The Syndicate

Here's a scenario for you.

LC outed Mp as the Doc and MP didn't deny it. In fact he posted his secrets. But what if LC isn't a Doctor companion but a recruiter? And Mp is recruited! So what I great idea to reveal to all the Doctor....no greater civ cred than that!

I mean is rthat all you got MP? I am suspicious because I believe Hedge is dodgy? What else can I answer?

MP asks why I think Hedge is a recruiter? Because Roxy backed off from her suspicion of her is the reason and well he knows it. I've said it enough! Has she recruited you?

Turnip Head wrote:It cannot be unseen. I think SVS is the recruiter. Normally in a game of mafia, SVS will have plenty to say about Roxy, she's not afraid to offer her own opinion on the matter, she'll tell you the way she sees things. SVS will analyze Roxy's tone, word choice, level of snark etc to determine if she believes Roxy to be bad or not.

None of that thought process showed up at all in this game. And yet, almost all mentions of Roxy in those 13 posts are a defense of Roxy. Or rather, SVS decided to talk about the players who were talking about Roxy, questioning their intentions... she did not discuss Roxy herself.

That's interesting. But i still think Hedge is a recruiter but SVS can be one also. Maybe thay recruit on opposite nights?

Long Con wrote:
Chris wrote:and what I mean by that, is he should not have revealed that information because it was based on a previous role he had.
I don't think it's a big deal at all. The role is dead, we all know ( ) he was it. What should we have done, tried to guess it and prod Snowy for small clues?

Plus when mickey dies his secrets should have been revealed. I mean, that's the normal practise right?

zeek wrote:
Chris wrote:HOSTS: Can you check Mickey Smith's reveals? Some thing aren't lining up, and some of the letters feel like they should be revealed.
Snowy might be able to help us with that one.

Mickey Smith: Rose's on/off boyfriend in the series. A bit of a goof and a clown, he ends up losing Rose for a significant period and struggles with coping with the dangers involved with her newfound friend. He grows and matures however and ends up proving himself later on. If he is targeted by a night action, a coin is flipped. *Secrets* If heads, he proves his heroic ability by absorbing the action, but gaining the ability to switch one of his lynch votes privately via PM if he so desires. If tails, he goofs it all up, absorbs the night action, and his vote is worth 0 the following day.

zeek wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:haha...I get why MP changed his avatar now.
Why?

What happens when the Doc regenerates?

haha...I get why MP changed his avatar now.

zeek wrote:Why don't you, Snowy? I could easily be wrong about Chris and I will evaluate after another cycle. This next cycle is crucial for my thoughts on Chris.

I think I got fixated on the idea. From his wild posts to his NK survival. I could be wrong. I think I may trust you guys and not vote for Chris today. Unless something changes before end of day.

zeek wrote:Chris, its not misinformation. It's fact. Tell me how I'm wrong? The end bit simply says he'll not rezz until the following day if he gets lynched.

Snow Dog wrote:zeek, any ideas who the Master might be?
I dunno. I believe Chris though I have a few niggling doubts that I can't clear up really. So I would presume the real Master may have accused him as soon as he survived the double nightkill. I'd have to look back.

Seems most of you are believing him.

I don't do disinformation and you don't know me to expect anything.

zeek, any ideas who the Master might be?

Chris wrote:
zeek wrote:

Based on everything. Just look at his posts from last night and its obvious!
So, you're not going to tell me?

Who rezzed him?

Are you serious?

He's even been outed by LC.

Snow Dog wrote:
zeek wrote:
Chris wrote:MP, you say you know exactly why no one was lynched last night. Can you share? Also, you never mentioned how you were rezzed? Any idea how that happened?
You don't know why MP was rezzed? Surely it's pretty obvious by now.
So the rez is nothing to do with roles or an anything game related? Either of them?

Sorry you were talking about MP. My mistake

zeek wrote:
Chris wrote:MP, you say you know exactly why no one was lynched last night. Can you share? Also, you never mentioned how you were rezzed? Any idea how that happened?
You don't know why MP was rezzed? Surely it's pretty obvious by now.

