The Syndicate

I think I'm going to pass on running this this year, wec realistically should have like 8 active players and we have 3

Honestly, nights like last night are what we love this game... what a historic win! Congrats DH! But... I won't run this again unless we can find a few more active players, it's a lot of work for me for just 3 of us, lol... even Mongoose has never checked in since the draft.

And ties are broken by who got the most points from wins, so..... yeah DH won the fucking game

Final Round - The Oscars

Best Picture - Parasite (DH +9)
Best Actress - Renee Zellwegger (DH +4)
Best Director - Parasite (DH +4)
Best Song - Rocketman (Timmer +1)
International Film - Parasite (DH +1)
Visual Effects - 1917 (Mongoose +1)
Cinematography - 1917 (Mongoose +1)
Soung Mixing - 1917 (Mongoose +1)
Supporting Actress - Laura Dern (Mongoose +4, Timmer +1)
Production Design - Once Upon A Time... (Mongoose +1)
Adapted Screenplay - Jojo Rabbit (Timmer +4)
Original Screenplay - Parasite (DH +4)
Supporting Actor - Brad Pitt (Mongoose +1)

JaggedJimmyJay (14) - The Irishman (10), Maleficent 2 (1), Cynthia Erivo (1), Scarlett Johansson (2)
Timmer (27) - Jojo Rabbit (10), Marriage Story (7), Harriet (2), Rocketman (2), Leonardo DiCaprio (1), Adam Driver (1), Johnathan Pryce (1), Charlize Theron (1), Anthony Hopkins (1), Al Pacino (1)
Mongoose (32) - 1917 (13), Once Upon A Time... in Hollywood (12), Judy (2), Laura Dern (5)
DharmaHelper (32) - Parasite (24), A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood (1), Knives Out (1), Saoirse Ronan (1), Renee Zellwegger (5)

It's a fucking tie!

I mean... the BP and BD wins alone give you 13 more points, you very well may have, I won't have time to make an official count util later today... I know I got 4 for screenplay for JoJo and that's it atm... fuck it, I'll start counting, lol...

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:22 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:39 pm 11 BAFTA noms with zero wins for The Irishman. Damn.

It is what it is.

Those dumb motherfuckers

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:44 pm Massive improvement from my shitshow last year. Now just gotta hope I land a decent draft spot. Much harder to get a good grasp of the field for 2020, though I will try closer to draft time and see if I can pull together a strategy

We need to find more players, tbh, we can't keep running this with only 3 active players.

Final Round - The Oscars

JaggedJimmyJay (14) - The Irishman (10), Maleficent 2 (1), Cynthia Erivo (1), Scarlett Johansson (2)
Timmer (21) - Jojo Rabbit (6), Marriage Story (6), Harriet (2), Rocketman (1), Leonardo DiCaprio (1), Adam Driver (1), Johnathan Pryce (1), Charlize Theron (1), Anthony Hopkins (1), Al Pacino (1)
Mongoose (23) - 1917 (10), Once Upon A Time... in Hollywood (10), Judy (2), Laura Dern (1)
DharmaHelper (10) - Parasite (6), A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood (1), Knives Out (1), Saoirse Ronan (1), Renee Zellwegger (1)

Round 5 - BAFTA - Final Results

Mongoose (48) - 1917 (27), Once Upon A Time in Hollywood (11), Judy (3), Taron Egerton (1), Laura Dern (5), Awkwafina (1)
JaggedJimmyJay (11) - The Irishman (9), Scarlett Johansson (2)
DH (17) - Parasite (9), Knives Out (1), A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood (1), Saoirse Ronan (1), Renee Zellwegger (5)
Timmer (27) - Rocketman (4), The Farewell (1), Marriage Story (6), Jojo Rabbit (10), Charlize Theron (1), Leonardo DiCaprio (1), Adam Driver (1), Johnathan Pryce (1), Anthony Hopkins (1), Al Pacino (1)
Raz_Zaa (7) - The Lion King (1), Joaquin Phoenix (5), Tom Hanks (1)

