The Syndicate

Just saying, Roxy is extremely lucky she decided to kill me at the end there, I had her pegged for a NK had i survived. This game could have gone any direction

It doesnt even really matter at this point anyways, because MP seems so sure that I'm bad and FH and Roxy are pretty certain. All I can say is that you're making a huge mistake and it aggravates me that everybody else believes them just because it came from their mouths. This is so frustrating.

blindfaeth wrote:Omg u r so bad se, that is a flat out lie. Boogs and I have not agreed all game and if you disagree you can look at fhs vote analysi.ds of us yesterday. The extent of our connection is that I believe him to be good and our agreement mp is bad. Besides its very likely theres only one baddie on the team left so its unlikely were working together, youre grasping at straws. Fhs analysis of u from yesterday paints a perfect picture and you are definitely getting my vote tomorrow, I can wait on mp.

Ha, yep. Big ol lie from me. Of course. And just because FH makes an analysis of you two doesnt mean I automatically have to believe it. Thats the problem with this game, everybody is way too trusting of each other and it just leads to bad things happening. People like FH and MP say things and you guys follow like sheep because you just trust them instantly.

Flyin' High wrote:
>SpaghettiEverywhere wrote:And your suspicions of me were just that I was being blendy, which I already addressed. And what more do you want me to say? I think Boogs and BF are the last two bad people in the game. Boogs has had an awful voting record the entire game and all of this stuff about MP being bad is ridiculous to me. I agree that he's been a bit wishy washy and peculiar at times, but I cant argue the fact that he was killed instead of a baddie and turned up civ. While they would be on separate teams, I think BF is bad as well. He was agreeing with Boogs for most of the game and I can't help but think that he is bad too. You accused BF of the same things that you accused me of. Why the change of mind in thinking he is good? And if not them, then I am 100% certain that somebody you trust is pulling the wool over your eyes. How are you so certain that you trust these people? I can't trust anybody in this game. Not even MP even though I highly doubt he is bad. I'll take what people say into account, but never trust. Especially the people who dominate the thread (Right now its MP, FH, and Roxy I suppose), because it just leads to bandwagons happening and if a baddie becomes one of those people who start dominating the thread and has a good track record, the game is over and baddies win unless some freak accident happens. Take MOTU for example, where I think alex was pretty well accepted by everyone until it became brutally obvious that he was bad when he defended snow dog.
My entire suspicion of you was certainly not solely that you've been blendy. I actually laid out a pretty detailed case on why I think you might be bad. Yes, I could be wrong, but to act like all I did was accuse you of being blendy just isn't true.

The reason I have changed my tune on blindfaeth is because he helped us lynch DP yesterday and DP was mafia. Maybe BF is Herobrine, it's not outside the realm of possibility. But BF's behavior all game has read more civvie than Boogs' has.

Boogs is currently making me nervous with his pleas, but then so did DP and DP did turn out to be bad.

I think the chances of the civvies being able to pull off a win is slim, but we've gotta at least try!

I was moreso talking to Roxy when I said all I was being accused of was being blendy.

Okay, I have not been flippy floppy at all this game. Please read my posts before you accuse me of something.

And your suspicions of me were just that I was being blendy, which I already addressed. And what more do you want me to say? I think Boogs and BF are the last two bad people in the game. Boogs has had an awful voting record the entire game and all of this stuff about MP being bad is ridiculous to me. I agree that he's been a bit wishy washy and peculiar at times, but I cant argue the fact that he was killed instead of a baddie and turned up civ. While they would be on separate teams, I think BF is bad as well. He was agreeing with Boogs for most of the game and I can't help but think that he is bad too. You accused BF of the same things that you accused me of. Why the change of mind in thinking he is good? And if not them, then I am 100% certain that somebody you trust is pulling the wool over your eyes. How are you so certain that you trust these people? I can't trust anybody in this game. Not even MP even though I highly doubt he is bad. I'll take what people say into account, but never trust. Especially the people who dominate the thread (Right now its MP, FH, and Roxy I suppose), because it just leads to bandwagons happening and if a baddie becomes one of those people who start dominating the thread and has a good track record, the game is over and baddies win unless some freak accident happens. Take MOTU for example, where I think alex was pretty well accepted by everyone until it became brutally obvious that he was bad when he defended snow dog.

