The Syndicate

I hope the other tribe is having just as much fun.

DharmaHelper wrote:I do want to echo add that while I didn't include anyone else apart from myself in my answer to your question DF, to my knowledge everyone left on Mamana pulled their weight and contributed in one way or another.

Everyone left = Everyone who wasn't voted out, like Wilgy/Boom.

I do want to echo add that while I didn't include anyone else apart from myself in my answer to your question DF, to my knowledge everyone left on Mamana pulled their weight and contributed in one way or another.

DFaraday wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:So you criticize me for picking two people who weren't in my original tribe by picking two people who weren't in yours.

I only picked you two because you two made it clear that you won't vote for anyone in your bloc. But if like SVS says we can work something out, that'd be great.

S~V~S wrote:OK, I am gonna bite the bullet here and do what I have to do for the good of all of us going forward. New peeps are now part of Atamai and Atamai FTW. While the people I would have preferred to lynch from original Atamai are all, I'm going to guess, over at mamama lynching *your* former teammates, for us to be able to pull together and win every challenge from here on in, we need to be cohesive.

I don't want to lose another person after this, any of the *SIX* of us remaining, not just Faraday and I, unless it is 100% necessary. We are going to win every immunity challenge.

I know what I am going to have to do in the end, and you need to do it too, Faraday, you know I am right.

Just an fyi, when we did the stone challenge, Faraday hated the idea of sending in a black stone, so negative, standing for self interest and greed (I would not be surprised if Golden or Eloh did/said something similar), but he did it becasue he understood the stakes.

I just want guarantees from the Newcomers that, going forward, we judge each circumstance on merit and value to the team, and not on where your original PM placed you on an imaginary map. I realize you all pledged to each other, and we did the same. And for the sake of peace you are asking us to break that pledge, and even in some cases with the gall to blame us for not liking it and trying to push back against the new majority. I am willing to do it. But I don't want to be faced with this voting bloc again presented as a given. Am I clear here? We'll cooperate, but we want some quid pro quo going forward.

insertnamehere wrote:I guess it all seems a little contrived how Quin came into the thread, stirred up a whole bunch of shit out of nowhere, and put a massive target on his back.

Quin wasn't really on anybody's radar until after the Reward Challenge, when he barged in like a bull in a china shop.

And there's a Hidden Immunity Idol nobody knows about...

Connecting the dots, I can't help but feel suspicious of how you guys are acting. I'm worried you're going to take out DH, Elo, or Lorab.

You don't think any of our behavior is due to you guys effectively saying we are the only people who should be considered for lynching? Nobody from Mañana has shed any light on how much they contributed back on their side.

I'd feel better if you clarified on the record what "you have to do" and what you "mean".

@Faraday - I contributed to my former tribe In much the same way I contributed here. I served in a leadership role, directing people to the best use of our time/resources during challenges. Actually, my performance in this past challenge was my strongest yet. During the first challenge I took on the puzzle but got caught up in some confusion about the rules/parameters, so I passed it on to Golden. During the challenge with the stones, I initially advocated picking all yellow, since I figured it would be at best a good way to get food and at worst a show of goodwill towards you guys.

In both of those two instances, my strength wasn't necessarily in how I personally approached the challenges, But in my willingness to adapt under pressure and listen to my tribe. In the battleship challenge, I took the reigns in a big way and busted my ass in order to get us across the finish line. So when I hear that I haven't contributed, or that I'm being selfish, or that I don't have my tribes interest at heart, those things directly contradict with what I know to be true.

insertnamehere wrote:I guess it all seems a little contrived how Quin came into the thread, stirred up a whole bunch of shit out of nowhere, and put a massive target on his back.

Quin wasn't really on anybody's radar until after the Reward Challenge, when he barged in like a bull in a china shop.

And there's a Hidden Immunity Idol nobody knows about...

Connecting the dots, I can't help but feel suspicious of how you guys are acting. I'm worried you're going to take out DH, Elo, or Lorab.

That wouldn't be very smart, even if they could make it a 3-3 split. Preaching all this tribal unity and trying to pull one over on the tribe in the process would destroy the trust SVS, DFaraday, and Quin allegedly wished to build.

insertnamehere wrote:

S~V~S wrote:I think I am having a problem getting past the Lucille and Negan imagery, tbh. I started to write "lol" but not so sure it is a lol. It's hard to trust a grinning Negan saying, "Maybe you're right".

