The Syndicate

Golden wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:that role list is a work of friggin' art

There was literally nothing about this game that was not. From start to finish, amazing.

In my opinion, LC and BR are the standard to which the rest of us aspire and fall short (although Epi and Rico get damn close).

Long Con wrote:I will do more stories. But first:

Long Con wrote:Congratulations, Sorsha, Mafia: A World Reborn's MVP!

I will continue the Journeys of each role in the coming days.

LoRab wrote:Oh and whoever speculated that I'd invent a protection device was correct. An ionic photon blaster I think I called it. LC actually mentioned it in a thread. Anything I was targeted with would bounce back to the person who targeted me. Which is how typh died when he tried to kill me.

I also believe it's how Dom came to look targeted. He thought I had used the protection bubble, which would have protected both of us. But I think left the opening for me to be killed within square. But, turns out, I had miscounted how many days since I had used it so I had to switch items. Which I did late enough that Dom didn't see it in chat.

Matt wrote:

Greatest game ever, hosts. Thanks for the game, LC/BR, I've never had so much fun in Mafia. Haha, as Karma Chameleon, I didn't share btsc with ANYONE except Dom lol. And I didn't even know it was Dom at the time. Btw Dom, I think Lorab had it right that we just both have different interpretations of our meeting. I figured you weren't thrilled with me of all people trying to activate your win condition, but you did send me to fetch the Gem so that's why I called you a liar lol. Anyway you were bad so

Golden - Don't apologize man, great game. I'm not going to lie, my heart sank when I saw you were a baddie, but eff it. I went with the town, literally NOBODY disputed your alignment so I was being honest when I said "I literally never do this, but since everyone seems to think you're civ, I'll believe it". Won't make that mistake again

Also, apologies for revealing my conversation with the Spirit Oracle. I kept saying all game "I haven't been reprimanded ONCE so eff you guys" and then suddenly Long Con PMs me and says "You shouldn't have posted that about the Spirit Oracle conversation". Haha. After that, I self voted because I felt bad.

I didn't share btsc with anyone but Dom, but I felt I had a pretty epic quest, though it ultiimately failed. I went after MM and Turnip as partners because I landed on a square at one point which had MM and Turnip's dead body. Then, the next phase, Turnip was resurrected. Then I met up with Dom and went after the Star Gem. At one point, I received the list that me and Lorab both had, and you were able to find out two things...What one item does and which direction one item is. I picked some stupid Book for the what it does question, and then I asked where the Star Gem was. Apparently, the Star Gem was in the opposite direction I was going. I also ran into the Spirit Oracle and they told me to find Paradise Meadows. Hopped over to Paradise Meadows, chilled there for three days, then gained my Quest condition. Then I was lynched.

But EFFIN' FUN. Seriously, the best time.

Good game everyone!

Draconus wrote:My heart. It is broken
GG to everyone, though. Especially Golden. I held it as a possibility in the back of my mind but didn't want to believe it. Realistically, civs lost that game a long time ago. But I'm proud to have made it that far as one of the good guys. It's never happened for me before, not even close.

Thank you to Long Con for putting together another awesome game full of well written posts and incredible characters! I had a great time

Sorsha wrote:Golden- I'm really surprised you didn't suspect me once sig and Epignosis were taken out like right after you and I met.

HamburgerBoy wrote:

Dom wrote:

MacDougall wrote:

timmer wrote:

Epignosis wrote:
timmer was such a fail in chat that I knew he was bad. I was hoping sig and I would just pass by without much fuss.

Let's be clear, here. I was, hands down, the weak link in this baddie team. This isn't a poor me thing, I'm not looking for pity or reassurance lol, but I definitely felt the time constraints of my job and my family weighing on me, and my participation was atrocious. I'm on hiatus indefinitely now because of it, other than maybe the Game of Champions whenever that happens. I did what I could, but really, about half of the game was me coasting while using the tribunal to survive. It is what it is, but yeah, I wasn't exactly a supaciv!

Your existence distracted everyone from the reality of what was happening.

