The Syndicate

Saw this and thought of this game, the Dr Dre-idel.

http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/241045

I mean, he could be in the southern half of the map, still be in the right place, and not actually be lying....or there is a team of 4--and 2 are staying close and 1 is roaming around to discover new areas and find more targets.

My gut says that he's being truthful about that particular piece of information. But that's just an assumption. He could be lying about it. Does it matter?

Golden wrote:@Lorab - it helps that we lynched so many indys early, but I think I have all 7 accounted for without Typh.

That's why I have him as bad.

And you think it is in our best interests for.... way to leave us hanging!

It's possible that he wasn't indy, but, at any rate, I agree that he was not on the side of good. But what I have reason to think his role was, doesn't seem like a baddie team role. But maybe I'm wrong on that.

And I totally went to add something and forgot to finish the end sentence. I think it is in our best interests for Timmer/his team not find out where the swamp of everlasting night is.

Interesting thought on the trickster making it look like someone else was on witherdeath.

I still strongly believe that Wilgy was on Witherdeath and that result was the Trickster.

I also think that Typh was an evil indy; I do not think he was on a team. I'm fairly sure of his role and it wouldn't make sense to be either a mafia team role or a civ/civ-friendly role.

Tranq wrote:
Golden wrote:Even to the extent that I'm beginning to think that the fight with Dom could be a sign of Dom and Matt being on the same team, trying to make Dom look bad so that Matt can survive longer term. Today has felt like a gambit to secure Matt's survival.

I agree with Tranq, in that I'm coming out of this side of the day feeling like all these guys could be bad... wouldn't it be funny if the four guys we voted to be on the poll are an entire team
I doubt Matt and Dom are faking their back & forth

Draconus wrote:I am tearing the rest of my hair out trying to figure you out, Matt.

So here it goes. Pants down, bearing all, gun to head, "WHAT TEAM?!"
I think Matt, TH, and Timmer are Decay. Possibly Lorab, too, if she's bad. (and that's a fat fucking IF)
I think SVS could be the last Cabal, and I think she recruited Dom.
My thoughts atm are similar to yours. Not the same, but similar.

LoRab wrote:Timmer has got to be a baddie. I think he's circle and I agree he has to have at least 2 teammates. I think he was in the right place at the right time to be removed twice and I think his teammates are making sure he stays that way.
If Timmer is at the right place at the right time, he likely has 3 teammates left.

I'd think he'd only need 2. At any rate, the question becomes, what happens if he stays put? What can we do about that? And given Golden's message, is there a greater risk in that? I think it's in our best interest for

Tranq wrote:I think all three of you could be bad tbh.

I'm still thinking TH > Matt > Dom atm but i haven't voted yet. I'm willing to consider all options.

Do any of you think Timmer isn't a baddie?
Do you think he's Cabal or Circle?
Assuming he's Circle, who do you think his teammates are? He has to have atleast 2 or 3.
How do you think he managed to disappear from the poll two times in a row?
Thoughts on the Cabal?
Thoughts on the Living Statue?
Thoughts on SVS?
Thoughts on LoRab?

Timmer has got to be a baddie. I think he's circle and I agree he has to have at least 2 teammates. I think he was in the right place at the right time to be removed twice and I think his teammates are making sure he stays that way.
I think SVS could be the last Cabal. If not, then I'm not sure.
I think the Living Statue is on team civ.
See above.
I think LoRab is full of awesomesauce.

S~V~S wrote:
Dom wrote:No, SVS, it's that you haven't given a single reason. I'd like to hear how I could be a periphery baddie. Which team am I on?

Don't make such a casual statement with zero reasoning and expect me to not respond.
Well you are on the poll today, so several people must think you are a baddie. My point was that you were, IMO, peripheral, perhaps a recruit. And if you are, I have no idea which team you are on. People try to make associations, but they are often wrong, so I don't spend alot of time on that unless the reason I suspect someone is based on interactions. I believe this is the second time I have said this in this game.

And I know Lorab trusts you, but I also know Lorab has a big heart and can be easy to trick because she WANTS to believe. I also know Golden trusts Lorab,which has given me pause about her, since I previously suspected her, and also, to a lesser extent, about you. But I know WHY he trusts her; I don't know why she trusts you. Just like she, or you, don't really know why I do NOT. Lets say it is a process of elimination based on a conversation I had with someone now dead.