Outstanding British Film - 1917 (Mongoose +1)
Animated: Klaus
Makeup: Bombshell
Score: Joker
Sound: 1917 (Mongoose +1)
Production design: 1917 (Mongoose +1)
Costume Design: Little Women
Editing: Ford v. Ferrari
Cinematography: 1917 (Mongoose +1)
Supporting Actress: Laura Dern (Mongoose +4, Timmer +1)
Adapted Screenplay: Jojo Rabbit (Timmer +4)
Doc: For Sama
Original Screenplay: Parasite (DH +4)
VFX: 1917 (Mongoose +1)
Supporting Actor - Brad Pitt (Mongoose +1)
Casting: Joker
Foreign Language Film: Parasite (DH +1)
Director: Sam Mendes (Mongoose +4)
Best Actor: Joaquin Phoenix (+4)
Best Actress: Renee Zellwegger (DH +4)
Best Film: 1917 (Mongoose +9)

Thanks for playing, Raz! And now the Big 4 move onto the final round!

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2020 3:41 pm Also I would earn points for Tom Hanks.

True, you would earn one more pt, so Raz has a tall order ahead...

Round 5 - BAFTA

AND THE SHOW IS STARTING IN MERE HOURS!

[mention]Mongoose[/mention], [mention]DharmaHelper[/mention], [mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention], [mention]Raz_Zaa[/mention]

Mongoose (25) - 1917 (9), Once Upon A Time in Hollywood (10), Judy (3), Taron Egerton (1), Laura Dern (1), Awkwafina (1)
JaggedJimmyJay (11) - The Irishman (9), Scarlett Johansson (2)
DH (8) - Parasite (4), Knives Out (1), A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood (1), Saoirse Ronan (1), Renee Zellwegger (1)
Timmer (22) - Rocketman (4), The Farewell (1), Marriage Story (5), Jojo Rabbit (6), Charlize Theron (1), Leonardo DiCaprio (1), Adam Driver (1), Johnathan Pryce (1), Anthony Hopkins (1), Al Pacino (1)
Raz_Zaa (3) - The Lion King (1), Joaquin Phoenix (1), Tom Hanks (1)

Raz_Zaa needs to find 5 points to move on to the big final round...

(Tiebreak rules: In the case of a tie during any round, a winner must be determined between the tying studios. To settle this, the points each studio acquired in nominations will be removed. That means which ever studio earned the most points based solely on wins will advance. If this process does not determine a winner then a hierarchy of wins will be established, where a studio with the rights to the winning film in this succession of categories will move on: Best Film, Best Director, Best Screenplay (Original then Adapted), Best Lead Actress then Actor, Best Supporting Actress then Actor, Animated, Foreign, Documentary, Score, Cinematography, Editing, Song, Production Design, Costumes, Makeup, Sound Editing, Sound Mixing. (Note that the hierarchy is for film rights, not actor rights.))

Since to tie DH, Raz needs 5 more pts and DH needs zero, a tie would actually mean Raz moves on, not DH, since Raz would have more points from wins. So Raz can get 4 more points if Joaquin Phoenix wins best actor, or Tom Hanks best supporting, and 1 pt if Lion King wins its category.

Round 4 is over! Sorry to [mention]Dunya[/mention], you have been eliminated, thanks for playing!

