The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote:Dom, thellama73, DH, and S~V~S were a team? Holy shit.

If only we got to have real BTSC.

*votes SVS*

S~V~S wrote:I honestly think Dom is behind a plot involving lynching BWT to remove the K4J thorn in his side, tbh.

Nice NO U.

kneel4justice wrote:
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I think I will be voting for Dom too.
I just don't understand how right when I thought, yes! That sounds very civvie of SVS, suddenly she has all these suspicions. MR, I think is a townie too but I disagree and I don't understand what you're saying about JJ either, since he was a civ?
Actually I have been wondering. I saw a very different side of MR in WWE, I suspected him there, but now I see a side that is more serious, which I like, but I guess I can't really identify those with alignments so I have a question for veterans. Is MR more serious as scum or civ? Is he more playful as scum or civ?[/color]

"All these suspicions"? Try me and then MR suspiciously grabbing onto my suspicion.

DharmaHelper wrote:Sorry I've been quiet but between getting naked and watching nickelodeon, playing some monopoly, and working on writing some other stuff I really have not had a good amount of time to devote to this game. Doms suspicion of SVS is something interesting. Dom, why do you think SVS would stage/script something like that? FWIW in my experience SVS rarely acts in a scripted/staged way

I don't know what she would get out of it, but it felt like she felt like she HAD to say it rather than said it out of her own accord.

S~V~S wrote:In what way? I was very sincere, and i want to know why you are finding it otherwise.

It seemed scripted and planned. I don't really know how to expand upon that.

SVS, I don't know what you're expecting-- I just found your post about BWT insincere.

Mister Rearranger wrote:I only bring it up because SVS was making note of it in a previous game (either Shawshank or WWE, icr which).

It's a long night at work. I don't mind the discussion.

Are you talking about how SVS brought up that it was taboo for baddies to purposefully kill other baddies? (Which I think was best illustrated in Dexter Mafia, where, if I remember correctly, there were 3 baddie teams-- all of which tried to force an end game. SVS also played an excellent baddie game, despite that most of the game was total bullshit ) This was discussed in Shawshank.

Mister Rearranger wrote:Oh, and SVS's BWT reaction seemed insincere? Try SVS's play throughout this game.

Also, of note, "Cards You May Not Understand - And Definitely Do Not Want To Google" killed night-talkative players on nights 2 and 4, a former unwritten rule of thumb for baddies back on LP.

Nice piggy back, MR.

Sorry I've been so absent lately. I've been really busy at school and had some internet troubles today. I hate snow.

TBH, I don't really know where to start. I do think SVS's reaction to BWT seemed very insincere, IMO. But that's nothing much. :/ If anyone can remember who started the discussion on BWT, that might be helpful!

Vote=SVS, Epig, Elo. 1, 2, 3.

Not sure where I'll vote yet.

MR, you tried to manipulate Sorsha's posts when you implied she wasn't paying attention and thought JJ was still alive.

Rey, I would consider you on the fringes of my RADAR. I think the way you've been posting has been making me uncomfortable in the "I like talkative rey better " way.

Don't know who to trust tbh.

Mister Rearranger wrote:Dom: What are your thoughts on both Rey and Sorsha now that they have posted?

That's what she said
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Rey: I don't know if this is his baddie game. He's being awfully silent, really. Even when he is posting, he isn't saying much. He's being extremely brief, so I'd love to hear more from him

Sorsha: I found her to be her typical over defensive self. I've seen her react more to less as a civvie. However, MR, the way you seemed to try and manipulate what she said about you and JJ make me raise an eyebrow upon rereading for your questions.

AceofSpaces wrote:FH's breakdown makes this an easy vote for me. Which is nice because I will be a bit occupied this weekend. Voting Llama

That's what she said

(I'm bad at these)

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kneel4justice wrote:I reread Dom's post because I was wondering about this post:

Dom wrote:I'm gonna vote jj for now. I don't know what I'm doing for today yet (I'm spending the day with my aunt). I don't want to miss the vote. I just se egis Shawshank game coming through. I have suspicion against llama too, but I'm really not sure we're seeing his baddie game.

