned into a person accused. It's why I went to bat for him saying I thought he was silenced.
by juliets
Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:30 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 174197

Re: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]

DharmaHelper wrote:I was so nervous I was gonna get crowed before endgame. I almost intentionally got myself lynched since I could win dead or alive.
I know, I thought about the same thing but I thought Mr. Freeze was still alive and would turn into a serial killer if I died.
by juliets
Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:28 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 174197

Re: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]

I'll never trust Matt again
by juliets
Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:24 pm
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Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 174197

Re: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]

Bullz I'm so sorry you were wrong and couldnt win. Who was the damned scarecrow anyway? I was Renee Montoya.
by juliets
Sat Mar 19, 2016 9:18 pm
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Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 11]

I see Lorab is here so I think your wish wil be granted Bullz.
by juliets
Sat Mar 19, 2016 9:09 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 174197

Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 11]

Yes, I just did. We're all tied up.
by juliets
Sat Mar 19, 2016 9:05 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 174197

Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 11]

Bullzeye wrote:Was that not obvious? I feel completely sure Dom is Scarecrow. If I'm wrong the embarrassment will kill me. But I really do think he's Scarecrow.
Well, when I asked before if you were 100% sure Lorab was not scarecrow I felt like you were walking back on that a little bit. But you're willing to put it forth again so I'm going to believe you. My vote will just tie it up though. By the way, the only reason I was doubting it was Dom that was really a ballsy move if he's scarecrow and he said he was scarecrowed last night.
by juliets
Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:58 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 11]

Bullzeye wrote:You shouldn't vote LoRab. I'm 100% sure she's not Scarecrow. We can lynch her tomorrow if people think she's Falcone.
Ok. You are determined on this arent you. If you're 100% sure I'll vote Dom.
by juliets
Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:53 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 174197

Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 11]

I'm here. Unfortunately for you Bullz I'm considering voting Lorab. This is an extremely difficult decision.
by juliets
Sat Mar 19, 2016 6:20 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 174197

Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 11]

oh jesus you guys I do not need this. Bullz you said you are 100% sure the scarecrow is not Lorab? Or was that someone else? Anything more you can talk about regarding that claim?
by juliets
Sat Mar 19, 2016 3:26 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 174197

Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 11]

Typhoony wrote:
juliets wrote:Typhoony, a question about your Lorab case. You said that she now waffles on Dom since he got scarecrowed - or says he did - last night. Doesn't it make sense for her to waffle on him given the circumstances (him saying he's been scarecrowed)? I don't understand why that is a point not in her favor. What am I missing?
Scarecrow does not want to lynch the people that are scarecrowed.
Lorab suspected dom when he was not scarecrowed.
Now Dom is scarecrowed and she waffles.
To me, that makes sense from a scarecrow perspective. I feel like you're looking at it from a different one.
OH! You're right I wasn't looking at it from that perspective. Thats a pretty interesting observation and isn't in Lorab's favor.
by juliets
Sat Mar 19, 2016 2:20 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 174197

Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 11]

Sorry for the double post but it occurred to me Typh may not be around. Bullz i know you said it was a good point so maybe you can answer my question.
by juliets
Sat Mar 19, 2016 2:18 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 174197

Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 11]

Typhoony, a question about your Lorab case. You said that she now waffles on Dom since he got scarecrowed - or says he did - last night. Doesn't it make sense for her to waffle on him given the circumstances (him saying he's been scarecrowed)? I don't understand why that is a point not in her favor. What am I missing?
by juliets
Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:01 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 11]

Golden wrote:Listening to Paul Simon's Graceland as I write.