DH (28) - Parasite (DGA,ACE(2),PGA,ADG(2),WGA(5),SAG(2)), A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood (CDG,ADG,WGA,SAG), Knives Out (CDG(2),ACE,PGA,ADG,WGA), Renee Zellwegger (SAG(5))
Mongoose (38) - 1917 (DGA(5),ASC(2),PGA(10),ADG,WGA), Once Upon A Time in Hollywood (DGA,CAS,CDG,ACE,ASC,PGA,ADG(2),SAG(4)), Judy (SAG(2)), Taron Egerton (SAG), Laura Dern (SAG(5))
JJJ (16) - The Irishman (DGA,CAS,ACE,ASC,PGA,ADG,WGA,SAG(3)), Maleficent 2 (CDG(2),ADG), Cynthia Erivo (SAG), Scarlett Johansson (SAG(2))
Timmer (29) - Jojo Rabbit (DGA,CDG(2),ACE(2),PGA,ADG,WGA(5),SAG(2)), Rocketman (CAS,CDG,SAG), Marriage Story (ACE,PGA,WGA,SAG(4)), The Farewell (ACE), Harriet (SAG), Charlize Theron (SAG), Leonardo DiCaprio (SAG), Adam Driver (SAG),Al Pacino (SAG)
Dunya (14) - Queen & Slim (DGA,CDG), Frozen 2 (CAS,ACE,ADG), Little Women (PGA,WGA),Nicole Kidman (SAG),Jamie Foxx (SAG), Brad Pitt (SAG(5))
Raz_Zaa (15) - Ford v. Ferrari (CAS(2),ACE,ASC,PGA,ADG,SAG), The Lion King (CAS,ADG), Joaquin Phoenix (SAG(5)), Tom Hanks (SAG)

WGA winners - Parasite and Jojo Rabbit, each gets 4 more pts to go to 5 total.
ADG winners - Parasite, Once Upon A Time inHollywood (and Avengers: Endgame and Toy Story 4) - each gets another pt to go to 2 total.

CDG - Winners were Jojo Rabbit, Knives Out and Maleficent 2, each of which just earned another point.

prob should have been a double box office trim, but oh well, next time!

Except only 3 go to the final round..... Although we DID have one extra player this year, so... we never really discussed it, did we? Okay, top 4 will head to the finals!

CAS - Ford v Ferrari = +1 more pt for Raz.
DGA - 1917 = +4 more pts for Mongoose.
ASC - 1917 = +1 more pt for Mongoose.

Point totals are updated a few posts above!

Since the BAFTA will hit roughly as the Guild round ends, here's a look at the current point totals:

Mongoose (25) - 1917 (9), Once Upon A Time in Hollywood (10), Judy (3), Taron Egerton (1), Laura Dern (1), Awkwafina (1)
JaggedJimmyJay (11) - The Irishman (9), Scarlett Johansson (2)
DH (8) - Parasite (4), Knives Out (1), A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood (1), Saoirse Ronan (1), Renee Zellwegger (1)
Timmer (22) - Rocketman (4), The Farewell (1), Marriage Story (5), Jojo Rabbit (6), Charlize Theron (1), Leonardo DiCaprio (1), Adam Driver (1), Johnathan Pryce (1), Anthony Hopkins (1), Al Pacino (1)
Dunya (7) - Frozen 2 (1), Little Women (5), Brad Pitt (1)
Raz_Zaa (3) - The Lion King (1), Joaquin Phoenix (1), Tom Hanks (1)

Parasite is the most critically successful foreign language film since... maybe Crouching Tiger... it could definitely win director

Oh no, if they win they are now worth 5, not 5 more. If you go back to last year that's always how I tallied the points. A bp win is worth 10 but that includes the 1 pt for the nom, so its +9 more, etc.

We could change that for next year but that's hookie I've always counted them.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:45 am Aren't actor wins worth 5 points?

Yes, that's why I put a 5 next to Renee! If you mean the ensemble category, no, that is worth only 2 for its film, as I don't think any of us were carrying individual actors from Parasite.

Updated with SAG winners!

And unsurprising... it was Mongoose.

