The Syndicate

I needed three fully evolved people to be lynched while I was alive.

Or not you. I dunno who it is.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:10 am Wait did boo just hint mewtwo.

I need to read this first

Nah, I'm just a masochist in screw it all mode. It's pure chance at this point, I just don't feel the need to overthink this any more. It just hasn't worked all game.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:39 am I get it, you don't care who gets lynched today do you boo?

Pretty much. It's unlikely to help me however it goes, you're just slightly ahead on the odds playing out for me, I think.

Basically comes down to you now gman. I can't imagine ddl is going to move his vote, and I'm not going to unless he does. My best bet is to vote with him, and you, if possible.

Or you and wilgy can vote for him or me together, and force a tie and see what happens. For what it's worth, forcing the tie on me would help no one, whereas doing it on ddl might work out for you. I dunno. You might as well flip a coin to decide at this point, unless you know more than you have let on.

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:29 am In looking back, Dyslexicon voted without posting the day before Neverwhere did. Coincidence? I think not.

Boo, what makes you suspect Wilgy now after being on DDL's case for so long?

Neverwhere flipping civ isn't at all what I expected, so I'm changing gears.

I honestly have no idea which of you is bad at this point. So, honestly, I'm going with wilgy because I think it's the best way I can help myself, but there's just as good a chance it ruins things for me. Although the odds are lousy no matter what I do, so... Meh. It's been a fun game, I just played the early part poorly. I kept expecting the NK strategy to change, and it really burned me that until neverwhere, it stayed the same.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:15 am

boo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:38 am Huh... Well, well played whoever you are, I was certain neverwhere was the last.

When did you become sure of that? And how?

When she said she was silenced and forced to vote when as far as I can tell that hadnt happened up until this point. I thought she was lying.

I'm going to give wilgy a vote and see where that takes us.

Huh... Well, well played whoever you are, I was certain neverwhere was the last.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:54 pm Shit. I fell asleep.

Sorry Quin. I voted you prodding. I didn't mean to leave it there.

boo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:55 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:27 pm I didn't want to repeat previous votes and she was Next Best Thing.

Also I was under the impression I had given more votes to Wilgy.

That doesn't make sense. Why not repeat someone you had previously chosen, when by that point you did not trust dizzy at all and did trust other living people.

I think you're bad, and your list is fake (makes no sense for a baddie to keep choosing anyone once both their teammates are dead).

Voting ddl.

Odd. What do you think about G-Man's list?

I think it no longer matters. The civs just lost. Mostly because at this point, they deserve to, imo.

(sigh)

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:56 pm Am I going to have to vote self-pres?

Well I doubt ddl is going to vote for himself... So yes?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:27 pm I didn't want to repeat previous votes and she was Next Best Thing.

Also I was under the impression I had given more votes to Wilgy.

That doesn't make sense. Why not repeat someone you had previously chosen, when by that point you did not trust dizzy at all and did trust other living people.

I think you're bad, and your list is fake (makes no sense for a baddie to keep choosing anyone once both their teammates are dead).

Voting ddl.

Why'd you give dizzy a point n7 ddl?

Can't revote epi. I checked the results but now I'm locked out.

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:35 pm To the DDL voters: On Day 6, he was quite invested in the DF lynch. He re-voted DF pretty much as soon as Day 7 started. His lynch yesterday was not inevitable. Do you believe that was a bus?

Yup.

I think I have to go ddl. I have never felt good about him, and I was trying to bait the kill to go after him, me, or Tink. If it was me or Tink, my thinking was it'd look bad on him. So... It's an entire gut feeling. I'm not loving it, and I could easily be swayed on switching it, but I just want to get it in, because I expect we might see the last baddie have a card left to play, and I don't want them or mewtwo doing something sneaky that goes unopposed.

What's weird to me about that isn't that it was tink, but that that was her role. I was certain she was either mew or mewtwo. Hmm.

I think it's just another boring, easy kill. Same as they've always done.

Can be looked at any way to make any of you look bad imo. Wifom-y.

Gee, you jerks want to quit saying you have no interest in lynching me? With how uncreative these NKs have been, you're covering me in bright red paint with this stuff.

Or I'm baiting the baddie into targeting me cause you ain't gonna get me anyways?

Or it's the first and also the second?

Or neither?

Anyone else want some wine, drinking all alone is lonely.

I'm inclined to lynch the non-tink inactives, since my suspicion for a while has been the third member would be in that group.

Dom was my best guess. Quin hasn't made me feel good, and while not an inactive... I think we should start there probably.

Then I'd have to go over neverwhere and dizzy to say if i lean one way or the other if quin didn't pan out. But I'll get a look over them before tomorrow anyways, and maybe there will be something that makes them seem like a better choice than quin.