If I ever vote for you, I will tell you why.

I'd call it hesitant trust. I've learned from experience. And I have my reasons to offer that hesitant trust. I also recognize that I could be wrong. I don't think I am, but it's possible. That said, I don't trust anyone other than myself 100%, even if I know their role and even if I understand their reasons.

Matt wrote:TH - Blah

I've been at this for two days straight. Matt is a tired panda.

Anyway I'm not quitting by any means, but I can't possibly defend myself any longer, mostly because I don't think any of it is getting through to most of you.

Lorab seems like a baddie that's upset Dom outed himself and then blamed me. "Beware the Lorab" - Dr Wilgy November 2015

Never forget!

Be back tomorrow before work. Peace all

Wilgy had nothing on me. He accused me out of nowhere. Gave false evidence against me. And continued. I fully believe he was bad. And that his evil ways were his motivation.

If he was civ, then he was quite simply wrong.

If that is your only motivation for suspecting me, then you have no case. If you suspect me for legit reasons. then I look forwrd to hearing them.

And my suspicion of you has NOTHING to do with Dom. Have you even read my posts? Also, Dom didn't out himself.

Matt wrote:Ah I'm not really voting myself. That was just for funsies.

I'm voting Dom

Oh, and at this point, I've said all I can about Dom really. He tried to say he didn't send me to fetch the Gem, then backtracked. He knows my role yet insists on lynching me. I mean, once everyone else sees my role, if I'm lynched, I hope you take the time to consider how utterly preposterous it is to think I'm bad.

Linki - MM, I"d rather you not vote me, but rest assured, if you do nothing bad will happen. With the exception of my fair quest being put to an end.

What quest is that?

Also, I don't believe your quest is fair.

Also, I don't think while some roles are more likely civ than bad, there is no such thing as "preposterous" to consider that any role is evil.

Voting matt. At least for the moment. I didn't feel he was civ before. I don't feel he's civ now. And I certainly don't think that his actions or his posts are helping us towards a civ win.

Since the thing you never talked about was not my reason for finding you suspicious, I still suspect you.

Wilgy had nothing on me. He couldn't have because I'm civ.

Not that I think the spelling will make a difference. Also, that part of the statement is likely not detectable, since the person detecting couldn't know what info Wilgy did or didn't have and he could have had information that I was civ and was trying to get me lynched if he was bad.

If you are lynched and turn up civ, I'm not sure whom I'll look at next. It will depend on what comes of this lynch discussion. Someone being wrong doesn't make them bad.

And specific coordinates as in letter and number? No, that isn't vague. Are you saying that Dom told you what square you should go to?

Matt wrote:
LoRab wrote:What question didn't I answer, Matt?

and I strongly believe that dom is civ. I have reasons for that belief. I know you are wrong about me being bad. Although if you make a case against me other than the fact that I don't trust you and that I don't think we should believe messages from characters at face value, then I'm happy to explain my actions.

for that matter, how do either of those things make me suspish to you?
Actually, it's not really your fault, per se, that I find you suspicious.

I'm going to take Dr Wilgy's word of "Beware the Lorab". Also, based on my answers to Dom on as to why I know his role, look at answer number 1. Another reason to think you two are linked somehow. As well as the fact, I do not recall and I MAY BE WRONG ON THIS, I'll have to check, but weren't you against lynching some of the Witherdeath? Or avoided lynching them at least? Again, that might not even be right, so let me ISO you in a sec to see if I'm right on that.

The question you didn't answer was how is me being a naive dumb dumb (assuming the Spirit Oracle is evil) make me bad? That was my question. You seemed to associate me being bad because I was being "tricked" by the Spirit Oracle, so I wanted to know how you came to that conclusion.

Linki - Golden

At this point, I don't think there's anything I can do to convince you to trust me. What can I do Golden? What can I possibly do that I haven't done? Can I be completely open as to my whereabouts during the game, including my quest? Check, already did that. Can I set aside my slight distrust of you in favor of seeing how nobody is calling you out for your claims? Oh wait, check.

I don't know what else I can do.

