The Syndicate

I forgot to give a huge thank you to boo for hosting this incredibly depraved game. I had a ton of fun. Thanks boo, you sick bastard!

Yeah! Good game everyone! Big shoutout to my teammates.

Bigger shoutout to Turnip Head. I, and I know everyone on my team feels the same way, felt *really* bad about turning on you. I felt terrible when you flipped Indie. Please forgive me!

I'm done thinking. She's bad. Lets lynch her.

S~V~S wrote:Well, we knew he was not a civ.

Yeah, but I was hoping he'd be a legit baddie. We *need* to get a full fledged baddie lynch under our belt.

Well, that was unexpected.

Turnip Head wrote:Only that you survived the lynch and didn't try to explain why. But I know that doesn't necessarily make you a baddie which is why I've tried to keep an open mind about you.

Guys, I'm not bad. Several people here know that. The civvies need me, i have a lot of power and ive used that power for good. We need to keep the numbers. I'm voting for Elo and hoping for the best. I know it's not me, and it's quite possible that she's bad. Just going with my gut.

Well Turnip Head. I've spent the last couple hours racking my brain for any possible way you could be good. I didn't find it. Sorry.

Turnip Head wrote:I already said that FH flipping civ has made me feel a lot better about you SVS. Either way you are not an original baddie. It is either Ace or Elo. I have reasons to suspect both. I know it is one of them. Evidence tells me it's ace. Gut tells me it might be Elo.

What evidence? If anything the evidence proves that I am a civilian.

It seems like he'd like to see us lynch Elo in his place. Does anyone have anything to say in regards to lynching Elo?

Turnip Head wrote:She has mainly followed Epi's vote around. She seemed to trust FH in her gut, despite voting for her. That's all I have. If she's a baddie, she's played a flawless and quiet game.

Sometimes that's all it takes. I'll agree that she has completely followed Epi's lead this entire game, or at least in the latter half of it. I haven't seen her come on and express an original thought at all. So if she is bad, she's either been clinging to Epi in the hopes of going under the radar, or she's on his team and they are working together.

So, do you think Epi is bad too?

Turnip Head wrote:I've narrowed it down to either you or Elo. If you are not bad, Elo is. Don't have anything on her, she hasn't said much this game. You I suspect for surviving a lynch and for trying to get me lynched today. But it's one of the two of you.

Well I lynched rey pretty hard, and the Trump Cards tried to kill/frame me with a lynch switch. So, I'm ruling my self out based on those facts. Can you point to anything in Elo's game that proves she is bad? Voting record? Maybe something she has said, I know there isn't much, but maybe she slipped up somewhere.

Turnip Head wrote:When have I had time to say anything civvie? Unless people are talking about me, they are not talking at all.

You have until the poll closes to convince me to vote for someone else. Go.

I have no sympathy for baddies.

Epignosis wrote:I voted Turnip Head again. Nobody is discussing anything.

No words. No rhetoric. Just brutal mob justice. Delicious, brutal mob justice.

Guys I feel really good about this next lynch. Its about time we nabbed ourselves a baddie.

S~V~S wrote:He's bad.

I believe you.

S~V~S wrote:Turnip Head, k?

K

Who do you think we should lynch today, S~V~S?

I made a case against Turnip Head before, and I wanted to get him lynched. It just didn't happen. Hopefully it turns out better tomorrow.

S~V~S wrote:Did you guys not read her arguments on why she was not likely to be a baddie?

Honestly? I was just too stuck up on her being saved by indabutt. But now I feel stupid because obviously she was right and indabutt was framing her.

I do think that you've been right about Turnip Head all this time though, and I'm sorry I didn't speak up about it sooner. But we can lynch him tomorrow. Promise.

Epignosis wrote:
AceofSpaces wrote:So, I'm totally OK with lynching Turnip Head now.
That's not the person I had in mind.

OK, who do you have in mind? I'm curious.

So, I'm totally OK with lynching Turnip Head now.

Well that sucks.

I'm going to vote for FH. I don't think indabutt would waste his power to frame someone. I think FH is eeeevil.

Sassy Black Woman wasn't sassy enough. What a loser.

