The Syndicate

DharmaHelper wrote:

MacDougall wrote:Nah you know what I ain't about to punk Dharma like that. I've got nothing on him except deduction and gut. He's aight.

Deduction and gut are two diametrically opposed things

Glorfindel wrote: You can deny it all you like Dom but your mind was made up. Your most recent post (above) proves that in spades. You've twisted circumstances (such as my availability and legitimate issues I was experiencing) to give credibility to a case that is frankly non-existent. I offerred my G2H reads and I gave them. I've done my best to support my lynch choices with some semblance of arguments but that has not any point been sufficient to quell your suspicions of me. Others have not cooperated with you anywhere near as much as I have and where is your scrutiny of them? As I said earlier, nothing I could say is ever going to convince you. I trust the remainder of the Town can exercise a little logic and objectivity for the vote this Day phase.

Glorfindel wrote:

Dom wrote:

Glorfindel wrote:OK, thanks for the consideration of allowing me to address my technical issues. I'm afraid Dom that I could not reply to you earlier. My keyboard gave up the ghost and would only work intermittently and it took ages to type anything. I was at work on a break when I sent that last message and as much as I'd have wanted to reply to you, it simply wasn't going to happen - I appreciate your patience.

Basically, I agree with what's been said already - the well of newer players being Mafia has dried up. On the law of averages, you'd have to assume that there are one or two more experienced players involved as part of the Mafia families.

On that note, some time ago I was playing a Mafia game where (as Town) I'd concocted this theory on the guilt of one of my fellow players based on their use of certain punctuation in their posts. I was absolutely convinced of their guilt and put my case to the rest of the players in that game. Needless to say I got laughed out of town and rightly so, I was completely wrong. Now please don't misunderstand me here - I fully respect the ability of each and everyone of you, my fellow players and in particular S-V-S. I know we had that run-in early on over my post that you thought was too carefully worded. I think that case was pretty thin (more so than the one I described above) and what's more, it was wrong.

I found your argument with Golden interesting and for better or worse, I think his judgement is pretty good from all accounts (after all, you don't win all those Socky's for nothing). And then, in the dying shadows of dawn, you started accusing me again. You said that you would vote for me because I am not direct in answering questions - and that may be true. I do the best I can to contribute fully and respect each and everyone of you in the face (sometimes) of some considerable provocation. You would do well not to misjudge me for that.

In terms of my vote right now, I think it will be S-V-S. I have an open mind and if someone comes up with a better case before tomorrow morning, I'll happily consider it.

Side stepping my question for four paragraphs and then spending two sentences answering my question is one way to make me think you don't really want to answer my question.

I've side-stepped nothing my friend. You asked me to nominate for whom I will vote and I've answered your question. I've tried to give you (and others) insight to my thinking on this matter (with plenty of notice prior to the EoD for your consideration). It is apparent to me that your mind is made up about me Dom and I promise you that you're wrong. I doubt there is anything I can say to change your mind but I trust my fellow Town colleagues will not fall so blindly for the poor excuse of a case against me as you have.

Glorfindel wrote:OK, thanks for the consideration of allowing me to address my technical issues. I'm afraid Dom that I could not reply to you earlier. My keyboard gave up the ghost and would only work intermittently and it took ages to type anything. I was at work on a break when I sent that last message and as much as I'd have wanted to reply to you, it simply wasn't going to happen - I appreciate your patience.

Basically, I agree with what's been said already - the well of newer players being Mafia has dried up. On the law of averages, you'd have to assume that there are one or two more experienced players involved as part of the Mafia families.

On that note, some time ago I was playing a Mafia game where (as Town) I'd concocted this theory on the guilt of one of my fellow players based on their use of certain punctuation in their posts. I was absolutely convinced of their guilt and put my case to the rest of the players in that game. Needless to say I got laughed out of town and rightly so, I was completely wrong. Now please don't misunderstand me here - I fully respect the ability of each and everyone of you, my fellow players and in particular S-V-S. I know we had that run-in early on over my post that you thought was too carefully worded. I think that case was pretty thin (more so than the one I described above) and what's more, it was wrong.

I found your argument with Golden interesting and for better or worse, I think his judgement is pretty good from all accounts (after all, you don't win all those Socky's for nothing). And then, in the dying shadows of dawn, you started accusing me again. You said that you would vote for me because I am not direct in answering questions - and that may be true. I do the best I can to contribute fully and respect each and everyone of you in the face (sometimes) of some considerable provocation. You would do well not to misjudge me for that.

In terms of my vote right now, I think it will be S-V-S. I have an open mind and if someone comes up with a better case before tomorrow morning, I'll happily consider it.

S~V~S wrote:I think he corrected someone for spelling his name wrong.

S~V~S wrote:

Dom wrote:

juliets wrote:

Dom wrote:So glorf, you wanna lynch anyone or nah?


Juliets, having played star wars, I'd say this play isn't necessarily dissimilar.

Ok Dom, I know it feels different when you're playing than when you're simply reading like I did. I just thought there was more frustration and meltdown than in this game but will give weight to your read having been there.