Also, to anyone who says I'm blendy, Ill say what i said to rox before. Its really hard to say anything that hasnt already been said by someone like MP who always dominates the game. And I'm not going to go say something else if it's not what I believe.

And I'm really tired of being swept under the rug in these games. It's always, "It cant be these people, cuz theyre always civvie! Lets just lynch spaghetti instead". I feel like I'm invisible until theres no other options. Anyone who says I was being blendy, maybe thats because you all ignored me when I tried to say something. I'm sorry I try and contribute to the game because I always get flak for saying or doing anything.

I'm definitely not okay with an SE lynch. You've definitely got it all wrong. Someone here is definitely pulling the wool over all of your eyes. I can assure you that I am not bad OR herobrine.

Hey everyone. I'm sorry i wasnt here for the lynch, I had to deal with a lot of stuff today and I wasnt up for coming on here :/ Great job lynching a baddie though, FWIW i would have voted Boogs. He is still not sitting well with me. This:

Boogs wrote:
Flyin' High wrote:
Roxy wrote:If you felt more strongly about boogs I would have followed you FH. <3
I really hope we are right today!

Well all this does not make me feel better tbs. Porcu I swear I will just flip out if I am wrong.

Oh no more talk of recruits!! My hed can't handle it tonight.
I don't think you were talking me out of Boogs.

Boogs, can you please explain how MP can both be Herobrine and have been dead Night 1? When you can explain that, I might start believing you. Otherwise I don't understand how it's possible. A recruit at this point makes more sense to me than Herobrine killing from beyond the grave.
FH I know my theory sounds crazy but I just feel like we were onto something.... It does not seem logical he is Herobrine. I will admit i may not be accurate there, but a recruit? yes, largely largely possible. We all still have no idea what the secret part of Hero's role is, which COULD be just that. Also, his constant flip flopping and wishy washy feelings on everyone throw me a HUGE . He most caught me he wanted to tie the poll and I felt that if he were Civ, why would he ever even suggest a thing?
FH you do make me think, again Hero was dead so it must be a recruit so I am wrong on him being the actual Hero. But someone else must be. MP targeting Llama and BWT was odd like he was trying to throw us off getting them. Is he pretending to cover up suspicions? I want to kill Hero as bad as the rest of the good guys, but we have to lynch right. Hopefully we got one right tonight.

Linksy: I was right bout one of the 2! Heck yes! It is getting down to the wire. Great job guys!

I am 99% certain that there is no way that MP is a baddie or a recruited baddie. Same with BF, trying to pull the same sort of theory. My eye is on both of you for being the last two.

blindfaeth wrote:
>SpaghettiEverywhere wrote:RIPIYWG All three of you. I think SVS and Ambray were civ but I dont know about reywaS. Boogs, all this accusing MP of being herobrine or baddie seems really ridiculous to me. I feel like youre a baddie backed into a wall and you're throwing theories around like crazy in hopes someone will follow your lead. I really dont think MP has been saying follow his lead all the time, people just do that because he seems to know what he is doing and giving his own valuable input.

On a side note, I'm going through a lot of stuff IRL right now and its really messing me up bad and sometimes I just dont have the heart to come back on here and play mafia. I know its getting towards the end of the game, so do what you must.
Actually no ones really been following him, a prime example is I didn't get lynched yesterday.