Btw, as for Star Wars since you brought that up, I was absolutely going to side with the civs with that role, and with the exception of a single NK that I didn't even really control, I was of no harm to the civs that game. I played as a civ in that game as I would any game I am civ, so if you are using that to dictate my behavior here, then you can go ahead and switch from "Matt is probably bad" to "Matt is good".

I was suspicious of you before you started talking about the Spirit Oracle. That doesn't make you bad--but I already thought you were. My posts about the Spirit Oracle are about the fact that I don't think it's worth the risk of both you being civ and getting a huge boon for staying still for 3 days. and I'm trying to temper your excitement with a dose of possible reality.

Wigly had nothing on me. He couldn't have because I'm civ.

And i never posted about not lynching witherdeath. That was SVS.

If Dom and I agree on things, it's because we happen to agree on things. And I do believe that he is civ, so yeah, I believe he's on my team.

What question didn't I answer, Matt?

and I strongly believe that dom is civ. I have reasons for that belief. I know you are wrong about me being bad. Although if you make a case against me other than the fact that I don't trust you and that I don't think we should believe messages from characters at face value, then I'm happy to explain my actions.

for that matter, how do either of those things make me suspish to you?

Matt wrote:Dom - Question for you. I know you want me gone and all that good stuff, but let me ask you a question outside of myself...

If you think I'm the Trickster, then you must think Dr Wilgy was really Blinkman.

In that case, what do you make of Dr Wilgy's "Beware the Lorab" comment?

In fact, if anyone thinks I'm the Trickster, that must mean you believe Dr Wilgy was Blinkman, so what do you think of his "Beware the Lorab" comment?

Back to Lorab - I just thought of something. Let's assume you're right. Let's assume the Spirit Oracle is a big bad trick against me (which btw I really don't think it is)...how does that make me bad? That would make me a naive dumb dumb, but not bad. So I'm wondering where you are going with that line of thought.

I think he meant that other baddies should be on the lookout.

I didn't say it did make you bad. But you're asking for us to buy you time, because otherwise you can't complete your quest. You are the one asking not to be lynched. I'm not so sure that's the right choice. I'm also not sure that trusting the SO at face value is all that smart in a game--especially not a game with these hosts.

Matt wrote:You know what else Lorab?

You have not even entertained the notion that I may be telling the truth. Why is that? Are you not excited for something awesome to occur if I reach my goal of chillin' for three days? Is there a reason you want to put a stop to that?

Too bad Lorab isn't on the poll today honestly. Though I think Golden has commented that he thinks she's good, we've already established that at least one person is tricking Golden so who knows.

But yeah, Lorab, are you not excited for something wonderful for the town to happen if I reach my goal? Does that not give you any hesitation whatsoever?

Linki - Speakin' about "dark times", I also know in about two or three posts in the last week, I referenced that was well. Along the lines of "I know I was told dark times are ahead but wow" or something similar. This along with my hints of my Star Gem quest...

At the VERY LEAST, you people can trust that I'm not lying about my quest. Now if you want to think I'm bad/indy with the same quest, well fine, but at the very least, know I'm not makin' this stuff up on the fly!

Yee-haw let's get a town win, civs. Don't lynch me!

I didn't doubt you were telling the truth. But you've said nothing that makes you necessarily civ. i believe your story, but I don't believe that all good will come if only we don't lynch you. and tht if we do lynch you, we will lose the game.
As always, eye me all you want. I'm not bad.

But that's a nice switcheroo there.

From a game mechanics standpoint, the SO (assuming it's a character in a square) would have the same or a similar message to anyone, regardless of role. I don't think you got the quest because you're civ or because you earned it--I think you got it because you stumbled upon it.

Matt wrote:Anyway, we still have a day and a half.

Going out for food, and when I get back, plan on doing an entire reread in another game I'm in. If anyone has any questions, I will do my best to keep up, but again, out of fairness for some other hosts, I want to spend time on another game I've been neglecting for awhile.

For real peeps, I'm not a good lynch.

Also Lorab, you are so exaggerating. I said I pretty much guarantee that I'm more important then Dom and Turnip at this point because of the Meadows stuff, nowhere did I say I'd be the most powerful civ in the game.