Round 4 points - update

DH (28) - Parasite (DGA,ACE(2),PGA,ADG(2),WGA(5),SAG(2)), A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood (CDG,ADG,WGA,SAG), Knives Out (CDG(2),ACE,PGA,ADG,WGA), Renee Zellwegger (SAG(5))
Mongoose (38) - 1917 (DGA(5),ASC(2),PGA(10),ADG,WGA), Once Upon A Time in Hollywood (DGA,CAS,CDG,ACE,ASC,PGA,ADG(2),SAG(4)), Judy (SAG(2)), Taron Egerton (SAG), Laura Dern (SAG(5))
JJJ (16) - The Irishman (DGA,CAS,ACE,ASC,PGA,ADG,WGA,SAG(3)), Maleficent 2 (CDG(2),ADG), Cynthia Erivo (SAG), Scarlett Johansson (SAG(2))
Timmer (29) - Jojo Rabbit (DGA,CDG(2),ACE(2),PGA,ADG,WGA(5),SAG(2)), Rocketman (CAS,CDG,SAG), Marriage Story (ACE,PGA,WGA,SAG(4)), The Farewell (ACE), Harriet (SAG), Charlize Theron (SAG), Leonardo DiCaprio (SAG), Adam Driver (SAG),Al Pacino (SAG)
Dunya (14) - Queen & Slim (DGA,CDG), Frozen 2 (CAS,ACE,ADG), Little Women (PGA,WGA),Nicole Kidman (SAG),Jamie Foxx (SAG), Brad Pitt (SAG(5))
Raz_Zaa (15) - Ford v. Ferrari (CAS(2),ACE,ASC,PGA,ADG,SAG), The Lion King (CAS,ADG), Joaquin Phoenix (SAG(5)), Tom Hanks (SAG)

You definitely paid the most attention this year, both Parasite and Knives Out were fairly late grabs, weren't they? Well done.

Round 4 points - Guild nominations, so far

DH (15) - Parasite (DGA,ACE,PGA,ADG,WGA,SAG), A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood (CDG,ADG,WGA,SAG), Knives Out (CDG,ACE,PGA,ADG,WGA), Renee Zellwegger (SAG)
Mongoose (17) - 1917 (DGA,ASC,PGA,ADG,WGA), Once Upon A Time in Hollywood (DGA,CAS,CDG,ACE,ASC,PGA,ADG,SAGx3), Judy (SAG), Taron Egerton (SAG), Laura Dern (SAG)
JJJ (15) - The Irishman (DGA,CAS,ACE,ASC,PGA,ADG,WGA,SAGx3), Maleficent 2 (CDG,ADG), Cynthia Erivo (SAG), Scarlett Johansson (SAGx2)
Timmer (22) - Jojo Rabbit (DGA,CDG,ACE,PGA,ADG,WGA,SAGx2), Rocketman (CAS,CDG,SAG), Marriage Story (ACE,PGA,WGA,SAGx3), The Farewell (ACE), Harriet (SAG), Charlize Theron (SAG), Leonardo DiCaprio (SAG), Adam Driver (SAG),Al Pacino (SAG)
Dunya (10) - Queen & Slim (DGA,CDG), Frozen 2 (CAS,ACE,ADG), Little Women (PGA,WGA),Nicole Kidman (SAG),Jamie Foxx (SAG), Brad Pitt (SAG)
Raz_Zaa (10) - Ford v. Ferrari (CAS,ACE,ASC,PGA,ADG,SAG), The Lion King (CAS,ADG), Joaquin Phoenix (SAG), Tom Hanks (SAG)

Ok, we are going to go with the guilds first, all but 2 of them will announce their winners ahead of the bafta ceremony, and even those 2 outliers are on the same day as bafta.

Yeah I think Mongoose has this locked up tight

Tomorrow or the weekend, I'm going to check when the guilds will be announcing their winners, if they happen before bafta, the guilds will be our next round...