Ddl and tink are the only two I'll add to ruling out beyond myself. But even for them... I dunno. The fact there's no obvious action from the indie makes me say it isn't an LMS, but I have no idea what to expect for that win con, and I don't know if it's at odds with the civs. I'd rather hunt down the last baddie and see if that ends it though, for sure. If it doesn't... I'd come back to them. But for now.

Too many possibilities for who should go next.

I'd say this NK will at least be helpful in that regard, but... I think they'll flub it again tbh. I have a good feeling we'll make it through or just lose an inactive.

Bye DF.

Bye DF

He knew he was going to survive, it wasn't a pardon.

It's based on stuff. And some things. If I was gunning for you yet, you'd know why. Till then, I'll hold onto it.

I've said my piece on what I have to say about Eloh and tink and la and why it all comes together for why DF needs to go.

His survival hasn't changed my mind, I would like to try again. A fully evolved baddie surviving a lynch wouldn't surprise me at all.

G-Man wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:17 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:10 pm I am a little disappointed by lack of discussion around boo. He tied for the lynch on Day 2. What happened?

I think people wised up and put away their Jump To Conclusions mats. Timmer got votes because of meta and Boo got votes because enough people bought into the idea that he was maliciously twisting Nutella's words. Neither one is a great reason to lynch someone on Day 2, but hey- it happened.

That and spirit voted for in that, iirc. And was one of the last ones to. Not an especially smart bussing if I was his teammate that early on, because it offers 0 cred.

G-Man wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:57 pm In looking at the votes, Wilgy has a pretty crappy record this game. He missed Day 1's deadline because he was shopping. He was part of the Timmer meta lynch train Day 2. Day 3, he wanted to vote out the relatively inactive Tink. Day 4 he was on board for minimal-participating Eloh (possibly plus meta, though I'd have to go back). Day 5 he voted for absentee Dyslexicon, whom he voted for again today. His votes have been easy/lazy all the way through.

Since vote analysis is my bread and butter, I'm sticking with Wilgy.

Doesnt your vote record suck to? There's a reasonably good case that could be made for lynching you if we're going with voting records. Ofc, that's true of almost everyone. But I think out of anyone in the game, you could be hit hardest by using that logic.

But... I don't actually think you're bad. So, vote for DF today and I'll vote wilgy with you tomorrow. Probably. He's up there.

Okay, so people are still being bullheaded, so I'll just dump it. DF took his best shot and failed now anyways (suck it), so I'll make it as clear as I can:

At the time Eloh was lynched, there were two possibilities. She had a type of role (almost definitely civ, occasionally indie) that she loves, and often has in Epi games, or Tink has it and had targeted Eloh early on. I believe anyone who has played with Eloh in such a game where she had a role like that would know what was going on. I am certain DF fits the bill there. And he voted for her. He's bad. He voted for her and risked that 1) because it was a reasonable risk, lots of people wouldn't know this I imagine, 2) people who do know it don't like to bring up this style of meta-ness, 3) people who do know it are people who he wanted to NK anyways, so he got rid of them.

La was also part of that tink/Eloh group of people tink targeted. My best guess is, given the numbers, she had 1 other use and that person is already dead. Probably NKed early on. I think the reason tink has gone mia is a lack of interest given people she trusted are all dead. And maybe another possibility, but that's not important.

Anyways, la wanted to lynch DF because she knew it. I've picked it up.

As for teammates. Wilgy and quin are my top two choices. But I still want to lynch DF first, because I'm confident about him.

Because lynching him is easy and obvious, and the fact that people aren't is ridiculous. There's nothing to add.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:51 am

boo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:42 am I still want to lynch DF. He knows why.

Boo what's the chance that Sprityo was just distancing from you while he was alive?

0.00%. Repeating, of course.

I still want to lynch DF. He knows why.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:51 am

boo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:50 am Hey everyone. Try actually reading what la said before she died and go, "derp, lets obviously lynch DF now."

She did the work for you. And we still can't get it done? For real?

Please explain why in further detail than "because nutella said so".

No.

Hey everyone. Try actually reading what la said before she died and go, "derp, lets obviously lynch DF now."

She did the work for you. And we still can't get it done? For real?

No, I want to get straight to the part where we lynch you.

My brain still hurts and you nubs all lynched Eloh and I know looking at some of those voters on her some of you knew better.

La, don't die tonight, yea?

Voted Fred, seems straightforward, and I feel like death so that's about the extent of thinking I am up to today.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:53 pm

boo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:52 pm That being said... In her vote post, la said something that makes me wonder if Eloh is doing a certain civ Eloh thing... I don't really want to wander into that conjecture because I know people wouldn't appreciate it, but there are patterns all the same... I guess tink is clear enough for me if la doesn't flip her mind on that.

You sound like a homie. We can roll together.