The more you speak, the more bad I think you are. Golden - how sure are you on Lorab because I know you called her good in a previous post.

Yes, I exagerrated, but I think that you exagerated the amazing thing that will happen to you that will be the result of spending 3 days in one spot--especially when we've seen evidence now that doing so is a bad idea.

Tranq wrote:@ LoRab & Matt: Can you look at that list of items and tell me if there are Trickster-type items on there? Items that look like they can take you off the poll?

The items have fairly vague names. I do know that there is a space that can potentially get you off the poll, though.

So a character on a square tells you to go this magical wonderland of goodness, where if you stay there, great things will happen.

You take that on faith. Because we all know that everything that says it is good is good in mafia.

And whatever this great thing is, which you don't know what it is, it will make you so powerful that you are the most important civ in the game.

And you expect us to take all that on faith: first of all believing you, and second of all believing that the information is as straight forward as it seems.

is it possible that the SO was not entirely honest? Or that it wasn't the spirit oracle, even?

So a role that doesn't exist told you something, and you believe it and are going with that. As opposed to thinking that could be a baddie role assuming that guise. I don't think I'm going to follow you in that asssumption.

linkitis: No one has said you've broken the rules. That has never been the point!!! The point is about the spirit of the game.

Matt wrote:If not me, then that's a tough one.

On one hand, I believe Dom could be good, bad, or just trying to survive until a faction wins.

On the other hand, I've been suspicious of Turnip since I viewed him and MM having some kind of necrophiliac affair.

Considering Dom's utter betrayal of me, I would say Dom I think. But I wouldn't be against either and assuming there's not a landslide lynch against me, I will probably hold my vote.

Lorab - here is the post I made eons ago...

Nov 19th 10:54 PM

Matt wrote:Dear Living Statue,
I fear you are dead or have been turned. Perhaps even stuck forever if the Gem is lost. Nonetheless, I have received word that my destiny lies elsewhere. If you are alive and still an ally, good luck to you brave sir. Perhaps one day we will meet again.

Sincerely,
Matt F
This is not some kind of story I'm making up in the here and now. I've been questing the shit out of this game and coming up empty handed, but I'm telling you, just a few more days!!

And yes, from the Spirit Oracle, I absolutely trust. Are you trying to say not to trust the Spirit Oracle? Really?

Given a role that can mimic other roles, then I'm not sure trusting any role is a challenge. I'm not sure I'd follow a quest from a non-definite source.

And I remember that post. But why do you think that a civ didn't find the living statue? That's the part of your logic I'm not following.

Also, I don't trust you.

Matt wrote:Well tbh, I'm tired of defending my position of simply being busy the last two weeks with a new job as well as it being Thankgiving and all that good stuff. There's only so many times I can say "it just didn't register until Tranq asked Timmer the question" before even I'm sick of hearing it. So yeah. You will be contributing to a town loss if you lynch me. If you don't care about that and mindlessly go on to vote for me, your bad not mine. I've tried pretty hard myself to give the civvies a win behind the scenes just as Golden has apparently. I went on a quest to rescue the Living Statue for one. Unfortunately, at one point I was told by the Spirit Oracle, I think, that my quest for the Star Gem was futile and I should move on. Then I made my way to Paradise Meadows where a grand destiny was given to me. All I need to do is make it a couple more days and something awesome will happen apparently. Don't lynch me! Please people, for the love of town. I can't make this stuff up!

so you believe everything you're told in mafia? That seems naive, at best. And I don't have any reason to believe you.

And I don't buy that it didn't register until then. Especially because, IIRC, you got the list after the whole conversation came up. So, uh, I don't see why it wouldn't register.

And please don't be melodramatic. i will contribute to a town loss is nothing other than fear-mongering.

And, if not you, whom, of the choices, do you see most suspicious?

Matt wrote:
LoRab wrote:
Matt wrote:
LoRab wrote:2 days in a row? Seriously?!

I'm thinking Matt over TH. But want to hear other opinions.

I don't think Dom is bad.
Why others opinions? What's your opinion? Why me over TH? Why me at all?
Because I'm entirely unsure about TH. And I think you were dishonest and have twisted your words several times over.
Please be specific. When was I dishonest? When have I twisted my words?

