The Syndicate

Ricochet wrote:I'm happy to report that This Must Be the Place (Naive Melody) now occupies the third spot in my favourite TH songs list, behind The Great Curve and New Feeling.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Had you not rezzed me (or BWT who it was at the time I think), things may have been different.

I hope you don't plan on trying to break Jay's posting record in future games.
No, I only hope to improve my game... mostly by tunneling less. That's goal #1.

As much as I'd like to try to break Jay's posting record, I'd certainly fail out of the PhD program if I did... and be committed to an asylum for overly obsessive behavior.

"Man Fails to Comprehend Difference between Mafia Game and Real Life"
It depends though. I tried to break out of tunneling in this game, namely after seaside was lynched. As a result, I felt incredibly waffly, and acutally had a difficult time committing to reads. It also resulted in me dropping my long-time suspicion of a player who almost won it for mafia.

It'd be nice to be an effective tunneler.

That's very true; there's a fine line between tunneler and wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey noncommital. The hardest is walking down that exact line, since it's easy to stumble onto one side or the other.

Just have to give you all one last round of applause. I really still can't believe the amount of effort exhibited here.

This game has over twice as many posts as each of the 2013 and 2014 Game of Champions threads.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Had you not rezzed me (or BWT who it was at the time I think), things may have been different.

I hope you don't plan on trying to break Jay's posting record in future games.

No, I only hope to improve my game... mostly by tunneling less. That's goal #1.

As much as I'd like to try to break Jay's posting record, I'd certainly fail out of the PhD program if I did... and be committed to an asylum for overly obsessive behavior.

"Man Fails to Comprehend Difference between Mafia Game and Real Life"

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Well I did win in Cars, but I replaced in late in that game, and as a civilian who was rezzed, so I didn't have to prove myself at all, nor do any work.

Isn't that the best kind of game? :P

I also blocked that game out of my memory.

Future games will see a new and improved MP.

I'm hoping, anyway.

I remember struggling to even win a game for the longest time... let alone as a civilian. My first win as a civilian was probably over two years or so after I started playing.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I just realized, this is my first win in a full game as a civilian. Thanks fellow civs.

Wow, seriously? Nicely done.

LOL, the vowel movement. That was great.

Epignosis wrote:Roger Rabbit bitchez

I prefer to block that one out of my memory.

Elohcin wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Elohcin wrote:This game was fun for the most part for what little time I played. My one suggestion is to make all roles objective rather than subjective. My role being subjective was a bit frustrating.
Your role was definitely experimental; I don't plan on using anything like that again. Was worth trying out though.
And at least you didn't explode randomly this time.
Yes, these are the kinds of roles I land in your games, aren't they . I think its a good role though, the laughing one not the exploding one. It just needed to be made objective. For instance, anytime a player made someone else respond with a ' ' would have worked.

LOL, yeah, now that you mention it, it does seem you have continuously landed experimental roles. Although you did have Ogmo in Super Meat Boy, which... wasn't too weird (comparatively).

Yeah, I agree, on reflection it makes more sense to have setup in that fashion. I didn't want to lift it straight from Roger Rabbit though (which is similar to what you suggest here), so that's why I put the subjective spin on it. Maybe we'll see the

role again one of these days...

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Elohcin wrote:This game was fun for the most part for what little time I played. My one suggestion is to make all roles objective rather than subjective. My role being subjective was a bit frustrating.
Your role was definitely experimental; I don't plan on using anything like that again. Was worth trying out though.

And at least you didn't explode randomly this time.

Elohcin wrote:This game was fun for the most part for what little time I played. My one suggestion is to make all roles objective rather than subjective. My role being subjective was a bit frustrating.

Your role was definitely experimental; I don't plan on using anything like that again. Was worth trying out though.

Ricochet wrote:Game
Votes
The LC interaction spectrum analysis

And as a special feature, the writing in-character quotes I compiled. Interestingly, I never checked the last two TH albums (got lazy), except for remembering at one point the "I wish I had a lawnmower" line from (Nothing But) Flowers, off of Naked.

As always,

is necessary.

Ricochet wrote:What, how this did work? The recipients were randomly chosen?

Night 11 - "Radio Head" -- Ricochet -- passive unbeknownst insanification
Que-ce que c'est?

I never received this.

"Radio Head" was the effect of the "The Overload".