Is this something you were doing in your other thread, too?

It's something he's been doing literally nonstop.

I vacillate hourly on whether it's charming, annoying, or unsettling.

S~V~S wrote:I think I am having a problem getting past the Lucille and Negan imagery, tbh. I started to write "lol" but not so sure it is a lol. It's hard to trust a grinning Negan saying, "Maybe you're right".

Is this something you were doing in your other thread, too?

Yes.

I feel like if we just rip the bandaid off and get this ugly business behind us, we can move forward as a tribe.

So you criticize me for picking two people who weren't in my original tribe by picking two people who weren't in yours.

DFaraday wrote:

LoRab wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

LoRab wrote:Yes, exactly. So saying that no one looked up considered any strategies is not an accurate statement.

I kind of meant it the other way, as a defense of Quin, but yeah, I see your point

And see, this is what I meant by hostility; not "hostile" per se, but both of our lynches were no brainers, a complete zero posts no show and a volunteer. We had no discussion or strife or accusations of *any* kind either time. I will think about it and do what is right for the tribe so going forward we can better come together.

I knew this was coming eventually, but I don't have to like it.

No brainers would be nice. Neither of ours were like that, as we described.

But in looking in the difference in responses to DH's post between DF and Quin, I see most of the hostility in the conversation for this tribal coming from Quin.

As I have said, I'm keeping my word to the people I have said I will protect.

Did literally everybody in Manamana swear an oath not to vote for each other? Because it seems statistically improbable that the four who apparently can't vote each other ever all got sent to our camp.

I don't really care whether Quin or DH contributed more to the challenges. This phase has already revealed that in DH's mind, there is his chosen few, and there are the rest of us. By immediately framing the lynch as a choice between myself and Quin, he's made clear that the good of the group is not an option. I do not accept that paradigm.

You and Quin seem to think that your being on my list has nothing to do with the betterment of the tribe. If you can suggest to me how a vote for someone else would make the tribe better, I will listen. But Quin hasn't done that, instead inventing a reason to attack me.

Faraday, in your view, who makes this tribe the weakest?

S~V~S wrote:

LoRab wrote:Yes, exactly. So saying that no one looked up considered any strategies is not an accurate statement.

I kind of meant it the other way, as a defense of Quin, but yeah, I see your point

And see, this is what I meant by hostility; not "hostile" per se, but both of our lynches were no brainers, a complete zero posts no show and a volunteer. We had no discussion or strife or accusations of *any* kind either time. I will think about it and do what is right for the tribe so going forward we can better come together.

I knew this was coming eventually, but I don't have to like it.

I understand where you're coming from. But Quin has made some very unconvincing arguments that I think need to be handled. You want less hostility, and I agree. I asked DF ad Quin to state their cases, and Quin's response was pretty hostile.

S~V~S wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Quin wrote:I'll answer you seriously. I think you're undervaluing my own contributions to the tribe. I wasn't here for the start of the challenge because I couldn't be. Otherwise, even while nobody else is here, I'm putting strategies forward and I'm putting my foot first to take care of the tribe.

I made no comments on your contributions, I wanted to let you have the floor before I did that. But you can't argue that what I said about SVS, INH, and myself taking charge of the challenge wasn't true.

It's possible you're right, and you do put strategies forward, and you do have the tribes best interest at heart. I'm a newcomer here, so I'd need to see that for myself or let you make your case.

While I have your attention, something's been nagging at me about the first challenge. From Scotty's write up, it sounded like DFaraday cost you guys the challenge. Scotty wrote that he "fell asleep" and that "the gap [left after the puzzle] was too much to make up."

So my question is, was that a 1-to-1 translation of what went down? And if so, why did you not, as a tribe, vote for DFaraday?

Because sig no showed. I have already said this. And all of us had trouble understanding the directions that day. And as I said, sig helped even less.

This is the first time we have had to do this type of thing.

I spent my lying in bed with my phone Mafia time reading GOC. So I may not post again for a few hours. When I saw that four of you were coming here I knew you were gonna pick us off first. It's what I would have done.

I know you said why you voted for sig, I just wanted a second viewpoint.

Also I want to clarify, I suggested we try for strategies that weren't easily googled, I didn't make any demands or anything similar.

Sorry, I did "oversell" the first guess thing. It was my second guess according to my reading back just now.