Like I said, he's trying to come up with some crazy idea to try and get a comfirmed civvie lynched

RIPIYWG All three of you. I think SVS and Ambray were civ but I dont know about reywaS. Boogs, all this accusing MP of being herobrine or baddie seems really ridiculous to me. I feel like youre a baddie backed into a wall and you're throwing theories around like crazy in hopes someone will follow your lead. I really dont think MP has been saying follow his lead all the time, people just do that because he seems to know what he is doing and giving his own valuable input.

On a side note, I'm going through a lot of stuff IRL right now and its really messing me up bad and sometimes I just dont have the heart to come back on here and play mafia. I know its getting towards the end of the game, so do what you must.

The only reason you said is in the last post and you just said you are willing to give them a chance.

Roxy wrote:Also you are leaving yourself with all sorts of outs.
Your vote will go to one of three people that in and of itself is easy for anyone to say - but a blendy person does it for the entire game.

Linky well tbh those votes actually make my nose twitch - everyone knew Edpig was going down so yah I am sure his teamies voted him and with russti well he was civ.

Idk spaghetti we are getting down to the final baddies and I am not voting llama or teeth and probs not Ambray just yet so - here is where I am at.

Where else would you have us look for lynch if not those that I just listed?

BF possibly. Why are you not voting llama or teeth?

Roxy wrote:Yes spaghetti but this has been your m.o. for the whole game. I mean I get you are normally a low poster but you have blended in with suspicions for the whole game, I don't have vote records but I bet you went with the crowd for your votes.

Wrong, The only time I was part of the big crowds of votes were when epi was lynched and russ was lynched.

Roxy wrote:Just my little bit of input here

I doubt I will be lynching llama or Teeth anytime soon. I am willing to give them a chance plus I want to see what Teeth has to say about llama as well.

I thought spaghetti's last post was full of blendy and really is just rewording of other peoples suspicions without answering the actual suspicions against him. In other words he seemed to say something when he really didn't. Says he would lynch llama or bf or Teeth and if flips civ then he will rethink Ambray. Idk it just feels like heres some of the same you have been saying and I am going to follow the crowd with my vote.

What am I supposed to do if someone else has already said the same thing before I have, yet I still believe it? Its not like i'm going to throw out some other idea just to be "origional" with my posts

EBWOP, it was supposed to say that nobody ever answered HIM not me. And I hope that can clear some things up for you alex

MovingPictures07 wrote:
>SpaghettiEverywhere wrote:Just because somebody pings me doesnt mean I think theyre bad. I like to give people the BOTD, i will wait till im COMPLETELY certain before i will say somebody is bad.
What say you? Snow Dog apparently was eyeing you considerably and he was the role blocker. Who do you think is baddie?

I dont know if I would say he was eying me, he just asked everyone's opinions of me and nobody ever answered me. I think he may have been suspicious of me because I haven't been posting much, even though that's kind of my playstyle. As for people who I think are bad, I think llama and BF might be bad. Llama has been accused of a lot, keeps reassuring us he is civvie, and never really seems to defend himself when called out, as well as never has much of a reason as to why he suspects somebody. As for BF, I think he has been pretty wishy washy and that vote for ambray seems like an attempt to bandwagon somebody into taking out a civvie. I think ambray is a civvie, but depending on if BWT gets lynched or not and how he turns up if he does get lynched could affect how i feel about ambray.

Just because somebody pings me doesnt mean I think theyre bad. I like to give people the BOTD, i will wait till im COMPLETELY certain before i will say somebody is bad.

Ambray wrote: Spaghetti, your logic of, I think she's bad because of how she is going after BWT has me confused. We don't know his role, so how does it make ME bad?

Hooold up, did i ever say you were bad? Nuh uh, I didn't. I said it pinged me a bit by how certain you were.

Having caught up with everything that has bees said, I think i'm more comfortable with a llama lynch. He's really pinging me and not really defending himself all too terribly well. As I will not be here later, I will be voting him now.

Votes llama

MovingPictures07 wrote: And whoever mentioned Ambray as being possibly suspicious or baddie, who was that? And why? I can't recall, but I can't read her currently.