People who were afflicted with insanity (you, Russ) were not made aware.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Thanks, MP, the only answer that doesn't fully adress the question is the ACEO one. I meant which players were chosen, targeted by the song choices and when? Again, JJJ only told me about the first four Nights.
Night 1 - "Cities" -- a2thezebra -- Never got to use, was supposed to track N2, but N2 didn't happen
Night 2 - "Girls..." -- N/A -- Night 2 skipped
Night 3 - "Moon Rocks" -- Matt F -- checked whether Golden was Uh-Oh
Night 4 - "The Overload" -- Macdougall, Matt F, RadicalFuzz, TheFloyd73, Golden
Night 5 - "Radio Head" -- Russtifinko -- passive unbeknownst insanification
Night 7 - "Mr. Jones" -- JaggedJimmyJay -- Never got to use, Jay had no night role power to double
Night 9 - "The Overload" -- Ricochet, Strawhenge, Matt F, DrWilgy, JaggedJimmyJay
Night 10 - "Cities" -- RadicalFuzz -- Never got to use, since he died
Night 11 - "Radio Head" -- Ricochet -- passive unbeknownst insanification
Night 12 - "Girls..." -- N/A
Night 13 - "Stay Up Late"
Night 14 - "Mr. Jones"

Note that these were the songs selected, not the effects from those songs (since they were mismatched).

There's those. With regards to Moon Rocks...

Matt F used one against MacDougall on Night 5.
Strawhenge used one against JaggedJimmyJay on Night 10.
DrWilgy used one against JaggedJimmyJay on Night 10.
JJJ used one against MM on Night 11.

As to usage, let me look into that now...

Ricochet wrote:Thanks, MP, the only answer that doesn't fully adress the question is the ACEO one. I meant which players were chosen, targeted by the song choices and when? Again, JJJ only told me about the first four Nights.

Night 1 - "Cities" -- a2thezebra
Night 2 - "Girls..." -- N/A
Night 3 - "Moon Rocks" -- Matt F
Night 4 - "The Overload" -- Macdougall, Matt F, RadicalFuzz, TheFloyd73, Golden
Night 5 - "Radio Head" -- Russtifinko
Night 7 - "Mr. Jones" -- JaggedJimmyJay
Night 9 - "The Overload" -- Ricochet, Strawhenge, Matt F, DrWilgy, JaggedJimmyJay
Night 10 - "Cities" -- RadicalFuzz
Night 11 - "Radio Head" -- Ricochet
Night 12 - "Girls..." -- N/A
Night 13 - "Stay Up Late"
Night 14 - "Mr. Jones"

Note that these were the songs selected, not the effects from those songs (since they were mismatched).

Ricochet wrote:

Thanks, everyone...

Thanks, MP, the only answer that doesn't fully adress the question is the ACEO one. I meant which players were chosen, targeted by the song choices and when? Again, JJJ only told me about the first four Nights.

Also, lol, I corrected my math, but still posted that comment. Nah, it's all good.

No problem!

Got it, let me get that for you. Might not be for a bit though, since I've got a busy day today.

Not sure if that adequately addresses your questions, Rico, so let me know.

Ricochet wrote:Who bought Fuzz's votes and when? (except the times mentioned)

Night 3: a2thezebra, force vote Devin -- didn't go through since a2thezebra died
Night 4: Golden, force vote Bullzeye -- didn't go through since Golden died
Night 5: MM, force vote DrWilgy
Night 7: Ricochet, force vote motel room
Night 9: MM, force vote RadicalFuzz
Night 10: JJJ, force vote Bullzeye

Something doesn't add up about Diiny's N9 ratio being 1:1, except my math is shit. (which is always possible) It obviously messes with every subsequent double-kill night. Can I have a rundown of the SYN-RYM losses?

Are you taking into account Choutas's ability?

Not sure what you're looking for re: rundown, so let me know.

Can I get a rundown of the ACEO songs and effects (except what JJJ already sent me - Night 1 through 4)?

"The Overload" effect was Moon Rocks
"Cities" effect was Radio Head
"Moon Rocks" effect was Who Is It?
"Stay Up Late" effect was Girls... -- this never was able to go into effect
"Girls..." effect was Cities -- this never was able to go into effect
"Radio Head" effect was The Overload
"Mr. Jones" effect was Stay Up Late
"Who Is It?" effect was Mr. Jones -- this never was able to go into effect

Ricochet wrote:Oh.

Who else did the Mafia target, except when it was mentioned by MP? Which of the mafia, when, how?

