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Team Opt!

RE: Final Tribal

Seriously, hats off to Scotty for putting this together. A long time ago, a player named Map put together a LMS game based on Battle Royale and Long Con said it would make standard mafia games go the way of the dinosaur. I think this game is proof of that.

Looks like Sorsha's fallen victim to the BTSC trap we mentioned earlier RE: Votes.

I dunno if Ponderosa should be telling each other who they voted for.

Ties decided by audience vote.

UNHIDE ALL THE DANG THREADS ALREADY

In retrospect it is hitting me now that Quin and SVS, two people Golden explicitly told me I could trust, turned on me the moment they had the chance to.


Last time I listen to that goofball.

My only regret is that I didn't get the opportunity to kick up shit in Jury.

Woof, Ponderosa getting heated.

Same team guys. Same team.

Quin gets to play his final immunity idol.

Here are my jury vote guesses:

If it ain't broke.

I think it is a testament to my play that, even having not made merge, I'm still a ghost haunting the final 3.

Consider what Opt vs. Quin did *without* their role advantages. Opt wiped the floor with those challenges. What did Quin or Sorsha do that compares?

Scotty wrote:

juliets wrote:

Ricochet wrote:I don't think the Quin power role complaint is fair, just like the Opt power role complaint is. Quin didn't use idols every tribal council. The others didn't eliminate him when he didn't. Their loss. Opt didn't win every challenge ever. In fact, she lost the very lost one. She was left in the game.

It is what it is.

I agree wholeheartedly. And we don't know what Sorsha's strategy was - it doesn't mean she didn't have one.

I agree. Looking forward to how Sorsha will respond to these questions.

Quin actually didn't use his role to the full advantage either. There were times in the early rubbings that he instead worked to better the tribe. I remember in like day 6-7 he told his BTSC partners not only his Rolex but where the possible idols were- so DF went looking in one location and Golden went looking in another, while Quin stoked the fire. That shows loyalty in his partners and faith that they wouldn't blindside him.

I wouldn't mind a chart of "Found Idols/Used Idols Per Person".

Ricochet wrote:I don't think the Quin power role complaint is fair, just like the Opt power role complaint isn't either. Quin didn't use idols every tribal council. The others didn't eliminate him when he didn't. Their loss. Opt didn't win every challenge ever. In fact, she lost the very lost one. She was left in the game.

It is what it is.

In both Golden's and my case, Quin was able to get out a powerful player and avoid his own elimination through the use of an idol that he had. The difference in the Opt/Quin role power debate is that Opt's power gave her a small competitive edge in some competitions. She still had to bust ass in each competition. Quin's power gave him a vehicle to find and horde immunity until final 4. The two do not compare.

RE: Sorsha I suppose we don't know what her strategy was but from Ponderosa and the thread it looks like she was never "in the loop" on the alliances/big plays that happened. I could be wrong. It just seems like, of the three, she did the least to make it to final 3.

Not a knock on her, I just wouldn't vote for her in the end.

Ricochet wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Maybe it's just my personal preference but I can't see how anyone can not choose Opt to win the game. She played the social game like a pro, adapting to the loss of a strong ally in myself. She rode another strong ally (Golden) and had the sense/balls to cut him loose. And she won the majority of immunity challenges (even ones she had no role advantage in)

She can lose based on butthurt effect. INH and Epig seem way more detached, but don't know about the rest.

I still sort of suspect a bitter jury maj on this one.

Preach it. I dunno why the jury is so bitter, man. If ya got played ya got played. I'm not mad at Quin for doing me like he did. From a game move, it was a good one. Not a great one, and definitely not a game winner, but a good move.

I just think that Quin doesn't deserve a win because he essentially had a skeleton key to the final four. And Sorsha played a good enough game, but really didn't make any move. When your best strategy is no strategy at all, then you shouldn't be sitting at the end.

Maybe it's just my personal preference but I can't see how anyone can not choose Opt to win the game. She played the social game like a pro, adapting to the loss of a strong ally in myself. She rode another strong ally (Golden) and had the sense/balls to cut him loose. And she won the majority of immunity challenges (even ones she had no role advantage in)

I guess technically I have 2 ideas for games now.