Im just getting pinged a bit as to why she is going after BWT and seems so sure of him being bad.

RIPIYWG LT. Herobrine is really getting shut down on kills here. Props to whoever is responsible for doing that though!

Roxy wrote:Why are you suspicious of Ambray for going after Teeth? Also who else are you looking at for the next lynch?
Its easy for you to come and accuse players for bringing up suspicions when you haven't added to this game. Its a good way to lay low.

Linky llama - if you read back further it was me

Ive been feeling civvie from BWT so far, but I could be wrong. It just seems like ambray is the only one feeling almost certain BWT is bad. And as for the next lynch, I think maybe SVS. Her theory on alex being bad seems a bit far fetched to me

Dangit russ. RIP dude. Can anyone remember who started going after russ first, I mean, i know he looked kind of sketch anyways but does anyone know? Also Ambray going after BWT is still pinging me a bit

There's a chance that I wont be able to be on again before the vote ends, so I'm just going to go ahead and vote russ and hope for the best

*votes russ*

RIPIYWG Elohcin and He-Man, I really would have liked to know whether Elohcin was actually bad or not, but I trust Stevie's judgement on this one. I'd have to agree in thinking that He-Man was probably good. Anybody else think Ambray going after BWT is kind of strange? I was leaning civvie for both of them, although I was a bit suspicious of BWT, I dont know if he's done anything that warrants his lynch just yet. I'd be much more comfortable with a russ lynch. Linki with everyone who brought up points about russ

And when I vote mainly depends on when I'm able to get online. I was online earlier, but there was still lots of discussion going on whether we wanted to lynch him or not. By the time I got back, it was pretty much decided

Snow Dog wrote:
>SpaghettiEverywhere wrote:MP and Snow Dog, Why do you think I need to be looked at? Like, do you have any reasons?
It was mainly on you late vote for epi. Now that on it's own is nothing but when I saw your name I didn't recall you adding much conversation. It seemed maybe you were "keeping low".
Reading your posts now there is nothing much to it...but i get a sense that you were not that happy about MP's rez. It could be my imagination though. Idk..it seems you arwe just trying to say the right things.

I was very happy with MP's rez, he adds a ton to the game and is extremely helpful. The reason I didn't say like"WB MP!" or anything was because by the time I got online after his rez the discussion was already so far away from that so I added to the discussion instead. Does that make sense?

MP and Snow Dog, Why do you think I need to be looked at? Like, do you have any reasons?

Great result!!!! Bye epi and BIH zombie!!! I think going after Elohcin would be a good idea, though I'm still leery of snow dog. His "no u" kind of playing here makes me lean a bit towards him being baddie, but i dont know for sure yet.

I think ill vote epig too. The cases of him being good vs evil seems pretty stacked up on the evil side. However, if he flips civ, i'm going to be majorly confused.

MovingPictures07 wrote: Linki with SE: It makes absolutely NO sense the Diamond Sword saved him. Remember, the Diamond Sword has both a stop and a switch, and the baddies only have a switch. Since Diamond Sword has no BTSC, I incredibly doubt that role would use the switch when they cannot be sure anyone is civ or bad. I realize we can be paranoid, but I really think we don't have a better option than Epig. But I think you're right in that their hand was forced to use the lynch switch, even though they might not have wanted to.

The reason I didnt completely rule out the diamond sword is because it has a *secret* as part of its role. I think theres a small chance it could have been some sort of power where the diamond sword would know epi was a civvie and then to save him? I dunno, its a stretch but i'm not ruling it out.

OR the diamond sword could have saved him for some reason unbeknownst to us.

