The Syndicate

Dom wrote:

DFaraday wrote:

Dom wrote:your NO U post and then literal no u on me didn't help you.

Good intuition, I guess. Although the NO U post was a Day 0 joke which I probably would have also done as a civ.

and your literal no u on me?

Dom wrote:your NO U post and then literal no u on me didn't help you.

Dom wrote:

DFaraday wrote:Dom why

u ok?

DFaraday wrote: Dom, why were you so convinced I was bad for the whole game?

Epignosis wrote:And happy birthday DFaraday!

A win must be a pleasant way to top things off, eh, old man?

a2thezebra wrote:I don't get it DF, with 5-4 you were dead anyway.

Or were you?

S~V~S wrote:I specifically did NOT suspect Wilgy. Faraday, way to misinterpret the data.

G-Man wrote:Technicolor vote
Analysis can provide
A new perspective

DAY 1

Spoiler: show

1. MATT (sig)
2. MATT (sprityo)
3. QUIN (Long Con)
4. THELLAMA73 (S~V~S)
5. THELLAMA73 (Sloonei)<---CIVVIE
6. DOM (DFaraday)
7. SIG (Matt) <---CIVVIE
8. MATT (Nijuukyugou)
9. THELLAMA73 (Bubbles)
10. DRWILGY (Elohcin)
11. BUBBLES (Scotty)<---CIVVIE
12. MATT (Quin)<---CIVVIE
13. THELLAMA73 (DrWilgy)
14. MATT (thellama73)<---BADDIE
15. DFARADY (Sorsha)
16. THELLAMA73 (G-Man)
17. THELLAMA73 (Dr. Wilgette)<---CIVVIE

MISSING VOTES: Dom, Soneji

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4. THELLAMA73 (S~V~S)
5. THELLAMA73 (Sloonei)<---CIVVIE
9. THELLAMA73 (Bubbles)
13. THELLAMA73 (DrWilgy)
16. THELLAMA73 (G-Man)
17. THELLAMA73 (Dr. Wilgette)<---CIVVIE

1. MATT (sig)
2. MATT (sprityo)
8. MATT (Nijuukyugou)
12. MATT (Quin)<---CIVVIE
14. MATT (thellama73)<---BADDIE

3. QUIN (Long Con)

6. DOM (DFaraday)

7. SIG (Matt) <---CIVVIE

10. DRWILGY (Elohcin)

11. BUBBLES (Scotty)<---CIVVIE

15. DFARADY (Sorsha)


MISSING VOTES:
Dom
Soneji<---CIVVIE

Day 1 tells us that SVS, Wilgy, G-Man and Bubbles are unlikely to be bad, unless they were bussing a teammate. Sorsha's vote stands out as coming at a pivotal time but not going for either major candidate (and for being on me ). LC's vote doesn't give any indication of his alignment. Dom missed, so it's hard to glean anything from that. Ninja voted for Matt in the middle of the pack, so it could be a save attempt.

DAY 2

Spoiler: show

1. MATT (sig)
2. DRWILGETTE (Bubbles)
3. MATT (Elohcin)
4. MATT (Scotty)<---CIVVIE
5. MATT (Quin)<---CIVVIE
6. SIG (Matt)<---CIVVIE
7. MATT (Dom)
8. ELOHCIN (DrWilgy)
9. DRWILGY (S~V~S)
10. MATT (Sorsha)
11. ELOHCIN (DFaraday)
12. MATT (Nijuukyugou)
13. ELOHCIN (DrWilgette)<---CIVVIE
14. MATT (Soneji)<---CIVVIE
15. MATT (G-Man)

MISSING VOTES: sprityo
SILENCED: Long Con

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1. MATT (sig)
3. MATT (Elohcin)
4. MATT (Scotty)<---CIVVIE
5. MATT (Quin)<---CIVVIE
7. MATT (Dom)
10. MATT (Sorsha)
12. MATT (Nijuukyugou)
14. MATT (Soneji)<---CIVVIE
15. MATT (G-Man)