It's juliets fault. That signature...
lol, it may have been made in 1986 but it is hypnotizing to me
by juliets
Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:38 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 174197

Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 11]

Oh thanks Dom - I didn't even notice it.
by juliets
Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:17 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 11]

Bullz - Night 8
DH
Dom - No
Enrique - Night 9
Golden - Night 1
juliets - no
LoRab - no
Mac - Night 4 (?)
Matt - Night 5
MP - Night 7 (?)
SVS - no
Typhoony - no
Dom - Night 10

MP re: your question about 2,3,6 etc. I think the missing ones might be dead people or even possibly the non-posters.
by juliets
Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:13 pm
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Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 174197

Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 11]

It just occurred to me we should probably add who the person was told they needed to die to get rid of the curse.

linki - i'll add Dom
by juliets
Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:07 pm
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Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 174197

Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 11]

Here it is MP. I think DH is a "no" but I wasn't sure so I left it the way it was. Looks like your night is a question mark - maybe you could verify that for us.


Bullz - Night 8
DH
Dom - No
Enrique - Night 9
Golden - Night 1
juliets - no
LoRab - no
Mac - Night 4 (?)
Matt - Night 5
MP - Night 7 (?)
SVS - no
Typhoony - no
by juliets
Fri Mar 18, 2016 9:50 pm
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Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 11]

MP we have a list of who and what night, the problem is you have to scan through the thread to find it. I can't even remember who posted the most updated one. I'll scan for it while i have a minute and bring it forward if i find it.
by juliets
Fri Mar 18, 2016 9:42 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 174197

Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 11]

I have arrived! I just read through the thread to see what I missed and it looks like not much. For some reason i didn't realize the lynch was tomorrow night - i thought it was tonight - glad it's not.

I wish i had some good conspiracy theories to put out there for discussion SVS. Matt is the master of theories, maybe he'll have one. I also still don't know who to suspect for Scarecrow. All that work I did re-reading the thread and figuring out who would have targeted who was worthless because as DH reminded me the Scarecrow picks by role. It's interesting to think about what roles he would have gone after first. I don't think that would help us find the scarecrow though.

So I am flat out of ideas. If someone else thinks of something I'll be happy to participate or maybe i will, like SVS, think of something in my dreams. I will be in and out tomorrow, spending all visiting hours at the hospital so if you ask me something just don't expect a quick answer. I'll also be around some tonight.
by juliets
Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:03 pm
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Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Night 10]

Ok, it's time for me to pack up the computer. I will try to get online tomorrow evening before the lynch closes but it all depends on what i find when I get there. So, this may be my last chance to talk to you before you vote. I have tried to impress on everyone that it does not make sense for me to be the scarecrow and I am putting my mafia integrity on the line when I tell you that is not my role. If it were, you would be able to say from here on out "yeah yeah, you told us those lies before in Arkham" and Typhoony would never let me forget it in IRC. So believe me when I tell you it is not me. And believe me when I tell you it is not in your best interest to vote for me.

Yay, no death.
by juliets
Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:19 pm
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Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Night 10]

Lorab, in principle I would like to see those non-players gone but if we put off scarecrow for them we let the scarecrow limit even more people that can win or cause more people to vote for people they don't really believe are bad. If we get the Scarecrow and then hold off on Falcone we allow more civs (or possibly inmates) die. I can't see how we can do it without causing one of those situations. I hate that though. Have you got an idea that would work?
by juliets
Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:05 pm
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Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Night 10]

I would do it Golden if I was going to be here tomorrow. And I'm not sure what the next day will bring (nor do I know I'll still be alive tomorrow). I hate to hear that you think so many minds have been made up because I'm not in that boat at all. Hopefully I will be able to do more iso's to help me with some decisions.
by juliets
Thu Mar 17, 2016 4:40 pm
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Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Night 10]

Ok, I finished skimming the Day 0/Day 1 posts and think that Dom might would have targeted Wilgy (this is a guess given the last things he said before the lynch closed) and i believe SVS would have targeted DH and as she said, I think he would have targeted her. Matt it seems pretty sure would have targeted zebra. I didn't see anyone else that is alive that I thought might have targeted Golden by virtue of disagreements in the thread.