The fact that Golden survived that last night kill ... Had he died, the two civs would have lynched SVS with Dom. Dom would have killed one. What would have happened? Circle still wins that way right?

We planned Golden to survive. We used the Fleshstone thing to make sure Golden wouldn't even waste his NK protection. Golden targeted himself because we thought we could get Draconus to vote with us easier than splints.

Oh wow, I actually misunderstood/missed that. I thought the Fleshstone was an item that performed a night kill, like Medusa's eyes or something, I didn't realize it was another NK immunity, hahahha, I thought we were banking on no one else wanting to target golden and it definitively distancing him from the Circle.

HamburgerBoy wrote:Wasn't exactly timmer's fault that golden and Epi had a special item that kept them in communication, unbeknownst to us. Turnip got to slide right on by and steal that star gem, and timmer took all the flak, so given the circumstances I think you did as good as you could, surviving as long as possible.

MacDougall wrote:

timmer wrote:

Epignosis wrote:
timmer was such a fail in chat that I knew he was bad. I was hoping sig and I would just pass by without much fuss.

Let's be clear, here. I was, hands down, the weak link in this baddie team. This isn't a poor me thing, I'm not looking for pity or reassurance lol, but I definitely felt the time constraints of my job and my family weighing on me, and my participation was atrocious. I'm on hiatus indefinitely now because of it, other than maybe the Game of Champions whenever that happens. I did what I could, but really, about half of the game was me coasting while using the tribunal to survive. It is what it is, but yeah, I wasn't exactly a supaciv!

Your existence distracted everyone from the reality of what was happening.

The fact that Golden survived that last night kill ... Had he died, the two civs would have lynched SVS with Dom. Dom would have killed one. What would have happened? Circle still wins that way right?

Epignosis wrote:Boo.

MacDougall wrote:

Dom wrote:

MacDougall wrote:Hey Dom were unrecruited when I was tunneling you or had you been recruited by then?

I wasn't. I was all alone, waiting for someone to find me.

Lol sorry then. What day did you get recruited?

MacDougall wrote:Hey Dom were unrecruited when I was tunneling you or had you been recruited by then?

timmer wrote:

This was one of the greatest baddie teams I've been a party of, I'm so proud of them

Thanks for a great game LC and for handing me entry into the 2015 Game of Champions!

Black Rock wrote:If the civvies only voted for Dom. They would have had a chance. What a nail biting game. LC thought it would have been over a week ago, but the Circle got confident and made some mistakes. Such a close game. Well done all players.

I was really hoping Matt F would get to play his new role. That would have really fucked up the bad guys. You played an excellent game Matt, it was really fun hosting you.

To my dear Witherdeath friends, I was really rooting for you guys. Such bad luck for you guys.

Congrats to the winners, even if that includes Turnip Head. That's for picking on me in games.

Sorsha wrote:Great game guys. Awesome team!



Can we just play this game again?

MacDougall wrote:

Sorsha wrote:

MacDougall wrote:Golden managed to have a baddie from both teams there claiming they were confirmed good, and one of them brought their puppy with them.



And he gets recruited and gets to win the game.

We were making fun of golden and his LD skills quite a bit before we recruited him

I can see why you'd recruit him, but man he deserves to lose this game as a civ so bad.

WTF is with you recruiting so many damn players and Turnip Head coming back to life and shit.

And here's little old MacDougall accidentally dragged into your hive of horror by Golden with nothing but my 1 shot unlynchable... sheeeeeeeeeeesh.

Marsh, SVS why the hell did you kill me!?

Epignosis wrote:Have civilians ever won in a recruitment / map game?

S~V~S wrote:

Dom wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Dom, let's talk.

About?

Being realistic.

If one of us is lynched, the other has no chance in hell. If we lynch one of them, then tomorrow is a coin toss. I was going to say that today would have been a coin toss, too, but that secret, my -1, is out of the bag.

Your call. I would not blame you if you did not take it, but I had to put it out on the table. My team let me try for revenge first, but it did not happen, now they want me to try for the win. So we both move our vote to a civ and live to fight another day.

