The Syndicate

Shocked as I am to say it, I think Epi is right here. FZ. keeps saying "look at me in a baddie game", and I damn sure didn't plan on doing that. It's plausible to think she figured no one would. In every game I've seen her be civ, she goes HARD after people she thinks are bad. I haven't seen that here.

Voting FZ.

Bass, how's that readthrough going, out of curiosity?

Oh! And major kudos to Epi for reading 69 pages of content to build a case. That rivals the hustle on your DH case earlier.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Day 4: Super Turnip Bro.

THELLAMA73: Turnip Head, you change your mind too much!
TURNIP HEAD: Do I?
THELLAMA73: Also, you love puzzles more than catching Kira. That makes you bad.
TURNIP HEAD: Does it?
THELLAMA73: Yep. I feel good about this lynch.

Sockface prepared to write Turnip Head's name in the Lynch Note. Turnip Head started laughing.

EPIGNOSIS: Why are you laughing?
TURNIP HEAD: No reason.

Suddenly, Turnip Head grabbed a giant turnip from the ground SMB2-style and chucked it at Sockface.

Sockface screamed in terror as he was knocked over by the turnip. Turnip Head quickly snagged the Death Note.

TURNIP HEAD: Yep. Just call me Captain Turnip Head: Survivor of Lynches.
DHARMAHELPER: How about no?


No one has been lynched.

It is now Night 4.

You have 24 hours to send in your night actions.

Now I get why no one has been talking about this; no one noticed it but me, I guess.

zeek, thanks of the response.

MM, two things:

1) The host has confirmed that civs can win while dead in this game.
2) You're dodging the point of my argument about your Elo feeling. You said you didn't feel good about your vote more or less immediately after Elo made it blindingly obvious she was bad.

Why are you arguing obvious, proveable points? And why don't you feel good about voting obvious baddies? You are pinging me something fierce today, friend.

juliets wrote:Russ, you're right about that interpretation of MP's rule about infodumping. I read it wrong the first time.

Oh! Gotcha.

And uhhh MM....more about what?

Linki: Sorry, Elo. To be clear, I'm not accusing you of breaking the rules. However, after you took over 50% of the votes, you admitted to attempting to vote for L. I would assume to pick L out for Kira, which leads to the deduction that L is right and you're a Sympathizer. So you didn't role out yourself, but it's clear that you are bad.

Which raises the point of why MM would be questioning L after you posted that.

Also, I echo others' thoughts that you played it extremely well, even though L got you in the end.

Linki again: but MM, players can win while dead in this game....

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Feeling increasingly good about my vote.

I'm not. It just occurred to me that L might not be coming up with his own percentages, but they are generated by MP, and L comes up with his own conclusion. Sorry if someone else already said this.

.....but Elo has now outed herself, so.....

Linki: Thanks, juliets! Right about what?

And why is nobody talking about the fact that LYNCHING TH PUT ANOTHER DEATH NOTE IN CIRCULATION????

That seems like something people might want to notice. And, since only one type of being has Death Notes (I'll give you a hint - it rhymes with "Hello, Mommy"), that's more evidence that lynching TH again would be a gigantic waste of time.

zeek wrote:DH - Little things really. Like your last comment on L's post being poorly done. I could see that coming from an annoyed baddie. Just little things, not enough for me to vote for you in the future.

TH - Epi has equally worried me and made sense to me. Whatever role he has I'd be shocked if it's Kira. Same with MM tbh, I find myself agreeing with him more often than not however.

So you're already committed to never voting DH?? That's weird.

I agree re: Boomslang that he's getting way ahead of himself. Also, can someone please tell me why we would ever want to try lynching TH again? He's been incredibly blatant about not minding it. Best case scenario seems to me that we out an unkillable role that we don't need dead to win and waste a lynch. That's very little return on investment, if you ask me.