On the other hand, people may have targeted someone they had no ties to at all which means my re-reading and bringing these things out is good for nothing. It was something I had to try though and I would try to do anything else anyone can think of to get us to the right answer.
by juliets
Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:02 pm
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Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Night 10]

Typhoony wrote:Lol. That's kinda funny:p

Linki: jules what are you basing those assumptions on? Like, what makes you think person x would target person y?
I'm basing it on what I see in the thread. There was a long confrontational disagreement between enrique and golden and an intense disagreement between Matt and zebra and then a disagreement between Dom and MP. There are probably others who are still alive who have disagreements during that time and since I'm not yet at the end of the Day for Day 0 much less end of Day 1. I'm uncertain how far I'm going to be able to get today but I'll try my best. To me, this is an important question - who would pick Golden first.
by juliets
Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:39 pm
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Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Night 10]

Bullzeye wrote:
Typhoony wrote:Good point. Are the people still scarecrowed certain their target is alive?
My target is Scarecrow. So yeah, probably.
Scarecrow targeted you to target him/her? I do not understand that at all. Not that I don't believe you, I do, I just can't figure out why they would do that.

I have to quit reading now and work on some other things. I'm still on day 0. From what I have read though it seems like Matt would have targeted zebra first if he was scarecrow and Dom maybe MP. I haven't read day 1 yet though and there may be more in there. Still no other suspect but Enrique who might have targeted Golden but I'm not giving up on that.
by juliets
Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:21 pm
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Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Night 10]

When I think of who is the most likely person to have targeted Golden first i can't help but think about Enrique. I know the counter argument to this is Enrique sounds so genuine in his desire to get the scarecrow and he's the one who brought the scarecrow to the front of the conversation (iirc) that it's hard to believe it might be him. But who else would have targeted Golden first? And whoever the scarecrow is he/she is playing a masterful game and could easily sound genuine without being genuine. I think the people who were targeted after Golden hold a little less insight than that first pick. Having said that though, I'm going to go back and read all that led up to that night where Golden was targeted and see if there are any other hints i may have forgotten.
by juliets
Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:30 am
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Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Night 10]

I need to find the list of who got targeted in what order and then I will answer your question.
by juliets
Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:18 am
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Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Night 10]

Unfortunately my trip has been delayed until tomorrow due to my husbands illness (it just never quits) so as long as I'm here I can post, though I will necessarily be in and out.

As I have said before I am not the scarecrow. I don't understand why we aren't looking at whether Typhoony would target me and SVS sooner or later (I think later) or SVS target me and Typhoony sooner or later (I think later). And I think we've forgotten all about the people who say they've been targeted but could be lying, subbing themselves in for a player who was targeted and died. I think I will took at that later if I have time. And I think people aren't thinking enough how I would have never picked Golden first (or even second) as a target. As I said before, I would have picked people I didn't know very well and not used it every night if I had been able. Those of you who know me know that sounds more like me than targeting Golden. I know some of this is WIFOM but it is what it is. I don't know who the scarecrow is or i would dig in on that person.

Here's what I don't want to have happen: I flip and immediately people say "she should have defended more but she had those irl circumstances". I guarantee you, and this would be a perfect thing to hold against me in future games if I'm lying, I am not the scarecrow and I'm not Falcone. I am a civ. You will be disappointed if you lynch me. SVS, I'm willing to do a sig bet with you that I'm not the scarecrow, or anything else that anyone can think of that I can do to show you who I'm not.
by juliets
Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:27 pm
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Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 10]

After listening to SVS I am slowly backing away from DH being the Scarecrow. Sounds like he probably would have targeted her day 1 or 2 if it was him. So, I'm going for the baddie and voting Bubbles. I still have a few doubts (like I still can't explain those night votes) but there's enough there that I can easily see her as bad.
by juliets
Wed Mar 16, 2016 6:13 pm
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Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 10]

Here are my guesses:

