The Syndicate

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:And the metal pipes draw the water from the marshes.

Okay I'm reaching.

And the metal pipes that draw the water from the marsh of peace
To rearrange the molecules that hasten to the crease
All of this portrayed our love with impending liquid feast
That we may return to stand upon the wreathes of our fine fleece


My best Jon Anderson impression.

Awesome.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Boogs wrote:Boo im confused lol.i searched Mp night 3 and apparently he was my color?

MP was originally Kentucky. He died, but later replaced back in for Tennessee on Day 10 or so.

Yep.

I thought my role being Kentucky the first time around was somehow fitting.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

juliets wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

juliets wrote:Epi, why did you pay $500 for a chance card?

Because I am a financially irresponsible person who does not plan for the future whatsoever.

(And what you all didn't know was that boo had a limit on the chance card and I got it for $175, which is why I was able to buy houses and hotels. I of course didn't make this fact public.)

Ohhhh I gotcha. I kept trying to figure out how you were doing that.

I signed up for this not planning on winning,** but just planning on having fun. Mission accomplished.

**That changed when all reds found one another after Night 2 and we could buy houses and hotels, and then changed quickly back when we all died three in a row.

I killed zeek so I could join your team dammit. If things had worked out, y'all would have won anyway.

Well, that would have been interesting.

Turnip Head wrote:And while you probably made the right choice MP, you and I could have won this thing, and it would have been epic I was sad that Bass didn't try to hook back up with us.

Ugh, I definitely agonized over it. I do think we could have managed it... would have been plenty of fun that way too, I imagine.

Black Rock wrote: MP: Thanks for your loyalty, we appreciate it greatly. The game would have gone all bad for us if you hadn't. I had some paranoia, because I'm a paranoid person but you never let me down... this game.

Not a problem! It was fun and I'm glad it worked out in the end.

Turnip Head wrote:Lame! The BTSC that Bass and MP got really swung the game since they hooked up with the killer. Oh well. I'm happy with how I played this game, I always seem to come up just short.

Thanks a bunch for setting this up boo. This was a very fun game and was hosted flawlessly.

You played this game brilliantly, TH. I don't know how you avoided actually being lynched for so long.

Unfortunately, that's why I decided to hook up with LC instead of you, because I was afraid you'd be much more easily lynched.

juliets wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

juliets wrote:Who were Black Rock, Lorab, bea, Long Con and Bass in terms of color?

Others can corroborate this, but BR and LC were Light Blue. LoRab and bea were Yellow.

I have no idea what role Bass got when replacing.

So MP, didnt bass have to be on the same side of the board to make this work? Actually I havent looked at the board recently I'm just assuming thats how people hooked together. And I'd like to know why Metalmarsh killed me. I was not powerful and had no hotels and couldnt put one up.

No, Bass and I came back in with Daisy and DP's property cards, but not their win conditions. We could win with anyone so long as we traded with them at least once, and we had to trade with someone at least once every day or night period or we would die automatically.

Yeah, I was honestly shocked that there weren't bankruptcies. I thought for sure that would have occurred at least to a few players.

juliets wrote:Who were Black Rock, Lorab, bea, Long Con and Bass in terms of color?

Others can corroborate this, but BR and LC were Light Blue. LoRab and bea were Yellow.

I have no idea what role Bass got when replacing.

I feel terrible for splints and Hanna though, they were the collateral damage of LC and BR's final Captain Planet plan. I figured I would win with LC, his partner, and Bass, but knowing we could end the game sooner when they told me that, I was like, hell yes!

YES!!!!!

Awesome game, boo. Truly. This was one of the most fun games I've ever played.

I was a Red with Epig and zeek, and it seems everything was going our way... then immediately it all came crashing down and we got NKed three nights in a row.

Sadly, my schedule was also crazier that first half of the game too. AND I did seriously believe my LC and Llama connection. Lol.

I replaced back into I assume either SD or DP's role and I had an Orange role. I knew my strategy, given I could win with anyone, would be best to seem open to aligning with anyone, but secretly align myself immediately and with 100% trust to the person I thought had the best chance to survive until the end, given persuasiveness, likelihood to be lynched or NKed, as well as perceived resources. I debated between TH, MM, and LC, but in the end went with LC. I think I chose wisely.

