The Syndicate

Matt wrote:Coasting? Ha! You have no idea.

TH, we both know you lied lied lied about the Riddler. We both know it. You also came up with a pretty big whopper of a tale on Day 7, of which I won't go into details because I don't think I'm allowed to, but yeah, liar.

Anyway, as I did the day before with Glorfy, I'm going to be looking elsewhere because simply nobody else in town wants to see you for what you are. I'm not even quite sure...mafia or inmate?...def not civ or civ indy, though. If town ever wises up and looks your way, I'll be sure to plop a vote on you again.

Turnips, if not you, what do you think about Typh? I've been suss of him ever since he confirmed your Riddler tale (which, in turn, also makes Typh a liar). I notice he's on your list, so I'm curious whether you're willing to pull the trigger on him or if you'll try to lead the lynch against me instead.

Matt wrote:I concur that nobody is agreeing with me on you and therefore, I'm willing to look elsewhere. Believe it or not, I find it better for the town that I look elsewhere. If I keep harping on you, nobody will want to lynch you cuz I'm me, so perhaps you'll slip up in some other way and somebody else will start gunning for you.

So you think Typh is a good lynch, yes? What do you think of Bullz?

Do you believe Mac is who he says he is, and the Mafia is just letting him live so a player like myself could point that out? I doubt it. I don't have very good feelings about Mac, either.

Elaborate on your feelings on Dom, please. He has come at me several times, each time I respond to his inquiries, then he's like "cool beans", only to go after me the next day again. At one point he even made a self admitted mistake coming after me, yet he still susses me. Weird.

(be back in about 30, runnin' up to the store)

Matt wrote:
Glorfy, if you come back to read this, I hope you change your mind. There's always going to be games where you're civvie and people want to lynch your ass anyway. My favorite game of all time, World Reborn, I was civvie and the lynch mob had their way with me, but oh well, them's the breaks.

MacDougall wrote:

Matt wrote:

MacDougall wrote:I'm not sure how you could disagree since your point is exactly why I think Mafia isn't for him. If you expect defences at face value to be accepted then there is no game and if your reaction to that is as emotional as his was I would encourage him to not play because it's not healthy.

Please. In this very game, one of our vets is talking about taking his toys and going home after the game ends, in multiple games I play people threaten to quit cuz nobody likes them (I think you've done this several times)...haha what are you talking about?

Glorf's good to go. He'll realize how much fun he had defending himself and realize he's one of us now. Muhahahaha!

Glorfindel quit a game as a bad guy because he didn't want to lie to people. Please stfu.

S~V~S wrote:

Golden wrote:

Golden wrote:I'd be willing to vote bubbles. It would actually be a pretty good test... if she is bad, and her team isn't gone, I think I've been wrong about glorfindel all along. If she isn't bad, then what we are losing is someone who has really been too busy to play in this game and so isn't really playing.

How do you feel about this, SVS?

I already voted. I would ask everyone else. I will say that that was the baddiest vote I have seen in, well, rather recently actually, but still it was pretty bad.

Bubbles wrote:wow i didnt expect to get a response so quick! no im not attempted to save glorfindel (i assume thats where you guys are going?) and i HAVE been on the thread the last week just not posting, i have been busy, trying to not be totally absent from the thread. hope that explains it. i doubt it will but oh well

DharmaHelper wrote:Well god damn.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Dom wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Dom wrote:I'd like to hear actual thoughts from Matt, Enrique, and Dharmahelper too.

Thoughts on what.

Suspects.
Literally anything but complaining.

Golden wrote:

Dom wrote:Can I just say the amount of role claiming in this game is getting tiresome?

I'm not role claiming cop. But I will continue to reject false logic for why I can't be.

Come on
Golden, that's some BS.

MovingPictures07 wrote:And for the record, I think you're a wonderful and a very nice person, Glorf, and it's been great to get to know you. But I think you're not a townie this game.

This is how I feel.

Turnip Head wrote:That's a touch unfair MP. Glorfindel does seem to be suspecting Typh.

But why tho?
I've been asking for days.

Have you read my posts

DharmaHelper wrote:

Dom wrote:I'd like to hear actual thoughts from Matt, Enrique, and Dharmahelper too.

Thoughts on what.

Golden wrote:

Dom wrote:Can I just say the amount of role claiming in this game is getting tiresome?

I'm not role claiming cop. But I will continue to reject false logic for why I can't be.

MovingPictures07 wrote:And for the record, I think you're a wonderful and a very nice person, Glorf, and it's been great to get to know you. But I think you're not a townie this game.

Turnip Head wrote:That's a touch unfair MP. Glorfindel does seem to be suspecting Typh.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Dom wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Dom wrote: Is that why you had 200+ posts at that time and have ~380 now?

MovingPictures07 wrote:Wild theory time:

Is it possible that Golden wants to expose Batman because he's been targeted by a hallucinogen by Scarecrow, and now he needs Batman dead to win?

Are you scarecrow?

Why do you think either of these questions should be asked?

Why don't you just answer the questions if everyone should be questioned?

