The Syndicate

Oh yeah! Y'all should have answereded the knights who say NI's questions! You got to ask them if a certain player of your choice had "ni", and since most roles had the word universe or night in them, most were a yes, but if you hit a NO like we did with Long Con, you could learn a lot about him!

juliets wrote:I was also limited that day by a potion from SVS saying I must use words only from night 2. So the names I could underline were limited to anyone I had mentioned that night. Timmer I think caught the night 2 quotes.

I actually shit my pants after I mentioned that about your posts. I knew why you were repeating posts because I knew info about the night posts and knew that MP got the wand and would pick someone to hit it with. I didn't anticipate your 2nd curse! But I pointed out what you were doing too quickly, and I thought that people would see it and think *I* had hit you with the curse, maybe making me out to be Hatter or something. I was very glad when not a soul noticed it, lol.

Zeek, you get MEGA kudos. Our BTSC was big time fun, you put together some good cases on people, and your end-game gambit to target MP was brilliant! You totally nailed that the last baddie would redirect him, lol.

and MP didn't win? As his Narrator, I'm kind of sad about that, once I knew who I was, I kind of tried to protect him lol.

I actually thought that Oin had disrupted BTSC and that you were bad and sending some kind of code to your baddie teammates, lol!

juliets wrote:Yeah the hatter told me to name 3 people and underline their name in the thread and that the four of us would be going to a party. I underlined the names but nobody noticed and nothing ever happened.

I noticed!!! i noticed!!! I noticed that FZ did the same thing!!! But I could never figure out what it meant, so I didn't say anything!

DharmaHelper wrote:

Severus Snape- S~V~S
Gleeok- Elohcin / bea

NO WAY?!

OH! Gleeok = two people! *click*

And Alex, I was TOUCHED that you picked me to be your narrator! I even said in BTSC with Marla "aww, I'm touched!"

DharmaHelper wrote:

timmer wrote:This might be DH's greatest game, honestly, and if the info dumping and vouching hadn't happened, I think he'd have won.

Coming from you this chokes me up, thanks.

Your voting record pointed to either a suit or an indy, no WAY a sorcerer!

This might be DH's greatest game, honestly, and if the info dumping and vouching hadn't happened, I think he'd have won.

LOL... wait, wut?

LOL, DH, I can't believe with your voting record that it was you! You played a great game!

But, I'm afraid it's over now. Welcome to the end of the game, folks.

Rey, Lizzy or Lorab. It's one of them. Bsed on timing of their posts, I'd say Lizzy is most likely, followed by Lorab, followed by rey in last. But I need to think about this for awhile.

Oh, and the Ghost has vanished?

Why can't it be an absent player, like Lizzy or Lorab?

The fact that YOU killed Daisy means DH is the last Sorcerer? How's that?

It leaves absent played mp. And I agree, DH there is a lack of subtlety in this game part of which I saw sadly party of.

Ive suspected it for awhile. We have one more player than roles. And one night it said quite clearly that Gandalf would give the ring to someone thus I've been operating on the assumption that Gandalf was the secret role. it didn't seem prudent to mention it though but that's moot now. And for the record I'm not that role of that role is existing.

Well the ghost is off my lynch list. We really need to try to be more subtle though

Interesting. I'm going to wait to see what night brings, and then I'll comment on what I think of those three.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Elohcin wrote:I think we just ought to lynch DH tomorrow. I think getting the info. from his lynch would be best for us.

Actually the funny thing is, even though I'm civ, I don't think yall have ANY clue who I am.

I think I do, actually, which was why way back days ago I said I wasn't going top go after you anymore. I mostly just voted you yesterday out of frustration. But I still want to know from you why you think the game isn't over, if indeed you were right about Boom?

Now, here's the sticky part for me.

IF DH were a sorcerer, despite the voting records, he could easily choose to not submit a kill to point to the absent players.

But, if that were the case, he would likely continue to dodge killing while we passively lynched absent players, right?

So I'm wondering if lynching an absent player who is our best guess as a bddie might be the smartest thing to do? DH could definitely be bad, because efrom my POV he seems to have been wrong about Boomslang (if he's the fourth sorcerer the game should have ended, thus he is NOT). But he could also just be wrong.

A study of the voting records points to DH not being a Sorcerer.

However, I cannot reconcile this with the fact that I do not see how Boomslang isn't face of boe. If he isn't, and is indeed a sorcerer, shouldn't the game be over? Tyler took over the Suits kill so that points to there being no suits left. But the sorcerers kills simply aren't happening. Which means they is still one more. Thus, Boomslang WAS face of boe. DH is either wrong, or lying.

So I see us having to do one of two things.