I'd respond to this in an enthusiastic way, but Simon is hosting this game, so I want to keep it PG.

@Simon: whenever your dad does cool stuff from now on though (does he? I feel like he just probably has a tendency to go for some serious dad jokes which you find massively embarassing), I want you to remember what Mac said here, and repeat it verbatim.

Fredwood wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:52 pm

boo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:46 pm Hmm, I'd go the other way with that. I think it mostly clears all of the spirit voters except for tink. I mean, it's by no means a sure thing any of them are good, but I certainly don't see us lynching any of them in the near future now.

Tink, on the other hand, I don't think is cleared at all. Spirit got piled on quickly, and a baddie tink would see that as an opportunity for some excellent cred to switch their vote there. Now that they're active(ish) it's worth bussing a teammate that got that kind of pile on since it can buy you more time, while making the future of said teammate extremely doubtful.

Yeah but a baddie tink wouldn't have voted for DDl in the first place, I didn't get a devious vibe for any reason for her to not vote G-man.

Baddie Tink, or any Baddie would try to exploit my read on Gman I think. Especially since DDL had expressed a desire to vote G-man too.

I'm guess full clearing her is strong, but I'd rather suss out those on her wagon first, and then we can POE her later if it comes down to it.

Agreed, I just don't like full clears without absolute certainity, as they lead to questionable theories that can really bite people in the ass.

That being said... In her vote post, la said something that makes me wonder if Eloh is doing a certain civ Eloh thing... I don't really want to wander into that conjecture because I know people wouldn't appreciate it, but there are patterns all the same... I guess tink is clear enough for me if la doesn't flip her mind on that.

Hmm, I'd go the other way with that. I think it mostly clears all of the spirit voters except for tink. I mean, it's by no means a sure thing any of them are good, but I certainly don't see us lynching any of them in the near future now.

Tink, on the other hand, I don't think is cleared at all. Spirit got piled on quickly, and a baddie tink would see that as an opportunity for some excellent cred to switch their vote there. Now that they're active(ish) it's worth bussing a teammate that got that kind of pile on since it can buy you more time, while making the future of said teammate extremely doubtful.

I totally voted for Eloh but it appears it never registered. Definitely. That is what happened. Nothing to see here. Move along. These are not the droids you are looking for.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:14 pm Why tink? Because she's quiet? I really think if you're civ, you ought to keep tink around. I doubt she is bad. She is on vacation too and very busy with water slides all day long like me.

I'm voting alongside ddl.

I think this is a good reason to lunch Eloh instead of tink. She's latching on to people like crazy, with no reason for it, but still throwing incredibly vague suspicion at people who don't side with her.

I still don't trust ddl (or LC, for that matter), but Eloh has risen to number one now.

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:39 pm I've got a question for Boo...

boo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:28 pm

DFaraday wrote: ↑Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:58 pm What don't people like about G-Man? He's not a super high poster, but I'm getting a genuine attempt at helpfulness from him.

Boo, you said before you wanted to lynch LC. Is this still the case?

I want to see the NK before I answer that. I think LC and I will both survive it, but if that isn't the case, my thoughts for where we should take things d3 aren't helpful.

What's the answer now?

I already posted it :P

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:49 am It's not just LC. Every image in this forum that used photobucket has self destructed. Including most of the winner banners.

that is LC. He makes a lot of the banners and other images people have in their sigs. Anything not broken is mostly from daisy probably.

Yea, that makes sense. Rip speed.

DF, to answer your question. I'm still suspicious of LC, but someone in the LA/LC/speed group being killed reeks of more of a frame job on LC to try and set me on going at him again. Whether it succeeds would be irrelevant, since in this scenario, neither of us is bad.

Now, going on that, who is the framer.

Well, I figured la or speed would be the NK target, and that was delivered on. I think DDL did it. If he's a civ, which I strongly doubt, he's not what I expect in a meta sense. But he's exactly what I expect from him for a baddie in a meta sense.

Why?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:10 pm I like Boo

Not sure if he is good or bad, but I like him. He plays the way I do.

I have a sense this isn't wrong.

G-man had the thought that jack was killed by someone who knows him well. Initially I disagreed and was leaning the other way (he'd have been on my shortlist to kill that night if I were bad), but my feeling is he is good at reading ddl (or rather, civ ddl, he said he has never played with a baddie ddl). Killing someone good at reading you on N1 in a game set up where you know there will be no protector or roleblocked to hassle you? That's just too good to pass up and not kill the person you think is your biggest threat.

Well, one of the people I *most* lean bad on. Top two or three, results pending on how the kill shakes out.

Cool. The rest of them look right to me. I like it, good summation. I have a feeling based on where you did include some thoughts you're going to wind up looking at the same person I'm leaning bad on tomorrow, but we'll see where you wind up on that once you're fully read up I suppose.