This gives both of us a slim chance, but before we had none (unless you have a trick up your sleeve I am unaware of~ )

Linki, No Epi, I don't think that is a topic Dom & I are likely to discuss, but thanks for the feedback

S~V~S wrote:Dom, let's talk.

S~V~S wrote:

Dom wrote:I'm very happy your survived, Golden! That would have been a tough loss.

I voted SVS and I think everyone else should as well.

Are you really happy Dom? This sounds kind of forced. I think you are sad your kill failed. But you had to know it would.

Golden, have you been paying attention to the polls this game? Go back and look at the polls from the first 7 days or so. There were quite a few people off of the polls. I am certain there is another way to get people off the polls than the tribunal, although it appears to be fairly arbitrary.

To be honest, I think getting the arguing and defending out of the way first makes a lot of sense to me.

I am voting for Dom. I think the case on him that Tranq made was spot on, even if Tranq was a baddie. Can someone show me the spot on case on me? Even if it is a case of "everyone knows it".

NKing Golden must have been a desperation play on Doms part~ and that means if I am lynched today, Dom will kill again tonight, and in order to do so he needs to find Draco. I meanwhile am as far away from the rest of you as I can get, lol. I just want the moral victory of eliminating the team that killed MM for no reason before I die. I am not sure why they became so focused on me, but it totally toasted their almost perfect early game. And they were nearly flawless. Had Sorsha not pushed so hard to lynch Bass specifically to expose me, those crazy kids might have gotten away with it. Then again, my thirst for revenge totally toasted me as well so

So I am voting for Dom; he is still trying to win, which makes him a bigger danger to you than I. I am just trying to defeat his baddie team. If you lynch Dom today, I will spend the night quietly in my corner with my raccoon not sending in PMs. If you lynch *ME* today, you can be sure Dom will be trying to kill one of you tonight. Keep that motivation in mind.

*Dom*

S~V~S wrote:I've got my fingers crossed for you tonight Dom

You have very limited options tonight. Spending days fixated on one person may have cost you the game.

fingersplints wrote:We can still talk though. I'm a bit surprised there was more then one left. I didn't expect a recruit. A couple of days ago a thought "maybe we should be paranoid about more recruits. It IS kinda these hosts thing" but then I put it out of my mind :/

So, who is left then? I don't understand Tranq vs SVS in the thread if he was recruited by her. Why even call that much attention to himself since he was pretty relatively under the radar a lot of the game.

Tranq wrote:no u

Tranq wrote:Oh come on really nobody bothered to post afater i left? This is incredible fristrating. Draco FS Golden are any of you even around at this point? You're lynching a civ at Day 15, this is endgame. Im sure not one of you believes Dom isnt bad, he is bad. He is Circle. I honestly dont get why some of you seem to think there is a 50/50 shot of either me or SVS being Cabal, but there is a 100% shot ofDom being Circle. PLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEE someone change their vote. I'm begging you. Don't allow the baddies to win.

Tranq wrote:

Dom wrote:You say Tranq is saying all the right things, but I'd llike to bring a few pieces of information to your attention:
1) Tranq said that LoRab is likely circle using some sort of item to make herself appear civvie like the Trickster. He later theorizes that LoRab was not Circle at all and was civvie to explain away that I survived a NK from the Circle. He can't have it both ways though. How many items did LoRab create?

I was 100% convinced LoRab was bad even after she flipped civ. SVS was 100% convinced Sorsha was bad. LoRab being civ explains SVS being blocked which explains her failed fingersplints NK, while Sorsha being bad explains her voting pattern. So yeah, i realise i was wrong. Not the first time i've been wrong this game but i'm hopeful it's the last time.

Tranq wrote:

Dom wrote:2) Tranq claims to know SVS is bad and is working with her. According to him, there's one Circle left and one Cabal. IF I am that circle (and I am not)-- why am I more of a priority to him than SVS? Why is he SO against her being lynched?

As of last night, there is 1 Circle and 1 Cabal left. Before Sorsha's death, there were more Circles alive than Cabal. SVS isn't on the poll today, but even if she was i still would've voted you. I like to keep my word when i make a deal, especially one made with SVS. She is one of only 3 players, maybe 4, in this mafia community i'd consider making a deal with.