Night 1:
Black Rock -- JJJ
MacDougall -- No action
DrWilgy -- kill K4J

Night 3:
Bullzeye -- triple RDW, force Fuzz to vote JJJ
Black Rock -- missing PM
MacDougall -- No action
MacDougall -- kill a2thezebra

Night 4:
Bullzeye -- triple Fuzz, force splints to vote Golden
Russtifinko -- randomized to sig
MacDougall -- Golden

Night 5:
Bullzeye -- triple splints, force espers to vote Elo
Black Rock -- RadicalFuzz
MacDougall -- No action
Floyd -- kill Matt F

Night 7:
Bullzeye -- triple Elo, force sig to vote Choutas
Floyd -- kill Epignosis

Night 9:
Bullzeye -- N/A
DrWilgy -- kill bcornett24

Night 10:
Bullzeye -- N/A
Russtifinko -- Ricochet

Night 11:
DrWilgy -- kill JJJ

Night 12:
Russtifinko -- Diiny

Night 13:
Russtifinko -- kill MM

Night 14:
Russtifinko -- randomized to MM

Ricochet wrote:A few more thing I may ask yourselves. Back later.

Who was challenged alonside JJJ by Sorsha (Found a Job) on Night 1? And Night 3, was that really Matt vs Mac?
Night 1: JaggedJimmyJay and Long Con
Night 3: Matt F and a2thezebra

Who survived N4 SK kill?
JaggedJimmyJay.

On what Night did splints question JJJ?
Night 5.

Did Devin intercept anything? On what Night?
Night 1:
Spoiler: show
MovingPictures07 wrote: Juliets: that bea comment, while not really true, sounds just like something bea would say - i don't see her as suspicious for it

Night 3:
Spoiler: show
MovingPictures07 wrote: HamburgerBoy: I think the best thing coming from this is that it would seem to confirm golden as town

Night 4:
Spoiler: show
MovingPictures07 wrote: Sorsha: I think Mac, golden, elo, Matt are civ

Did Roxy duplicate any Night Power onto another civ?
Nope.

Which players did b24 protect and when? (except the ones already mentioned by MP, during crucial Nights)

Night 1: JJJ and Golden
Night 3: missed PM
Night 4: Elohcin and Epignosis
Night 5: JJJ and Floyd
Night 7: Epignosis and Matt F
Night 9: JJJ and Strawhenge

Which players did Matt target and when? (except the times already mentioned by MP)

Seems Matt F already answered this.

Which players did Straw target and when? (except the times mentioned)

Night 1: sig and a2thezebra
Night 3: JJJ and Ricochet
Night 4: missed PM
Night 5: auto-role blocked from missing Night 4
Night 7: Choutas and MM
Night 9: Fuzz and MM
Night 10: motel room and Ricochet

Floyd would have killed himself N5? Or is that Floyd wanted to kill Matt, but Matt redirected it to JJJ.

The underlined.

bcornett24 wrote:
NIGHT 5

Matt F saves the day! He redirects TheFloyd73's target from himself (unknowingly) to JJJ, who survived the NK.
Interestingly, Russtifinko is the player selected by the ACEOs for "Radio Head".
Was my protection of Jay what saved him from the redirection on this night?

It would have, but Jay already had auto-protection (since he was Blind, he couldn't be nightkilled).

Choutas wrote:Good game everyone.
Serious questions that need to be answered. Which players were the failed kills and why did they fail?
Special mention to Diiny who had an impossible task.

Night 4 -- SK kill failed against JaggedJimmyJay, since he was Blind.
Night 5 -- Mafia kill failed against Matt F because Matt F redirected Floyd's target to JaggedJimmyJay, who couldn't be NKed.
Night 7 -- Epignosis survived BOTH kills because he was protected by bcornett24.
Night 11 -- Mafia kill failed against JaggedJimmyJay. SK kill failed against Metalmarsh89, who avoided it due to a 40% evasion (And She Was).
Night 12 -- SK kill failed against JaggedJimmyJay.
Night 13 -- Mafia kill failed against Metalmarsh89, 60% evasion.

fingersplints wrote:I'm still a little confused as to how I died. I guess I was mod killed after all? Idk

You were killed by No Compassion for failing the posting challenge(s). You would have been modkilled at the same time if not for that though.

Ricochet wrote:Alright, I'mma start dumping spreadsheet-related questions:

Did the Doc get paralysed by killing Swamp until N3 (including it) or N4 (two Nights that actually occurred)?

Night 2 (didn't happen though) and Night 3.

Epignosis wrote:I refused to vote on such bullshit.

Admit it, you wish you had won.

Alright, so you've voted for Civilian MVP and Mafia MVP. Here are the results...

drum roll please...

Civilian MVP:

We actually have a tie! Therefore, two players will be crowned the Civilian MVP of Talking Heads Mafia! They are:

Spoiler: show

and

Spoiler: show

Congratulations to both players! Wear your banners with pride.