Quin wrote:What do you think you have, DH? I pointed the tribe to strategies. Said strategies were the same as many of the ones you were implementing on your own. And this isn't even the context of the beef we're having.

You said I oversold what I contributed to the challenge. You also said "Half" of what I contributed, you directed the thread to do first.

What I did:
- Placed the items
- Came up with the grid
- Helped to direct people to their assigned grids
- Through practicing the above strategy, hit the oar on my first guess.
- Provided a colored grid so people like Eloh could follow along easier

My questions are, which you haven't I don't think answered adequately, How have I oversold what I did, and what parts of what I did do you expect to take credit for based on "directing the thread" via the remarks "I looked up a battleship strategy that gives a couple of tips"

LoRab wrote:

Quin wrote:All you've done is reiterate the same debunked contributions. You did nothing today that anybody else either didn't already or couldn't do. You've also proved that you're completely untrustworthy as a tribemate. Strength of integrity matters just as much as challenge ability.

Sometimes, it's the reverse.

In fact, DH has demonstrated integrity in keeping his word to people to whom he has given his word. Are you suggesting that he go back on his word and break promises? Is taking back a promise to protect another individual how you define trustworthiness?

Quin wrote:Your dishonesty and hierarchy are making this tribe look pretty weak right now.

I disaagree, Quin. I think our openness and loyalty is what makes this tribe strong.

I would agree here, LoRab. Thank you.

Quin wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Quin wrote:I might be inclined to vote for you. Why weren't you helping around camp today? I think you were being sneaky, and were looking for an idol. I think that enough shows that even while you and the rest of the tribe were sick you were more interested in your own self-preservation than helping at camp.

I think after putting together the winning strategy to give us food and water via reward, busting ass during the challenge, being the first person to find an item, I earned a nice stroll through camp, don't you?

I may not have gone fishing, or gone to get water, but my performance in the challenge provided us with both. And now we have eggs.

Is there anyone else you've got an eye on?

Got a problem with this too. Half the stuff you presented as the 'winning strategy' was stuff I'd already directed the tribe to in my goodnight post. You alone didn't win us the reward, in fact I think you screwed up more than anybody else by putting two of our biggest blocks together. That could have gone horribly wrong.

Finding the first item was a matter of probability. It doesn't earn you anything in my book.

Are you suggesting that because you found eggs you were valuable to the tribe? Unless you knew that by going there you'd find a chicken, you didn't. You got lucky. Or am I wrong?

Quin wrote:These time zone differences are worse than I thought

Going to bed. I looked up a battleship strategy that gives a couple of tips that might help with placement and also searching. Might be a good idea for people to have a look before making any decisions.

I really should go to bed as now I'm actually in the position Quin was during the challenge it's like 3 AM

Quin wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:EBWOP: As a matter of fact, if you can explain to me what you did during today's challenge that someone else "couldn't have or didn't already", I'm more than happy to listen.

I wasn't here for the bulk of it, so I can't. I'm just not going to oversell what I have done like you are.

You quite literally said I aped your strategy when all you did was say the words "there are battleship strategies"

Quin wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Quin wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:EBWOP: As a matter of fact, if you can explain to me what you did during today's challenge that someone else "couldn't have or didn't already", I'm more than happy to listen.

I wasn't here for the bulk of it, so I can't. I'm just not going to oversell what I have done like you are.

You keep saying I'm overselling what I did, but you can't point out how.

I did like three times.

Could you reiterate, because I'm confused if your argument is that I didn't do anything anyone "couldn't or didn't already...

Nobody did anything in that challenge that someone else "couldn't" hypothetically do.

I was (to my recollection) the first person to hit on an item, which is something actually nobody "already did".

I never said I was the only reason we did so well, But I definitively played a major part. So, I'm just wondering what part of what I did was insufficient?

Quin wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:EBWOP: As a matter of fact, if you can explain to me what you did during today's challenge that someone else "couldn't have or didn't already", I'm more than happy to listen.

I wasn't here for the bulk of it, so I can't. I'm just not going to oversell what I have done like you are.

You keep saying I'm overselling what I did, but you can't point out how.

EBWOP: As a matter of fact, if you can explain to me what you did during today's challenge that someone else "couldn't have or didn't already", I'm more than happy to listen.

Quin wrote:All you've done is reiterate the same debunked contributions. You did nothing today that anybody else either didn't already or couldn't do. You've also proved that you're completely untrustworthy as a tribemate. Strength of integrity matters just as much as challenge ability.