Tranq wrote:Also, you slipped up.

Tranq wrote:Hahaha bullshit. You slipped up mate. Busted fair and square

fingersplints wrote:

Dom wrote: FS hinted that she knew she'd survive, it makes me question which is true.

please show me where I hinted at this.

fingersplints wrote:

Golden wrote:Looks like the trickster is a townie.

Tranq made a point.. how do you know this reval won't be a lie? But my gut says there is nothing in the trickster's role that would cause this host reveal to be a lie. And, I kind of wonder if some of the anti-trickster vote sentiment was from people who were a little afraid that we would find out the trickster wasn't bad.

I'm glad to see fingersplints survive, and I'd like to know if she has any inclination as to who tried to kill her.

I do actually. I think it was SVS. But if not her, Tranq.
Made a mistake trying to NK me

Tranq - can you tell me why it was SVS and not you who tried to kill me? SVS - same question about Tranq

Tranq wrote:

Dom wrote:

Tranq wrote:Back home. I see your posts are full of shit. How does it feel being cornered, Dom?

I'm 5sq from the Tribunal. You are 1sq or 2sq west of me, which means you are closer to the Tribunal than i am. You lied.

Catching up now.

No I didn't-- you said you went through the portal, which is close to the tribunal. that was my logic. You broadly using assumptions to clean up a false narrative.

Hold on. This is interesting.

One of your very first posts today, posted 10 minutes after the Night Post:

Dom wrote:I have reason to believe they're at the tribunal-- which means they have at least two people working with them.

I only mentioned going through a portal earlier today, discussing events of Night 12.

What's interesting is right after the Night Post you assumed i was near the Tribunal portal today. Which is the square i told SVS and Sorsha i was going to. Which you only could've known if Sorsha told you through baddie btsc.

You slipped up.

BAM

Tranq wrote:

Dom wrote:Sorsha did not recruit me.

I actually believe you on this. Timmer makes more sense if Epig had the Gem
Sorsha and Golden were very close to that square so she would've known Epig's items.

Tranq wrote:Back home. I see your posts are full of shit. How does it feel being cornered, Dom?

I'm 5sq from the Tribunal. You are 1sq or 2sq west of me, which means you are closer to the Tribunal than i am. You lied.

Catching up now.

Tranq wrote:

Dom wrote:I survived a kill from the Circle on a night I shared a square with LoRab. If I were circle, why wouldn't LoRab be dead? You just said yourself that LoRab wasn't Circle-- so if I was, why isn't she dead if no one else (as your theory suggests) was in killing range?

Gladius Mechaspark - His battery pack can power one of his inventions each night. Has a shield generator that can protect a square from outside forces for the night. Has a flying machine that can emulate the Deadeye Raptor’s movement rate. Has a locator device that can tell him where an item is. Has a Null Ray that nullifies a player’s powers for the phase, rendering them vanilla. If he’s alive by Night 6, he may invent a new item. An invention must recharge for two phases before being reused.

Let's assume you're telling the truth about being on LoRab's square Night 10, the Night of the failed Circle NK on you. If i were Gladius Mechaspark, i'd create items that would protect me from getting killed. The invention must recharge two phases, so i'd use this item again Night 8, and again Night 10. If given the choice between making a failed NK on a civ, or a failed NK on a teammate, i know which one i'd choose.

LoRab wrote: I really do think the statue was recruited by the civ cause.

Of the knowledged I've gained, I think SVS tried to kill Splints. There are other suspicions I had of those now dead that were also based on knowledge.

fingersplints wrote:

Golden wrote:I just caught up for a little and realised... the voting is in part based on emotion. It makes me sad.

I didn't really realised how much of that was in it, but I'm just asking for your trust for one day. I fear if we don't take out tranq now it's game over. If tranq dies today and a team is actually ended, then I'll vote for dom with anyone else tomorrow, I will give my promise.

We will see what Dom's reason for continuing suspecting me is. You don't find it all weird that he can't give a reason why he suspects one of his two suspects this game?