I think you've twisted your words more times than I can mention, particular over the past few days (RL time).

As for dishonest--by not stating that you knew about the list, or posting suspicion without naming it based on that knowledge, I think you were holding back information. I know how I reacted to the obsidian dagger based on my own knowledge of the list--and not acting at all that you knew what items existed, just doesn't hold true for my reading.

Matt wrote:
LoRab wrote:2 days in a row? Seriously?!

I'm thinking Matt over TH. But want to hear other opinions.

I don't think Dom is bad.
Why others opinions? What's your opinion? Why me over TH? Why me at all?

Because I'm entirely unsure about TH. And I think you were dishonest and have twisted your words several times over.

2 days in a row? Seriously?!

I'm thinking Matt over TH. But want to hear other opinions.

I don't think Dom is bad.

That th had more votes? I think it more curious that th didn't have the most votes last time. Based entirely on thread it seemed clear he had the most votes two lunches ago. I'm guessing he found a cure since then? And no idea how hen survived but assuming role or item. Or were you talking about other shenanigans?

And I guess that answers that question

Rip no one.

Curious to see who will be on the lunch poll. I think timmer is our best bet for this lynch at the moment. But intrigued by other names brought up today (Rl time).

Matt wrote:So in that case, those roles were occupied by those who voted Bass?

Hmmm. MM voted me.

Again, I'm obvi tired. Be back tomorrow, got two days off, let's rock this bitch town! BOOM

I think the roles were just story telling. Although all of the roles may be civ--but he could have also mixed them up a bit.

I don't think LC would make it that obvious who voted for whom in a lynch.

I think you are reading too much into the lynch post. And yes, it was a lynch.

How do you get from the post that dr dre is a baddie? I don't think we know the allegiance of any of those roles and at least a couple of them I had assumed civ.

And interesting that th wasn't lynched. I can't make my mind up on him so I don't know if that's good or bad.

Rip bass.

Matt wrote:I appreciate it splints, but given that your vote isn't even on me, you're not one I really need to convince right now.

If I had to pick between Golden, SVS, and Dom right now...I think it would have to be Dom. This dude...oh for shame. For shame, Dom.

That being said, I lied. I don't want to give up. I've had a really fun game and I've been questing, so I'm going to do the only thing I can and vote for Bass to save myself.

TH - I implore you to vote for Bass. I know I've been giving you shit all game, but I'm literally begging here.

Are you really paying that little attention that you don't realize that moving votes to bass isn't going to make a difference in this lunch...unless th found the cure. Which you'd only know if you were teammates with him. And I'm fairly certain that didn't happen this day and we know hadn't happened the last day. So...or are you really pretending to not see that, since you wonder why svs voted for him.

Voting Matt.

Personally, I'm still looking at timer. Would consider Matt or bass. Those are my top tier suspicions so to speak.

RIPIYWG Bullz.

Matt wrote:
LoRab wrote:
Matt wrote:
Per the underline, SVS is tunneling me right now so I'm not sure she'll believe this, so hey Lorab, can you let SVS know that I did not know what the Obsidian Dagger (or any of the other items) did, all I had was a name to an item? Thank you.
I'm not sharing detailed information, because I think that goes against the spirit of the game.

That said, assuming we came across the information in the same way, while you may not know about the Obsidian Dagger, I can't say that it's accurate that you don't know about any of the items on the list. So, what you say is partially accurate, but not entirely truthful.
Tell me, what were your two answers? Mine was Star Gem and the Book. I should've answered Obsidian Dagger for the second answer, but it didn't even cross my mind.

As for all this "spirit of the game", I'm going by the rules set forth by our lovely hosts. If others wish to keep silent on what they have, fine, but I hardly find it against the "spirit of the game". Also, I happen to know Long Con read a personal PM from me last night not having to do with the game, yet never sent me any reprimands regarding all of this "anti-spirit of the game" stuff I've been doing, so I think it's cool peeps.

It doesn't matter what I chose and don't particularly feel like sharing in the thread what I chose. I do not think it in the best interest of the civs to do so.

Also, that it isn't against the rules does not mean that it is the spirit of the game to share specific info. And, in some ways, I mean the game in general, not this particular game. Info dumping also gets to the point where it makes the game less fun in a lot of ways (I don't think this game has gotten to that point, but I've played many games in which that was the case).

