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Epignosis wrote:

Congratulations to Russtifinko

Epignosis wrote:

Day 16: A Cock and a Hen

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A challenger rose up against someone called D’Faraday, and this vexed D’Faraday much.

D’Faraday cried out, “You weaver of mats! You plaiter of straw shoes! I will destroy you because I despise you!”

Booms Lang the challenger arose and said, “I must settle now who will be cock and who will be hen.”

The battle commenced.

Boomslang defeated DFaraday after one bout.

DFaraday was Dong Zhuo.

The Three Kingdoms Period is Over.

Wei are victorious.
Congratulations to reywaS, Simon, Matahari, Boomslang, Dunny, nutella, Soneji, and Dom.

Yuan Shao is victorious.
Congratulations to Elohcin, nijuukyugou, Scotty, TheCapsFan

Lu Bu is victorious.
Congratulations to Bass_the_Clever, JaggedJimmyJay

The End

Quin wrote:

nutella wrote:Also though, we've been kind of assuming the YTs only have 2 members left, but considering their team is chock full of secrets they might have recruited by now and might be doing way better than we think.

ehhhhhhhh????????

nijuukyugou wrote:The other will be for Russ, because according to the few people posting, the dude wants to be voted. But hey, I could duel, too! But I'll go with Russ, since I'm not a fan of self-voting.

Elohcin wrote:goodness, this page is being nutso. Okay, according to Niju, Russ wanted to be voted for. And I know MP did too. SO I voted for those two.

Jan wrote:I would like to see one out of Metalmarsh89 and Turnip Head gone. I think I'm voting both.

Scotty wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:Bubbles and MM's votes smell the fishiest to me. I want to go back and investigate those.

Scotty my man, I'm sorry I ever doubted you. You are the hero we need. Please be my sensei.

So I was gonna say this wasn't true and Scotty could still be a Yellow Turban, but then I realized he would've likely lost his duel had he been. So I'm prepared to give Scotty some civ cred barring evidence to the contrary.

Who's to say I'm not on Wilgy's team? I mean, I'm not, but why exclude that as a possibility?

I appreciate the civ label because I am, but your defense of me is slightly hollow.

I could also be anything, and just rolled better than Wilgy, so this argument is not the best way to guard my alignment.

Turnip Head wrote:Bubbles and MM's votes smell the fishiest to me. I want to go back and investigate those.

Scotty my man, I'm sorry I ever doubted you. You are the hero we need. Please be my sensei.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Hey Simon, what do you like about Russtifinko?

MovingPictures07 wrote:FYI I still need to read this thang. I've been just recently caught up helping Daisy with the Psych endgame, we still have to pack and move some more stuff thereafter, and I have lots of studying to still do. Very likely will be pulling another all-nighter tonight, so at some point if I want a break I might try popping in here. Otherwise you'll hear from me tomorrow evening probably.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:THE ANCIENT RITUAL OF CHALLENGE DUEL HAS BEEN INVOKED. RUSSTIFINKO NOW HAS 24 HOURS TO ACCEPT OR WE WILL RAID HIS ANCESTRAL VILLAGE.

Says the fellow whom I always vote on Day 1.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:You didn't like it, you shouldn't have posted a platypus picture. You say those pursuing power shouldn't get it, but went ahead and pursued away yesterday. Dunno what to tell ya, I had an idea. It was pointed out to me that it could in theory be used to work out even better for the baddies, and after thinking about it, I agree.

This does not make sense. By posting a platypus picture I secured your vote. I trust me. The problem is that you have no reason to trust me and you didn't seem to care about that.

Russtifinko wrote:You even think this is true when the strategy that you propose each side would promote is demonstrably, mathematically better for their opponents? Please. This is ridiculous. I'm an economist, and incentives just do not work that way.

It is not demonstrably, mathematically better for their opponents. It is theoretically better for their opponents in certain situations. I am sure we disagree on many economics concepts, and this isn't about that anyway. You can be an economics scholar; I am a Mafia scholar.

Scotty wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:So, do we have any volunteers to duel today?

You?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:Agreed, JJJ.

Hey, I REALLY like the idea of the "whoever does ____ first, gets my votes" posts. They prevent people from finding excuses to give votes to baddie teammates. So I'm gonna do one too, and would suggest others do the same (even though it's an itsy bit late for a few).

The first two people to post pictures or emojis of platypi earn my votes.