Bass_the_Clever - ?
Bubbles - bad
Bullzeye - town
DharmaHelper - inmate
Dom - town
ekeknat - inmate
Enrique - town
Equivocate - ?
Golden - town
juliets - town
Lorab - town
Matt - inmate
MovingPictures07 - town
S~V~S - town
Typhoony - inmate

I didn't count to see how many of what I've got - like I know I'm missing a baddie - I just went through and went GTH. I also didn't distinguish Wayne from town. If I had to guess for scarecrow - and thats what I would be doing, guessing, I would guess DH. It's not me. And while I'm there SVS I thought my iso's were cases. I came to conclusion on them but maybe you and I just define case differently. I guess an iso I'm looking at from a neutral point and seeing what the evidence tells me and a case may be more you start with the conclusion and then use the evidence as back up. Oh well, it doesn't really matter, just caught my eye.

Anyway I am not the scarecrow. I think many of you have another name in the slot that is mine - a town slot. I understand if you feel you need to vote me as there is no way I can think of except a blatant role hint to convince you I'm not scarecrow but I dislike role hints so I'm not going to do that. Oh, and one of you knows me so well, I would absolutely ask if I had to use the power if I had that role. Can't remember which of you said that but I laughed it was so on point.
by juliets
Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:00 am
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Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 10]

It's true I would not have targeted Typh or SVS until late in the game but I also wouldn't have targeted Golden first. I would have targeted people I didn't know very well in the beginning. I am not the scarecrow but I can't think of any good way to prove it to you. I'm also not a good candidate for a lynch.

Also thank you Typhoony, it's not but what are you going to do except accept it and move on. And Golden thank you too
by juliets
Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:17 pm
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Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 10]

oops left out that I'm off to bed.
by juliets
Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:16 pm
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Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 10]

Yeah I think Typhoony got left out. I'm pretty sure i remember he said he had not been scarecrowed. I am not the scarecrow but I had that same thought Dom did that maybe it was DH but I don't have a smidgen of evidence for that feeling.
by juliets
Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:43 pm
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 10]

S~V~S, have you had the opportunity to look at the lorab iso I did? I remembered that you read lorab pretty well and wondered what your take was on her this game. I know you've probably gone to bed so maybe you could give me an answer tomorrow.
by juliets
Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:18 pm
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 10]

Thanks Dom, I don't know why I keep missing these Typhoony posts. I'm distracted and trying to do too much at the same time.

This is as good of a place as any to let the thread know I will be out of the thread driving to Alabama on Thursday. We have a family emergency and that will come first when I get there over the game. However, I expect I will have enough time to keep up with the thread and post, especially as it gets past the weekend. We'll be staying at least a week but again, I should be able to post just not as available as normal.
by juliets
Tue Mar 15, 2016 7:09 pm
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Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Views: 174197

Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 10]

I have no clue. Who do you think it is?
by juliets
Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:37 pm
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 10]

Bullz - Night 8
DH
Dom - No
Enrique - Night 9
Golden - Night 1
juliets - no
LoRab - no
Matt - Night ?
MP
SVS
Typhoony
by juliets
Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:05 pm
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Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 10]

Typhoony wrote:juliets have you ever been Scarecrowed?
No I have not Typhoony.
by juliets
Tue Mar 15, 2016 4:50 pm
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Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 10]

Dom wrote:Juliets, I appreciate the ISO. I remember only having one negative thought on LoRab and it was something about lack of attention to detail. Her oversight was on DFaraday, but it was in regards to Bubbles... not sure how I feel about that.
Yes Dom, I think the below posts represent what you are talking about. See the last two posts in this pyramid -
Spoiler: show
LoRab wrote:
DFaraday wrote:
LoRab wrote:
Matt wrote:
MacDougall wrote:If you are still going on about the riddler thing, he didn't lie about that Matt. His explanation of the Riddler matches my experience, not yours.
Well, I can't very well argue with that then. Maybe a fake Riddler targeted me. :meany:

If most are agreeing with Turnip's version of events, then I don't really suss Typh any more. Most agree Mac is who he says he is. I've actually come around myself on MP being who he says he is.