As for your point to SVS, one can use information in the thread to form opinions and as motivation for other aspects of a case on someone without actually sharing the information.

Matt wrote:
Per the underline, SVS is tunneling me right now so I'm not sure she'll believe this, so hey Lorab, can you let SVS know that I did not know what the Obsidian Dagger (or any of the other items) did, all I had was a name to an item? Thank you.

I'm not sharing detailed information, because I think that goes against the spirit of the game.

That said, assuming we came across the information in the same way, while you may not know about the Obsidian Dagger, I can't say that it's accurate that you don't know about any of the items on the list. So, what you say is partially accurate, but not entirely truthful.

I'm not sure why anyone would be confused as to why TH had the most votes if they are paying the least bit of attention to the game.

@TH: Do you know why you survived the lynch?

S~V~S wrote:This whole thing reminds me of MPs "parchment" in SOT. I am not liking it, and the fact that it involves the 3 people I listed in my post answer to Dom about whom I suspected is kinda

I agree it is suspish that Matt did nothing about the info sooner or suspect timer earlier. I can confirm that the list exists. I think it was tranquil who originally asked the question about the item's name? I assume he has read the list as well.

It is entirely possible that he is bad, had a teammate come across the list, and that is why he didn't mention it.

I agree it's like the parchment. But I think that it's the figurine that is made up.

And, with that said, Vote: Timmer.

At least for now. I'm on my way out and don't want to forget to vote. He is my strongest suspicion at this particular moment.

S~V~S wrote:Andhave you voted for Timmer? How long have you had this knowledge?

I can't remember if I have voted for Timmer/if I temporarily voted for Timmer at some point. I have definitely expressed suspicion of Timmer and talked about the fact that he is not being honest since the topic came up. I was pretty clear about the fact that I was suspicious of him and did not believe he was being truthful. I didn't want to mention it because talk about map stuff has been discouraged, but since it's come up in discussion, I wanted to jump in.

I was more suspicious of other players during previous lynches. And I also know that lying is not necessarily a baddie thing (civs lie all the time). Increasingly, I have been more suspicious of him.

I've had this since night 4 (so start of day 5, really, since that's when stuff comes through).

I have also come across this information of items. I think it is a complete list, but I'm not certain. I do not believe that it includes items from the item cursing role (but that is speculation).

I also think it's been clear since the post where the dagger appeared that the dagger exists. Timmer has never denied that it existed--just that when he came across it, it said it was something else.

That the "figurine" isn't on the list is what makes it even more clear (to me) that Timmer seems to be lying. I'll also add that nearly all of the other items are named with 2 word names--a few have 3 word names. There are no single named items. Seems odd that the hosts would place a false looking item in a place and call it a name that doesn't match with the other item names.

@SVS: I could see Splints being bad. In her back and forth with Dom, she seemed overly concerned about how what she was saying was coming across and that she was saying the wrong thing, not that he was misinterpreting things. Their interchange made me eye her more. Her tone doesn't feel civ, either. I'm not absolutely certain of suspicion of her, but I don't think I'm seeing her civ game.

I was thinking to likely vote timmer or bass.

Pondering the timmer stuff.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:I think timer is alright I do t get why sorsha is going after me because I haven't posted much. Sorcha is there anyone that's posting that you think is bad beside going for a lie poster?

I don't think the case against you is that you are a low poster, per se. That you make it out to be that Sorsha (and others, but you only name Sorsha) is going after you because you're a low poster doesn't ring true to me and doesn't make you seem civ to me. This response I find quite suspish.

timmer wrote:Sorry for my absence all, I've decided I'm def. going on hiatus after this. I just don't have the time needed to participate properly. I've said all I'm going to say about the fucking Obsidian Dagger and all of that. I made a mistake in using an item which was not called a dagger at all, but only revealed to be one after I used it, and it cost dearly. I've not bothered picking any other items up because I'm not going through all of this again.

MM is wrong about me, just as Golden was wrong about me.