It jumped out at me, I still haven't caught up on other people's votes but the fact that Day 1, Dom voted for Sorsha which it seemed to me that it turned into a lynch Sorsha party at the last minute, and now she voted for JJ. If Llama comes out mafia, which I am thinking he will, then Dom is someone who may have been working to keep Llama alive. I went back and did not see any actual reason BEFORE this post why Llama was suspicious, and after this post the only reasoning I saw was the fact Llama survived the Day 2 lynch.

Dom, why are you suspicious of Llama, besides the fact that he survived the Day 2 lynch?

That's what she said

Now to address your post:
I did not really suspect llama until day 2. So my suspicion of Llama comes from him surviving the D1 lynch. However, given JJ's performance in Shawshank, I let that overshadow what was (likely) better judgement and I voted JJ day 2.
Onto your commentary about Sorsha, like I said, I didn't think Llama was bad D1. I was having a hard time finding someone to vote on D1, so I voted Sorsha as a wake up call for her to get her butt into the game. My vote was then piled onto. I did not mean to start a bandwagon against her, but at the time I thought I was seeing civvie llama.

I'm voting llama now. I've been busy for the rest of the day. :/ I won't be around much tomorrow either.

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Flyin' High wrote:RIPIYWG metalmarsh.

I've clearly stated my reasons for thinking llama is bad and what role I specifically think he is.

*votes llama*

Worst case he's balls deep and it takes one more lynch to get rid of him. But I think the scenario where he's the taint makes logical sense.

That's what she said

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DharmaHelper wrote:Haha... hats off to boo for making a game that is literally NSFW.

Taht's what she said

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Hedgeowl wrote:

kneel4justice wrote:Obviously, I think Llama is scum. But is there a reason that the lynches aren't going through that we have to solve before we lynch him or no?

If we are right about his role than its becAuse he had a protection the first lynch. He should die this time unless some other shenanigans are pulled.

That's what she said 5

boo wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:

Dom wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:If llama really is "Balls deep", he's just going to survive tomorrow's lynch too, at least by my estimate. Would it be more worth it to try and lynch him again, or pursue other options for now? I'm not too sure right now, but I'd like some more input.

And this is why night time is hiding time.

Ripiywg, Metalmarsh! I hope you'll continue to play other games here!

So yeah, I'm sticking with Llama fo sho today.

That's what She said

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Also, that team didn't kill tonight? Doesn't that team kill on odd nights?

I think Smegma's team kills on even nights. What I'm intrigued by is that Smegma performed the kill and not the team's killer. Could just be the way the post was written though?

Death by smegma just fit the cringe of the n2 theme better. imo

That's what she said

Mister Rearranger wrote:

Dom wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:If llama really is "Balls deep", he's just going to survive tomorrow's lynch too, at least by my estimate. Would it be more worth it to try and lynch him again, or pursue other options for now? I'm not too sure right now, but I'd like some more input.

And this is why night time is hiding time.

Ripiywg, Metalmarsh! I hope you'll continue to play other games here!

So yeah, I'm sticking with Llama fo sho today.

That's what She said

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Also, that team didn't kill tonight? Doesn't that team kill on odd nights?

I think Smegma's team kills on even nights. What I'm intrigued by is that Smegma performed the kill and not the team's killer. Could just be the way the post was written though?

That's what she said

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Mister Rearranger wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:If llama really is "Balls deep", he's just going to survive tomorrow's lynch too, at least by my estimate. Would it be more worth it to try and lynch him again, or pursue other options for now? I'm not too sure right now, but I'd like some more input.

And this is why night time is hiding time.

Ripiywg, Metalmarsh! I hope you'll continue to play other games here!

So yeah, I'm sticking with Llama fo sho today.

That's what She said

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Also, that team didn't kill tonight? Doesn't that team kill on odd nights?

S~V~S wrote:Aw, thats sad Metalmarsh, dying so fast in your first game And gross, too, dying vis smegma yuk.

That's what she said

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kneel4justice wrote:Jeez 24 hour phases are a pain. Tomorrow afternoon I will do my best to read what I have missed. I really do not like all the votes for JJ, and not because he came out for civ. I honestly cannot understand why people are opposed to lynching Llama. Hopefully I find some explanations in there. I just don't understand it, please someone share with me how you feel he is a civ? I do want input to take under consideration but it had seemed to me people were just voting others to not vote Llama and that I don't understand (at least w/the Sorsha vote they seemed to be).