I agree that DH has been sneaky through this game for awhile now. That, and he totally wasted his vote last day in the most obvious fashion.

So that happened.

I'm going to vote for FH.

Flyin' High wrote:Whatever, Epi. Please just lynch me. I'm sick of arguing with you. I made a mistake.

And Aces, as for the card czar thing, I had literally not given that any thought the entire game having not been the card czar yet. I am a tired civvie. It's exhausting to feel like I'm either talking to myself or being berated for trying.

Maybe I'm being butthurt. Gonna walk away for a bit.

I think part of the reason you feel like you are talking to yourself is because there are several people who seem to be content just sitting back and doing nothing to help further discussion. I personally can see where you are coming from with Epi, but he's always been a bit snarky. It's very hard for me to read him in games.

Still contemplating my vote.

FH has made a lot of convenient mistakes lately. First she overlooked the fact that I was the Card Czard, and now this. I want to believe she's just a tired civie, but it's looking bad for her right now.

I need to think about this next lynch carefully. We can't afford to make a mistake on this one.

It's freaking me out how quiet today is. BWT, what do you think about Turnip Heads latest post? Is there anyone else you think might be bad?

I voted for Turnip Head. Shouldn't surprise anyone.

Flyin' High wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:In FH's vote count manipulation analysis, in this post that inevitably led to the Rey lynch, is there a reason the Trump Cards weren't mentioned as a possible factor? Couldn't they have just as easily caused the non-tie between Sorsha and JJ as the PB? FH only focused on the Bukkake team as the ones to blame. While FH was right, it's weird that the Trump Card roles were omitted from the discussion. Unless I missed something that explains why. They have vote manipulation abilities too that could have affected the outcome of that lynch.
I didn't ignore the trump cards in my original analysis which the post you linked is a derivative of. I specifically mentioned the two midgets role and ruled out why it was highly unlikely to be involved. You're right that I didn't specifically mention the sassy black woman as a possibility. I should have but didn't because the Day 1 lynch was a tie which means llama couldn't have been that role (if he was the sassy black woman he'd have started with -2 votes which wouldn't have resulted in a tie). I did miss one possibility--doin' it in the butt might have made johns2jj buttsore which would have given him 5 extra votes and put him ahead of llama Day 2. I missed that specific power in my analysis of the Day 2 lynch.

But considering llama appears to have been on the Trump Cards team, I'd hope my efforts to prove his baddieness gives me some credit.

I feel I've proven my civvieness in other ways as well which a read back through my posts should make clear.

Regardless, I wonder why you only highlighted my second big analysis post and ignored my first, much more thorough (and reason for determining the PB was involved) original analysis.

Psssssst. It's because he's mafia.

Bit of a delay with my game, so I am going to throw down what I've got on Turnip Head. And to make him feel better, my case will be based 95% on things he has said/done. First, lets start out with that sketchy vote.

Turnip Head wrote:I find myself trusting the INH voters more than the FH voters. I still don't really see a case on INH though, at least not one that makes sense from front to finish. I haven't gotten positive vibes from him but I also haven't played with him much so I don't know what I'm talking about.

But I think if I vote for INH it will end in a tie, which seems fun.

So I'ma vote INH.

So you trust the INH votes, but you don't see the case on him? You have positive vibes from him, but you are still willing to vote for him? You contradict yourself way to much here, and it sounds like you were trying too hard to come up with an excuse to vote for INH even though you probably knew he was good. So you make sure to put in things like "I don't see the case on him" and "I am getting positive vibes from him" just so you can go back later and shirk responsibility for your vote. Classic baddie.

Now, some further evidence against you:

Turnip Head wrote:In FH's vote count manipulation analysis, in this post that inevitably led to the Rey lynch, is there a reason the Trump Cards weren't mentioned as a possible factor? Couldn't they have just as easily caused the non-tie between Sorsha and JJ as the PB? FH only focused on the Bukkake team as the ones to blame. While FH was right, it's weird that the Trump Card roles were omitted from the discussion. Unless I missed something that explains why. They have vote manipulation abilities too that could have affected the outcome of that lynch.