Because I don't understand why you're even asking these questions, or why you think they have any merit whatsoever. It's like asking "what color is the sky, MP?", except not quite that blatant. What are you really going to uncover about me by asking these questions?

Rather, I get the interpretation that you're just asking them to seem as though you're involved and hunting, when you ask things like this. It's possible that's why I read you as mafia so often.

Typhoony wrote:Each named civvie role has basically been accounted for with you Golden. Now, does that mean you are claiming Renee Montoya?

You have shown in the thread that you have roles in mind for Batman, Alfred, Robin, Gordon and Harvery Bullock. Guess who's left... Renee Montoya. Maybe you could be one of the cops, but you've not shown any interest in lynching the Inmates, even though you believe Glorfindel is one. All that's left for me to conclude is that you are either Renee Montoya or not civ at all... and I would guess the latter.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Dom wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Dom wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:With that said, I think everyone should be questioned and examined, and we shouldn't take anything or anyone's town status for granted. Regarding my own play this game, I realize I have become much less focused and intense; that's my fault, and I apologize. I just don't have the time to put more into this game given my current RL and other "free time" obligations I have.

What would you say to the accusation that you only played hard enough to get suspicion off you and are now coasting?

I certainly wouldn't fault anyone for thinking that, especially because it's partially true and I'll be the first to admit it. I misjudged how active this game was really going to be and how busy I would be. I really didn't have the time to play before my failed lynch, but I felt compelled to spend more of my free time ensuring certain things would happen and actually trying to actively hunt. Simultaneously though, I just have way more things taking up available free time than before my no lynch (when I mostly just had this game happening, whereas hosting Turf Wars now is taking up a buttload of time). Nonetheless, I won't sit here and lie and say it's not easier to sit back and coast more now that my suspicion has faded, become less invested in the game, and just not care as much about hunting as a result. Because all of that is true. I lack any sense of urgency at this point. Probably not fair to the rest of my civilian team, but it is what it is, especially since the hosts are lacking replacements (and there are about 4 or 5 players who would need them before me). I promise to try to recapture what I can going forward, but I also recognize my time and motivation limitations enough to be forthcoming with all of this.

Is that why you had 200+ posts at that time and have ~380 now?

MovingPictures07 wrote:Wild theory time:

Is it possible that Golden wants to expose Batman because he's been targeted by a hallucinogen by Scarecrow, and now he needs Batman dead to win?

Are you scarecrow?

Why do you think either of these questions should be asked?

Turnip Head wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

Matt wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

Matt wrote:K Turnips. What do you think of Mac still being around?

I'm not a collection of vegetables but I was under the impression that the role Mac claimed would be basically vanilla now and hardly worth wasting a kill on? That would explain why he's still around.

What role are you assuming he claimed? I'm pretty sure he took responsibility for killing Zeebs, which leaves one role, which is not vanilla.

Zebra was killed by Bullock and I'd missed the fact he could track someone at night:
Detective Harvey Bullock
Bullock tracks or kills someone each Night. He has just one kill. Better make it a good one.

I somehow skipped over a bit and just read "he has one kill", leading me to assume that with his kill cashed in he was now powerless. Still, maybe the baddies just don't think a tracker is too big of a threat. Or maybe they don't buy his claim.

Lol the Matt in me thinks Bullz might be bad and didn't realize he should have killed Mac

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Dom wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:With that said, I think everyone should be questioned and examined, and we shouldn't take anything or anyone's town status for granted. Regarding my own play this game, I realize I have become much less focused and intense; that's my fault, and I apologize. I just don't have the time to put more into this game given my current RL and other "free time" obligations I have.

What would you say to the accusation that you only played hard enough to get suspicion off you and are now coasting?

I certainly wouldn't fault anyone for thinking that, especially because it's partially true and I'll be the first to admit it. I misjudged how active this game was really going to be and how busy I would be. I really didn't have the time to play before my failed lynch, but I felt compelled to spend more of my free time ensuring certain things would happen and actually trying to actively hunt. Simultaneously though, I just have way more things taking up available free time than before my no lynch (when I mostly just had this game happening, whereas hosting Turf Wars now is taking up a buttload of time). Nonetheless, I won't sit here and lie and say it's not easier to sit back and coast more now that my suspicion has faded, become less invested in the game, and just not care as much about hunting as a result. Because all of that is true. I lack any sense of urgency at this point. Probably not fair to the rest of my civilian team, but it is what it is, especially since the hosts are lacking replacements (and there are about 4 or 5 players who would need them before me). I promise to try to recapture what I can going forward, but I also recognize my time and motivation limitations enough to be forthcoming with all of this.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Wild theory time:

Is it possible that Golden wants to expose Batman because he's been targeted by a hallucinogen by Scarecrow, and now he needs Batman dead to win?

MovingPictures07 wrote:With that said, I think everyone should be questioned and examined, and we shouldn't take anything or anyone's town status for granted. Regarding my own play this game, I realize I have become much less focused and intense; that's my fault, and I apologize. I just don't have the time to put more into this game given my current RL and other "free time" obligations I have.