DDL brought this post up and I think his concerns were valid. Russ, it appears here that you are attributing a meaningful strategy to what I would perceive to be typically arbitrary Day 0 behavior. This method removes the responsibility from your votes and increases the likelihood that they will be given to people who are in deliberate pursuit of power for whatever motive. Indeed, the two respondents to your platypi request were INH and I -- both eventual prefects.

I'd like for you to talk about this, please.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Assertion: townies are more likely to think outside the box when it comes to game mechanics, and it sometimes gets them into trouble. I think Boomslang is the example here -- when presented with this unique dueling mechanic, he thought outside the box the same way I did and arrived upon an idea that has a theoretical application even if it might not be the most practical. I might also include Golden in this, because his idea was to pit UTR players against each other instead of merely suspect against suspect. I don't quite agree with that method, but I don't fault him for proposing it.

Baddies however love these moments, because it gives them an easy opportunity to jump into a discussion and bring the more "logical" perspective -- in this case: "shouldn't we just have suspects duel each other?" This is to say that I am more suspicious of the players who have responded to Boomslang with incredulity (Turnip Head and Dunny) than I am of Boomslang himself. Sorsha can also apply, though she was less critical and more personal in her delivery.

The unique idea tends to come from the townie.

The critical response and recommendation that simpler methods be employed are more likely to come from the baddie.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I'm actively trying not to blow this thread up in Day 0. I don't want this massive player list to be filled with lurkers, and nothing inspires people to not bother with a game thread than one that gets away from them before the game even actually starts. I know this is atypical of my usual shtick, but it's what I've decided to do in this game. I am not going out of my way to say things and promote discussion, at least not yet. I'll do that when there's a proper lynch poll.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:So who wants to talk about this duel mechanic? It seems we would want to nominate the two most suspicious players (in lieu of one) similar to lynching, but is that necessarily the case? What if a player is suspicious but has a role type that is stronger in duels and keeps winning them? What do you all think?

In the immediate presence I don't think we should worry much about this when making our selections, but it might become more important as the game progresses and we develop a better understanding of players' potential dueling strength.

The two "baddie" factions appear to be the Yellow Turbans and the Nanman. Their dueling prowess is as follows:

Yellow Turbans:
1 leader - d6
2 strategists - d4
(all secrets)

Nanman:
1 leader - d6
4 warriors - d8

Purely from a dueling perspective, the Nanman appear significantly more potent. We'll need to keep that in mind as we proceed. Indeed, it might even be worth considering combining a town read with a baddie read in our voting pattern to try to arrange a winnable duel. That might even amount to people volunteering themselves to enter a duel if there is a consensus suspect present. I hope enough people are able to withhold their votes long enough for those discussions to develop.

The Yellow Turbans don't have the strength in their dice, but all three of them have *secrets* which I am sure are meant to make up the difference somehow.

Boomslang wrote:Yes, but civilian reads are more likely to be right. So if we get that factor correct, then we only need to pick one baddie, the most high-quality baddie we have. We don't need to go scraping for evidence for a second suspect every time.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:So, two weeks ago, Mom aka Roxy, fell on a broken step at her apartment and fractured her face in two places, and fractured her skull. Nothing needed surgery but she got really banged up and hurt. If any of you know her on a personal level I'm sure it would cheer her up to hear from some old pals.

Spacedaisy wrote:Fair warning, I'm in the midst of hosting my own game, interviewing for a new job and applying for others, and packing up my apartment and moving for the next two week. So yeah, don't expect a ton here at first from me. I'll do my best but frankly I am quieter at the beginning and get more engaged as the numbers thin out. It's just kind of how I work, and given everything going on, it's not likely to be any different here.

As for prefect, well I'll just quote some Douglas Adams' Hitchiker's Guide...

"It is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it... anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job."

Therefore I am voting for timmer and nutella because they said they didn't want it.

Scotty wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:Agreed, JJJ.

Hey, I REALLY like the idea of the "whoever does ____ first, gets my votes" posts. They prevent people from finding excuses to give votes to baddie teammates. So I'm gonna do one too, and would suggest others do the same (even though it's an itsy bit late for a few).

The first two people to post pictures or emojis of platypi earn my votes.

Well not to be a Debbie downer, but all it takes is a quick chat in BTSC to say "I'm posting the next player to post in Sanskrit will get my vote"

Not that that is happening, but I'm just being devil's advocate here .



Also, vote for me. I'll be a better president than Herbert Hoover

Scotty wrote:Thank you for the vote of confidence, Nero and DF! Keep em coming!

I voted for DDL and moi.

Golden wrote:

sig wrote:Golden why bubbles?

Because bubbles is awesome.