While this quote in and of itself isn't damning, I am bringing it up to prove a point. Here Turnip Head seems to be suggesting the FH purposely omitted the Trump Cards from her analysis for whatever reason. Perhaps because she herself is a Trump Card, and thus knew that the vote manipulation had nothing to do with her team? It's a slip up I've seen before from a baddie. They mistakenly ignore their own teams roles when trying to look for baddies. I want to be clear I am *not* saying that is what happened with FH here. Buuut

Turnip Head wrote:What do you think Epi? Ace or INH as a Bukkake buddy, are you buying it? I can see it, but I'm not sure I'm convinced.

Also Epi, what's your opinion of Elo so far this game? I don't think she's posted since I joined, I'll have to go back to her earlier posts and see if I can get a read on her.

Lets ignore the continued noncommittal response, and focus on the bigger slip up here. TH assumes that FH is suspicious of me and INH because she thinks we are on the same teams as the buttake. . Which would be insane because both me and INH voted to LYNCH rey. It would make no sense for us to be his teammates AND constant bringing him up for lynch/ actually casting the votes that lynched him. Why would TH think this? Because he is a Trump Card and made the same exact slipup I described above.

Bonus Case;

S~V~S or Bass was the One Night Stand, we can all pretty much agree on that. *If* it was S~V~S, it would explain why she was so sure Dom was bad.

There is my case. I think we should lynch Turnip Head.

I'm hosting a game right now, so I don't have time to post in huge detail like I want.

@DH. If I were a baddie, I would have just let FH die. I don't see how me changing my vote was *that* crazy. Especially because I was the card Czar, and would have had to break the tie anyway.

@TH. Yes, sketchy. And considering how S~V~S treated you/dom, I'm pretty sure she knew something.

Rest in peace S~V~S and Bass. That last day cycle really sucked.

So, first things first. Why did I change my vote to FH? It was because I didn't want her to get lynched. My initial vote for her was hasty and ill thought out. The lynch had become one giant no u, and unfortunately it let the baddies take advantage between the conflict between me/INH/FH. It was too late to change the outcome of the lynch, either INH was going to go, or FH was. In the end I chose to save FH because she has constantly put forth a solid effort in finding baddies and analyzing the data we have. I didn't want to lose that. I'm sorry INH was a civie. Rest in peace, INH.

quote="DharmaHelper"]16. One Night Stand: Choose one other player to spend the night with. Anything that happens to one happens to the other. If one or the other gets targeted for a kill, protect, curse, etc. then if affects both of them. If the player you spend the night with targets someone you are told who they targeted.

So at least one of Bass/SVS is guaranteed to be a civ?[/quote]

This is a good observation. I'm thinking S~V~S was probably the One Night Stand, based on her behavior towards the end there. She seemed really certain Dom/TH was up to no good. Maybe we know why now.

Speaking of TH, I'm really starting to suspect you myself. The reason you gave for your vote last lynch was waaaaaay sketchy, and I'll be making a case against you.

I've got a question, Flyin' High. If I was on INH's team, would I do this?

Changes vote to INH

I've voted for FH too. I don't see how a civie could in good conscience push such a weak theory so feverishly.

I am indeed the Czar.

Well you are wrong FH. It's as simple as that.

Flyin' High wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:
S~V~S wrote:FHs analysis was sound.
No it wasn't. She thought that because I made a sexual innuendo about PB, that means that I was PB. That's horrible analysis. Then I get two more votes for me immediately after, not adding any more reasons against me, just stating that they were trusting FH. This is insanely suspicious to me.
I don't think S~V~S is talking about my rationale for voting you but my analysis of which players could possibly be the PB which had rey on a short list.

And neither you or Aces have addressed my question about why the two of you were so sure the other wasn't the PB. Teammates backing each other up, perhaps?

I haven't said anything all day. I've been sick and didn't have the energy to put anything up.

If you want an exact reason for why I thought it was rey over INH, I'm pretty sure you can just read back to my post leading up to rey's lynch. I found rey to be deflecting direct suspicion with quick jokes. I also noticed that the buttake had used all his powers up, after rey's name had been brought up. Which lead me to believe rey knew his time was short, and wanted to use his powers while he still could.