So the rez is nothing to do with roles or an anything game related? Either of them?

Long Con wrote:Kate enslavement a lynch, two rezzes, hylotheism all sorts Piggies whaa!

Ha ha, just kidding! I'm SANE again!! Good to have my mind back. At least I knew with the double targeting rule, I was safe last night. And now it's a brand new dawn, YES, Day NINE! I know there's some people who have decoded some of the unrevealed Civvie roles that will know what I mean.

I am very surprised that the Cybermen chose to kill Dana, but I think it was a respectable move. They want to take out "confirmed" Civvies, so they go for someone that The Doctor insisted was good... but they also choose a low-poster, leaving the more impassioned, involved players alone this time.

A failed Strax kill is always such a conundrum. Well, not for keys apparently. So, today, we'll have a push for voting Epig, for voting Chris, for voting DFaraday, for voting Bass... I wonder how it will turn out?

I'm getting too convinced by these cases. Chris' analysis of his version of the Cyber Team based on vote analysis was convincing to me, but then it's true that a lot of those votes were the "popular" vote of the day, evident when he added another player or two to the list of "they satisfy the vote conditions for my Cyber suspicion" alongside Epig, Bass, and Snow Dog.

Epig's observation of Sabie's role-checker-infused votes on Chris made sense, but then keys observed that the Cyber Team would also want to lynch a role that was a hard-to-kill Civvie role... like Chris was claiming.

Now keys is, like, SO sure of DFaraday... even though a Strax survive could be Civvie. What if Strax had failed to kill me? Would keys be coming after me instead?

What? Is he saying what i think he is saying? The only person defending dana is MP.

and welcome back zeek....and MM I guesss.

For the record I was not serious in my voting low posters comment. jeez you guys, lighten up!

No Dom. Not all of them!

If you survive tonight Chris(by which I mean not targeted, if you survive a NK is another matter) I think I may lay off you. No promises.

I actually agree with what Chris is sayng about absent players. Why should people who are actually playing the game get all the heat?

Turnip Head wrote:I think Chris is the recruiter.

You may be on to something. If i change my opinion tomorrow.....

Chris wrote:
Baddie wrote:I'm not reading your posts any more either. So much better stuff to do.
I wouldn't expect you to read my posts any more... every time you post, you make the case against you better.

Indigo 3?

Whatever.

Indigo 3

I'm not reading your posts any more either. So much better stuff to do.

Bit rude chris.

Fair enough BR.

Black Rock wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Dom wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I do think you might be onto something, Chris. Honestly, I was starting to wonder about Snow Dog as D8 developed and I was dead, because he is vastly different from earlier, civvie Snow Dog 1.0 who was very unsure of himself -- and then, together with Bass, was trying to push Hedge being the recruiter, and I don't think I saw any real reason other than the obvious Rox-Hedge connection which doesn't make sense to me. This would have been maybe to keep heat off of their teammate, Sabie?
I am still unsure. My worry is that Chris is Amy Pond. My bigger worry is that he is the Master. As for Hedge....well it's a hunch. Not absolutely sure of it but what can one do? I've been told i follow other people leads. Well i've been doing that since Snow dog 1.0 and look what happene
d to me there. If I don't have any ideas myself of course i follow other peoples suspicions. Always have. always will.

SD 1 found it hard to get in the game. Big cast, new personalities, I had not played a while and i was rusty. i got lynched for that.
Now there are fewer here and i've warmed up.
I do not understand your conjecture that Chris is Amy Pond given that no one died in place of him. My understanding is that Rory would have died instead.
Also don't get why Chris would role hint one of two civvies if he was a third civvie. That would make him look very suspish to the real Sarah Jane & Cap'n Jack, for no real gain.

Linki~ good point.
I presume because he wouldn't be allowed to say who he was? So if he was Amy, he couldn't say so, but he wanted ppl to know he was civ so he offered to roles that he was not with similsr reason for surviving.

but maybe you are right and he wouldn't do that and he is indeed the Master.

