The Syndicate

Well played, all. Almost made it to the end, but to no avail. get friggin 2x votes, how is that fair? Oh well, that's me being a sore loser :P

Don't fear the reeeeaper... MORE COWBELL!

That was a close one, seems like. And this whole "timmer not dying when it's a unanimous lynch" thing is really suspicious. Chaos and confusion, anyone?

Yeah, gonna keep with the Timmer train as well.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Dom wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Dom wrote:I'd like to hear DH's thoughts on who we should lynch. (:

I dunno. Timmer seemed pretty content to falsely label me as a Resident using sloppy logic, and sloppy logic is historically a baddie tactic, but there's the no u aspect of it so I doubt people will follow that.

INH also seems pretty close minded in considering me over everyone else. Is it genuine, or is he scared that I plucked him out in the early game and doesn't want me to go back to putting him under the microscope now that things are starting to slow down again. These are the questions.

I'd also take a look at Boomslang, and stuff.

Explain Boomslang.

Boomslang's not one of *my* suspects, I just meant I'd be willing to look at Boomslang should anyone bring anything substantial about him to the table (Epig for example I think was talking about Boom earlier)

Epig's claim on me was about the list of Herman suspects, which we showed to be incorrect as I had gotten votes before a Herman kill. The provocations towards DH are getting a little much, and the voting group analysis actually turned out somewhat useful. I'd like to think a baddie wouldn't go through all that trouble to guide good civvie decisions, unless we are being masterfully trolled.

timmer wrote:I've been pinged a bit by boomslang since I subbed into the game, but can't put my finger on why.

boats has also been a bit odd, but these are players I'm unfamiliar with, so I've been hesitant to pursue those leads until i get a better feel for them.

I lean more towards INH being a civ at this time. Generally he's more talkative and (forgive me, INH) sort of agitated as a baddie. Cool, more quiet inh tends to be good.

Maybe because I went after you based on the evidence accrued by your predecessor, CBK? I would like to point that I've called a lot of the lynches correctly; yeah, I went on the early bandwagons that got civs, but so did everyone.

I'm going to go with 4. Don't think my initial proposal was right, and I don't have enough clues to piece something more meaningful together.

Epignosis wrote:

Boomslang wrote:Well hold on, there's gotta be a system here, even if it's completely convoluted and avant-garde. It's probably not alphabetical, although that would be an excellent troll. Maybe each number is assigned to each player based on voting order or something?

I agree that there must be a system, but the idea about voting order...no one voted on Day 9.

I was thinking the order we voted today, like a self-referential thing. But that's just spitballing.

Well hold on, there's gotta be a system here, even if it's completely convoluted and avant-garde. It's probably not alphabetical, although that would be an excellent troll. Maybe each number is assigned to each player based on voting order or something?

Whoa... I didn't even get to vote (would have continued to push the Timmer agenda), but looks like we got one anyway. BIH Ziltoid! And sucks for SVS.

None of the other ones seem that appealing, honestly. Portal 4 may be the most neutral; I think the other ones are definitely tied to baddie teams. So I'm voting 4.

Ah, screw it. The "Droops as recruit" argument actually makes a lot of sense. The only person I can trust right now is myself.

Epignosis wrote:Don't forget:

We can now suspect these people of being Herman the Planet Smasher.

AceofSpaces
birdwithteeth11
Boomslang
DisgruntledPorcupine
Dom
Jokreher
juliets

Look at Herman's power: If he receives a single vote, he cannot harm us! Let's make sure all of these people receive at least one vote.

Don't forget: I got a vote on one of the days before Herman killed, eliminating me from the running for Herman.

As for the current poll, I'm intrigued by the wording YOU will be rewarded, as in "the player base as a whole" rather than the one who gets picked. If my reading is correct, I'm tempted to vote for Droops, as we know he's civ.

Portalscope says 2, so onward we go!

Not like it's going to matter, but I still believe in my timmer/CBK choice.