8. ELOHCIN (DrWilgy)
11. ELOHCIN (DFaraday)
13. ELOHCIN (DrWilgette)<---CIVVIE

2. DRWILGETTE (Bubbles)

6. SIG (Matt)<---CIVVIE

9. DRWILGY (S~V~S)

MISSING VOTES: sprityo
SILENCED: Long Con

Ninja, Dom, G-Man, and Eloh voted on the Matt train, but Ninja and G-Man's votes came so late as to feel like a better place to hide. Bubbles, Wilgy, and SVS all voted in different places, so it's hard to make anything out of them just from the voting pattern. SVS was pretty consistent in suspecting Wilgy though. Sprit missed, so that's a null read.

DAY 3

Spoiler: show

1. LONG CON (Quin)<---CIVVIE
2. QUIN (Long Con)
3. ELOHCIN (sprityo)
4. QUIN (soneji)<---CIVVIE
5. SONEJI (sig)
6. DRWILGY (Elohcin)
7. QUIN (Nijuukyugou)
8. DRWILGY (Dom)
9. QUIN (DFaraday)
10. ELOHCIN (DrWilgy)
11. G-MAN (Sorsha)
12. QUIN (G-Man)

MISSING VOTES: Bubbles, DrWilgette
SILENCED: S~V~S

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2. QUIN (Long Con)
4. QUIN (soneji)<---CIVVIE
7. QUIN (Nijuukyugou)
9. QUIN (DFaraday)
12. QUIN (G-Man)

3. ELOHCIN (sprityo)
10. ELOHCIN (DrWilgy)

6. DRWILGY (Elohcin)
8. DRWILGY (Dom)

1. LONG CON (Quin)<---CIVVIE

5. SONEJI (sig)

11. G-MAN (Sorsha)

MISSING VOTES:
Bubbles
DrWilgette<---CIVVIE

SILENCED:
S~V~S

G-Man again with the late vote, after the lynch was a runaway. Eloh going back to her Wilgy suspicion is a good look for her, and likewise for Wilgy voting Eloh. I don't agree with either one's suspicion, but consistent reads typically make me feel better about people. And Sorsha, like before, votes late and irrelevantly.

DAY 4

Spoiler: show

1. DRWILGY (Bubbles)
2. NIJUUKYUGOU (Long Con)
3. SONEJI (S~V~S)
4. SONEJI (DrWilgy)
5. NIJUUKYUGOU (G-Man)
6. DFARADAY (Dom)
7. SONEJI (sig)
8. NIJUUKYUGOU (Elohcin)
9. SONEJI (Nijuukyugou)
10. NIJUUKYUGOU (Soneji)<---CIVVIE
11. SONEJI (Sorsha)
12. DOM (DFaraday)

MISSING VOTES: sprityo

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3. SONEJI (S~V~S)
4. SONEJI (DrWilgy)
7. SONEJI (sig)
9. SONEJI (Nijuukyugou)
11. SONEJI (Sorsha)

2. NIJUUKYUGOU (Long Con)
5. NIJUUKYUGOU (G-Man)
8. NIJUUKYUGOU (Elohcin)
10. NIJUUKYUGOU (Soneji)<---CIVVIE

1. DRWILGY (Bubbles)

6. DFARADAY (Dom)

12. DOM (DFaraday)

MISSING VOTES:
sprityo

Day 4 Sorsha casts the deciding vote on Soneji, who turns out to be civ. This seems worse to me since she left her G-Man suspicion to vote Soneji. LC, Eloh, and G-Man look better just by virtue of not voting a civ. Sprit missing again continues to give no read.

Just going off the votes, I'd say the last three baddies are among Sorsha, Ninja, G-Man, LC, and Sprit, in that order of suspicion.

Long Con wrote:Ok, so how do we analyze G-Man's technicolour voting lists?

S~V~S wrote:I have to agree with Sorsha; removing Niju would appear to be somehow shenanigan related, but a quick double check of the roles does not see this as a baddie related power.