Tranq wrote:At work, not alot of time to catch up. Golden, you're pushing another mislynch. It's not too late to change your vote.

LoRab wrote:Of the knowledged I've gained, I think SVS tried to kill Splints.

Dom wrote:

fingersplints wrote:Another thing Dom, why are you so sure either SVS or Tranq tried to kill me then. If you think one of them killed me (someone on my square) like everyone else - because that is role related. So I'm just asking what specific reason you have for thinking it must have been someone on my square because that doesn't make any sense to me.

I know that SVS was blocked the night there was a NK attempt on you.

...

Why are you accusing me of "being linked to 2 kills" if you know SVS tried to NK fingersplints?

Tranq wrote: I heard back from LC. I left SVS' and splints' square 45 minutes before Night ended. I ended up on the other side of the portal, where Dom and LoRab were. LC got the PM around the time Night ended, there was no time to chat. NKs happen the nanosecond before square movements, but going through a portal isn't a square movement. I was no longer on the same square as fingersplints when SVS tried to NK her. It's psysically impossible for me to having targetted her that Night. I'm not Cabal.

I'm confident in saying if i hadn't made this deal with SVS, Circle would've won this game days ago. When they took Timmer off the poll, they had 4 members. Timmer-TH-Sorsha-Dom. Had they succeeded in lynching MM over TH, they would've won the game. I'm not Circle either. Dom is. I think everyone knows his accusation of fingersplints being Circle is fake, and his accusation of me being Circle is, well, i have no words

Lynch Dom.

fingersplints wrote:Another thing Dom, why are you so sure either SVS or Tranq tried to kill me then. If you think one of them killed me (someone on my square) like everyone else - because that is role related. So I'm just asking what specific reason you have for thinking it must have been someone on my square because that doesn't make any sense to me.

S~V~S wrote:Dom,I am going to walkaway for the night. You sound as if you are REALLY mad, like in reality. And have done so for several days.

S~V~S wrote:YOU SAID THE NAME FS. Can you please tell me why?

Tranq wrote:
Name 1 single Circle suspect still alive.

Dom Wrote: FS.
I have done this so many times. Get a grip.

S~V~S wrote:And please do not tell me to "get a grip".

S~V~S wrote:So then tell me again why you think Splints is in the Circle? We are both here with nothing to do; humor me

S~V~S wrote:You were the one to mention her; let's not try to twist this back on to me.

S~V~S wrote:Doh,I meant Circle. C words.

So why do you think she is the last member of the CIRCLE?

What is your case?

S~V~S wrote:Well, your response on the Reveal an Affiliation poll, for one. No matter what that poll said, you would still think that role was bad. It was actually revealed as not bad, and this time you said it was the HOST being manipulative, since you could not accuse me of it. Had it come up *bad* you would have been "LYNCH SVS SHE"S BAD THE POLL SAID SO". When it came up *NOT bad* you were all like "LYNCH SVS SHE'S BAD THE POLL WAS OBVIOUSLY TAMPERED WITH". SO saying you voted for that for that reason is bullshit. Learning the result of that made zero difference to your opinion. That is one example.

So what is your case on Splints being the last member of the Cabal? I had her down as an Indy.

Dom wrote:

Tranq wrote:Why didn't you want the Master Thief role to be revealed?

I wanted the Trickster to be revealed. I didn't think LC would so obviously manipulate those results too.

S~V~S wrote:You think Splints is the last Circle?

And I would not describe your game to date as"complacent".

You & Sorsha killed Metalmarsh. I KNOW she did. KNOW. I believe you did as well. Tranq may be bad, but the Circle killed Metalmarsh for NO REASON.

*Dom*

S~V~S wrote:Dom, if you are SO SURE a role is going to turn out bad, and you have been pointing & screaming "TRICKSTER'" and "BAD BAD BAD BAD" at me for days, yet you needed to see the role revealed? And when it came up not bad, you did not believe it anyhow. The HOST is being manipulative now,not just me, but the HOST.

Such Bullshit.And you accuse me of being full of shit. Lol.