1. Lynch DH.

2. Lynch the non-participating players until we find the missing absent baddie.

Can anyone tell me, if the game isn't over, and if the suits kill has transferred to tyler, but the sorcerers' hasn't, how I'm supposed to believe that Boomslang WASN'T face of boe?

Like seriously, if he was a sorcerer, why isn't the game over? We've won the game, if DH is right.

Whatever happens in the game from here on out, I really don't care. I should have stayed retired.

DH, you essentially claimed a role yesterday, so step down from the cross, we could use the wood ok?

And furthur to that, if you really were Face of Boe, you'd be telling us right now which are our main suspects to lynch based on your night action last night, since you obviously wouldn't have bothered checking those who have vouched.

Since all you are doing is barking instead, I'm going to vote you today. Bitch all you want. If you were Face of Boe, youd have suggested a damn target. I'm done with this whining.

Long Con wrote:

S~V~S wrote:I can mentally visualize several people rolling their eyes whenever I post...

That never happens to my eyes when I read your posts.

Mine neither! I really hope you don't mean me!

And tell me, DH. How does a DEAD PLAYER know there is a Seemer? I don't even see how YOU would know, but how does a DEAD player know?

How convenient is it that the dead baddies have btsc with the living, and here you are pitching a seemer just as a dead player ALSO pitches the idea of a seemer to lend you credence.

DharmaHelper wrote: I've already explained *TWICE* how Dom's votes for Boomslang were meaningless throwaway votes. At no point was Boomslang in any danger as a result of Doms vote. Whereas I actively contributed to the lynch of TWO SORCERERS WITH MY VOTE

Sorry, DH. Again, there are lynches all OVER this game where baddies voted for their teammates at crazy moments. I've never actually seen anything like it.

You are suggesting that the sorcerers had a way to make one of them be a seemer, and that Boomslang knew this back on Day 2 or 3 when he started suggesting that people were civs here and there, and that he has coasted quietly along, dropping little hints about being Face of Boe, all the while not even knowing if the real one was alive or dead (since you are saying it is you?)? And that somehow you saw through this, lynched Boomslang, who is listed as Face of Boe, but fuck it all, we should just believe you.

No.

Much more likely? Boomslang was Face of Boe, you got him lynched, you are bad.

Either way, I'm going with Mongoose tomorrow, but why the FUCK should I believe you? I know of no reason to believe that Voldemort or anyone else had a magic potion as part of their secrets. This is Parchment-level bullshit, and you are using the game's issues with info-dropping to pseudo-FAKE-info-drop.

again... no.

Try to convince the others, I know where the truth lays, and it isn't with you.

DharmaHelper wrote: Really? Because I've voted for two Sorcerers. TWO.

You're saying that despite the lynch result we saw, that Boomslang was a sorcerer? Well Dom (a sorcerer) voted for Boomslang TWICE. So big whoop, DH. Boom has been crumbing Face of Boe ALL GAME. I see absolutely no reason to believe you, and no CERTAINLY no reason you can call yourself 100% proven to not be a baddie. Try harder.

But I don't know which option to pick, tbh. I went with who is dead because it doesn't sound as carefully planned as some of the others.

Svs, if you don't know anything about polyjuice potions, I'd suggest changing your vote off of the seemer choice. This whole thing is a gambit. Dh is playing is, and that's his teammate up there on the poll, I think.

DharmaHelper wrote:

timmer wrote:I think if SVS doesn't know about polyjuice potion, then I do not believe DH AND if dead baddies still have btsc with their living partners, then it is very possible that the seemer choice in the poll was a baddie trying to match their words to the plan they knew dh was going to try.

I dont know which to choose yet, but I think the seemer one is likely a baddie.

Except its 100% impossible for me to be bad?

Every lynch in this game has had baddies voting for teammates. The only certainty is that there is no certainty. I will be voting Mongoose tomorrow, sticking to my plan, but I don't put ANY credence in this seemer/dh is face of boe b.s.

I think if SVS doesn't know about polyjuice potion, then I do not believe DH AND if dead baddies still have btsc with their living partners, then it is very possible that the seemer choice in the poll was a baddie trying to match their words to the plan they knew dh was going to try.

I dont know which to choose yet, but I think the seemer one is likely a baddie.

Svs, what do you think of dh's comment about boom having a polyjuice portion? is that possible?

Nice one, DH. Gawd.

Ugh, what a frustrating day. I see both sides of it. I trust or semi-trust two people on the Mongoose lynch train, and I trust or semi-trust 3 people on the Boomslang lynch train, not enough difference there.

I'm guessing Bea will vote with Elohcin?

Well, I think these are both solid candidates, so I'm happy to see where this lynch leads. Certainly if it turns out Boom is civ, we've then got Mongoose dead to rights the next lynch, and would logically be able to find a final sorcerer in the Boom voters.