Thanks so much to LC and BR for duplicating my trust and never doubting my true alliance! The MM lynch was the turning point, for sure. That one made me nervous. After that, I figured we probably had this game wrapped up. It is so great to win alongside Bass, my neutral partner in crime, and LoRab and bea as well!

bea wrote:So as.long.as.lorabs trade.is.good.we.are.all.good? I have nothing but.my starting.property to trade.

I believe Bass and I also have to trade something with you, but we'll see what boo says. If so, we can just trade something back and forth.

fingersplints wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

fingersplints wrote:things should never be expected to be pretty clear to me :/

Are you LoRab's partner or not?

No.

That is sad indeed.

Everything will be explained at endgame.

I'm just rolling with whatever LC and BR roll with at this point. It doesn't make a difference to me whether I win with just them and Bass or more than them. But I will definitely not argue with a way to end the game more quickly, as it seems LoRab and I suppose bea are willing to do.

fingersplints wrote:things should never be expected to be pretty clear to me :/

Are you LoRab's partner or not?

LoRab wrote:OK...so, MP, I'll accept your trade. I only have one property other than my own to trade, so I'll give you that. Then trade what you give me with BR?

Does that work for everyone?

After that, as a sign of good will, will you trade my property back to me, MP?

Yep. Done.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:wait I'm confused.

You need to trade with BR, LoRab, and LoRab's partner, if you haven't already.

The Captain Planet power allows the ability to link two color teams together.

Oh ok. My only question is if we traded with someone in a color set do we have to trade with everyone in that color set to win with that color set?

I believe we have to trade with each individual, yes. But I suppose boo could confirm this?

This is assuming LoRab and LoRab's partner agree to this arrangement. If not, well, things will get interesting.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:wait I'm confused.

You need to trade with BR, LoRab, and LoRab's partner, if you haven't already.

The Captain Planet power allows the ability to link two color teams together.

Black Rock wrote:

LoRab wrote:Checking with my associate.

Does your associate have a name?

We could play Hangman

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Who doesn't love a good game of Hangman?

And if you don't want to part with something, I'm more than open to trading something and trading it right back. I don't care. I just need to trade. But if you instead choose to not win with me, that's your decision.

LoRab wrote:Didn't know where you stood mp and kind of like my holdings. I am mulling. And need to discuss with my partner.

Choose wisely.

I just need to make sure I've traded with the necessary parties before this ends, that's all. Shouldn't be hard though.

Black Rock wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Sorry about that, Hanna. The cards didn't fall that way.

My friendship request was denied; I have resent a new one. I need it to be accepted in order to participate fully in this arrangement.

Who denied you?

LoRab, but I figure it's because she wasn't aware of my place in this arrangement. Honestly, I don't really know, since I can win with anyone, so I was kind of surprised anyone would deny me offering up any property.

I also need to know whether splints or bea is partnered with LoRab.

Sorry about that, Hanna. The cards didn't fall that way.

My friendship request was denied; I have resent a new one. I need it to be accepted in order to participate fully in this arrangement.

HannaK wrote:Oh and sorry for double posting but I was flying pretty below the radar before today so why would I 'risk' that strategy if I were part of the blue team and close to winning. It's the opposite: I really think LC is part of the blue team that has the kill and is thus close to winning this thing

This is WIFOM though.

And it seems WAY more likely to me that the Blues would want to get someone mislynched today, would they not? All they have to do is get someone nonBlue lynched today, NK someone, and then the game should be within grasp.

Why do you think LC is party of the blue team? Because TH said so? You haven't really explained it.

I definitely think you're Blue.

fingersplints wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm voting Hanna for now. I don't like how inactive and go-with-the-flow Hanna and splints have been, and now that Blue is killing, they're way on the offensive. Smells fishy.

I have not been "go-with-the-flow"

Also, maybe this is true, but your posting frequency seems to have jumped just now too, although not near as to the degree of Hanna's. That comment was really much more directed at her, but I thought it applied to you somewhat too.

HannaK wrote:Oh sorry MP: I missed your post about saying that I am part of the blues, any reason for that because I can assure you that I am not

I suppose I misunderstood you re: LC and Llama, but you voted them alongside me for so long, so it just struck me that you've been changing your tune.

I find it most odd that you and splints have come out and are incriminating LC with strong certainty that he's Blue. I don't know. I just don't see how one could narrow down something like that with such confidence, especially when you in particular have seemed so unsure for most of the game.

I thought I could pin down colors, but it's been more difficult than I realized. Unless I am right about LC and Llama, then at least I had one victory.