Round 3: Critics Choice Totals

Mongoose (50) - 1917 (14), Once Upon A Time in Hollywood (27), Judy (3), Awkwafina (1), Laura Dern (5)
Raz_Zaa (13) - Ford vs. Ferrari (5), The Lion King (2), Joaquin Phoenix (5), Tom Hanks (1)
JaggedJimmyJay (18) - The Irishman (15), Cynthia Erivo (1), Scarlett Johansson (2)
Timmer (32) - Jojo Rabbit (8), Marriage Story (9), The Farewell (4), Harriet (2), Rocketman (4), Leonardo DiCaprio (1), Adam Driver (1), Charlize Theron (1), Anthony Hopkins (1), Al Pacino (1)
Speedchuck (10) - Joker (9), Margot Robbie (1)
Dunya (21) - Little Women (13), Frozen 2 (2), Adam Sandler (1), Brad Pitt (5)
DharmaHelper (27) - Parasite (12), Uncut Gems (4), A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood (2), Knives Out (3), Saoirse Ronan (1), Renee Zellwegger (5)

The bottom remaining player is now eliminated, and that is speedchuck, thanks for playing!

Its certainly something we can tweak for next time, if we try again next year

Like say, wins for... best foreign language film, Mr. Parasite owner?

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:33 am @timmer is there a list of Guilds that count towards R5?

Quite a few have announced already, let's see, there are... producers guild (pga), directors (dga), writers (wga), actors (sag), cinematographers (asc), editors (ace), costumes (cdg), effects (ves), makeup/hairstyling, sound mixers (cas), sound editing (mpse), aer directors (adg)...

I'll get to compiling when I have the chance!

Round 2 total points (bottom 2 fall out of the competition)

Mongoose (52) - 1917 (16), Once Upon A Time in Hollywood (19), Judy (2), Awkwafina (5), Taron Egerton (5), Laura Dern (5)
JaggedJimmyJay (9) - The Irishman (5), The Report (1), Motherless Brooklyn (1), Cynthia Erivo (1), Scarlett Johansson (1)
Speedchuck (7) - Joker (6), Margot Robbie (1)
Timmer (25) - Marriage Story (7), Rocketman (5), Jojo Rabbit (2), Harriet (2), The Farewell (3), Charlize Theron (1), Adam Driver (1), jonathan Pryce (1), Leonardo DiCaprio (1), Anthony Hopkins (1), Al Pacino (1), Joe Pesci (1)
DharmaHelper (16) - Knives Out (3), Parasite (4), Cats (1), Renee Zellwegger (5), Saoirse Ronan (1), Emma Thompson (1), A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood (1)
Novaselineever (5) - Bombshell (2), Pain & Glory (2), Christian Bale (1)
Dunya (9) - Little Women (2), Frozen 2 (2), Brad Pitt (5)
Raz_zaa (11) - Ford vs. Ferrari (1), Where'd You Go, Bernadette? (1), the Lion King (2), Joaquin Phoenix (5), Cate Blanchett (1), Tom Hanks (1)
sabie12 (1) - Toy Story 4 (1)

Goodbye to Sabie12 and Novaselineever, thanks for playing!

The rest move onto Round 3!

So Mongoose had a good night, wow...

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:28 am A closer race than last years ey Timmer ol boy? Not gonna ram through with 40 points this time, sucker.

LOL, it's definitely close, I think I'm fine with the Globes, but honestly depending on the wins drop with Critics Choice, it could get interesting! One thing is for sure, we will end up with a competitive final this year no matter what.

By the way, an early look at Round 3, since the Critics Choice noms are out, as well:

Mongoose (24) - 1917 (8), Once Upon A Time in Hollywood (12), Judy (2), Awkwafina (1), Laura Dern (1)
Raz_Zaa (9) - Ford vs. Ferrari (5), The Lion King (2), Joaquin Phoenix (1), Tom Hanks (1)
JaggedJimmyJay (17) - The Irishman (14), Cynthia Erivo (1), Scarlett Johansson (2)
Timmer (29) - Jojo Rabbit (7), Marriage Story (8), The Farewell (4), Harriet (2), Rocketman (3), Leonardo DiCaprio (1), Adam Driver (1), Charlize Theron (1), Anthony Hopkins (1), Al Pacino (1)
Speedchuck (8) - Joker (7), Margot Robbie (1)
Dunya (13) - Little Women (9), Frozen 2 (2), Adam Sandler (1), Brad Pitt (1)
DharmaHelper (18) - Parasite (7), Uncut Gems (4), A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood (2), Knives Out (3), Saoirse Ronan (1), Renee Zellwegger (1)

Round 2... the Golden Globes!