If Boom flips bad, we should logically only have one baddie left, and they would likely be in the Mongoose voters. Or it would be Mongoose.

Either way, things are solid.

S~V~S wrote:

timmer wrote:

S~V~S wrote:It could also be the Sorcerers is my point, right?

Could you expand on this? Do you mean that instead of Tyler taking over killing for the suits, that he has joined the sorcerers? Because I don't think the sorcerers killed and made it look like Tyler, as MP clearly indicated that yes, he did do the kill. So the only possible alternative would be that he joined the sorcerers? Is that what you mean?

Actually, shockingly, I was saying something stupid. Go Figure

And I thought FoB was still alive. I have given up having an opinion, lol, since I either upset people severely or say stupid things, though, so what do I know?

Now now, we're all good now, aren't we? I've apologized for blowing up at you, can't we move on from this?

Apropos of nothing, whatever happened to Long Con declaring you to be 100% absolutely certainly bad? Has he packed that in, lol? Because that's how you sound about Boom, tbh.

And I'm not trying to trash your position, DH, I just like clarity.

I'd be okay with a Boomslang lynch as I can see the possibility of what you are saying being true, and Dom has definitely gone after teamies before. But I like the Mongoose case better. either/or, frankly, are better odds than anyone else in the game at being baddies.

DharmaHelper wrote:

timmer wrote:DH, you know that if Boomslang were to be lynched and he flipped Face of Boe that you would likely get lynched next, right?

I think my voting and posting record indicate I can't possibly be mafia, so no I don't think that's the case.

I look at Boomslang and I see someone who has hinted at Face of Boe here and there for ages. I see someone who Dom pushed against early on. And I see you saying, "he's just bad, just lynch him". I'm all for not info-dropping, but I'm also all for proper cases to be made. Can you show me how Boomslang's Boe hints are wrong? How he is a sorcerer?

I'm not trying to bug you, but we need clarity at this stage. We've had a tremendous run with lynches and I don't want it to stop. And I see a decent case against Mongoose. If you want me to switch to Boom, I need a case, man!

DH, you know that if Boomslang were to be lynched and he flipped Face of Boe that you would likely get lynched next, right?

Reading back through Boom's posts, he definitely has been mega-focused on truth statements all game. And there is a definite progression from thinking Daisy is good, to Daisy And Long Con, to now those two and juliets.

Boom has been talking about this since about Day 3, so the one thing that could make him bad is if INH was Face of Boe. the sorcerers killed him Night 2 and the necromancer would have learned his role. So INH is Face of Boe, INH is killed, Boomslang isa sorcerer and begins dropping little Face of Boe hints here and there.

If Boomslang is a sorcerer, then he knows full well who his remaining partner is, and can label anyone else he pleases as civ, since he's clearly trying to say he is face of boe without saying it.

I've got to think.

I like the case against Mongoose slightly better than the one on Boomslang at the moment, but Dom DOES have a history of going after teammates in games. I can remember times where Dom warned me in BTSC that he would be going after me lol.

I'll reread both later today but for now I've got one other game to catch up on.

S~V~S wrote:It could also be the Sorcerers is my point, right?

Could you expand on this? Do you mean that instead of Tyler taking over killing for the suits, that he has joined the sorcerers? Because I don't think the sorcerers killed and made it look like Tyler, as MP clearly indicated that yes, he did do the kill. So the only possible alternative would be that he joined the sorcerers? Is that what you mean?

zeek wrote:

S~V~S wrote:And I know MP is saying he is replacing the suits, but only 2 known dead of either team exists right? So we are taking his word on that? Or did I miss something?

Suits: Made, DFaraday and Bass.
Sorcerers: Dom and Snow Dog.

insertnamehere or Russtifinko were killed by the Sorcerers, so could have been the last Suit - or it could have been Roxy, as her role wasn't revealed.

I think it must have been INH.

Russ did vote early in the DF lynch for Boomslang, which could have been a try at saving, but he voted Bass over Dom at a key time in the Dom/Bass lynch. It doesn't scream Suit to me. And Roxy was definitely playing her civ game, I'd highly doubt it was her. INH is most likely, if the Suits are indeed gone.

Doesn't really matter, I guess. Either way, we need to find sorcerers today.

Hey all, starting to catch up now. Sorry but it was Super Bowl weekend and my Pats won so I've been busy!

DharmaHelper wrote:Some of yall are about as subtle as a brick to the face.

Elohcin wrote:
Abby and Brittany!

I have no idea what this means, but it's all good, I'm done suspecting you two.

Hmm what do you guys think? I could swItch to mongoose if we think it's a better option? i honestly am not sure.

@S~V~S, sorry for flipping out earlier, you know I know you're awesome