Whew, that was... unexpected. Trice I suspected, RIPIYWG Kate, and I hope we made the right choice with Illyria. Someone on the Ziltoid team obviously thinks I'm onto something or is trying to defend him/herself from accusations, so I'm going to recheck responses to my responses.

Alright, there's a lot of pings going on, but I'll be absent later tonight. I'm going to statement towards the role formerly known as CBK.

Frig, this is too much to read. The voting order analysis seems like an awful lot of work for very little precision; people have been mentioning outside commitments and other factors that influence the order beyond waiting to see what others do. You're confounding variables, as it were, and there's a large amount of error involved.

As for the reveal of Zappa's secrets, I can see where it'd be a good idea to warn him of the risks involved in searching. Revealing other civvies who don't have such risks associated with their actions might be worthy.

And maybe it's personal, but I don't like how Timmer's defense was "look at the other guy" instead of addressing the underlying points.

Just wanted to say: nailed it. Maybe a bit more independent thought next lynch?

I hope I turn out to be right on this; I'm not convinced of Vomps' guilt. INH's remaining suspicions of Droopy could be based in some baddie knowledge, so sending a message vote for further looksies.

Epignosis wrote:

Mr. Droopy Cash wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Guess I'm fucked. See ya everyone.

Lol...you start with 3 votes....I'm pretty sure at least that many people have committed to Vomp already. However, the fact that you jump on this so quickly worries me.

Jump on the fact that I have three plus votes? That's kind of lazy "sleuthing" isn't it?

Anyway, I'll vote for Vomps now. He's done.

Well, before Droops got revealed, I (along with a lot of others) felt that Vomps was his teammate. Nothing has come up that changes that suspicion for me, and if Droops is civ, so is Vomps. I'll be looking elsewhere for now...

triceratopzeuhl wrote: Except that it sounds like an entire baddie team has potential for an NK protect

That's why I thought you meant whole team. May bad, not trying to put words in your mouth.

triceratopzeuhl wrote:

Boomslang wrote:

triceratopzeuhl wrote:Welcome back droopy.

Hard to tell whether surviving an NK is civ or baddie. Not even counting all the role secrets, I see multiple ways that somebody of either persuasion could survive an attempt. Not sure this result helps us label the two attempted targets at all. We don't even know if it's good or bad that they survived. We do know, though, that neither Ziltoid nor Herman killed a civ tonight for sure, so that's positive

And yeah, I don't see myself not voting vomps - barring a bad slip up

There are a lot of secrets, but seems to me most of the survivability powers are civ. Captain Spectacular survives Ziltoid attacks, Omnidimensional Creator can survive any attack, Mike Patton can impersonate Spectacular or the Creator to gain immunity. Moondog "conceals," Exuma "keeps away evil spirits," etc. I think it's significantly less likely that either of the survivors are baddies.

Except that it sounds like an entire baddie team has potential for an NK protect

• Ziltoidian Monk – He prays every night for the safety of Ziltoid and his comrades. If his prayer is successful, any members on his team may live to see another day. Naturally, he prays harder for his own survival than anyone else’s, however. (Secrets)

No offense to Sock, and he probably intended it this way, but that role is a little difficult to pin down... "He prays harder for his OWN survival" and "Any members on his team MAY live to see another day" suggest individual protection to me. I can see where you're interpreting it as everyone, though. Also unlikely that both of the survivors are on same team, from sheer probability.

triceratopzeuhl wrote:Welcome back droopy.

Hard to tell whether surviving an NK is civ or baddie. Not even counting all the role secrets, I see multiple ways that somebody of either persuasion could survive an attempt. Not sure this result helps us label the two attempted targets at all. We don't even know if it's good or bad that they survived. We do know, though, that neither Ziltoid nor Herman killed a civ tonight for sure, so that's positive

And yeah, I don't see myself not voting vomps - barring a bad slip up

There are a lot of secrets, but seems to me most of the survivability powers are civ. Captain Spectacular survives Ziltoid attacks, Omnidimensional Creator can survive any attack, Mike Patton can impersonate Spectacular or the Creator to gain immunity. Moondog "conceals," Exuma "keeps away evil spirits," etc. I think it's significantly less likely that either of the survivors are baddies.