Personally, I haven't read Glorf as "melt down"-y

Glorfindel wrote:

Dom wrote:So glorf, you wanna lynch anyone or nah?


Juliets, having played star wars, I'd say this play isn't necessarily dissimilar.

Yes, Dom - I do. I am experiencing some technical difficulties here at the moment that are making posting incredibly annoying. I am trying to address these issues as quickly as I am able but given that I want to post a considered case to support my vote, I trust that you will bear with me in this.

I also appreciate your perspective on the comparison of my posts and playstyle in previous games but I would counsel Juliets not to abandon her views too easily. As bea commented to me some days ago, sometimes having that 'distance' from people and events can prove more revealing than you might think.

So... who? If you can write this post you can surely write a name of someone you'd like to lynch and a few reasons why.

Exactly so; if I vote for Glorfindel, it will not be for his compartive meltdown status between whatever game and this. I am the last person to judge someone based on this sort of thing. If I vote for him, it will be becasue he is not very direct when asked a question, and he attempts to couch suspicions of him as being based on his demeanor rather than on his content when that is not necessarily the case.

juliets wrote:

Dom wrote:So glorf, you wanna lynch anyone or nah?


Juliets, having played star wars, I'd say this play isn't necessarily dissimilar.

Ok Dom, I know it feels different when you're playing than when you're simply reading like I did. I just thought there was more frustration and meltdown than in this game but will give weight to your read having been there.

Glorfindel wrote:

Dom wrote:So glorf, you wanna lynch anyone or nah?


Juliets, having played star wars, I'd say this play isn't necessarily dissimilar.

Yes, Dom - I do. I am experiencing some technical difficulties here at the moment that are making posting incredibly annoying. I am trying to address these issues as quickly as I am able but given that I want to post a considered case to support my vote, I trust that you will bear with me in this.

I also appreciate your perspective on the comparison of my posts and playstyle in previous games but I would counsel Juliets not to abandon her views too easily. As bea commented to me some days ago, sometimes having that 'distance' from people and events can prove more revealing than you might think.

Matt wrote:

Dom wrote:Matt, where you at?

Hey Dom, how're things? School goin' okay? If Glee were to make a comeback, would you call it "Glee: The Next Generation", "Glee: Voyager", or "Glee: Deep Space Nine" ?

S~V~S wrote:

Glorfindel wrote:Also, can anyone shed any light on the acronym A.S.S may represent?

Animal Sanctuary Squad.

Can anyone shed light on why MM was killed? I don't specifically recall his suspects, so I need to reread him.

MacDougall wrote:So...

Floyd was recruited and just decided to stop playing and nobody on his team was interested enough to try to reach out to him to get him to keep playing despite him having been on the site.

Is his last partner a lurker too?

Turnip Head wrote:

Dom wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:We could always lynch Matt.

Why?

Joking :P

Dom wrote:Also, TH, were you serious the other night about making a case on Mac?

No. The case I had in mind was against Glorfy, but rather than making a bullet point case I tried to just have a discussion about him.

Turnip Head wrote:We could always lynch Matt.

Golden wrote:

Dom wrote:

Golden wrote:Dom said he was reminded that SVS killed inactives when bad. I reminded him of a game he hosted where that didn't happen.

That's literally all that it was, until you and Enrique expressly questioned it.

....what?

She literally didn't have a chance to kill in that game. She was lynched Day 1. Why are you presenting misleading evidence?

Go read your own game, Dom. SVS convinced me and ninja to vote with her on the last day to ensure her mafia team won the game, after having plenty of opportunities to kill.

Golden wrote:Dom said he was reminded that SVS killed inactives when bad. I reminded him of a game he hosted where that didn't happen.

That's literally all that it was, until you and Enrique expressly questioned it.

Dom wrote:

Golden wrote:@Dom - in your bullets over broadway, in which SVS was bad, how many inactives did she kill?

Good question. I forgot she was bad in that game.

Golden wrote:@Dom - in your bullets over broadway, in which SVS was bad, how many inactives did she kill?

Typhoony wrote:

MacDougall wrote:

Typhoony wrote:@ Golden: baddie SVS does not vent in the thread. Maybe a little bit, but she would keep most if not all of it in the chat.

So she wouldn't, but she would.

And who's to say she didn't?

Hello I'm Mac and I'm not gonna listen to people who know what they are talking about

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Golden wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:What's the word on SVS/sabie being teammates? Golden, I saw you mention something about that.

Timing of SVS vote for Mac, mostly. I feel almost like doing a patented G-Man Balaam voting analysis. It doesn't hurt that I already felt like SVS was bad before that.

How about this little conspiracy theory then (which I realize goes against my previous declaration about SVS).

SVS likes to nightkill inactives when she is bad. Not always, but she does. Frisky Dingo is an example of this.