@Dom - Ummm no I didn't stop trying to find baddies. I don't know where that came from?

Lorab - Do you think Bubbles is a good lynch? Or DF? Your questions towards him lead me to believe you suss him somehow, and I'm wondering if you believe they are both mafia or just one. Also, I think you arguing with him over his comment on Bubbles still being around is...kinda interesting. I understood his point, Bubbles is still around so she can still send in kills, not exactly an inactive the likes of eke, Equiv, and Bass.
I am going back and forth on bubbles. I think she has been very suspish, and I'm frustrated that she hasn't answered questions that I started asking ages ago. I'm uncomfortable with how she suddenly popped up last cycle. But she's also an easy lynch and I fear that we will lynch another civ.

I am starting to suspect df. And he did not say hey she is still around. He said she's been around consistently in each cycle. That is simply inaccurate. I think they both may be bad.
MacDougall wrote:10/10 would lynch Lorab or DharmaHelper.
I wouldn't lynch me. DH I don't know about.
I didn't say consistently. I said generally, which is this case means "more or less", which is the opposite of consistently. And yeah, I thought she was around more than she was, but you're ignoring my point, which is that Bubbles has vaguely maintained a presence in the game up to the present, whereas the other guys dropped off the face of the earth a long time ago. Therefore, it's more plausible that she's a baddie sending in PMs than it is for the inactives.

Misconstruing my words and sidestepping the point behind them is definitely pinging me.
Actually, I was just seeing the situation differently and was confused by what you were saying. Nothing malicious about it. Just a difference of opinion.

I saw it as the fact that she DID fall off the face of the game a long time ago and then suddenly popped up again.

I agree that there are aspects that make her seem bad--to me it's that she disappeared and reappeared. As opposed to your thought that she's been around the whole time. It's a difference in perspective. I see what you're saying now. Thank you for clarifying.
by juliets
Tue Mar 15, 2016 4:00 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
Replies: 8956
Views: 174197

Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 10]

BTW I just remembered that SVS can usually read Lorab pretty well so SVS I'd love to here your take on her.

Ok finishing Lorab:

- Points out that Glor is frustrated because people will not respond to his case yet he does not respond to others.

- Still finds sprit suspicious and votes him.

- Circumstantial evidence that SVS could be bad (from the list cross referenced with sabies night votes).

- Says her lower participation this game stems from travel and a sinus infection and that it is this participation rate that makes this difference between this game and her normal game.

- Expresses confusion about a Glorfindel post and asks him to respond.

- Explains to Glorf that someone thinking he's a good person doesn't mean they think he's civ. Responds to a Bubbles post telling her she doesn't believe she has been following the thread, does believe she has baddie teamates and comments that she still hasnt received response on Dom post.

- Next post:
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Also, @Bubbles: What prompted you to post and vote now, when that hasn't been a thing you've done in the past week, even though you have been paying attention? Why vote in this lynch? Why post now, all of a sudden?
- Would like a Bubbles lynch but could be convinced of a Glor lynch because he's pushing the everyone made up their mind attitude and his use of the newbie card.

- Feels fairly neutral about TH.

- Defends SVS saying she doesn't make up suspicions whether she's good or bad (doesn't indicate which she thinks SVS is.)

- Faraday indicates suspicion of her and Bubbles. Lorab tells him to read her posts and ask her questions.

- Posts all of Bubbles posts to show she has not posted once per phase.

- Goes back and forth on bubbles. been frustrated that she hasn't answered questions and then just popped up. Is afraid she might lynch a civ. Starting to suspect dfaraday because faraday said bubble had posted ever cycle. faraday seems to clear that up somewhat for Lorab.

