The Syndicate

DFaraday wrote:

Dom wrote:your NO U post and then literal no u on me didn't help you.

Good intuition, I guess. Although the NO U post was a Day 0 joke which I probably would have also done as a civ.

DFaraday wrote:

Dom wrote:

DFaraday wrote:Dom why

u ok?

I was calling back to this:

DFaraday wrote: Dom, why were you so convinced I was bad for the whole game?

I wasn't sure if I had legitimately done something shady or you just had a really strong gut feeling.

DFaraday wrote:Dom why

Dom wrote:Good game sorsha i didn't know you were abd oh gm y god

i was civ!!! pwoplw qhwn iwll you not lynch meeee wait youd idn't but like (((

G-Man wrote:If SpiderGramps is still alive and has an extra vote to spare, then yes, my "team" has an extra vote.

Sorsha wrote:

Dom wrote:Do you guys really think G-Man is more likely to be bad than Elo?

I think Eloh is more likely to be yubaba so she would be the more dangerous of the two. If they still have extra votes though I think spreading the vote out is dangerous too. So it seems safer to vote together imo

Elohcin wrote: I'm glad you were able to re=open it, G.

And Dom, somethin' just don't smell right.

Elohcin wrote:

nijuukyugou wrote:

Dom wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:So... Have we noticed the trend of kills?

They keep murking players that keep the former wagons in tact. Baddies are ok with the way things are going and don't want to see a shift.

Niju must be spared today.

Who isn't okay with lynching Nju but you?

*jumps up and raises hand* Me, me! Ooh, pick me!

Dom wrote:Nju, who do you think we should lymch?


Same question for you Elo.

I feel a bit lost, but I do have thoughts.

Regarding myself, I coasted in the first part of the game, resulting in crappy posting and even crappier votes, and enough suspicion on me to garner votes, thus resulting in my having to save myself rather than think as critically as I'd like (resulting in - surprise! More crappy votes). The one day I was taken off the poll late-game, we caught a baddie. I was able to think more rather than think about saving myself.

The last lynch reminded me a lot of a particular day of BoB when the lynch was down to me and Bass, and Bass lost and came up (rather, "Seemed") civ. I was civ (the non-seeming kind). Either way, the baddies were able to make it so they would "win" either way - Bass voters looked bad because it appeared they lynched a civ, and I looked bad because...well, I was the second choice and appeared to be the "right" option versus the lynched civ. Thankfully, I was not lynched the next day, or any other day after that. I guess what I'm saying is last lynch, though with less people, was between two civs, designed to create a win-win for baddies. I'll keep repeating it: I was whisked off the poll the DF lynch day for good reason. Don't screw this up. Don't be duped.

Regarding others that stand out to me (mostly from the last lynch), Eloh's sideways vote for Sorsha in the last lynch looked sketchy as hell, but considering the actual lynch results, not as sketchy as it looked at the time. It was a way to avoid being on either lynch train, which was odd, but it would also be quite a risk to make herself so visible. Still, it's too close to endgame to brush that aside as impossible, especially considering the sketchy DF lynch day, too.

Sorsha's vote change was weird, too, about the same level of sketchy as Eloh. I understand the reasoning behind it (not wanting to spread too much so late), but it's like the opposite kind of sketchy from Eloh - weird, but also draws risky attention. Vote record is slightly better than Eloh's, however.

G-man looks the sketchiest to me thread-wise, especially in conversing with SVS during and after the last lynch. He waffles like crazy, talking himself in and out of voting (and I may be biased, since I was one of the choices and did not want to die), then immediately speculates after the lynch that he thought zebra was Oshira. SVS comments on this weirdness nicely:

S~V~S wrote:

G-Man wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Gman "I had her penciled down as raddish bro" but you didn't fight for her?

I didn't want to
Give the baddies any clues
If she was Radish

But you were OK with her being dead, so long as any of the baddies had no clues about her role?

When you & I were talking, I clearly said I was considering a vote for her and you did not try to talk me out of it. You actually said this:

G-Man wrote:

S~V~S wrote:You feel so helpless you don't have an opinion?

I feel helpless 'cause
Both Zebra and Niju are
Just 50-50

I like a little
More certainty when I vote
Even if I'm wrong

Granted, he did vote me instead , but the reasoning with not talking SVS out of it is weird. So weird. More subtly weird than the sketchy votes above, at least IMO, like he was backtracking? Like he was trying to sound/look helpful, but then having it shut down by SVS and Wilgy. Vote record is slightly better than Eloh's, but behavior is weirder and is making me itchy. He nicely avoided the last lynch in the end, too. Hmm...

As for others that don't stand out as much as bad, Dom voted first on zebra, which could be bad, but his going after DF throughout the game looks good. Wilgy acts weird, and I waffle between his being the Stink Spirit and bad (the voting behavior and tone is certainly not civ, or any civ I've ever seen), but he's not giving me the same vibes as those above. SVS has been bear-ified twice. Sure, this could be major baddie team self-targeting, but that seems a little overkill...