Bea was nightkilled by the Maroni's on Night 4, the team sabie was on. I asked this when it happened. SVS replied immediately "I don't know".

sprityo wrote:I'm done talking to Dom, this is just getting me flustered and nowhere

Golden wrote:I just went and saw Dom's points. No, I don't think SVS reaction to Mac was manipulative. I think it was her being genuinely saddened at a role hint.

DharmaHelper wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

Dom wrote:If we're talking about SVS, I think we should talk about whether or not her emotional lashing out over Mac's role claim indicates she is bad. She voted for Mac right before he claimed. She might be lashing out as a reaction of now potentially looking bad. I know SVS HATES role claims (so do I, and their use in this game does not look to be stopping), but she was a bit manipulative with her posts.
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 33#p237533
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 38#p237538
These two posts are what I'm talking about.
Now, this is not NEARLY has manipulative or guilt trip inducing as posts in A World Reborn (I'm thinking of the sad bear post), so I'm not nearly as convinced. What do we think of this?

If I had to pick who might be Sabie's teammate(s) between LoRab and SVS, I'd say maybe SVS. Between those two and Matt? I'm not liking Matt these days. I think Glorfindel is acting very bad and sprit is bad too.

You, probably more than anyone, knows how much I hate getting in trouble with MP. But OK.

Go ahead and lynch me. I won't fight back. I have no reason to.

Incredible how SVs's response to Dom's guilt trip criticism is a guilt trip.

Matt wrote:Yo peeps. Just replaced into Llama's game and will be doing my best to catch up over there before work today.

I noticed Dom has me on his suss list. Not sure why, Dom, you ask me questions and I answer and then it's done. The latest time you actually realized you made a mistake when questioning me, lulzed it off, and done. Yet I'm still suss in your opinion.

Tonight when I get home from work I'll catch up here and see what you have to say for yourself, Mr. Dom.

Also, I guess everybody thinks MP is really Wonder Boy. Okey dokey.

Turnip Head wrote:

Glorfindel wrote:Let me tell you, your credibility with me (as an individual, unrelated to this game) has taken a serious blow as a consequence of this. Let me tell you what this says to me. It says that like other players here, you're always going to support the more experienced players here over someone newer like me. The fact is, it's easier to dismiss the arguments of a newer player over those to whom you've had a lot of game exposure.

I know this was directed at Golden but you allude to it being directed at other players as well, and it saddens me. I don't think Golden is on a witch-hunt against newer players and I don't think anyone else is either. On Day 3 I led a lynch against a player I've played with on-and-off for 8 years. On Day 4, 16 players voted to lynch the creator and administrator of the site. If people are finding you suspicious, it is not because you are a newer player, and suspicions toward you are not indicative of suspicions against all new players. I hope you don't truly feel this way.

MacDougall wrote:Hey Dom, I'm just bout to settle down and scum hunt some, want to share some chips and beers?

S~V~S wrote:

Dom wrote:If we're talking about SVS, I think we should talk about whether or not her emotional lashing out over Mac's role claim indicates she is bad. She voted for Mac right before he claimed. She might be lashing out as a reaction of now potentially looking bad. I know SVS HATES role claims (so do I, and their use in this game does not look to be stopping), but she was a bit manipulative with her posts.
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 33#p237533
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 38#p237538
These two posts are what I'm talking about.
Now, this is not NEARLY has manipulative or guilt trip inducing as posts in A World Reborn (I'm thinking of the sad bear post), so I'm not nearly as convinced. What do we think of this?

If I had to pick who might be Sabie's teammate(s) between LoRab and SVS, I'd say maybe SVS. Between those two and Matt? I'm not liking Matt these days. I think Glorfindel is acting very bad and sprit is bad too.

You, probably more than anyone, knows how much I hate getting in trouble with MP. But OK.

Go ahead and lynch me. I won't fight back. I have no reason to.

sprityo wrote:

Dom wrote:Sprit why did you attempt to discredit me by saying I was rude and mean (a tactic already tried in this game against me)?

i already explained that to you earlier, i legitimately felt offended by what you said to me

sprityo wrote:quite honestly turnip, im just so freakin lazy. like i'd have to sit down out of my 4 hours i get to personal time out of the week to actually build a case on someone, and im just a terrible player for it, dont get me wrong, i could do it but like, i dont really need to in this game anymore? i mean cause ~reasons to be revealed upon death~

Glorfindel wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:I wanna say a sabie teammate might have thrown in the towel at some point but I feel pretty good about all the sabie votes. What do we think of Glofy's vote for MM? He did that thing again where he brings a case forth and votes for it all in the same breath after spending the rest of the day not talking about his reads.

Unlike some of you, I have a full time job and other commitments that mean I can't spend every waking minute here. I do my best to contribute to this game and again, unlike some of you I am uncomfortable lynching a fellow player without some semblance of a case against them. I'd like to think that especailly as we get deeper into these games I prefer to substantiate my lynch with a case based on at least some kind of loose logic and to do so takes time. You may not have seen this from me because I think this is a personal best for me reaching Day 6 in one of your games but like it or not, it's how I roll.

DharmaHelper wrote:Votes are still not changeable TH.