I think people just need to stop letting him get under their skin. No offense TH, you rock as a player, and I think it's commendable that so many people have wanted to keep you feeling involved in the game and were against ignoring you. I just don't think we should be taking your direction on where to look for Kira until we get some indication you care about finding them.

juliets wrote:Here's what he has to say:

"If you have knowledge that comes from your role power, and not the thread, or if you want to fake that knowledge, please remember to utilize actual reasons. Do NOT indicate that your role or some power has given you knowledge, ever."

Given that I would say you can fake knowledge.

Really? I got exactly the opposite from this, actually. It seems the same standard that applies to real info also applies to fake.

Not relevant to the game at hand, but an important discussion to have IMO.

On the other hand, I don't think L's post is necessarily info dumping. It's a role power designed to communicate with the thread, as opposed to a player posting. So as I understand it, it seems as if L has very little power to build a case at all, and is only able to communicate these brief percentages. Furthermore, it went through the host. I am a hardliner against info dumps, and I really can't see why people are upset about this.

FZ. wrote:
Thanks!
I think I agree on almost everything you said.

I actually had the same thought regarding Epi and Elo, so it's interesting you're thinking the same thing.

My problem with the Made case, and I know I sometimes expect too much of baddies, is that most people who play a certain way as a civ, won't completely flip and change their game when bad. The fact that Made said he literally has no idea where to go with his vote, make me feel he's genuine. I feel baddies try harder to "find" a case and go with it, while when civvies don't know where to go, they just say it. I know I've felt that way this game, so I can get why he feels that way.
Elo is also playing that card, but with her, it's that she doesn't know who is bad and who is good. Come on, that's what you're going for? Really? That doesn't sound genuine. Is it only me?

This is a good point. I don't really view this game as a departure form Made's play style. He's still saying goofy things, like trying to get the Kira sympathizers and detectives to all win. And I think saying he has no idea is pretty common in previous games I've played with him. But your point about not "finding" a case is noted and makes me feel a little better about him. \

The Elo thing is definitely not only you. I could see a vote there for tomorrow as well.

Ricochet wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

FZ. wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Am I supposed to address anything in your post, FZ? Not sure why you quoted my exchange with Russ, except for the penultimate paragraph.

Oops, sorry. Yeah, I just quoted it to say that I don't think it garners the eye more because he's not apologizing. And after the Donner game, I don't expect Russ to say anything if it's game related.

I don't expect nor want him to reveal anything game related. In fact, if it is game related, I would expect him to do an apologetic post to save appearances. I think that was what I was saying in the first place.

That's a fair stance to have, but on the other hand, it would surely get me lynched. It's clear I have been in thread and am caught up. People have noted this multiple times. So why lie about something verifiable if I'm civ? Great way to get mistaken for a baddie and lynched, if you ask me.

I haven't posted because I haven't wanted to post. End of story.

I can't say what would "surely get you lynched". My impression was being absent twice already - my definition for "absent" here being: not posting; not posting even when you are visible in the thread or when people see that you are in the thread and expect to hear something from you - would surely get you lynched, but the others will have to chime in on this.

I guess they will. My point is, the host has made it clear in thread that I'm not X-Kira. I don't see how my behavior this game indicates that I'm any other Kira, either. So if you do want to go after me, admit it's not because you think I'm a certain role, it's just that you don't like how I play.

Ricochet wrote:

FZ. wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Am I supposed to address anything in your post, FZ? Not sure why you quoted my exchange with Russ, except for the penultimate paragraph.

Oops, sorry. Yeah, I just quoted it to say that I don't think it garners the eye more because he's not apologizing. And after the Donner game, I don't expect Russ to say anything if it's game related.

I don't expect nor want him to reveal anything game related. In fact, if it is game related, I would expect him to do an apologetic post to save appearances. I think that was what I was saying in the first place.

That's a fair stance to have, but on the other hand, it would surely get me lynched. It's clear I have been in thread and am caught up. People have noted this multiple times. So why lie about something verifiable if I'm civ? Great way to get mistaken for a baddie and lynched, if you ask me.