Looks like a lot of people are heading towards Epi being lynched. I think I would be okay with it, I'm not so keep on the idea of baddies using their power so early just to frame a civ. It seems like an awful waste of something that could be extremely useful later in the game to save a teammate or themselves. So I'm more set on the fact that he is a baddie who saved his own life with it. Or it was a freak circumstance where both epi and llama are protected from being lynched and it just went down the line to MP

blindfaeth wrote:Although to add to my previous thought, given that there is only one mafia team, and given that they also want the rogue dead because its one of their goals in order to win the game, I personally think they would probably be more concerned with getting rid of the really "good" players. Don't get me wrong, every person is valuable, whether you post a lot or a little. I'm just saying that MP has been playing a long time, posts often and has a lot of content. How accurately he perceives things as a civvie, I don't know. But he does put a lot of time and effort into the game. In general, you don't like having that type of person as an enemy, so I don't necessarily see eliminating him when they had the chance as being very outrageous. I hope that makes some sense.

I was actually thinking the very same thing. MP is always a very vocal player with valid points and can read people pretty well. The fact that he was civ could have made him a huge target for the baddies right away, just for the fact that he knows what he is doing when it comes to mafia

I have a feeling that baddies didnt have anything to do with MP getting lynched. I'm more inclined to think that Epi possibly had a lynch protection from somewhere (possibly from a role or from some item acquired) although i think it has to be part of the role because it seems weird that he would have received an item so early in the game. Unless it was a result of the day 0 vote. it seems like a waste for a baddie team to use a lynch switch so early, unless he was the only baddie member able to use the lynch switch, so thats an option too.

RIP MP, wow wtf happened? sorry to see you go, especially since youre civ

(I'm on my phone quick because I realized I never voted in the poll) I only voted he man as sort of a throw away vote because I don't know who else to vote for. All of these arguments seem like civvie-civvie to me and I cant decide who is who yet.

this is the last chance i will get before the poll ends, i'm going out with friends. so i guess i have to vote now. i honestly have no idea who to vote for and i dont know if i'm okay with an SD lynch JUST YET. ill give him a chance to prove himself civvie to me. so i'm going to vote he-man, just cuz he's he-man and always pings me

He-Man wrote:
>SpaghettiEverywhere wrote:
He-Man wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
He-Man wrote:
First you go after low posters

Then pulled on it you pull a switcheroo.

Not cool.

What?
Maybe someone else can explain since I'm not making sense to you.
I dont think youre making too much sense to anyone, tbh
I'm sorry I could not eloquently explain my suspicion to your eyes, I will try harder to appease you in future

Haha thanks, i think youre misunderstanding epi though.
From what I can tell, epi is just saying that llama said the exact same thing even before epi did, yet epi is the only one youre going after. and i think youre thinking that epi is trying to pull your attention over to llama instead of him. youre both misunderstanding i think.

He-Man wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
He-Man wrote:
First you go after low posters

Then pulled on it you pull a switcheroo.

Not cool.

What?
Maybe someone else can explain since I'm not making sense to you.

I dont think youre making too much sense to anyone, tbh

Ambray wrote: linki again - Epig and HM. Maybe take any problems you have with other games out of this one??

I think this is always for the best, so as to not make any mistakes in this game solely based on past games. Plus this game wont be unique if we always just relate it back to a past one.

He-Man wrote:
>SpaghettiEverywhere wrote:He-Man, I dont think anybody has really been specifically targeting anybody for the lynch yet, and i cant see anybody as of right now that looks like theyre tied to epi in any way. i dont think its fair to go throwing out conclusions of any sort yet. we need to talk about all of this first before we jump to "youre suspicious and bad, so die" kind of thing. in fact, I think epi's post actually makes a lot of sense, but so does the point made of quality over quantity.
Fair enough spaghetti, it's just my observation, you are free to dismiss them.

And whilst no one has been pushed to the lynch with just 8 or so hours to go, it's only a matter of time

And again, linki

But also spaghetti, a few have said that snow dog is suspicious and llama and whilst I don't agree with those I would say the people that have said such things will most likely vote them as a 'weak suspicion' it's how day one always goes down, so spaghetti I think it's fair to say that epig could be trying to get some distance between snow dog etc

In fact I will be shocked if those two don't receive any votes.