Another question: Why can't we bring you up if we're discussing votes? You aren't leading this tribe.

Debunked how? I don't think you can argue my contributions were useless because "other people could have done that". Sure, other people could have, but I did. I posted a color coded map that helped at least one person understand the challenge better. I suggested quadrants and helped organize our tribe into those quadrants. I think anyone who looks back at my performance in that challenge and says I did the tribe harm is lying .

Why can I not be trusted? The opposite is true. My word was given to these 3 people that I would protect and watch over them, and I intend to do that and hope they intend to do the same. Why? because they earned my trust. Something you haven't had the time to do yet.

I haven't said you "Can't" bring me up, only that if your argument is to vote out the people who make the tribe weakest, you "shouldn't" because I "don't".

Before I go to bed, just a few more points:

Quin, if your main argument is "I'm only concerned with votes that strengthen the tribe" then I have to say I don't believe you. I give you and Faraday the opportunity to make your case, and instead of doing that, you twist and contort and turn to try and say that I should be the one to be voted out? You say I disregarded your contributions, but rather than make a case for yourself to stay, you argue that my own contributions were irrelevant?

If your vote was really about making the tribe stronger, you wouldn't have brought me up. I made very significant contributions to this task, which won us food and cured our sickness. Aside from my personal contributions, I showed that I could work well as a team with SVS, DF, and yourself when I worked to catch people up on the strategy, keep people informed of the picks, etc. That's pretty fuckin' strong.

What you're proposing sounds like Survivor's version of a No U, which doesn't seem like a strong argument, nor does it seem like it strengthens the tribe.

DFaraday wrote:DH, are you saying that from here on out you will only vote for me, Quin, or SVS? It sounds to me like we're not a unified new tribe after all, it's still us original Atamais alongside Manamanamanas, we're just all in the same location. I would like for us all to work together, but if we're to be second class citizens in our tribe, I don't see how that's going to work.

As for the challenge, yes I took a long time. Scotty's instructions made me think the only effect was game-based time. I've never played a Mafia game (not that this is really Mafia) where the amount of time it takes you to do something in real life directly translates to time in the game. Now I know better. If you want to lynch me for misunderstanding a game mechanic on Day 1 so be it.

Also, I doubt that earlier epidemic is the only sickness that will come up this game. If you guys want to get rid of your doctor already you're just handicapping yourselves.

To be clear, I'm saying that in this instance, right now, my voting options are limited by virtue of the swap and my commitment to/loyalty among the Mamana. I don't think for a second it's much different over there, where your former tribe mates have majority. What I'm saying is, between my options, I know I can count on (and I gave my word that they can count on me) my former Mamana tribes mates. I don't know you or SVS or Quin in a game context, and while I would love to unify this tribe and sort that out and continue to win challenges, and vote in the future based on this tribe, Right now my vote is based on what I've already explained.

linki - If you want to be that way about it, sure. You (speaking to Quin here) DF and SVS are in the minority on this side of the island, just like Opt, Golden, and Chuck are in the minority on Mamana. If you expect me to believe that if it were 4-3 in your favor you wouldn't be reluctant to vote for one of your own numbers, by all means, make that case.

Quin wrote:4 and 5 still mean nothing. You are by no means a stronger or more reliable player than the rest of us because of what you did in those two instances. Both of them were pure probability.

@linki - I did not say that. You chose to ignore my personal contributions. This is my response.

Agree to disagree on 4. I think my pick which landed an item and was based (whether you believe me or not) on a strategy I came up with largely on my own, gave us an edge. Especially knowing now that the margin of victory was 8 picks. I might concede 5, if only because I had no way of knowing we'd find chicken there and I genuinely wouldn't have been bothered to find an Idol. As LoRab explained, our stance on Idols over on the other side of the island was more communal.

Linki - Actually, SVS posted a link to an article that I skimmed and got the diagonal picks idea from (she also suggested diagonal picks in the thread),

Also, I'm not "rejecting your efforts" Quin. We're on the same team here, I'm asking you what those efforts were.

Quin wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Quin wrote:I might be inclined to vote for you. Why weren't you helping around camp today? I think you were being sneaky, and were looking for an idol. I think that enough shows that even while you and the rest of the tribe were sick you were more interested in your own self-preservation than helping at camp.