Matt wrote:I'm tryin' to get things done, Dom. I'm tryin'.

You still like Turnips? I've never seen such a bad and/or indy player shove in my face how bad and/or indy they are, yet nobody wants to get behind a Turnips lynch. Does everyone still think he's Alfred or something?

Going back to another "confirmed civ", why isn't Mac dead? Sorry, but that doesn't make any sense for him to still be breathing. Derp.

Matt wrote:Chillin'. You?

DFaraday wrote:I kind of get what Glorfindel is saying. Players like Mac, Golden, and MP are typically the most vocal players, and tend to spearhead lynches and the general direction of the thread. If a baddie team wants to manipulate the thread it would make sense to take out players who might lead a lynch on them. I don't think that's a reason to suspect any of those players are bad though.

Glorf, why do you suspect Typh? I feel like he hasn't been trying to help the civ cause very much, but I haven't seen anything specifically suspicious about him.

I still think one of the Mac voters is probably bad. Aside from SVS, whom I still think could be bad, I'll look over the others tomorrow.

Glorfindel wrote:

Dom wrote:RIP Sorsh.

Glorfindel, are you still looking at a Typhoony lynch?

There's a couple of things I'd like to re-assess but I certainly believe there is a case to be made for Typhoony. We are well in the mid-game now and after seven Day and Night phases, the core group of experienced and influential players from this site remains for all intents and purposes, intact. Some of you (e.g. yourself, DH, MP and many others) would've I thought, made first rate NK choices by a Mafia team and yet, they've not taken out any really vocal and as I say influential players - I think that is indicative and what Matt has been trying to tell us the last few Days. Having said that, I think I wouldn't be doing my job if I turned a blind eye to a player that I believe has been flying under the radar for the last seven days and nights.

I know a good many of you are suspicious of me and I'm yet to fully understand why but I have no intention of abandoning my brothers in arms to the Mafia in this game.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Enrique wrote:dh who should we vote for

Baddies.

Golden wrote:

Dom wrote:Golden were you recruited

No

Have already answered this question before.

I'm not bad in any way shape or form, and I think there is a point I can make to you and TH in particular that should assist you in realising I am not Glorfindel's teammate.

In World Reborn, who was the one who kept cautioning about doing anything obvious? Who was the one that got very tense about our plan to lynch Metalmarsh because it could expose us all? Who was the one panicking they would be obviously linked to you when the plan failed? Me. I was the one who was really concerned about the plan making it obvious who we are. It should also be noted that part of the reason we won that game is because I did not seem obviously linked to any of you.

Glorfindel wrote:

Dom wrote:I'm sorry sprit. :/

Turnip Head wrote:A sprityo lynch feels like the easiest thing we could possibly do, but hey look how the Floyd lynch turned out. I'm not convinced this will be a great result for us and will only serve to rid the thread of his idiosyncratic weirdness. I feel like we're afraid to make the wrong choice so we're just going with whatever is easiest.

Voting for Glorfy. If he's civ I want him to stop telling me that he's town and SHOW me that he's town.

I agree with the underlined sentiment entirely.

Show you that I'm Town, Dom? TH? I'm told that I'm suspicious because of unsubstantiated claims that my playstyle is similar to when I was Mafia in Star Wars. I'm told that I'm not suspicious because I'm not 'hunting' Mafia? Can you not see the blatant hypocrisy of what you're saying? I presented a strong case against MM and apart from two players who at least considered my case, it was completely ignored. I'm being condemned for voting for Sprityo when any number of players voted for him but they're not suspicious. Take for example, Typhoony. The guy has numerous posts and nearly every single one of them devoid of substance. His votes are unsubstantiated. Where is there any questioning of him? Where is the interrogation of the type to which I've been subjected? And you still want me to buy that you two are impartial? I think not.

Golden wrote:

Dom wrote:Nice NO U golden.


I'll think on this.

I don't think TH is bad in the slightest. You won't get me no u'ing him.

I'm asking TH to think about his own behaviour before he judges me for mine.

On the other hand, Dom, you were VERY eager to jump on me.

Golden wrote:Yeah, clearly that didn't register with me as a likely exaplanation at all.

I don't understand why a civilian would give up. It's not in me.

Turnip Head wrote:A sprityo lynch feels like the easiest thing we could possibly do, but hey look how the Floyd lynch turned out. I'm not convinced this will be a great result for us and will only serve to rid the thread of his idiosyncratic weirdness. I feel like we're afraid to make the wrong choice so we're just going with whatever is easiest.

Voting for Glorfy. If he's civ I want him to stop telling me that he's town and SHOW me that he's town.

DharmaHelper wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:It's mad late and I promise I'll do the legwork of this at some point but check this shit out:

I bet if we cross reference the list of players who voted to go to locations other than the ones sabie went to with the list of say, Mac or Sprityo or w/e voter, we will end up with a pretty meaty case for her teammate(s).

I have not listened toany of them since the second. I know little about this theme, and they pretty much went over my head.