The power steatrer is a civ, and is also dead *shrug*

Elohcin wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Elohcin wrote:It was 2/3 when I voted, and I'm sorry, I didn't think Soneji was bad. I am not going to vote for someone I don;t think is bad.

I was just thinking that I would expect a baddie to have avoided the lynch train on civ Soneji, and then I come in and see this post from you, Eloh. Who do you think are the baddies involved in the Soneji lynch, if any?

If I have to rank the Soneji voters, it would be Niju, Sorsha, Wilgy, SVS, then sig.

DrWilgy wrote:

DFaraday wrote:

Dom wrote:

DFaraday wrote:

Dom wrote:

DFaraday wrote:

G-Man wrote:Oh I am going
To so ISO all over
Your ass tomorrow

What baddie reason could I possibly have for voting Dom? If I were Ninja's teammate (and I believe she does have teammates), I'd have voted Soneji from the off.

Why not just vote Nju?

I know, right? So obvious. So obvious...

All I'm saying is I was doing everything in my power to get Ninja lynched.

Give this man a well deserved bath token!

Dom wrote:That's rather convenient.

Dom wrote:

DFaraday wrote:

Dom wrote:

DFaraday wrote:

G-Man wrote:Oh I am going
To so ISO all over
Your ass tomorrow

What baddie reason could I possibly have for voting Dom? If I were Ninja's teammate (and I believe she does have teammates), I'd have voted Soneji from the off.

Why not just vote Nju?

I know, right? So obvious. So obvious...

Dom wrote:

DFaraday wrote:

G-Man wrote:Oh I am going
To so ISO all over
Your ass tomorrow

What baddie reason could I possibly have for voting Dom? If I were Ninja's teammate (and I believe she does have teammates), I'd have voted Soneji from the off.

Why not just vote Nju?

G-Man wrote:Oh I am going
To so ISO all over
Your ass tomorrow

G-Man wrote:What the bleeping hell
If you think Niju is bad
Why pull vote away?

G-Man wrote:

DFaraday wrote:

G-Man wrote:

DFaraday wrote:Yeah, I would prefer a Ninja vote to Soneji, but I wouldn't particularly mind Soneji going. After looking over her I feel more confident that Ninja is bad, but I don't want to tie the vote.

Meh, I'll just go for it. *Votes Ninja*

You changing your vote
Concerns me because I still
Don't trust you this game

I didn't change my vote, this was the only time I'e voted.

Sorry my mistake
I'm still not crazy about
Your voting record

G-Man wrote:

DFaraday wrote:Yeah, I would prefer a Ninja vote to Soneji, but I wouldn't particularly mind Soneji going. After looking over her I feel more confident that Ninja is bad, but I don't want to tie the vote.

Meh, I'll just go for it. *Votes Ninja*

You changing your vote
Concerns me because I still
Don't trust you this game

Elohcin wrote:Wow. Awesome result. I am also glad I was not around at the end. I may have voted to save llama b/c I am easily tricked by him.

Elohcin wrote:

S~V~S wrote:It's night. And lots of things kill the game a little.

Eloh appears to feel that the level of non-srs combined with the tone being taken by some folks makes her not want to respond. I don't think you have to be a mind reader to get what she's putting out. Telling people you feel like you are wasting your time when you spent half the game time so far basically role playing, essentially wasting HER time (from the Eloh perspective). I don;t know Eloh all that immensely well, and she & I have always had a somewhat problematic relationship as other than being American women, we have little in common.

But *I* can see what is putting her off.

Read her posts and respond to talk *to* her, not *at* her.

SVS, you are understanding my thoughts very well this game.

And I also agree with this statement.

S~V~S wrote:You aren't much acting like you,Wilgy. Not sure what that means, maybe nothing; you're one of those people who likes to mix it up. I think of you as kind of sweet; you are a little harder this game.

I feel like I wish we could just start this game over and do it differently with more focus and seriousness. We can't do that obviously, but I can start over with a fresh perspective. Unfortunately, I just found out that I misunderstood my role a bit. So, between that and the lack of actual playing mafia on Day 1, I am going to try to put Day 1 in the back of my mind and kind of start new myself.