I do not, especially after the last lynch, feel llama is likely to be civvie. I am questioning why Hedgeowl seems to be tilting facts. I'm confused as to what she is saying. It seems to be that she is saying he was lynched twice. He was not.

Hedgeowl wrote:

Dom wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:I said the same thing like, twice before Bass brought it up.

I don't know if you said it, but I do know that I've mentioned it, as has john, and at least 1-2 other people.

So... it has been mentioned. Wouldn't this be another good test too? If llama survives a second lynch, odds are pretty good that it's because of that role. I see no other explanation for surviving a lynch twice.

For real. Wth did everyone think we were talking about this afternoon with llama being bad? Dh? Seriously dude, you were there posting. Why you playing dumb now boy?

He either has to be the taint or hog. There is no other game mechanic that explains it. reywaS what possible explaination is there? I have not played a boo game before so maybe theres behind the scenes stuff I dont know, but i have to work with what i've got and someone is working their butts off keeping llama alive.

I'm confused.
Llama was NOT lynched, correct? Why are you talking like he was? I'm really unsure of what you're trying to say.
It seems to me, that by some mechanic, John was lynched instead of Llama. Are you saying that Llama survived two lynches? That does not seem to be the case?

Llama appeared to be the lynch candidate day 1, but according to DH it was a tie and he choose llama, who still didnt die. So not only were there vote shenanigans to save llama, he also survived. With only two roles taint and the hog and both bad that could have survived this is a big flag. Then he once again appears to have the most votes, but didnt and John is lynched instead, so yes someone is working to save llama and aint no civ I bet.

Linki - k4j a baddie "feels" their teamie is civ up until they are lynched. Amirite?

OK, so you are NOT saying llama was lynched twice? That's where my confusion is stemming from.

Hedgeowl wrote:Dom and reywaS you are both reading realy bad to me right now.

It seems very clear to me, so I am not sure why it isnt. Does my above explanation help?

Llama should have died twice, he did not, so why? Why did he not die when he had the most votes? Because other baddies who have vote manipulation power were protecting him day 1 and 2 and then if DH broke a tie Llama "survived" a lynch. How is this hard to understand? Please someone else jump in and tell me I am not crazy.

I think we're having a misunderstanding, Hedge.

Gangrene mutilated flesh

Hedgeowl wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:I said the same thing like, twice before Bass brought it up.

I don't know if you said it, but I do know that I've mentioned it, as has john, and at least 1-2 other people.

So... it has been mentioned. Wouldn't this be another good test too? If llama survives a second lynch, odds are pretty good that it's because of that role. I see no other explanation for surviving a lynch twice.

For real. Wth did everyone think we were talking about this afternoon with llama being bad? Dh? Seriously dude, you were there posting. Why you playing dumb now boy?

He either has to be the taint or hog. There is no other game mechanic that explains it. reywaS what possible explaination is there? I have not played a boo game before so maybe theres behind the scenes stuff I dont know, but i have to work with what i've got and someone is working their butts off keeping llama alive.

I'm confused.
Llama was NOT lynched, correct? Why are you talking like he was? I'm really unsure of what you're trying to say.
It seems to me, that by some mechanic, John was lynched instead of Llama. Are you saying that Llama survived two lynches? That does not seem to be the case?

DharmaHelper wrote:I panicked and randomized between llama and Sorsha and from reading back and reading the most recent comments of the two I'm starting to think my random pick screwed up :P

AceofSpaces wrote:I've got no problem Voting for Johns Every vote he's made so far has been noncomital and, I believe, made so he can deny responsibility for the lynch. Screams baddie to me.

I know I voted JJ, but this post especially acting like we're far into the game, make me eye you.

Epignosis wrote:
However, it introduced a new doubt: That DharmaHelper is lying about it being a tie. It wouldn't be the first time he invented a story to manipulate people.

He was an independent last time he did that, in Lost. What do you think this time around?

I'm gonna vote jj for now. I don't know what I'm doing for today yet (I'm spending the day with my aunt). I don't want to miss the vote. I just se egis Shawshank game coming through. I have suspicion against llama too, but I'm really not sure we're seeing his baddie game.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:I did, yeah. Quite poorly but I played it. How come?

Based on that game, I am not surprised with JJ's play this game at all... you seem to be.

kneel4justice wrote: This SUCKS.

Were you that sure that FZ was good?

bwt*

bet you played Shawshank, right?

