The Syndicate

MP. Ask for your money back.

zeek wrote:So, Chris and keys, you don't buy DF's hints?

I reread DF. I don't see them.

Did I defend sabie too? I don't even remember tbh

And I talked about bass when people asked me about him.

Zeek. I only mentioned bass, to my recollection, at lynch times. I was showing my thought processes and why i wasn't going to vote for him. That is all. Even though he's turned up cyber I still think the case on him at the time was pretty feeble.

Dom you are correct. I have been saying. You cannot trust anyone.

Hey keys! Thanks. That post you made about me defending bass is a post i would have made last night if it hadn't been so late and I'd not been so damned tired. And that is my problem with this game. The polls have been ending at four thirty in the morning and that just screws me. I've had to defend myself when tired and with an eye on the clock. I'll be glad when this game is over (great game though hosts)
I've got a crappy keyboard that sticks. i post late at night in bed in poor light and get frustrated. You can see this in some of my responses. But stop defending me. I appreciate it but I did less with bass and I am suspect number 1.

About the hedgeowl thing MP. You don't want me to explain further? You feel it is pointless as you have made up your mind.
That post I made....I literally did not know that bass was the Cyber Controller? That post was the truth.

MovingPictures07 wrote:It's not proof, it's unnecessary wording.

Snowy adds unnecessary words to his posts like that when he's bad.

I also offered plenty of more "meaty", primary reasons that he's bad, and I stand by them, since you didn't dispute any of them (just disagree with a conclusion).

It's not ONLY that Snowy sounds insincere though, that's misreprensenting my argument. It's the fact that he casually defended Sabie, and also Bass. It's the fact, along with Bass, tried pushing Hedgeowl being the recruiter but never addressed my arguments, and the TIMING is what's most important here -- he did it to draw attention away from Sabie. It's the fact that he asserts himself with confidence in a way that he didn't earlier (I'll give him credit, he at least addressed this one, but I don't buy his explanation) and the tone of his posts don't have the same nervous civ quality that they had before.

His interactions with Bass ALONE are damning.

Do you mean where I sympathised with bass because nobody believed him? Is that wrong now? I was in the same position of being hounded.

And I thought i had addresed your arguments re Hedgie? If I havent it is remiss of me and i will.

That has been on the BBC but i didn't catch it.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Snowy, it makes you sound like Chris Traeger. :P

I'll have to Google that one.

keys56000000000 wrote:OK MP7, I has read through what you've got to say on SD and my feelings are basically that you are confusing a misguided civ for a bad guy.

SD is someone who has made mistakes. He's the victim of unfortunate circunstances. He's been frustrated, paranoid, misguided -- literally, when you declared TH was The Master and voted for him. He is not someone with a team passing him info, advice, anything. He is a lone civvie who has got stuck into this game, found himself in unfortunate circumstances, and is finding it hard to defend himself against articulate players. Of this I am convinced.

I don't know whether to be happy or sad that you are defending me. Happy because you are, but sad because you think I am not sufficiently articulate.

linki Emphasis my dear chap.

I am voting Barrowman too. I literally did not know that Bass was the Cyber Controller. Literally.

Dom wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:My thoughts on Hedgowl are well documented. The popular opinion is that DF is the Master.

Sorry. i don't really know what you are getting at.
Would you consider these players engaged? Would you consider them to be contributing? Would you consider them suspicious?
Hedgeowl: 118
Gotrees: 93
DFaraday: 66
Bass_The_Clever: 58
Elohcin: 55
nijuukyugou: 42

Bass and DF -- to an extent Hedgeowl-- are the only ones being seriously discussed. I don't disagree with a bass vote-- I just found this very surprising.

I think Hedge does the minimum required. Doesn't contribute much.
Gotrees. hardly any contribution. likes to help in night polls.
DF. Again, not much from him. Pops up now and then. But I think he is often this way.
Bass. Almost certainly bad now. Probably getting my next vote.
Elo. We really are not getting anything worthwhile from her. Possible baddie I suppose.
Nij. That is lower than I expected. No opinion but worth a look at.

My thoughts on Hedgowl are well documented. The popular opinion is that DF is the Master.

Sorry. i don't really know what you are getting at.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
keys56000000000 wrote:
Chris wrote:keys & MP, what would you opinion be on where to proceed if Bass came back as a recruited Master, once lynched?
My guess is that The Master can't be recruited, and at any rate, I don't think Bass is The Master. But I firmly believe Bass will come back bad, and then I say we look at the other people we suspect. My suspects remain the same, I say we lynch DF next.

And I completely agree about ignoring MM. He hasn't given us any infomation on this recruiting team, which is more worrying than reassuring.
What do you want from me? I can only tell you so much without breaking rules, and I've tried dropping hints.