Ah screw it, nothing's changed my mind. Vooting Droop.

Vompatti wrote:

Kate wrote:

Vompatti wrote:I'll stick with voting for rabbit8.

Personal reasons?

This time it's not personal.

Just throwing a wrench into all of this, ain'tcha... That kind of bomb seems to have taken some flak off of Droopy. Someone hypothesized that you're teammates; I think this merits further checking.

Mr. Droopy Cash wrote: Lol...it's not worth saying. Just nice that I'm not the only name floating around. There's this glimmer of hope (false hope that is) out there.

Ok, I was feeling BWT's explanation that this might just be waffling, but if he's going to be resigned about it. might as well finish the job.

I'm not sure why the low poster thing is such a big deal. Directing suspicion and conversation, thereby turning people away from you, seems to be more advantageous to the bads.

Kate wrote:

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:Yeah, he did.

Boomslang wrote:Boomslang agrees that the third person, when done consistently, can be an interesting character trait. However, if Vomp's vote was forced, then Rabbit may be civ, so I'm getting on the bea bandwagon.

Look at you all participatory!

And correct, thank you very much.

Boomslang agrees that the third person, when done consistently, can be an interesting character trait. However, if Vomp's vote was forced, then Rabbit may be civ, so I'm getting on the bea bandwagon.

I feel like LOST is a good reason NOT to go to 8... it wasn't exactly happy fun times on that show. I vote to stay right here.

Vompatti wrote:

Kate wrote:

Leech wrote:You may notice that Sock stated that three separate posts and three on-topic sentences are the criteria to avoid punishment. That could be interpreted to mean that having too much is just as bad as having not enough, which is the kind of trick I could see Sock pulling. Based on that conclusion, I wil now refrain from any more on-topic posts, indirectly meaning that I have to vote this early on, in this very post; so I will now cast the first vote, for myself.

Might I ask why you would vote yourself, particularly so early into the day? I do not want, and will not get into, a discussion about random voting, but how could this ever be construed as a civvie move? You are either 1. Voting a known civvie or 2. Voting a baddie, I assume you will say you are doing the former, thus my quesion, why would you vote for someone you are certain is a civvie (assuming that is your stance)?

There are secrets in many of the role descriptions, so it could be that he knows something we don't know. Most likely he'll gain something by voting for himself (if he survives the lynch). Otherwise it would not seem to make much sense.

This does strike me as very odd, against the self-preservation that this game is theoretically all about. Alternatively, it could be a masterful bit of paranoia induction: he must have a secret power that gets activated by votes, so don't vote for him! Layers upon layers, am I right?

LoRab wrote:Thanks, LT!!

Boomslang wrote:Heading to the Earth portal seemed like an awfully dangerous choice. Getting closer to the last known location of a being who can destroy planets with fists alone? Whoever voted for that seems... less than trustworthy.

Can you show me exactly what in the post following the vote that makes it seem like it was a bad choice? Otherwise, just speculation...like the vote itself. Any reason why you want people to focus on the earth voters?

MovingPictures07 wrote: As the ship subsequently traveled through the portal, a weird vacuum-like sound could be heard by everyone in the ship, but it seemed to have no effect on any of them.

Maybe I'm still just speculating, but I don't like that vacuum sound. It SEEMED to have no effect, but is anything really as it seems in this game? Whatever it was, it sounded inside the ship, as no sound can travel in space itself. Therefore, something had an effect in our safe haven of Captain Spectacular's vessel.

Heading to the Earth portal seemed like an awfully dangerous choice. Getting closer to the last known location of a being who can destroy planets with fists alone? Whoever voted for that seems... less than trustworthy.

Earth is no more, and we must realize this fact, heading as far away from it as possible. To Pluto and beyond!