Hm....

kneel4justice wrote:

Dom wrote: I think I did mix up the reasons why you two suspected me. :)I thought it was the other way around.

That changes my view of you a bit. :blushing:

Yes, no Epi vote is a little strange. I'm not sure it speaks to his alignment, but it is strange nonetheless.

Ok, lol. Now I do not really know how to feel about you either, because I was partially judging you on how you were misjudging me!

We fucked up

FZ, do you think Llama will come up civvie?

kneel4justice wrote:

Dom wrote:I'm likely to vote for Sorsha.

K4J, I've seen him aggressive, but honestly, he is doing everything that he accuses other people of doing. He says I am twisting everything someone says into a statement that makes them seem bad. I see him doing this with almost every single one of my responses to him.

MR: I think Sorsha has been online, just not posting.

LINKI:
FZ-- I don't know their posting habits based on alignment, but I don't like how quiet, especially Sorsha is being. Also, there's a difference between giving the vocal players a chance on Day 1 and on Day 4 or 5 haha.


Bass, there's a difference between not posting a lot and not talking a lot.

That was FZ who said something like that, which I don't even agree with.
All I said about you was that your confusion came across as suspicious because it felt kind of forced to me. Which I never stated I was confident in, just a feeling. Then you got over defensive and said I was at your throat for everything, which I wasn't and yes, that made me feel you were making yourself look like a victim, because I never did what you are acting like I have. Perhaps you are getting FZ and I confused.

I think I did mix up the reasons why you two suspected me. :)I thought it was the other way around.

That changes my view of you a bit. :blushing:

Yes, no Epi vote is a little strange. I'm not sure it speaks to his alignment, but it is strange nonetheless.

I'm gonna vote Sorsha now. Wake up! Time to play!

But there's a difference between someone who doesn't post a lot and someone who doesn't post content.

I'm likely to vote for Sorsha.

K4J, I've seen him aggressive, but honestly, he is doing everything that he accuses other people of doing. He says I am twisting everything someone says into a statement that makes them seem bad. I see him doing this with almost every single one of my responses to him.

MR: I think Sorsha has been online, just not posting.

LINKI:
FZ-- I don't know their posting habits based on alignment, but I don't like how quiet, especially Sorsha is being. Also, there's a difference between giving the vocal players a chance on Day 1 and on Day 4 or 5 haha.


Bass, there's a difference between not posting a lot and not talking a lot.

kneel4justice wrote:

Dom wrote:

kneel4justice wrote:

Dom wrote:I initially found that inconsistency with BWT suspicious, but then I thought that a distracted BWT generally means a BWT without BTSC. :/

What's with all these uneasy faces? It comes across to me like you're trying hard to look like you don't know who to vote for when in reality you don't know because you don't want to come out looking bad.

Because this is the first day one in a while where absolutely nothing jumps at me and it bothers me.
Although, you and FZ have had an awful good time of picking everything I have to say apart.

Um, what have I picked apart? I mentioned this and said you were fluffy. Barely picking apart.
And yes, you used the smiley twice. It is not all of that but more so the general vibe I feel you are trying to portray of not knowing what to do.
This post just feels like you're trying to make yourself look like a victim.

Wow another post where I respond to your accusations and you find fault in that.

sorsha, rey....? you guys there?


I did a quick reread and noticed Sorsha hasn't posted in three days. Rey has been very non-talkative and when he does post it's fluff. Then, Sorsha asked about game mechanics, but didn't ever go past that in her posts. :hmm:

I'm gonna reread the thread. Hopefully something will stand out.

Especially since I used that smiley twice...

kneel4justice wrote:

Dom wrote:I initially found that inconsistency with BWT suspicious, but then I thought that a distracted BWT generally means a BWT without BTSC. :/

What's with all these uneasy faces? It comes across to me like you're trying hard to look like you don't know who to vote for when in reality you don't know because you don't want to come out looking bad.

Because this is the first day one in a while where absolutely nothing jumps at me and it bothers me.
Although, you and FZ have had an awful good time of picking everything I have to say apart.

I initially found that inconsistency with BWT suspicious, but then I thought that a distracted BWT generally means a BWT without BTSC. :/

I've played probably over 100 games, and I think I've only done that a handful of times. I'd rather not. :/

i have no idea who to vote for tbh

FZ. wrote:

Dom wrote:

FZ. wrote:

Dom wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:I'm changing my vote to Elochin, because she's only posted once, and I'm willing to blame the FZ and Kneel weirdness on account of them being new.

no response to hedge owl?