Have you? I will reread.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
zeek wrote:You've not done much to reassure us your on the civ side, MM, and if you weren't still recruited you'd be helping us by suspecting your former teammate(s).
Sorry that I don't have names. I had a spreadsheet at one point, but I haven't kept up with it since before I was lynched. I didn't think I would be around very long, but I clearly misread that.

Who do you think the Master is?

Who recruited you?

Dom wrote:
keys56000000000 wrote:Opinions on the quiet players? Gotrees? Elohcin? Nijuu?
I asked for those and was laughed out of the room. Maybe you'll have more luck!

I think....who was it, Juliets? Well, she made a goods observation about Gotrees. In that he was super helpful with his poll choice info but nothing much else.

Is Bass the Master?

Chris wrote:keys.

Oh yes

Three Amigos. MP, SVS and....who was it?

zeek wrote:So could you Chris, and your role is a good one to recruit.

Snowy, I guess he could regenerate later but I was dead for four cycles. If I was the master, the game would be so unfair it'd be untrue.

I am not claiming you are the master. We know why you were rezzed. Just thinking aloud about why BWT made it this way. Irrelevant really.

I don't understand why the Master cannot be killed like the Doctor and regenerate later.

S~V~S wrote:
Chris wrote:I think it makes no sense to recruit Bass or Snow Dog. They've been in the spotlight since the Sabie lynch. Why would you recruit someone who would stand such a chance of being lynched?

You wouldn't.

S~V~S wrote: LINKI, An NK recruitment death is also possible.
A what?
An NK of a recruited pwersob. An NK recruitment death.

And perhaps Roxys son was recruited early, since Roxy was a recruit herself.

Link I, so can you.

Roxy's son? Who, Bass?

BTW everyone, last night's Doctor Who was one of the worst episodes I have ever seen. Lowest point of this series by far. Get some writers who can write SF Moffett!!!

I have had my head in the sand regarding bass. A switch and then a block. Can he survive a further lynch?

Great game though if a bit stressing and when I was posting this morning I had been drinking and was sooooo tired. How do you manage it Zeek?

zeek wrote:
zeek wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:Kind of I guess. But not as certain as I am of Hedge and now i am getting convinced of DF.

Zeek! You are one of the ones I trust...am i wrong too?
What makes you more sure of those two, over Bass?

I'm glad you trust me but I feel like if I disagree with you you'll say I've been recruited as well. I haven't, I'm the same old loveable zeek.

nty

I have played with Hedge plentyi of times so i know her but the clincher for me was...she hadn't mentioned me as suspicious all game then suddenly its "Snow DOg" . just felt forced to me. Thev right thing to say..whatever. It pinged the hell out of me. she is bad. I hate this keyboard

DF. Ok not certain of him at all but he seems to fit the bill and the Mast is a prority. The cases on him seem sound. it appeals. seems right.

Bass. i havev read his posts and i don't see it. He could be bad and if he's lynched I hope you are right. Not my top prority though But i hardly know him so maybe i am not seeing the case. think I pkayed with hi once on another site.

zeek wrote:You never answered me, Snowy

What was it? i feel attacked from all quarters i missed it.(then sleep)

MovingPictures07 wrote:
keys56000000000 wrote:MP, you have plenty of evidence that Snow Dog is a misguided civilian. Being a misguided civ =/= being bad. What do you mean, Snow linked to Bass? I must have missed that. Although, I am skimming a lot atm. >_>

linki: whose vote is worth three
His behavior is totally different than it was when he was a misguided civilian though. And he's linked to Bass, just read both of my links in that post and you'll see what I mean.

But it doesn't matter, either Strax NK Snowy or we'll get him another day, so you have time.

Well. As i said b efore but i'll repeat(why bother im wasting my time) I am not good at the beginning of a big game there were loads of new people blah blah blah blah blah blah took awhile to get into it blah blah blah blah blah blah blah (this is becoming like an MP post) when I came back i had more of a handle on things blah blah....................................................................................................................................zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Voted DF.

Ok I'm done here. I expected to be lynched soon as the mafia is in control. Some bad info is being fed out there. i have never seen MP so certain before so something is up. Truly. think on.

Chris wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:Well i am going to vote DF or Hedge. The master needs to go. i won't vote bass even though evryone says he's cyber (you could be right) but the Master is the greater threat.
Snow, don't waste your vote on Hedgie.

Vote for DF.

If you vote for Hedgie, I'll be forced to change my vote to Bass.

Linki: Logic? Logic would indicate that you have some form of evidence to base a theory on.

What you sound like you're using is a guess, or an opinion.