- low level civ read of Dom - doesn't have that grrr in his voice that he does when he's bad.

- Responds to someone who asks what the case on Bubbles is - lists all the reasons she thinks Bubble is bad.

- Matt moves up her suspicion list because he freaked out when he thought he'd been targeted but if Golden's list is right Matt doesn't have a main civ role.

- Adds to suspicion of Faraday saying he seemed like he was defending sabie without defending sabie.

- Holds off voting bubbles because now she has some doubt and voted DF

- About Bubbles:
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Right. I don't necessarily agree that she would have been around to send the pm's. Possibly, because at times she posted elsewhere, but not on every night (or every other night). That said, I do believe she has a partner, and that is the crux of my suspicion of her.
- About Bubbles:
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Also, her post right after Sabie's lynch:

Bubbles wrote:
good job on sabie everyone, probably wouldve voted her (he?) as well if i'd been in time for the vote. i feel like im barely in this game but ive been trying to keep up with reading.
anyway voting wayne's manor cause it sounds cozy :p



was after 10 days of not having posted in the game. It seems a little to much like a coincidence to suddenly show up after dropping away, in order to make a post about a lynch result...
- To Matt whose latest claim was cop:
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I don't think you were role claiming an important role then--I think that your reactions then don't make a lot of sense if you are a vanilla role that doesn't need to be alive to win the game. I also don't think that he was painting a target on you by saying you might be a role that also doesn't need to be alive to win and is more of a threat to indies than to mafia. I also think that his overall point was that you were civ, not that you were a particular role. My point is not that you were role claiming. My point is that your reaction implies that you are a role that really doesn't want to be killed--and has a lot on the line. I don't see your reaction as being consistent with the role you now claim.

That said, I don't often understand where your thoughts come from (not a criticism, just an observation), so I'm taking that into consideration.
Ok that pretty much catches us up to today.

Votes:
Day 1 - Bubbles; Day 2 - Nero; Day 3 - no one; Day 4 - MP; Day 5 - sprityo; Day 6 - No one; Day 7 - sprityo; Day 8 - Glorf; Day 9 - DF;

One impression I had before starting was that Lorab talked about Bubbles a lot and that was borne out be looking at her posts. Though I didn't detail every post I think it's fair to say most of her posting has been about Bubbles. She does bring a few additional people into her line of suspicion like sprityo, Nero, Glorfindel, and Matt. One thing she did not address in her suspicions of Bubbles which i will ask her right away is why she thinks Bubbles voted Wayne Manor 4 times. Her suspicions of the other people she voted seemed true though that first (I believe) sprityo vote did also strike me as a little bit drive-by.

Looking at her votes is where I got the biggest surprise. When you read her posts you see her voting for other people but still I somehow expected there would be a lot more votes for bubbles than there actually were. I think this shows something she said in the thread which that she was really back and forth with bubbles more than her posting would reflect.

All in all, I didn't see anything that would tell me Lorab was a baddie. We are all different however so I'm curious if others see baddieness in these posts, or if I left something important out that points to her baddieness (I had to leave some things out that i judged to be not important but could have made a mistake there).

Also, Lorab if there is anything you see that you feel unfairly represents you please point that out. It could be i misunderstood something or your position on something.

Ok now I have to go decide who to vote for.
by juliets
Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:51 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Arkham Mafia [ENDGAME]
Replies: 8956
Views: 174197

Re: Arkham Mafia [Day 10]

I decided to take a look at Lorab's posts and see if I could spot anything that rang baddie to me.

Skipping her posts about where to go first her first non location related post is about Bubbles. First Lorab noted Bubbles was a low poster. Also, Bubbles had posted this: hi all! *waves* i'm picking wayne's manor because i'm a goodie and it sounds like a civ option :nicenod:and Lorab said that sounded contrived and trying too hard to sound civ. Then Lorab voted for her (note this was a day 1 vote). Others then explained that Bubbles does that a lot (announces she's civ in her first post) and I don't know if Lorab still considers this post suspicious.