Hey, I watch more Big Brother than Survivor, but I care about both equally.

Scotty wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:I dunno about survivor, but in Big Brother the jury gets 1 night to talk out among themselves who might deserve the votes

In Survivor, after each jury member asks a question, they all secretly vote and it's done. Though you'll hear in Ponderosa videos of the people that will not vote in the end

Also lol at INH stealing your Negan schtick

I forgot to add that every juror in BB apart from the last gets to participate in that group discussion. The last juror is usually eliminated the night of the finale, so they only get their questions

Scotty wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:I dunno about survivor, but in Big Brother the jury gets 1 night to talk out among themselves who might deserve the votes

In Survivor, after each jury member asks a question, they all secretly vote and it's done. Though you'll hear in Ponderosa videos of the people that will not vote in the end

Also lol at INH stealing your Negan schtick

I prefer to think of it not as stealing, but as carrying on the legacy.

I dunno how Quin can say with a straight face his power didn't carry him all the way to the end when you look at how many idols he had and how many times his idol saved his bacon. His "biggest move" in getting me out was solely because he had an idol.

I dunno about survivor, but in Big Brother the jury gets 1 night to talk out among themselves who might deserve the votes

If Opt loses to Quin or Sorsha it will have been a robbery.

Ricochet wrote:WHERS DA POST

23 minutes from here.

Scotty wrote:1.5 hours til deadline and I have received only 1 vote.

I vote Sorsha

Opt and Lorab saying "I dont know what to do" when if they just agreed to vote for Quin they'd be at least 50/50 fine.. Come on guys!

Opt giving a speech on loyalty might be even funnier than King Negan

Scotty wrote:

Scotty wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Opt deserves to win, but the other 3 probably think that's the best reason not to take her.

Quin stated in BTSC several times that he'd rather have competitors who showed up to play sitting in the end. I think he wants Opt there next to him

Opt is in a bad spot for that because if she were to jump ship now and vote Quin, she will have alienated a ton of people on the jury

Yeah the "turncoat" ain't usually rewarded in these types of shows.

Opt deserves to win, but the other 3 probably think that's the best reason not to take her.

I think I'd be happy with an Opt/Quin/Sorsha final 3.

If it's Sorsha/Quin/Lorab that's a tough call. I guess I'd give it to Quin, but his role was way too strong.

Good to see Sorsha getting in the mud.

Scotty wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:I think SVS is right in that LoRab is angling to get people against Quin...

Though the better play would be "Hey Eloh, hey Opt, Mamana for life lets all 3 vote for Quin"

But Sorsha is in, not Elo

Oh right, oops. I forgot.

The better play would still be to vote Quin, though I suspect a 2-2.

I think SVS is right in that LoRab is angling to get people against Quin...

Though the better play would be "Hey Eloh, hey Opt, Mamana for life lets all 3 vote for Quin"

I have to agree with the Ponderosians that LoRabs hangup on this poison shctick might sink her game

If Opt and Quin are in the final 3:

would you give the game to the person who won the most individual immunity challenge

or

would you give the game to the person whose role allowed them to find a near infinite supply of immunity idols?

I could solve it easily.

It looks like the puzzles could decide it, not too much of a lead on anybody coming out of the first half.

Opt is by my estimate at 02m25s 2 Keys?

If Sorsha wins immunity they ought to get rid of Quin. But Quin will probably convince them to get rid of Opt.

Lorab 02m40s
Opt 02m15s 1 Key
Quin 01m30s
Sorsha 02m10s 2 Keys

Here's my count on the challenge so far:

Lorab 02m40s
Opt
Quin 01m30s
Sorsha 01m40s

Scotty wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:I would have liked to have played with MP and Epi and LC. Shame they all ended up on the opposite sides of the island as me.

Plus Mp was MIA.

I wouldn't mind playing with you either. As a player.

Samesies.

I would have liked to have played with MP and Epi and LC. Shame they all ended up on the opposite sides of the island as me.

Scotty wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Are we going to be in the studio audience for the finale?

Lol sure. You can be Sia, who unceremoniously walked up on stage for no reason during Kao Rong's season reunion

I'll Sia there.

Are we going to be in the studio audience for the finale?