The Syndicate

I'm an addict even against my better judgment, what can I say.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:44 pm I really want to sign up for that one, but I'm already in two games.

Same. I'd love to though if I had the time. Perhaps once my mafia schedule clears up a bit and I'm past a few more dissertation deadlines.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:38 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:37 pm It only worked because I had hosted greater idea before, so I knew the ins and outs of the roles. all the dealing with syndicate format and polls and hosting a turbo game for the first time ever was hard.

But I'm glad you guys liked it.
I'm sorry, we should have let you play in the sandbox first so you could get a feel. But you did a great job! I wouldn't have changed how you ran it at all.

I echo this sentiment as well.

Also, good idea about using distinct terminology for each faction. I think I'll do that going forward instead of "mafia team 1" and "mafia team 2".

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:37 pm This was super fun. Seriously, I reiterate my question of when the next turbo like this will be? lol, addicted.

Same.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:33 pm there isnt a role in the setup who can universally detect any faction. Closest one is bloodhound (who gets town or not town). Each type of cop detects something.

Cop finds mafia.
Seer finds wolves.
FBI finds serial killer.
Private investigator finds cult.
conspiracy theorist finds alien.
bloodhound finds town.

Really incredible setup. Can we play the next one now? Lol. Just kidding, I have work to do, but seriously I want to play another version of this ASAP.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:33 pm The seer identifies werewolves. The cop identifies mafia.

Oh yes, that's right. Around here we would say cop, so that's what I meant, but in this setup you're right it's important to make the distinction.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:31 pm I didn't know I was mafia who could see mafia

Yeah, you were a mafia-aligned cop basically.

Well played to everyone, this was a great game. Elo and sprityo really rocked it too especially being lone mafia.

DDL, thank you so much for hosting this. This was a TON of fun, I absolutely loved it. The setup is just brilliant. I'm dying to play another.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:24 pm There was no convincing at the end here...had to fold, sorry.

Well played.

If I hadn't a Tracker role, you might have had it.

Did you just out yourself?

Elo, you said you "check someone every night to see if they are mafia". If this is true, who were your targets and why, and what were your results? otherwise, you're bad.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:15 pm Down to three and I guess I'm out.

You're not even going to try?

Based on this:

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:15 pm - Town: The uninformed majority. Members of town win the game when they eliminate every scum faction, serial killer, cult, and any role that poses a threat to their existance, or when it is impossible for that not to happen.

- Mafia: The first baddie faction. Mafia wins the game when they eliminate every faction other than themselves, or when it is impossible for that not to happen. They are allowed to kill once per night. Keep in mind that Mafia in this game is the name of one specific faction. Evil players as a whole are called scum.

- Werewolves: The second scum faction. Werewolves function the same way as the Mafia, also having one faction kill per night. But they may have different roles to pick from.

- Aliens: The third scum faction. Aliens also win the game when they eliminate every other faction in the game. But the fundamental difference is that each alien player can only kill once in the game. To balance this restriction, the alien faction automatically wins any ties that happen at the endgame.

- Independents: Any players who do not belong to specific factions. Those include Serial Killers, Cults and any other roles. They have specific winning conditions.

Be aware that there may be alignment changing roles in this game, including, but not limited to, cults.

Every role that can possibly be in the game can be found in this link:

http://bit.ly/2haXUMb

If you have any questions about any specific role, feel free to ask me, by PM or in the thread.

and my tracking result that Daisy did nothing, it not only aligns with her claim of vanilla townie, but she absolutely cannot be Mafia or Werewolf by definition. The only roles she could be are Aliens, and she just so happened to not use her one-time kill N1 which seems strategically unwise, or she's an Independent with no role ability that targets on N1.

I think we've solved this game. It nearly has to be Elo.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:12 pm Thanks for the input Jay before you died and I am inclined to agree. Voting Elo. And if MP has pulled the wool over my eyes this time then we are even.

I can assure you I'm the Tracker. I wouldn't fake claim that if I were mafia.

VOTES ELOHCIN

I should have tracked Elo, dammit.

Well, Jay targeted Elo last night, so that's unfortunate.

It's clear Elo needs to go. She made the wrong move here. The only way we've lost is if it's somehow Daisy and she wasn't the one to kill N1 and sprityo was.

If you doubt my claim, look at my D2. I knew Daisy didn't kill anyone.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:08 pm MP has a whole list of rolea he could claim from. Hes smart enough to claim something to make him look good

You're bad, aren't you?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:07 pm MP, why would you reveal your tracker target?

I thought I might die and I wanted it to be abundantly clear why I was buddying Daisy all of a sudden on D2. I also was receiving pressure from you so I wanted to make everything clear either way.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:06 pm I'm a Tracker. I tracked Daisy N1 and found no result. I'm tracking Jay now. Hopefully I don't die.