I think after putting together the winning strategy to give us food and water via reward, busting ass during the challenge, being the first person to find an item, I earned a nice stroll through camp, don't you?

I may not have gone fishing, or gone to get water, but my performance in the challenge provided us with both. And now we have eggs.

Is there anyone else you've got an eye on?

Got a problem with this too. Half the stuff you presented as the 'winning strategy' was stuff I'd already directed the tribe to in my goodnight post. You alone didn't win us the reward, in fact I think you screwed up more than anybody else by putting two of our biggest blocks together. That could have gone horribly wrong.

Finding the first item was a matter of probability. It doesn't earn you anything in my book.

Are you suggesting that because you found eggs you were valuable to the tribe? Unless you knew that by going there you'd find a chicken, you didn't. You got lucky. Or am I wrong?

I'll take this point by point.

1 - I don't recall you volunteering any of the information I suggested, let alone half.
2 - I never said I was the sole reason we won reward. Quite the opposite, I praised INH and SVS for helping to kick things off. Faraday also made some pretty clutch hits.
3 - It could of, but it didn't. I think "screwed up" is a little bit of a stretch. Had we lost you may have had a point.
4 = Finding any of the items is a matter of probability, but finding an item as early as we did (I think, my first guess?) provided invaluable momentum.
5 - I'm suggesting that we have eggs as a result of my vote. Whether or not I intended to find a chicken, I did.

Linki - Sorry, I must be confused. Are you claiming credit for the strategy the thread developed based on your recommendation that we use google?

Well now, hold on, let's be fair about this. Is this the post you mentioned?

Quin wrote:These time zone differences are worse than I thought

Going to bed. I looked up a battleship strategy that gives a couple of tips that might help with placement and also searching. Might be a good idea for people to have a look before making any decisions.

Because, there's nothing here but the words "a battleship strategy". Nothing about quadrants. Nothing about picking diagonally (which I suggested based on the article *SVS* posted and her own desire/experience to use the diagonal strategy.) Nothing about taking turns, or dialing in on items, or using a grid with a color code.

Ask anyone from Manama, I'm the first person to give out fair dues, but taking credit for stuff you didn't do, that's a no-no.

I think you're confused Quin. I'm not singling you out, and I've definitely not settled on my vote yet, but you have to look at things from my perspective, if you wouldn't mind:

1. INH, Lorab, and Eloh are all 3 former tribemates of mine that I gave my word on Mamana's beach I would look out for as long as they looked out for me. I don't intend to break my word, and I wouldn't ask that of anyone on this beach.

2. SVS Was instrumental in getting the ball rolling for this challenge, and I haven't initially considered her for a vote

3. I don't know your dynamic, or your records in terms of participation, contribution, etc. That's why I've asked.

Quin wrote:I might be inclined to vote for you. Why weren't you helping around camp today? I think you were being sneaky, and were looking for an idol. I think that enough shows that even while you and the rest of the tribe were sick you were more interested in your own self-preservation than helping at camp.

I think after putting together the winning strategy to give us food and water via reward, busting ass during the challenge, being the first person to find an item, I earned a nice stroll through camp, don't you?

I may not have gone fishing, or gone to get water, but my performance in the challenge provided us with both. And now we have eggs.

Is there anyone else you've got an eye on?

LoRab wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote: While I have your attention, something's been nagging at me about the first challenge. From Scotty's write up, it sounded like DFaraday cost you guys the challenge. Scotty wrote that he "fell asleep" and that "the gap [left after the puzzle] was too much to make up."

So my question is, was that a 1-to-1 translation of what went down? And if so, why did you not, as a tribe, vote for DFaraday?

I was about to ask this, after I found the Lucille Bluth chicken dance gif (because insomnia brain), and you beat me to it. What was the significance of this in the write up?

Originally I thought it must have meant DF signed up to solve the puzzle and let the clock run dry without solving it, But from what I'm able to gather now, it seems like he just took an exorbitantly long amount of time solving it.

Alright then Quin, where's your head at for this vote, then? Who do you think we should axe, and why?

Quin wrote:I'll answer you seriously. I think you're undervaluing my own contributions to the tribe. I wasn't here for the start of the challenge because I couldn't be. Otherwise, even while nobody else is here, I'm putting strategies forward and I'm putting my foot first to take care of the tribe.

I made no comments on your contributions, I wanted to let you have the floor before I did that. But you can't argue that what I said about SVS, INH, and myself taking charge of the challenge wasn't true.