I just don't see any reason to believe LC is Blue, but I think there's at least something behind his theory to be Green.

fingersplints wrote:[
"so much?" I agree with Hanna in regards to one thing. That LC isn't a green and is more likely in the group that has the kill. I will consider what you are saying that maybe it is her group with it. TH did go on for days about LC being the most powerful and then is killed. I do not have bts with Hanna.

I am not sure what you mean by power play. The numbers are dwindling, and with the nature of this game if I don't put forth my ideas I could be next. Just trying to play the game

She did say that. If you believe her. It seems like that money would have been used up by now unless she was gaining some other way.

Well, that's true. I just mean "so much" like all of a sudden you both are putting forth an idea with very strong certainty. Seems odd to me, especially since it's so sudden. Why do you think LC is a Blue? And just because TH said that, I mean, he could have been right, but if he was a pink, how would he know that? And when asked by BR, he just said it was because of LC's extra votes and because he thought LC purchased the beatdown, right? Unless I'm remembering something wrong. Truth is, how could he know that? I think he said he just strongly suspected it. It could be true, but just because TH went on about it for days and then was killed doesn't confirm it; it could just as easily be a setup.

If you don't have BTSC with Hanna, think about it and let me know what you think. I mean, the way she has come in here and her most recent posts. Then contrast it with all her posts before, content and frequency. Doesn't it seem odd to you?

Re: power play, I meant the following: Like because the numbers are dwindling and TH and MM are dead and the kill has passed, if you and Hanna were both on the Blues, it would benefit you HEAVILY to come in here and lynch LC, because then you have a really good chance of winning the game thereafter. Combined with the change in Hanna's level of certainty and her post frequency, it seems a likely theory. If you take yourself out of the equation, what do you think of it? It's just what my gut is telling me, frankly.

And good point re: bea. She could have lied about that. I will consider. Are there any other points of consideration that make you think she should go?

OK, now, studying and putting away my laptop. See you folks later.

In roughly just over a week, I'll be done with my first semester of PhD. I have to keep telling myself that.

Curious what everyone else is thinking though. I'm open to change my vote. But that's what my gut is STRONGLY telling me and I can't ignore it.

Gotta go study and stuff, be back later!

I'm voting Hanna for now. I don't like how inactive and go-with-the-flow Hanna and splints have been, and now that Blue is killing, they're way on the offensive. Smells fishy.

fingersplints wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:This smells fishy to me.

I think it's much more likely LC was aligned with Llama, making him a Green.

It's odd that Hanna, who has voiced little for most of the game beyond just going with the flow, would propose such a line of thinking.

You're still on about that then I do not think LC is a green, since I still disagree that he obviously had btsc with llama. I agree with Hanna that he is more likely on the team with the kill.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Why bea, splints?

She has been fairly inactive, yet survived landing on the hotel.
I need to go back over her to see if I see a possible TH connection there. Him having traded off a bunch of stuff is making sense to me. Although, could he have traded off properties as well?

Well, I thought maybe I was wrong about it, but upon reflection it really seems to make sense.

Why do you agree with Hanna so much?

You both appear to be making some kind of power play.

Regarding bea, that's a good point. But didn't she say she won the $50 for every player power earlier?

HannaK wrote:

Turnip Head wrote: I guess we'll see if anyone inherits the kill. I don't know if I believe LC when he says he didn't bid on Beatdown. The reds spent a lot of money on houses, hotels, and Epi's Chance card, while the baby blues were frugal with their house purchases. These were the two established teams when Beatdown was put up for auction. Smart money says the blues at least tried to get the power.

^Also this makes me think there is a real possibility LC is blue and that his team is in the possession of the beatdown power

I agree obviously that the Blues got the beatdown.

I just don't think it was LC.

I think it was you.

HannaK wrote:Okay I've been trying to wait around for BWT to come around and answer to the case that's been made but I gotta leave now and so far that case looks the most convincing to me, especially because if (and that already is an if) Long Con is in a set with Llama and another person, they dont have to be a mafia team and especially considering how strong the baddies are right now in terms of money and knowledge, I think lynching (potential) baddies is a priority to lynching potential indysets so I am gonna go ahead and vote for BWT.

