The big question re: Golden, for me, is Daisy's low-level pushing of him.
She had five nothing posts on Day 1 and then this beast, with about 12 minutes to go in the day:
I'm having ipad issues. Irritating.
Here are my thoughts thus far...
Roxy and Splints: I don't find anything weird about their statements regarding MP and I don't find it weird how they have stated them or been in agreement. It pretty much lines up with what I have seen of them in the past. They are always thick as theives so I don't find any reason to suspect them here.
Golden: I kind of agree with others about you. You seem to be reaching with your suspicions. That said, civ Golden can be a great guy to keep around, so I want to be sure before I cast a vote for him. But I will be keeping an eyeball there. You are probably my number two option today.
DDL: I don't understand this case. Because he assumed a host would modkill someone who did not put up an avatar he must be bad? Have we asked the host for confirmation about what would happen? If she is going to modkill MP, then I can totally see DDL being suspicious. but if she is not I don't really get what the basis of this case is.
Missing Person: I see why there are those that would want to lynch him. His lack of avatar cripples any advantage we have to suss out the baddies through the use of the questions. We can neither incriminate him nor clear him. However, he is here, or at least trying to be. So I would like to give him at least this first cycle to see if he gets an avatar up.
Turnip Head: My vote is likely going here. The reason being that he is simply not here at all. If we wait until tomorrow's lynch to eliminate him then we risk him getting his P Score dinged, because I believe I read in the beginning that you can only miss two lynches this game. He has clearly been AWOL from everything here, so I have to assume he can't be here for whatever reason, so I think he is the best lynch today. Additionally, I take the stance that a non participator only hurts the civs. If he is a Civ, he is not using his vote so it is essentially lowering our numbers by one by default. The baddies are not going to kill him, because he helps them. My vote is going here.
Timmer, I ain't even mad.
So she calls Golden her "#2" suspicion, but with just over ten minutes to go and a baddie partner to protect, that statement means nothing. Daisy was bad, none of her suspicions above were legit.
So the question, for me, is whether she would continue to list Golden as suspicious if he were her teammate.
Day 2 Daisy questioned Golden about his case against MM that MM had deliberately tried to change the intent of Golden's post by selectively trimming it. She then made a "statement vote" against Golden.
Well that statement vote came after DDL's fate was sealed. Daisy was the last vote of the day, so here this could easily be a baddie continuing a low-level campaign against a teammate.
Day 3 is interesting. Daisy wanted to vote BR but missed the deadline. This is her post that listed the vote but came too late:
Spacedaisy wrote:Black Rock wrote:I voted for Daisy because I want to live.
Back at you cowgirl. I don't really want to die frankly.
This is a lot of silliness imo. Yep, I voted turnip day 1. Llama and Epi, did I not just express the same thoughts to the mods about non participants and how it makes the most sense to vote them out rather than let them hang around handicapping the civs? And given all the hub bub around someone as invested in the site as turnip head getting his p score dinged, I don't see why this is such a surprising vote. Given how DDL flipped, yes I can see why that is working against me. But my vote yesterday was not intended to lead a charge on anyone and save DDL, obviously. I was the last voter with minutes to spare. I was making a statement.
I don't trust Golden and I think you all would be well advised to not trust him either. More on this later should I live. Because unfortunately to save my life I have to vote BR... I hope you are bad, but I know I'm not.
Splints, you said it would look bad for me if I had voted DDL. This is horse manure. I have many times voted along with a train, regardless of my alignment and regardless of if I suspected them. If I don't see a better reason to vote somewhere else then I certainly will. I voted where I did for exactly the reason I said.
Now, I apologize for not being in here more. Between work and wedding planning it gets the better of me, especially with 24 hour days.
Voting BR.
Now, let's think about this. BR's post, that Daisy links at the start, was posted 30 minutes before the lynch poll closed. Daisy came in early enough to see BR's post, and decide to reply to it. Her reply came exactly as the poll closed. Now that's a LONG FREAKING POST. Like, really long. It's particularly long in light of the fact that Daisy OBVIOUSLY was aware of her status in the poll.
So let's put on our "i'm a baddie" hat for a second. If you honestly know that you are down in a lynch poll 4 votes to 2, and you honestly plan to vote the person with 2 votes to try to save yourself, but you ALSO have this huge post to write what do you do? You vote first, correct? Or, at least, you keep an eye on the clock and if need be, you open a second tab and get that vote in before deadline. What you do NOT do is write a post this long and miss the poll.
You DO though, if you're bad, write this kind of post if you know you are toast and plan to use your post for a different purpose. Note the bolded part. The ENTIRE post is Daisy covering her vote history... except the sentences about Golden. Once again, with Daisy clearly knowing her words were coming too late to accomplish anything, she tries to put out a lightweight suspicion of Golden. There is no honest point to it. She knew, I think, she was going under. She missed the deadline writing a monster post full of defences that she had to know were about to be proven false. And there dis this random suspicion of Golden again. If she flips bad, why would we ever follow her comments about him? But if she KNOWS that, why put these "I'm eyeing Golden" content into play? To me, it seems like an engineered WIFOM.
And it's even followed by this:
Spacedaisy wrote:Oh and golden. I'm not defending MM, I'm calling you out on twisting things. If I do live, I well show you exactly what I mean. In the meantime, I'm tired from work and need to make dinner. Please don't make the mistake of lynching me.
written one minute after the poll deadline.
Even IF somehow she was unaware that she had blown the deadline with the first post, she HAD to have then tried to vote and realized that she had missed it. And yet, she still wrote the second post even though she thus knew she was dead. I'll say that again. If she tried to vote after the first post, she thus wrote the second post knowing she was a dead about-to-be-confirmed-baddie. And she still chose to call out Golden.
Long story short (too late), Daisy's posts point to one of Golden or MM being bad, without a doubt. Either her constant picking at Golden was a WIFOM-y plan to mention your partner but never put him in harm's way, or MM is the partner and Daisy just simply stuck with her Golden "suspicions" even after she realized that she was toast.
I've got to read MM now to combine the two halves of this.