But in a game in which it is clear that not everything is what it seems, why would you take an item and use it on another player? And it doesn't really make sense to me that an item that does something entirely good has to be used on another and can't be used on yourself? Did you think you were giving puppies and rainbows to Epig and that's why you used it on him? Or some other sort of good thing, but I'm going with puppies and rainbows. Also, I now hope to see puppies and rainbows as something you can do to another player in a future Rock Con game.

And, that said, why would you boon another player with an item, not knowing what their team was? I mean, sure we all have players that we have limited trust for, but enough to give puppies and rainbows to? I'm not so sure.

Your defense just doesn't hold true for me.

@matt: I was afk for a couple of hours and just saw your question. Is it my favorite? Not really, but I like it fine. None of my favorite music genres were listed. I went with the choice I thought was best of the given options.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Dom wrote:I think I can trust LoRab and think you are very wrong about her.
I do not trust Matt F because he clearly has no idea what he's talking about.
Timmer? I could see. I'm more inclined to think Bass or FS are bad.
I think we should lync timmer, then LoRab, then you.

I agree about timmer.

Why do you suspect me? Have you even mentioned me before this?

S~V~S wrote:
Dom wrote:SVS-- who are you looking at and why?

Nice to see I didn't die.
I was wondering who might have been NKed last night. The choice of you was...surprising, I guess. Unexpected.

I am looking at lorab, timmer & matt f. Cause I think they are bad

Matt becasue he is not really *feeling* the tinfoil. I think he's trying to find tinfoil acceptable to the crowd at large, and he just isn;t finding it. If civ Matt thinks MM is bad, then civ Matt doesn't just chew that bone, he OWNS that bone, regardless of anyone elses opinion. THIS Matt lets go too easily, IMO, and cares too much what others think.

Timmer becasue I think he got stuck in a bad place, but you don't pick up a dagger and think, "Hrm, maybe if i stick this in Epi he will gain super powers!" And I am fairly sure than like no one thought he was bad, so why would Timmer stick him with a mysterious found object if he was not bad? He had sparse thread, but was active enough to find objects and use them on people. He showed up to defend, but then ... not much.

And no one is better than Lorab at dancing on the head of a needle. But dance seems to be all she has done this game. I stood between her and Mac to some extent becasue I STRONGLY felt (and still do) that he was malevolent, but she has given me neither a warm nor a fuzzy since then, and reading back, she didn't give me any non-mac related warm fuzzies before that, either.

Plus thread specifics i don't have time to loook up before work. Yay for 3 day thread

Who you looking at Dom? What do you think of Lorab, Timmer & Matt F?

You are wrong about me. Not sure what thread specifics you're thinking make me seem bad but I can assure you that you are misreading me. Not sure what warm or what fuZzie you haven't gotten. I am civ.

Timmer I could definitely see as bad, and have suspect d him for days although put him on the back burner for the last lunch, as I found wiggly more suspicious. And still remain of the belief he was bad.

Matt I have no idea. I think you raise a good point though.

For me, I'll have far too little time to devote to thinking game, and I'll have far too much wine dealing with the stress of being at a meal of 20 family members, that I'm not sure I'll be mentally prepared to appropriately participate. Or remember to vote. Or make an educated vote.

My darling hosts:

And would love other's input on this, because it could just be me. But Thursday is US Thanksgiving. For a lot of us, that means a stressful day full of family, limited chances to get away to check mafia, added stress, and way too much food. Not to mention the copious amounts of wine. Could we consider extending this lynch and adding an extra day? That would also give us all something to do on Friday instead of supporting huge corporate masses who make employees get to work in the middle of the night for door breaker sales. So...it makes the world a better place.

I'm fine either way. But wanted to throw it out there.

Glad to see you survived, Dom.

Now let's figure out who is in this circle of whatever. And who is in witherdeath, if it wasn't Wigly, and LC hasn't yet told us the team is eliminated because that would lessen the power of the seemer role. I'm stubborn and remain convinced that he was on that team.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
LoRab wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
LoRab wrote:B and E. Because we should all just BE!!
Bullzeye Erotic?
No, I meant more the verb.
To bea or not to bea.

<3 Bea!!!!

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
LoRab wrote:B and E. Because we should all just BE!!
Bullzeye Erotic?

No, I meant more the verb.

B and E. Because we should all just BE!!

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