HannaK wrote:As I see no point in randomly picking a low poster, I am gonna vote for llama who's evidence for suspicions I do not find convincing and I feel llama might be bad or at the very least potentially part of a LMS group (and considering there are so few baddies left the chances of lynching someone of a LMS group look much better imo)

HannaK wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote: LC and Llama's actions time and time again convince me that they're not acting in the civvies' best interests. They NO U me, Llama is willing to lynch just about anyone that isn't him or LC, and their posts have been full of behavior that fails to satisfy me as genuine.

The only solid reasoning I have right now is that I find the case against LC convincing that he is very likely to be part of a LMS group and as a sole civvie, this is worrying me the most right now, but hey if someone has a really solid case against a player being mafia I am all ears

I thought you were one of my main supporters of the LC/Llama connection.

HannaK wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:This smells fishy to me.

I think it's much more likely LC was aligned with Llama, making him a Green.

It's odd that Hanna, who has voiced little for most of the game beyond just going with the flow, would propose such a line of thinking.

with so few people left and the fact that TH who has repeatedly warned us about LC becoming too powerful is now dead i dunno, guess it makes sense to express a strong opinion for once.
I wasn't sure back then about the whole llama / LC thing and I am not now so I would not say he's likely to be part of the greens

But wait a minute.

That's not what you've said before.

Why bea, splints?

This smells fishy to me.

I think it's much more likely LC was aligned with Llama, making him a Green.

It's odd that Hanna, who has voiced little for most of the game beyond just going with the flow, would propose such a line of thinking.

HannaK wrote:RIP TH

Is there any evidence/reason why Vermont cant be LC, because that seems like the obvious Vermont candidate to me

Why do you say that?

Black Rock wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Rezzie rezzie rezz please.

No.

Black Rock wrote:I feel like I have been talking to you all night in this game and Cars.

I know, right?

That could be... hard to say. I really don't know myself. But I wouldn't necessarily be averse to lynching a quieter player.

Long Con wrote:Indeed, I called him out from Day 1.. maybe Day 0.

Let this be another example for the ages of how a baddie expressed trust in a Civvie in order to gain trust back.

Black Rock wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:So Vermont is killing? Who is most likely to be the killer?

I truly don't know.

I don't either... Bah. I was hoping at least one kill would go away, but I guess it still could have, right?

I feel more comfortable with WW gone, he already killed me once. I guess Mafia wouldn't be Mafia without a NK.

Yeah, I guess.

Do you think lynching MM was a mistake? Oh wait, that was directed towards my second sentence. I imagine you shouldn't feel bummed, you are in the best place right now aren't you? Vermont doesn't need you dead.

I was just reviewing day 3, because I couldn't remember why we were so lucky with our lynches this game. I have to tip my hat to LC, he called MM way back then.

No, lynching MM was definitely not a mistake.

Well, what do you think? If we can't nail down Vermont, how do we decide who to lynch?

Black Rock wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:So Vermont is killing? Who is most likely to be the killer?

I truly don't know.

I don't either... Bah. I was hoping at least one kill would go away, but I guess it still could have, right?

I feel more comfortable with WW gone, he already killed me once. I guess Mafia wouldn't be Mafia without a NK.

Yeah, I guess.

Black Rock wrote:Our votes are still changeable right?

I would think so. I'm afraid to test it until I have some idea where I'm going to vote though.

Black Rock wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:So Vermont is killing? Who is most likely to be the killer?

I truly don't know.

I don't either... Bah. I was hoping at least one kill would go away, but I guess it still could have, right?

So Vermont is killing? Who is most likely to be the killer?

Wow, RIP TH. Wasn't expecting that... Weird.

Long Con wrote:I hope I didn't get the end time wrong.

D'oh.

Water Works - $3
Oriental Avenue - $3
Illinois Avenue - $3
Virginia Avenue - $3
North Carolina Avenue - $3
Pennsylvania Avenue - $3
Kentucky Avenue - $3

FINALLY got home after a long day. Don't tell me I missed this again.

Turnip Head wrote:Bass or MP, do either of you know where the Short Line is?

I just traded for it at the end of D11.

Why? Do you want it? If so, I'll be happy to offer it up for trade.

I'm busy all day studying, but I'll be back later tonight.

Yay! BIH MM but it was awesome playing with you!And super awesome and appropriate song posting. Approved.

Bass, don't worry about it. You made an assessment, and even though I made a totally different decision, as someone in your position I understand why you did that. I don't know if it matters.

And HOLY HENRY COW, all those properties!!!