Hosts Is it allowed for a player to say "I am either A or B"?
Really? Game play is game play and you shouldn't ask the hosts to play the game for you.

I find myself unsure of the rules of mafia. i simply want it clarified whether this is role dropping or not. But if you like i withdraw the question and invite players opinions on the matter.

S~V~S wrote:
Dom wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I do think you might be onto something, Chris. Honestly, I was starting to wonder about Snow Dog as D8 developed and I was dead, because he is vastly different from earlier, civvie Snow Dog 1.0 who was very unsure of himself -- and then, together with Bass, was trying to push Hedge being the recruiter, and I don't think I saw any real reason other than the obvious Rox-Hedge connection which doesn't make sense to me. This would have been maybe to keep heat off of their teammate, Sabie?
I am still unsure. My worry is that Chris is Amy Pond. My bigger worry is that he is the Master. As for Hedge....well it's a hunch. Not absolutely sure of it but what can one do? I've been told i follow other people leads. Well i've been doing that since Snow dog 1.0 and look what happene
d to me there. If I don't have any ideas myself of course i follow other peoples suspicions. Always have. always will.

SD 1 found it hard to get in the game. Big cast, new personalities, I had not played a while and i was rusty. i got lynched for that.
Now there are fewer here and i've warmed up.
I do not understand your conjecture that Chris is Amy Pond given that no one died in place of him. My understanding is that Rory would have died instead.
Also don't get why Chris would role hint one of two civvies if he was a third civvie. That would make him look very suspish to the real Sarah Jane & Cap'n Jack, for no real gain.

Linki~ good point.

I presume because he wouldn't be allowed to say who he was? So if he was Amy, he couldn't say so, but he wanted ppl to know he was civ so he offered to roles that he was not with similsr reason for surviving.

but maybe you are right and he wouldn't do that and he is indeed the Master.

Hosts Is it allowed for a player to say "I am either A or B"?

MovingPictures07 wrote:I do think you might be onto something, Chris. Honestly, I was starting to wonder about Snow Dog as D8 developed and I was dead, because he is vastly different from earlier, civvie Snow Dog 1.0 who was very unsure of himself -- and then, together with Bass, was trying to push Hedge being the recruiter, and I don't think I saw any real reason other than the obvious Rox-Hedge connection which doesn't make sense to me. This would have been maybe to keep heat off of their teammate, Sabie?

I am still unsure. My worry is that Chris is Amy Pond. My bigger worry is that he is the Master. As for Hedge....well it's a hunch. Not absolutely sure of it but what can one do? I've been told i follow other people leads. Well i've been doing that since Snow dog 1.0 and look what happene
d to me there. If I don't have any ideas myself of course i follow other peoples suspicions. Always have. always will.

SD 1 found it hard to get in the game. Big cast, new personalities, I had not played a while and i was rusty. i got lynched for that.
Now there are fewer here and i've warmed up.

MovingPictures07 wrote:That's a really intriguing case, Chris, there actually seems to be some good substance there.

Do you think that maybe team Cyber role checked Enrique or Made really early on, and then checked the other?

Linki: Also, Chris, why did you mention Amy Pond? I thought you were claiming to have Sarah Jane or Jack Harkness's role.

HE claims that. I call it BS

Chris wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:Well I think there is more than one recruiter. I think Hedgeowl is one. For all I know you are another or one of the secret roles. For now though my bet is you are The Master.
You think Hedgeowl is a recruiter, and you think that I can also be one, or a secret role.

Secret roles:

Lucy Saxon - That was MM, not me.

The Recruiter - According to you, that's Hedgie

??? - According to you, me. And you say that it's a recruiter role as well?

But what happened to me being Amy Pond or The Master?

Shit, you've found me out.

I'm a night killing, NK surviving, recruiting, vote manipulator with a secret role.

You guys are all fucked.