Mafia MVP:

Congratulations to our Mafia MVP...

Spoiler: show

Claim that banner, you FEB, you!

A job well done to all MVPs!

Alright, I'm here!

Going to prepare for the MVP reveal... then I'll address posts and questions.

Good morning, ex-players!

FYI I will be absent until 6:45PM Eastern (15 minutes or so before the MVP announcement), since Wednesdays are long days for me (I teach starting at 7:30AM and do not finish my last class until 5:15PM). I'll keep talking postgame with you folks, answer questions, and respond to posts then.

Don't forget to vote for Civilian MVP and Mafia MVP!

Also, new poll! Just for fun and one last homage to RYM.

I'm signing out for the night. I'll be around tomorrow evening to answer more questions.

Alright, first page posts are updated now. I think I've revealed everything important as well. Be sure to throw whatever questions you all still have for me at me, and definitely keep discussing the game!

Turnip Head wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Ricochet wrote:I mean, com'on, he's Drugs. He can't do shit until N15. That's enough time to even lynch JJJ out of fun.
I've been lynched twice ever as a townie and when this game is over the number will still be two.

It was hilarious. At one point in the Spectator Chat, I was the only person who thought you were civ

Grats winners and well played everyone! This was a fun game to follow along and spectate on. I sort of trailed off toward the end but tried to at least skim, and I can say that everyone played amazingly.

Also, this was true! Based on the atmosphere in the spectator chat and thread, I really thought JJJ was going to be lynched. I was gone for a while though, and then I came to the thread and saw seaside had the most votes and was like "WTF"?

MacDougall wrote:I am going to make a loser banner if any of our scum team want it. I deserve it.

Don't feel down; you played an excellent game, Mac, and it was awesome to see you in action for the first time. I, for one, am really glad you seem to have stuck around here. Can't wait to play a game with you.

a2thezebra wrote:bump

MovingPictures07 wrote:Alright, so before we get too deep into postgame discussion, I want to make sure that we have The Syndicate's first-ever MVP Awards!!!

Sloonei and I will be handing out shiny MVP banners/awards to TWO players.

All players have a vote! Please PM both me and Sloonei ASAP with the player you think should win each award. You should thus be submitting TWO (2) names, one civilian and one mafia.

Meanwhile, while Sloonei and I wait on receiving these PMs, we can keep talking postgame.

I will give spectators and players to submit these votes until 7:00PM Eastern tomorrow (November 11th). The MVP announcement will occur then!

Sloonei wrote:What if I'm a co-host? Can I still vote?

You know what?

If you're a spectator reading this, feel free to vote as well! I know I said players before, but Sloonei and I will take MVP votes by both spectators and players.

Ricochet wrote:How close are we to MVP reveals? I think I really need to go to bed, I incidentally have my first Accompaniment classes tomorrow at the Faculty, so I'd better not get fired from day 1.

Sloonei and I need more votes first! Come on, players! Send in those MVP votes!

MacDougall wrote:I found it amusing how Syndicate civs vociferously defended LC and them RYM civs did the same for me aside from Strawhenge who by golly I thought I could convince. Black Rock was ready to vote to save me literally asked in BTSC and I got called into a meeting 10 minutes before deadline and came back minutes after it haha. Wilgy convinced her not to bcuz plans or something.

I know, wasn't it crazy? It seems the sites were better at reading folks from the opposite site this game!

So not only do all of the civilian winners get those awesome banners, but every single one of you is now eligible to participate in The Syndicate's 2015 Game of Champions, if you weren't already.

Dang it! Golden beat me to it!

Russtifinko wrote:RYMers, you all are super fun. A bit intense with the posting rate, maybe, but really, really fun. Hopefully we can get together for some more in the future.

Uh, we better!

I hope all of the RYMers enjoyed this game, the behemoth that it was, and please feel free to stick around for as many games as you'd like. We have plenty of games that I am sure you all would enjoy.

We'll make sure to arrange a formal crossover again in the future as well.

You all should now be able to see the Day 0 subforums. If you can't and want to, PM me.

a2thezebra wrote:Ricochet deserves that Live Wire award. I was beginning to worry about his obsession with TH lyrics lol

linki - Strawhenge

It's funny because I had planned that award well before the game started, but Ricochet's obsession with lyrics was already readily apparent in the Day 0 thread before I could even announce the contest.

Speaking of which, let me get those old Day 0 threads visible for everyone to view. I'll be right back.