Elohcin wrote:I feel like I'm in the dark stumbling around trying to find the baddies.

SVS, I'm glad to have you back. Who would you have voted for Day 3 if you were allowed?

Wilgy, I agree that your tone is a bit mean and I do think you aren't playing like yourself. I'm mostly just confused as to why you are going so hard against me.

DF seems to be getting more involved and I feel like he is being helpful.

LC is becoming less trustworthy imo. His mannerisms seem sneakier and sneakier.

I am somewhat trusting of Dom atm.

I am on the fence with G-Man. His comment about his vote was suspicious to me. And I am not sure I buy SVS's explanation of it.

I think that's all for now....

S~V~S wrote:Have you read her posts from earlier today? What are your opinions on them?

S~V~S wrote:

DFaraday wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Shouldn't we take all days into account?

Sure, as long as we don't forget what came before. And if my theory is correct, the fact that she's just becoming more active now doesn't really contradict it.

But if you read what she said, it kind of should, shouldn't it? It should be taken into account at least.

I had to go out for a few hours, but am in for the day now. I should have plenty of time to do those rereads I wanted to do.

Sorsha wrote:And your dismissal of my G-Man case doesn't sit well with me either, DF. You say I'm "looking too much into his comment" that's the same thing he said (or similar) after the last days vote but the case you quoted had three of his comments going back to day one in it... Did you even read the case or are you just echoing what he said?

Do you have any suspicions other than me DF?

S~V~S wrote:Shouldn't we take all days into account?

S~V~S wrote: I think her recent ginormous posts giving opinions about everyone which have boosted discussion seem distinctly the opposite of trying to avoid either suspicion or the spotlight.

G-Man wrote:Voting Niju now
Daughter's baptism today
Back in afternoon?

Sorsha wrote:

Scotty wrote:I see you bubbles!

sorsha

Was this just because I'm the low poster or is there some suspicion of me?

I do think sig has said some suspicious stuff but I don't know if I want to make it a three way tie.... And not seeing what's off about Matt & llama tho.

Sorsha wrote:Well, whatever caught my eye earlier that I wanted to ask DF about has eluded me now.

Hi wilgy

Sorsha wrote: G-Man- voted for llama on day one which looks good for him, he moved it off for a minute then went back though.

G-Man wrote:I'd like to point out that I had originally voted for Llama before Wilgy had. I moved my vote for a few mintues but ended up going back to Llama. Wilgy and Wilgette should really be considered the final two votes on Llama since I was being a moveable-vote dork. Just want to set that record straight.

Why did you move your vote away from llama and then back G-Man? Who did you move it to and why?

Day two voted Matt. Day three took issue with Wilgy's rainbow list. He made this post 39 minutes before the poll ended:

G-Man wrote:Voting Wilgy but
I'll be watching as other
Votes trickle in

And I questioned why it was ok for him to make a late vote but no one else. I know, and everyone else does too, that late votes and close ones can be manipulated by the baddies but G-Man is just assuming that we are all okay with him being a late voter?
And one minute before the poll closes:

G-Man wrote:Switched my vote to Quin
For the sake of a little
Certainty tonight

Am I the only one bothered by the player who has been a last minute voter in all of the lynches so far being the one criticizing last minute voters? Yes, he did vote for llama day one but I'd like to know more about his late vote switch that day. I'm leaning bad on him, depending on his reasoning for the day one llama vote this could edge slightly higher.

Dom wrote:

Long Con wrote:nijuukyugou gets my vote for the time being. She hardly here, and when she's here she has basically echoed popular points of conversation (Wilgy's weird, Matt was suspicious) and it felt like she was buddying me as well. So, she's my current top suspicion.

I could follow this. You're certainly not wrong. I'm just not sure that makes her bad.

S~V~S wrote:But sofar, on short acquaintance, I have been pretty right about you

Hey every one, who thinks sig is bad?