No. I still think you are the Master. i was just being you and coming up with multiple ideas. for my next trick I will accuse everyone of being bad.

Well I think there is more than one recruiter. I think Hedgeowl is one. For all I know you are another or one of the secret roles. For now though my bet is you are The Master.

Chris wrote:Snow... please read my posts from last night.

But, to save you some time, Hedgie was the last vote for MetalMarsh the day he got lynched. He was recruited. So what you are saying is, Hedgie recruited MetalMarsh, and then lynched him rather than vote for Epig?

Do I have that right?

I'm not saying she recruited MM, I'm saying she recruited Roxy. Why one recruiter?

Chris wrote:Bass, about your vote last night...

Do you see how the way you voted without discussion, and then left, making it impossible for you to change your vote, looks bad?

Do you realize that you put a vote on Hedgie, accusing her of being the recruiter, and there's basically no chance that she is?

No chance? Why this confidence? I think there is every chance. Has she recruited you?

@Dom. I don't know why you think I suddenly chose to vote Chris. He is the master I think and voted accordingly. He claims to be Capt Jack or sarah jane. How can he be allowed to claim that? is it allowed? Well it is if it isn't true!

He is the Master....or Amy. But i think Master.

Hey, welcome back MP!!! Glad you are back in the game.

Chris wrote:Doing a re-read on Snow Dog.

Interesting stuff.

Will share soon, but it's not looking good for him.

Bullshit.

Votes Chris

Chris wrote:
sabie12 wrote:I'm voting chris he's fighting way too hard against me and I haven't done anything crazy suspicious
So me coming after you makes me bad? I just want to know why you're voting me...

Also, can you tell me why you were on to Made so well that you voted for him on days 2 and 3, but then changed your mind, and voted for Rico on days 4 & 5? Keep in mind, that when you switched your vote from Made to Rico, that was before we knew Made was the unlynchable role.

So, how'd you know?

LINKI @ Snow:

You're right, Strax would have failed vs The Master. Then I should survive this lynch. Only, I won't. What are you going to say when I flip civ?

You are fighting like I would. IF you turn up Civ I will be sorry of course. Nothing is guaranteed is it? I feel more confident on the case on you than on the Epi case. That's it. Gotta go with that.

Chris....i like you. I'd be sad to see you go. But I think you have to.

linki

easy.Rory saved you. And Strax would also have failed against the Master. It works both ways. But as ypu are denying being Amy...

Chris wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:I thought it was simple enough. Chip away at him now!
Oh, I get what you were saying there...

No chipping away. If you lynch me, I die. And I'll turn up civvie.

One of the two roles I said I'd be.

i do not believe that. You are either Amy pond or The master. I believe the latter

I think it is you that has fucked up Chris. I am on to you.

I am sleeping soon so will have to vote someone and the master bothers me most. Chris, i'm sorry but you are the best bet for the master. Oh hang on..if you are the Master you only have one survive left and so are easily killable. Which is why you asked me what I meant by "unkillable" ( although i meant difficult to kll) I think that makes my mind up. I am dense or you are the Master.

I thought it was simple enough. Chip away at him now!

Chris wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:I can see the point of a Chris vote. He could be the master and if so better to get the failed attempts out of the way early. Leave it too late and we'll be most of us dead and The Master will be unkillable. The sooner we chip away at him the better I feel. I don't want another Smaug scenario.
Why would The Master be unkillable?

Because be not enough time left to kill him.there would

Chris wrote:I am not The Master.

rey wasn't playing day 1. The Master made a kill night one. I replaced in on day 2.

How can you say he wasn't playing? I certainly remember posts from him.

I can see the point of a Chris vote. He could be the master and if so better to get the failed attempts out of the way early. Leave it too late and we'll be most of us dead and The Master will be unkillable. The sooner we chip away at him the better I feel. I don't want another Smaug scenario.

This is asshattery isn't it.

On with the game (although the shine has gone off it now)

....and where was the blackmail?

I don't feel I have been "bitchslapped"? I feel i've had a conversation with a prick.

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