It's possible you're right, and you do put strategies forward, and you do have the tribes best interest at heart. I'm a newcomer here, so I'd need to see that for myself or let you make your case.

While I have your attention, something's been nagging at me about the first challenge. From Scotty's write up, it sounded like DFaraday cost you guys the challenge. Scotty wrote that he "fell asleep" and that "the gap [left after the puzzle] was too much to make up."

So my question is, was that a 1-to-1 translation of what went down? And if so, why did you not, as a tribe, vote for DFaraday?

Forgive me for what?

Quin wrote:Tell you what though, you've got spunk to come out swinging early on like that.

Is that a bat joke?

Oh, and obviously the chicken's name is Lucille.

It's that time again. My Mamana brothers and sisters are familiar with what comes next, but you Atamai's are in for a treat. I like to mull over who it is we should vote for in the thread. I will offer my opinion first:

Firstly, I won't be voting for nor advocating a DH vote. I think I provided valuable aid in the challenge today. Not only did i hide our items, but I provided the quadrant strategy, found the oar, and provided a helpful visual aid to keep us on track. This is the sort of hustle, leadership, and competitive edge you can get used to with me over on this side of the island.

Now, I also won't be voting for SVS. Next to me and INH she was right there ready to go and kill this challenge. Not only that, but I gotta respect the Atamai leadership. I'm reaching across the aisle here, extending an olive branch.

Now that being said, I definitely won't be voting for LoRab or Eloh either. I made a vow to everyone on the Mamana beach that I would watch their backs, and I intend to honor that. Loyalty is the most important thing. I won't even entertain the possibility of maybe even considering thinking about voting for a former Mamana.

Which leaves us with Quin and DFaraday. Now, I dunno how you did things before we got here, but I'm fair enough to let you both get your two cents in. Honestly, I'm genuinely sad that despite crushing this challenge, our first as a new and badass tribe, we have to say goodbye to someone. But we do, so we will. The only question is, is it Quin or is it DFaraday.

Both of 'em have merit, and both have drawbacks. I think the best way to begin is to have our Atamai folks recount the merits of both our friends.

If any of you fuckers eat my chicken you're getting the bat.

No surprise what poll option I'll pick.

Watching night shows right now I'll brb

Elohcin wrote:Wow... Great job tribe. Sorry I was only available for a bit if it. I don't know what is wrong with my laptop. Im on my phone now.

Yay for INH winning immunity!

So DH is the doctor, huh. DH. Mind sharing with us newbies your abilities?

I'm putting in my BTSC now for DH and INH.

DF is the doctor. I'd still like BTSC with you though :P

Man, reading the whole game after its all said and done is going to be wild.

Quin wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Quin wrote:I'd be full, and I have 14 energy so that would be a good choice for me.

If we won I'd be at 14 Energy 9 Thirst 10 Hunger

Are you sick, or is it just LoRab?

I'm sick but I've been able to combat it so far with enough food/water from the tribe.

Quin wrote:I'd be full, and I have 14 energy so that would be a good choice for me.

If we won I'd be at 14 Energy 9 Thirst 10 Hunger

S~V~S wrote:New people to Atamai, DH, LoRab, INH & Eloh~ did you have any hostile lynches/councils over there? We had one no show, sig, and MP basically volunteered to go. So we have not seen any strife.

I wouldn't say hostile tribals, no. In fact for the most part we were on the same page. Boomslang got the axe because he was trying to start conflicts. Wilgy got the axe because he was acting in a way that felt odd and suspicious and anti-tribe.

26 total guesses, 12 guesses were correct, which means we only missed 14 times. I have a hard time seeing them come close, honestly.

Quin wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Also, putting the shovel under the flag might trip them up to, if they come in on the bottom half of the flag or the top half of the shovel, it could look like an oar or they could miss trying to make the shovel into a 2x2

I was worried about this one just because if they do take the 1x3 route, they'll know for the sure that you've put two side by side.

Risk/reward. We'll see.

That pot play was pretty clutch INH.

And yeah I'm hoping we win the challenge and all this BS food poisoning can go away.

Also, putting the shovel under the flag might trip them up to, if they come in on the bottom half of the flag or the top half of the shovel, it could look like an oar or they could miss trying to make the shovel into a 2x2

My hope is that orienting the hatchet horizontally trips them up.