Nominations are out, and here is where we all stand, with the cavaet that DH needs to officially pass Jack, still, but it will absolutely happen.

Mongoose (12) - 1917 (3), Once Upon A Time in Hollywood (5), Judy (1), Awkwafina (1), Taron Egerton (1), Laura Dern (1)
JaggedJimmyJay (9) - The Irishman (5), The Report (1), Motherless Brooklyn (1), Cynthia Erivo (1), Scarlett Johansson (1)
Speedchuck (5) - Joker (4), Margot Robbie (1)
Timmer (21) - Marriage Story (6), Rocketman (3), Jojo Rabbit (2), Harriet (2), The Farewell (2), Charlize Theron (1), Adam Driver (1), jonathan Pryce (1), Leonardo DiCaprio (1), Anthony Hopkins (1), Al Pacino (1), Joe Pesci (1)
DharmaHelper (11) - Knives Out (3), Parasite (3), Cats (1), Renee Zellwegger (1), Saoirse Ronan (1), Emma Thompson (1), A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood (1)
Novaselineever (5) - Bombshell (2), Pain & Glory (2), Christian Bale (1)
Dunya (5) - Little Women (2), Frozen 2 (2), Brad Pitt (1)
Raz_zaa (7) - Ford vs. Ferrari (1), Where'd You Go, Bernadette? (1), the Lion King (2), Joaquin Phoenix (1), Cate Blanchett (1), Tom Hanks (1)
sabie12 (1) - Toy Story 4 (1)

So... am I right that no one ever took Joe Pesci? WTF? How did I not see that? He's going to win supporting actor, lol

Yup... the only thing Jack has left is Meryl in Cats, but you have Saoirse in the same position, so you just need Cats to make like 5 million and you are in... so, since that is going to happen, I'm going to start prepping round 2!

So I'm caught up to this last weekend and DH, you are knocking on the door and you still have Cats to come, I believe you'll be fine!

nice catch on the box office of the Tarantino, DH, I've made the adjustment!

D'oh! Yes, apparently I did!

So... some updates for players to consider, since there is very little time left to make changes to your roster...

[mention]Mongoose[/mention], you have 4 vacant actor spots, still.

[mention]novaselineever[/mention], The Laundromat went to Netflix and never played in theatres. The Last Thing He Wanted moved to 2020. Amy Adams has no film in 2019. They can all be replaced.

[mention]Sabie12[/mention], Artemis Fowl moved to 2020. It should be replaced. Also, you have 5 empty actor spots.

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention], The Report was released to Amazon Prime in the USA so it will earn no box office. You can hold it for awards purposes, of course, but I thought I would make sure you knew.

[mention]Speedchuck[/mention] I'm not sure what The Crow is, tbh, but i don't think it is a 2019 film. Robert Downey Jr. has no 2019 film that counts. Same with Josh Brolin. You also have 4 vacant actor spots.

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention], neither Woman i nthe Window or Professor and the Madman are opening in the USA in 2019. Neither Gary Oldman or Michael Caine have movies coming out. And you have 6 vacant actor spots.

[mention]Dunya[/mention], I'm not sure Ema has a 2019 release date in the US.

[mention]raz_zaa[/mention], you have 5 vacant actor spots. And just in terms of stretegy, you cannot lose the first round, so you COULD conceivably drop Jumanji 3 in favour of a smaller, Oscar-y film if you wanted at this point.

I've gotten caught up on the spreadsheet, DH is still in the hot seat but it likely won't last long, Jack is in trouble...

I've got the spreadsheet updated up to It 2 opening, which has given us a new player in the bottom hot seat...

Considering how some of my films are being reviewed in TIFF, I think DH may have the lineup to beat, at the moment

Yup, signups will open in a few days for the next season. Start canvassing people

I'm drunk and lousy count but I just won.