I didn't think INH was the Buttake, because he brought up having his vote forced for BWT. He also quoted, somewhat unethically, boo's pm. That, and I just had a much stronger feeling towards rey.

I don't know what INH's role is, I am not on a baddie team with him. I never backed him up *at all* and your insistence that I did is kind of suspicious itself.

POwer keeps going out in my house. So I'm voting now for rey. He is the last person the butt could be from FH's list, and when confronted with a direct suspcion he deflected with a joke instead of adressing it. I think he used his powers up because he saw his name being thrown around and thought he didn't have much time left.

Yeah... my vote was totally forced there. Sorry, BWT.

reywaS wrote:Well, that's lame.

Nice deflection.

I've decided to vote for BWT. Seems the smartest way to go for me right now.

Flyin' High wrote:Thanks for the votes in the night poll!

RIP in pieces you silly llama.

So, since llama survived 2 lynches I think it's safe to assume he wasn't the Taint, but was Balls Deep. If that's the case, then I don't think the Pixelated Bukkakae role could have voted for Sorsha Day 1.

Things we know or can logically deduce:
We know Day 1 resulted in a tie.
llama was part of Mafia Team 1 (not the team with the Pixelated Bukkake)
Pixelated Bukkake's vote is worth 2 and any player who votes the same as PB but isn't a teammate has a vote worth 1.5

Scenario 1 among the votes for Sorsha:
Player 1 is Pixelated Bukkake, vote = 2
Player 2 is Teammate of PB, vote = 1
Player 3 is llama, not a teammate of PB, vote = 1.5
Vote total = 4.5
Result = NOT A TIE

Scenario 2 among the votes for Sorsha:
Player 1 is Pixelated Bukkake, vote = 2
Player 2 is not a teammate of PB, vote = 1.5
Player 3 is llama, not a teammate of PB, vote = 1.5
Vote total = 5
Result = NOT A TIE

Scenario 3 among the votes for Sorsha:
Player 1 is not Pixelated Bukkake, vote = 1
Player 2 is not Pixelated Bukkake, vote = 1
Player 3 is not Pixelated Bukkake, vote = 1
Penis envy prize winner used extra vote on Sorsha
Vote total = 4
Result = TIE

If someone sees another scenario that can result in a Day 1 tie that I missed, please post it.

Flyin' High wrote:The breakdown of votes against would look like this:
Player 1 (Pixelated Bukkake) vote worth 2
Player 2 (llamataint) vote worth 1
Player 3 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Player 4 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Player 5 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Player 6 (not a teammate) vote worth 1.5
Total = 9 votes
That would have caused john to be lynched over llama Day 2.
Based on the likely breakdown of votes against john Day 2 the most likely and plausible scenario for john to be lynched over llama Day 2 is if the Pixelated Bukkake was among his voters. And I think we can rule out any of the Day 1 Sorsha voters as being the Pixelated Bukkake since those scenarios don't result in a tie.

Players who voted for Sorsha Day 1: Dom, Mister Rearranger, llama

Players who voted for johnjjs Day 2: Dom, insertnamehere, Flyin' High, llama, AceofSpaces, reywaS

Based on this, neither Dom nor llama are the Pixelated Bukkake. Which leaves INH, me, Aces, and reywaS as possible candidates for that role. I am not that role.

I plan to read back through the posts of INH, Aces, and rey to see if anything stands out.

That's a nice breakdown, but I'm not the butt. I need to reorganize my thoughts now and try and root out some evil.

I voted for DH, FH, and K4j. They are the most civie in my book. I picked some powers that would give them a much appreciated edge against badies who refuse to be lynched.

AceofSpaces wrote:FH's breakdown makes this an easy vote for me. Which is nice because I will be a bit occupied this weekend. Voting Llama

It's such a perfect day.
Glad I spent it with you

It's such a perfect day.
I'm glad I spent it with you.

There.

FH's breakdown makes this an easy vote for me. Which is nice because I will be a bit occupied this weekend. Voting Llama

Shit. That sucks. R.I.P John. Your day one voting really threw me off. Very sorry I was wrong.

Eyeball Squirting Pus

Gotta say, I'm not sure what to think about DH's and llama's bromance. I'll be keeping an eye on them too as we move forward.

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