Linki again

Yes people have said things that can qualify as a weak suspicion, even for me, but I will not be making any conclusions until I absolutely have to on the first day vote.

Snow Dog wrote:
>SpaghettiEverywhere wrote:He-Man, I dont think anybody has really been specifically targeting anybody for the lynch yet, and i cant see anybody as of right now that looks like theyre tied to epi in any way. i dont think its fair to go throwing out conclusions of any sort yet. we need to talk about all of this first before we jump to "youre suspicious and bad, so die" kind of thing. in fact, I think epi's post actually makes a lot of sense, but so does the point made of quality over quantity.
I don't understand this quality over quantity thing. If one has something to say regarding the game or another poster, post it. Anything off topic...in green.

Its more to do with what is said in the post. A post can be relevant whether its meaningful or not. such as:

A quality post would be one that has a lot of analyzing and meaningful and insightful opinions, versus somebody that spends a lot of their posts quoting people and saying something barely to the extent of "I agree with this person"

He-Man, I dont think anybody has really been specifically targeting anybody for the lynch yet, and i cant see anybody as of right now that looks like theyre tied to epi in any way. i dont think its fair to go throwing out conclusions of any sort yet. we need to talk about all of this first before we jump to "youre suspicious and bad, so die" kind of thing. in fact, I think epi's post actually makes a lot of sense, but so does the point made of quality over quantity.

I voted house based on my experience with playing the game of Minecraft. If you ask anybody who plays it what you should do first when you start up a new game, the answer will always be to find some sort of shelter.

Flyin' High wrote:Yay a new game! Double yay a game about Minecraft!

blindfaeth wrote:Anyone have input on the poll who is familiar with the game? Are the stevie twins good?
I have played Minecraft extensively. I was playing the game back when it was in it's alpha phase. I love Minecraft!

As for the Stevie twins--that is just two people playing in the same world. And unless you use a Minecraft skin for your player character, then you play as the default "Steve". So yes, they are good.

And yes, in the game, typically the very first thing you want to do is build a house because when the sun sets, the zombies, spiders, skeletons, and creepers come out and roam the land. If they see you they attack. But they cannot open doors so if you're inside a house (or as BF said, build yourself into a mountainside) you'll be safe (though really, having torches helps a ton because monsters don't spawn in blocks that are lit (though they can wander into them). However, in taking a closer look at the house in the picture provided, I see that the floor is made of grass and I can't see any torches. That is somewhat concerning because if there are no torches, then the mobs can spawn directly inside of the house at night because it'll be just as dark as outside and they can spawn on grass!

Anyway, my gut reaction is to say that home is a safe option but I have some reservations about the grass floor and no apparent lighting in the provided picture.

I'm not sure about the ship, but it sounds fun! And frankly, if it's far enough out into the water you should be relatively safe as I am pretty sure the mobs can't swim. They can enter shallow water, but I don't recall them being able to move beyond where they can stand on solid ground. In fact, in some of my Minecraft worlds, if I didn't get my act together in time to build a house or found myself too far away from my house at night, I have simply swum out into the deeper water and stayed there until the sun came up in the morning to stay safe (there are no sharks or any sort of bad mob in the water, just squids).

As for the bank, I'm not sure I see much use of that personally. I mean, currency might become important (like emeralds for trading with villagers), but in the beginning I just don't think it sounds like a crucial option.

So yeah, I'm currently torn between ship and home. I'm not sure if I'm over-analyzing the pictures provided and should just stick with my gut that home is the safe option, or if I'm right to think that the home provided isn't as safe as we're meant to think. Eek!

Mobs cannot spawn in water, but they can follow you into any depth of water and not be harmed. Also, mobs (with exception of the creeper) will be set on fire during the day time in direct sunlight, but they can avoid being killed by the sun by standing in water, therefore surviving through the day.

Well i know from actual minecraft, the first thing you want to do is build a house. going with that choice

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