I really can't thank all of you enough. So many of you played your freaking hearts out this game. You really made this the best crossover game I could have imagined.

It's going to be a tough call between this game and Death Note for my favorite game I've ever hosted, and that says quite a lot.

In fact, here is the PM I sent folks once they died:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Since you are dead, you may now enter the Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90) spectator chat.

Here is your link to the Spectator Chat. You may enter the room at any time during the game's duration. The chatroom is spoiler-free, as in Sloonei and I will not reveal anything about the game that the players do not know. However, as the game progresses, dead players will be joining the room, and may be free to reveal what they want (or lie about what they want).

The password to the room is SlooneiMcSloon. The password is case sensitive. Please do not provide the URL or password to anyone. If someone you are talking does not yet have access to the chat and wants it, tell them to PM me or Sloonei, and we will give them the information.

If you have questions, let me or Sloonei know, either via PM or in the spectator chat.

Have fun spectating and chatting!

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Link to spectator chat maybe?
Spectator Chat
password?

Haha, my bad! I forgot about that.

SlooneiMcSloon.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Link to spectator chat maybe?

Spectator Chat

Rico, considering I had LC make 5 banners already, I didn't think to ask him for a "Live Wire" award one, but I will get back to you on that.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Thanks hosts for such a wonderful game, and for giving me a fitting role. I enjoyed this game a lot. It's been a wild ride, and it's crazy trying to be the guy who looks bad enough not to nightkill but good enough not to lynch. I made it a long way like that, but making it through the early going was key for me.

Also, who wins the award for the the "Live Wire"? I hope I didn't have to play the whole game with red underwear on my face for nothing.
Oh yeah, I owe you an explanation.

I tried to get you lynched late because I roleblocked you the night when both factions failed a separate kill. I combined that with Strawhenge's vendetta (he also received a unique roleblock shot from the ACEOs and went after you when both bad teams failed to kill the same guy) and thought it was too big to be a coincidence.

Haha, I facepalmed to Sloonei when all of that went down; Metalmarsh was really unlucky with people thinking he was a killer based on Moon Rock or role power results, that's for sure.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Thanks hosts for such a wonderful game, and for giving me a fitting role. I enjoyed this game a lot. It's been a wild ride, and it's crazy trying to be the guy who looks bad enough not to nightkill but good enough not to lynch. I made it a long way like that, but making it through the early going was key for me.

Also, who wins the award for the the "Live Wire"? I hope I didn't have to play the whole game with red underwear on my face for nothing.

You played your role incredibly well... it definitely had a huge impact on the civilians' success. But so did many others... Epi, JJJ, Matt F, Rico... you all deserve this banner for sure.

Ricochet wins that, though you and Zebra gave him a run for his money!

Diiny wrote:Wait.

Wait.

...

Are you telling me Wilgy and J weren't lovers?!

Nope! Nice theory though.

Russtifinko wrote:Ugh, Radio Head.....the worst song ever performed by Talking Heads, ever.

Hmmm, Mp I would have strongly objected to that way of handling the Fuzz mistake, since an extra civ with 7 players left is a WAY smaller deal than one with 2 left. Glad it didn't come to that. Regardless, it's comforting in a weird way to know I didn't actually come as close as I thought. Otherwise it would've been truly heart-wrenching.

Thanks so much to MP and Sloonei for hosting, and to my awesome team for all the help getting me to a position where we had a shot to win! You guys were baller, and very cool with my off-kilter strategy. Except for you, Wilgy, since you made me Radio Head. Jk.

It sucks to blow through all the civ goodwill I've accumulated over the years only to lose, but I'm honored I even came close against arguably the 3 most impressive civvie performances to ever happen in a game (and all in the same game, too!). Hats off to you guys. It was fun, even though it very nearly consumed my life.

Fitting that it was your demise, wasn't it?

I really didn't know how to handle the Fuzz situation. It sucked. I have never made a mistake like that before. The spectator chat really burned me here and I scrambled literally for hours that evening to figure out how to not unfairly disadvantage the civilians or the mafia. You can bet I'm also glad it didn't come down to it!

I want to give a shout out to my mafia team as well. You guys really did not have an easy battle ahead of you, and you almost pulled it off.

Sloonei wrote:y'all don't even know how great it was to see mac and choutas back in action.

Yes! I can't emphasize this enough either. I am really glad I have gotten to know Choutas and MacDougall this game, and was absolutely floored to find out two RYM mafia veterans came back just for this game.

I really couldn't be happier with the RYM turnout we got this game. You all rock so much. Thanks for coming over and signing up to this weird site to play mafia with us!

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