That doesn't work.

True. It seems logical to me though. It's what i'd do for balance. IF Davros is in the game then you must have a cyber counterpart.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Well, I've said all I have to say on the matter. Bass and Snowy are pretty much Cyber, it's just a matter of either or both of them being recruited. Fingers crossed.

Still dont know what behaviour you were talking about but whatever.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:How is "We trust the Doc right?" equal to "You've been recruited", said with absolute confidence.

It isn't.
That first was a pisstake. can you not see that?
Then why the hell did you follow my vote? Mutual interest? But now The Master's been recruited?

Oh for........because recruited or not you will still want to be rid of the master.......and for a moment...I admit.....i did trust you to be true.

oh damn this keyboard!!!!GFFFFFFFFRRRRRRRRRRRR

Making crap up. Oh that's a good one.

Chris wrote:Snow, how the hell can you justify TWO recruiter roles?
What are you basing this belief on?

Logic

MovingPictures07 wrote:How is "We trust the Doc right?" equal to "You've been recruited", said with absolute confidence.

It isn't.

That first was a pisstake. can you not see that?

Well i am going to vote DF or Hedge. The master needs to go. i won't vote bass even though evryone says he's cyber (you could be right) but the Master is the greater threat.

I didn't contradict myself MP. As you know i also said whether recruited or not you would want the Master dead. I said that. its in a post.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:There are two unknown roles in my opinion. John lumic and Davros. bth recruiters.

Recruiters for the win you dumbasses. lol
Scare tactics.

You can't even give one single proof of evidence why I'm "recruited" yet you think saying it over and over again will somehow make it right. But you're wrong. I haven't been recruited.

Keep saying it.

zeek wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:Is everyone here recruited ffs?
What are you even talking about?

You and Bass couldn't be any more bad; it's not even funny. So that makes everyone else recruited?
i don't know about bass, but show me how I'm bad. Where does this consensus come from? what evidence? or is it bad info? What trickery is afoot? I despair I really do. No one engages with me besides Chris. I answer accusations and am ignored. this sucks so much.
For me, you seem to align yourself with Bass and he seems suspect. Do you not find him suspicious?

Kind of I guess. But not as certain as I am of Hedge and now i am getting convinced of DF.

Zeek! You are one of the ones I trust...am i wrong too?

There are two unknown roles in my opinion. John lumic and Davros. bth recruiters.

Recruiters for the win you dumbasses. lol

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:Is everyone here recruited ffs?
What are you even talking about?

You and Bass couldn't be any more bad; it's not even funny. So that makes everyone else recruited?
i don't know about bass, but show me how I'm bad. Where does this consensus come from? what evidence? or is it bad info? What trickery is afoot? I despair I really do. No one engages with me besides Chris. I answer accusations and am ignored. this sucks so much.
Are you kidding me? We've had this conversation multiple times.

Watch, I'll even refresh your memory. Just give me a minute here.

Please. dont patronise with me. ive waited for your reply about my behaviour during some lynch or other TWICE!!!

You are so recruited..who was it hedge?

basically MP you do not believe any of my answers but yoy never answr my questions. if you are not recruited I'll eat my ...........dunno what

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:Is everyone here recruited ffs?
What are you even talking about?

You and Bass couldn't be any more bad; it's not even funny. So that makes everyone else recruited?

i don't know about bass, but show me how I'm bad. Where does this consensus come from? what evidence? or is it bad info? What trickery is afoot? I despair I really do. No one engages with me besides Chris. I answer accusations and am ignored. this sucks so much.

Is everyone here recruited ffs?

DF has been mentioned a few times this thread so he has kinda been on the back burner for me as an avenue of interest. I can see him being the Master with the way he's played. Unobtrusive. Better to kill the master than a team. A team may have many people but they only have one kill. The master is one (unless recruited) and kills all alone. So he is the high priority target imo.

The Three Amigos.

Thanks, Chris.

Hedgeowl wrote:bwt and Bea, you have done an amazing job with this game. Thank you for all your hard work on such an awesome theme.

Also guys, I have a fever today, so won't be around much except to check in as needed.

All I can say Bass is that you are wrong about me. You didnt give me much to work with either in defense, since you feel I am bad, but haven't presented any evidence. I tend to prefer vote analyzing though when possible and you, Snow, and DF are those that crick my brow as sabies teammes currently. After the last lynch and switch I see no reason to wait either. I am interested in looking at DF again and Snow, but for today Bass it is.

Voting Bass

Now even you are mentioning my name? You are bad Hedge.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Why because how I voted?

Don't bother man, they've made there minds up and ain't nothing gonna change it.

For the record, I didn't complain about Chris

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