Also FTR, I said this right when I did because it was 11 seconds before Night 2 was supposed to end.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:06 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:04 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:04 pm He seemed like he knew he had power from the start.
What does this mean?
Your calm, cool, collected attitude makes its seem this way. Jjj is right....you keep demanding me to elaborate. I don't have anything else to say. I think I've been clear

I am not calm and cool, for one, so I have no idea how you're getting that from my posts. I was asking for your reads, for Christ's sake.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:06 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:06 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:04 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:03 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:02 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:01 pm Explain further. I don't see how I could I be seen as opportunistic.
I wouldn't expect civilian Elohcin to be a fountain of reasoned, thoroughly stated reads in a burglary game. You demanded she be that.
I didn't demand anything; I'm trying to get a read on her.
You were perfectly ready to kill her for the majority of Day 2. When she stated reads, you dug into her demanding expansion and thoroughness for which she just isn't known. That looks opportunistic to me. I don't see "MP wants to get a read on her", I see "MP wants to lynch her".
Then you're seeing it all wrong. I wanted to get an idea of where her head was at. All she said was she suspected me for vague gut-based reasons, then suddenly said she townread you even when I just asked her earlier she hadn't any other reads. I was trying to reconcile whether she was lying or telling the truth.
Where are your reads at currently?

Daisy as town, you and Elo are ???, though I feel slightly worse about you again at the moment. Night should tell.

I'm a Tracker. I tracked Daisy N1 and found no result. I'm tracking Jay now. Hopefully I don't die.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:04 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:03 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:02 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:01 pm Explain further. I don't see how I could I be seen as opportunistic.
I wouldn't expect civilian Elohcin to be a fountain of reasoned, thoroughly stated reads in a burglary game. You demanded she be that.
I didn't demand anything; I'm trying to get a read on her.
You were perfectly ready to kill her for the majority of Day 2. When she stated reads, you dug into her demanding expansion and thoroughness for which she just isn't known. That looks opportunistic to me. I don't see "MP wants to get a read on her", I see "MP wants to lynch her".

Then you're seeing it all wrong. I wanted to get an idea of where her head was at. All she said was she suspected me for vague gut-based reasons, then suddenly said she townread you even when I just asked her earlier she hadn't any other reads. I was trying to reconcile whether she was lying or telling the truth.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:04 pm He seemed like he knew he had power from the start.

What does this mean?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:02 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:01 pm Explain further. I don't see how I could I be seen as opportunistic.
I wouldn't expect civilian Elohcin to be a fountain of reasoned, thoroughly stated reads in a burglary game. You demanded she be that.

I didn't demand anything; I'm trying to get a read on her.

Explain further. I don't see how I could I be seen as opportunistic.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:58 pm If one baddie remains I think it's MP or Eloh, and for the moment I am leaning MP.

It's not me.

And why?

Elo:

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:15 pm - Werewolves: The second scum faction. Werewolves function the same way as the Mafia, also having one faction kill per night. But they may have different roles to pick from.

YES! BIH sprityo! :yay:

Well played.

sprityo, what exact role are you claiming? what's the name of it?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:53 pm LMAO, I have been here at my apartment since I first posted "I'm here!" Alex was in the other room with headphones on. I called out hello when I came in and texted him hello as well. He had no idea this whole time that I was in the other room. He thought I was playing from work...

I did! I was just like WTF YOU'RE HERE?!

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:50 pm Sorry, I don't know a more reliable way of doing this.

I suppose I could scrap the poll and do thread vote counting like at NF but that would take more time

You're totally fine. No apologies necessary.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:50 pm Hmm...so what happens in a tie?

I assume a random coin flip. DDL can confirm/deny.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:47 pm

May the RNG gods have mercy for your souls.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:48 pm I wasn't on Jay though.

....You aren't. It says you're on Elo with me.

DDL just posted his screenshot. It's a 2-2 tie.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:47 pm Did I move too late?

Looks that way.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:47 pm this is so intense

You're telling me.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:47 pm I moved to sprityo.

I take it you were OK with Elo's explanation?

Oh, seems it didn't matter. Alright then.

Fuck. I was just contemplating moving to sprityo.

How much time do we have [mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention]

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:45 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:45 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:44 pm I don't know what sprit's vest is. I'm a lover cop though, so fucking move your votes.

Why did you just out yourself as cop? You had little pressure.
The day will end any second and I was tied for the lead. As a lover, any other lover dies with me. It could ruin the game.

Oh, I must have missed that.

Ugh, I don't know what to do.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:44 pm I don't know what sprit's vest is. I'm a lover cop though, so fucking move your votes.

Why did you just out yourself as cop? You had little pressure.

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