And, yes, this is exactly how JJ played in Shawshank.

Maybe you're right, on the first day he voted for llama. But then he started being a lot more talkative. But wouldn't you expect him to learn not to be exactly the same if he were a baddie again?

My understanding of how there are cultural differences between the community I came from and the community you came from is that there are a lot of them. One of those, I've seen is that you all rely on metagaming far more than we do. I'm surprised you're questioning this in this way.
You have gotten yourself into a circular argument here. The wine-in-front-of-me (WIFOM) argument. "That's what he WANTS you to think!"

Lol, Roxy used the WIFOM accusation on us when she started playing with us.
I don't think that's the case though. I didn't even remember him doing the same thing until you both said it. I think we should just wait and see how he acts in the future. I don't think it's enough to vote for him, when others have neither voted nor said anything. By the way, last game he voted for llama without explanation. This time, he voted for himself and explained why. Llama on the other hand, voted for him last game for voting him, and now, for voting himself. So he's not voting for him because he's acting like last game

I never said I am pursuing him.

FZ. wrote:

Dom wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:I'm changing my vote to Elochin, because she's only posted once, and I'm willing to blame the FZ and Kneel weirdness on account of them being new.

no response to hedge owl?


And, yes, this is exactly how JJ played in Shawshank.

Maybe you're right, on the first day he voted for llama. But then he started being a lot more talkative. But wouldn't you expect him to learn not to be exactly the same if he were a baddie again?

My understanding of how there are cultural differences between the community I came from and the community you came from is that there are a lot of them. One of those, I've seen is that you all rely on metagaming far more than we do. I'm surprised you're questioning this in this way.
You have gotten yourself into a circular argument here. The wine-in-front-of-me (WIFOM) argument. "That's what he WANTS you to think!"

insertnamehere wrote:I'm changing my vote to Elochin, because she's only posted once, and I'm willing to blame the FZ and Kneel weirdness on account of them being new.

no response to hedge owl?


And, yes, this is exactly how JJ played in Shawshank.

FZ. wrote:

Dom wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

kneel4justice wrote:Shoot! I forgot this was a speed game and I thought we had until Wednesday to make a decision. I probably will not be able to participate much if at all before deadline, I have assignments due. I'm currently posting on my phone.
BWT caught my eye, saying he has been more fluffy but he wasn't imo because there is plenty of time. Plenty of time?? Where is this time and where can I get some? Especially if you haven't truly started yet. IGMEOY
Llama, did you see my suspicion? Are you the type to respond or ignore suspicion? Can anyone give some input on this?

Llama is flopping between this game and Game of Champs so take that into consideration.

Is there a reason why you just gave Llama an excuse?

Is there an easier way to throw suspicion on someone than to question them on something like that? Baddies would usually not be so stupid as to stick up for a fellow baddie so blatantly. I could see him defending him to get on his good side though, but I could also see you just using that little thing to make him look bad. This is the second time in this game where I feel you are trying to make someone look bad.

I think this is your second, maybe third, game with me, yes?
I always question. I generally post in questions. This is very typical of me. Civ or baddie.


Anyways, my point was, did you notice that no one answered your questions for me?
I wanted to know why DH felt the need to answer for Llama. This is actually exactly what I thought you'd want to see out of a player right now: someone asking questions and such.

And if my answer about SVS bothered you, then I'm sorry, but I find SVS to be literal at times, but I've also seen her have lots of not so literal fun in threads. Everything I've seen out of her in this game is par for the course. I don't really know what you wanted out of an answer.

DharmaHelper wrote:

kneel4justice wrote:Shoot! I forgot this was a speed game and I thought we had until Wednesday to make a decision. I probably will not be able to participate much if at all before deadline, I have assignments due. I'm currently posting on my phone.
BWT caught my eye, saying he has been more fluffy but he wasn't worried because there is plenty of time. Plenty of time?? Where is this time and where can I get some? Especially if you haven't truly started yet. IGMEOY
Llama, did you see my suspicion? Are you the type to respond or ignore suspicion? Can anyone give some input on this?

Llama is flopping between this game and Game of Champs so take that into consideration.

Is there a reason why you just gave Llama an excuse?