Argh. This is aggravating, and I feel like I'm starting to ramble, so I'm gonna stop. At this point, I'm most likely to vote Eloh (for behavior last two votes/vote record throughout the game) or G-man (for behavior stated and votes), followed by Sorsha. The others are tinfoil suspicions to the max. I'm hoping I don't have to try saving myself again, but that's likely, considering the conversations in the thread. But those are my thoughts. I'm gonna go ahead and put a vote on G-Man, after talking myself through that. I'll return at some point, tomorrow for sure, but now I've spent too long on this site and should probably do other things.

Look who's gettin' all involved now that she my be voted for and lynched.

So I know this is an ignorant question, but (you have to understand that I've not really been coherent for the past 4 days. As I said before, a sickness overtook our home and we were all completely out of it, in pain, and sleeping over half the time. We are all finally on the mend, able to eat now a little bit but still coughing our heads off.) how many baddies are left? I am thinking, Niju, Dom, and if there is another, I am going back to my original Wilgy.

Sorsha wrote:

Dom wrote:I really don't like the timing of Nju's Matt vote on Day 1.
Or Elo's Day 5 LC vote.

But I get your point.

Do you think eloh and niju might be the last two?

I can't shake the feeling that g-man is bad though. It seems like you are feeling the same and it looked like svs was poking at him also yesterday.

Wilgy says eloh and g-man too.

G-Man wrote:

Dom wrote:Days of pushing G-Man to respond to suspicions, game is definitely approaching endgame, and now he wants to make cases and respond? OK


I'm not claiming that I get instant civ cred for voting DFaraday and helping build that case. I am claiming that makes me far from under the radar.

I'm sorry your theory is wrong.

Dom, I did not say that I belive the theory I wrote to be true. You're just first alphabetically.

Though I must say, your post would read a lot better without the condescending put-down paragraph that you chose to lead off with. Rather than just state that you're not claiming instant civ cred with Faraday, you choose to cast more doubt on me before I even post my other theories. Amusingly, your dismissive response is actually in line with the rest of my theory.

But anyway, I'll be back in a little bit with my theory on Eloh.

G-Man wrote:

Dom wrote:G-Man, this pivot in strategy is... interesting.

Why do you want to find Yububa today and not Kashira?

Because all of us could be Kashira but only four of us could be Yubaba. Aim small, miss small.

DrWilgy wrote:So... Have we noticed the trend of kills?

They keep murking players that keep the former wagons in tact. Baddies are ok with the way things are going and don't want to see a shift.

Niju must be spared today.

G-Man wrote: I did not miss the
Vote- I was silenced, thusly
Not allowed to vote

G-Man wrote:Anyone think it
Is possible Yubaba
Silenced Kashira...

This late in the game
To provide extra cred with
Us? I still have my...

Paranoid concerns
About Wilgy. Anyone
Feel sure that he's good?

G-Man wrote:What do people think
Of Dom? He's been very much
Under the radar

Sorsha wrote:

Dom wrote:Sorsha's record suprrises me.

Dom wrote:I thought it was better.

You must not have been paying attention to what DF was saying about me. His entire case was based on my crappy voting.

I had high hopes about zebra joining the game thinking she was going to bring in some fresh eyes and ideas to the discussion. But her interactions with LC yesterday have me thinking she could be one behind his death last night. LC seemed eager about a niju lynch today and zebra argued against it.

Does anyone have any opinion on Bubbles other than "she is always a low poster and gets lynched for it?"

All of Eloh's arguments today are wifom.

And what are thoughts on Dr WIlgy? He was one of my orange reads days ago when I did my rainbow thing... he has toned down quite a bit the past few days but I sometimes find it hard to figure out what are serious suspicions from him and which are bait. This is from last night seems to be a legit one, I think.

DrWilgy wrote:Shoot...

DrWilgy wrote:Ok so this is how it went down according to my knowledge:
S~V~S (6), Dom (7), Sorsha (8), voted DF 3-0

a2thezebra (9) voted LC 3-1

nijuukyugou (10) voted DF 4-1

I voted LC 4-2

DF(11) placed his vote 4-3

Bubbles voted LC, 4-4 then quickly shifted to DF and stopped at spot (12) 5-3

Eloh voted LC 5-4

I voted DF 6-3

So... Key events -
DF was saveable upon his own saftey vote with help of extra votes until Bubbles voted for him.

DF was made saveable when Eloh voted for LC until I moved.

Someone double check this.

Long Con wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:Would you have voted for DFaraday if it was between him and Elohcin?

I don't really know. The DFaraday action has really crossed my wires with the other game - I voted for him in that game on this day.

I want to have a look at both vote lists for Day 1 and Day 5, the days we lynched baddies. Was it within 1 vote at some point during today's lynch?

a2thezebra wrote:

Dom wrote:Very nice of you to call people out for lurking/not posting Zebra when you have offered almost no content at all.

I was calling him out for the Long Con vote, actually.

a2thezebra wrote:I see you Bubbles.

DrWilgy wrote:A sorta... pickin at straws comment... I feel like we are in a good territory if we bop Elo, DF, Sriracha, or Dom on the nose today...

DFaraday wrote:My analysis was almost entirely concerned with the voting record, not the posts people have made, so apologies if that part is fuzzier.