Next post Lorab acknowledged that Bubbles had acted like this before but she still found it suspicious. She said she was trying not to go totally low poster and not make it totally random. She said she was not trying to get someone to follow her vote and she had to vote somewhere.

Makes a post with multiple points but the most important one is she questions Bubbles for saying she hadn't kept up with the posts yet also says Dom is more vocal than ususal.

Finds Matts frustration with knock knock to be genuine. Doesn't think he's correct on everything but doesnt think he's bad.

About Bubbles:
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While my vote day 1 for Bubbles didn't have much behind it, her last post was perplexing enough that I'm actually eying her more. I want to see how and if she answers my question about it when she is next here (doubtful she will, since she's not really keeping up). I realize her posts are often not traditional, but to say that one is not keeping up, but that Dom seems more vocal than usual, I just don't understand. Because, Dom has never been a quiet player. And because it seems like an on topic comment about a player, without actually looking at thread content. Dom had 2 posts within 5 pages before that post--so either she just looked at thread count (which seems like trying to sound like she's paying more attention than she is) or someone suggested that as an on topic idea.
Also says she thinks she will vote for nero this round.

Defends Mac against his padding the post count. Explains its a sultural issue.

Bubbles posts again and Lorab says:
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Care to explain your last post, which I've asked in the thread about several times?

Or are you just coming in, looking at the poll, reading someone's posts who has the most votes (and not the discussion about them), and deciding based on that?

And so you haven't seen me accuse you of making a really odd post that I really don't see how it could have come from an honest place.

Why Nero? Is that what your teammates told you to do?

That said, I'm voting Nero, as well.
zebra says Lorab has been doing the things she axxuses Bubbles of and Lorab explains why that isn't true.

Mentions Bubbles again: I've been waiting since yesterday for an answer from Bubbles. That's all I really want. I still cannot fathom a way that her post about Dom yesterday wasn't made up.

Confirms nero suspicion, mentions sig, talks about Bubbles:
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Sorry I'm not making you feel good. I'm just doing my best at the game. And yes, the possibility of Nero being the Joker, combined with Matt's insistence that he is bad, are my main reasons for suspecting him. I assume that Matt would not be able to say he is the joker if he is. I also think that even if he is not the joker, Matt may have other reason to suspect him. So, I'm going with that. My eyeball of Sig is an eyeball, but not something I'm ready to vote based on. And Bubbles, I really just want to know why, if she isn't following the thread, seems to think that Dom is posting more than usual. And also, why she perceives Dom as a usually quiet player. Those 2 things are off to me.
Posts again about bubbles, re-emphasizing she is more curious about Bubbles post about Dom than suspicious.

Posts she still wants Bubbles to explain the Dom post (posting in case Bubbles is searching thread for her name).

Suspects Typhoony because of his post that he would never make MP post "sig is my #1 suspect" on every post

Posts that just because you hint at your role doesn't mean you are civ - could be a false hint.

Tells Golden his defense of Bubbles is fair enough but says she still thinks the post about Dom makes no sense to her.

Faraday calls her vote bandwagony and she says she voted for who she suspected and others happened to suspect the same person.

Voted for sprityo because his breadcrumbs seemed suspect. Mac called her vote drive by and she said they had differing definitions of drive by. Also was sick and jetlagged during this interaction.

Supports idea of cross referencing people who went to places other than where sabie went. List produces her name as well as others but she denies being bad. Still thinks having the list is a good idea.

Says she could support a sprityo lynch, glorfindel for playing newbie card or Floyd.

Missed the vote (this was the floyd vote).

Supports Matt moving on from his Turnips suspicion.

This is about halfway through. I'm going to stop here so there will not be any more in this post and then I will start a new post.

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