Not me.

DFaraday wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Does anyone think he is bad? If so why? If on the fence,why?

I definitely think he is not. I think he is an easy lynch most games, but having seen it happen so many times, I am getting a better grip on sig, and I think he is a civ.

This is a game with one bad team. Then need to make cases on civvies to win. Let's not let them.

Faraday, do you have an opinion on sig or on Soneji? What about you, LC?

I don't see anything suspicious about Sig. His posts read genuine, and he voted early for Matt both times, which does not strike me as suspicious. It certainly doesn't qualify as bandwagoning or throwaway votes. His Soneji vote is okay, I guess. I haven't gotten to Soneji yet.

So... who is suspicious?

Soneji wrote:I can hardly see how me saying that I have found that those who jump on no lynch supporters are mafia is offering no opinion on Llama. My vote would have been on Llama had I not passed out that night and missed EoD.

S~V~S wrote:Thanks Faraday.

I am hoping to see who,if anyone, supports a lynch of sig. Glad to see you do not

S~V~S wrote:Does anyone think he is bad? If so why? If on the fence,why?

I definitely think he is not. I think he is an easy lynch most games, but having seen it happen so many times, I am getting a better grip on sig, and I think he is a civ.

This is a game with one bad team. Then need to make cases on civvies to win. Let's not let them.

Faraday, do you have an opinion on sig or on Soneji? What about you, LC?

Long Con wrote:Faraday never came in to comment. Maybe he's just planning on voting for Dom.

S~V~S wrote:

DFaraday wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Wow. That was the most manipulative shitty lynch I have seen in a while.

Since when is suspecting LC a good voting reason, Faraday?

RIP Quin

As I explained before, the way he seemed dead set on LC and seemed to take every opportunity to go after him made Quin look bad to me. Then when he came under fire, he did little to defend himself. And, as I mentioned, I'm not reading Wilgy as bad, and I didn't want him to get lynched.

But that is a nice strawman of my voting reason.

Now that you know Quin was NOT bad, you seem to hold the same opinion, though.

And it isn't a "strawman"; there was no argument to be refuted, nor have I refuted one falsely. And not all of us are rhetoriticians. No need for the jargon. That was the reason you put forward for voting for him.

DFaraday wrote:I'm voting Quin because I think his approach towards LC has felt shady, and he made little effort to deefend himself, which kind of read like defeated baddie to me. Also, I don't think Wilgy is bad.

He made rather a good effort to defend himself, IMO. At least I thought so screaming in silence land. And when you voted Wilgy had 2 votes, you were the 4th for Quin, right? So basically, you are buddying up to LC with this vote, right?

And @Wilgy, you sound surprised. Both Eloh & I have been talking about this; I have quite a bit. Ninju used the word "caustic". You are acting not like you. I am not sure who you ARE acting like, but it is someone not as kind or understandable as yourself

Quin wrote:Lynching me for Long Con's arguments is...bad

Lynching me because of separate reasons is...slightlylessbadbutstillprettybad

so plz no

Quin wrote:

Soneji wrote:That was a pretty unenthusiastic defense, Quin.

Yes, it was. I'm unenthusiastic about the concept of people no longer seeing LC as scum.

Quin wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Sorsha wrote:

Quin wrote:Quin won't cause any shenanigans by voting wilgy for self preservation, since he's civ. You should all vote LC or sprityo.

How do you know he's civ?

He doesn't. He just knows he's not bad, because Quin IS bad.

nah

S~V~S wrote:Wow. That was the most manipulative shitty lynch I have seen in a while.

Since when is suspecting LC a good voting reason, Faraday?

RIP Quin

Dom wrote:

DFaraday wrote:I'm voting Quin because I think his approach towards LC has felt shady, and he made little effort to deefend himself, which kind of read like defeated baddie to me. Also, I don't think Wilgy is bad.

which baddie are you

Long Con wrote:He doesn't smell like a Civ.

Dom wrote:DFaraday, is Wilgy civ?