I haven't posted because I haven't wanted to post. End of story.

FZ. wrote:Russ, while you're here, can you actually talk about the players and what you think about them?

Yes indeed!

As I said before, I think TH has made it clear through his behavior that lynching him is a waste of time. Llama has seemed to be his normal, slightly wacky, gun-ho baddie-hunting self. I started out thinking Epi seemed really bad, but have flipped my stance since he thought he would potentially be lynched and came off as very genuine. Hopefully most of that could be gleaned from my previous posts and votes. I have agreed with most everything Rico has said. He was one of the ones not sad about Yotsuba dying (although clearly lynching them shouldn't be a priority). He's also posted helpful analysis, so even though he suspects me I'm doubtful that he's bad.

boo I started off being absolutely convinced was detective. Then he had a spat with...Epi, I think? Since then I've read him as somewhat grumpy and with a MAJOR dose of tunnel-vision. I'm worried that shut down his interest in the game, and I'm trying to decide whether I think it's permanent. If he could go back to posting more analytically then I would feel a lot better about him. For example, his bea case was kind of a "believe, I promise I'm right" deal in the vein of Zomba's on Snowman, but that's not really boo's (best) play style like it is Zomba's. So I'm kinda waiting on the return of Detailed Analysis boo, but he has my eye for now.

I am a little worried about Elo. Her posts read to me as trying to justify why the baddies aren't bad, and that just doesn't seem like it can be a good sign. However, I usually rely on Epi's read of her to be sure, and he's refused to give one. That would make me worry about Epi too, normally. So I think there are 2 possibilities, and idk how to decide which one is better. Either what Epi posted about not being able to read Elo is true, or (and this would explain why Epi and Elo both aren't talking about it) maybe Epi knows Elo is bad and has decided it's unfair to call her out every single time, s he's just not getting involved.

Finally, I think there's a decent chance Made is bad. I will potentially vote there tomorrow, but I am trying to take a "wait and see" approach based on his recent posts and whether better leads emerge.

Made wrote:Catching up, page 30/45. But I felt the need to comment on this.

[clipped for brevity]...

I would be in the perfect position if i were a baddie this game. In the last 8 pages I read catching up, i was mentioned once, and it was a joke in passing. We need to make sure players like me or FZ seen above aren't slipping through the cracks. I'm not saying to vote low poster, but maybe general mindfulness of low post to content ratio?

This was on Day 1. So he's advocating not forgetting low posters, that's fine. But if we're looking at post-to-content ratio going forward, I think Made is at or near the top of that list.

D2:

Made wrote:What's the general case on Snowman?

Made wrote:Just looked the votes...didn't know there was so much steam on BWT, Snow, or llama. gonna look over BWT, prolly not going to vote FZ, solid maybe on Snowman. Need to read boo's case on llama.
I'm having trouble finding the case on BWT. quick help anyone?
Also, is there a case on Epi that i don't know about, surprised to see SVS go that way, that said, i've only read the last 5 pages, then back to page 30 or so.

This is weird, because he was on Page 30 on Day 1. I don't see why he would lie about that, but it does seem weird to only read 5 pages and not say anything about how you're busy.

D3:

Made wrote:Hello friends! this game is very busy and intimidating. That said, i have nothing to do till lynch, so lezzgo. Stand by.

I kind of expected a big post here, but 3 hours later on D3:

Made wrote:Anyways, reading....nothing jumping out at me. This will sound stupid- because it is- but I literally don't have any leads as of yet, of, my own anyways. The case epi has on Dh seems like a stretch, but it merits, especially in the post that MM pointed out. That said I currently think Dh and Epi are both civvie just because to post so much ( i mean an argument the size of a page) and be bad would take a very strange kind of person I would never understand.

Anyways... either going to jump on bandwagon for accountability or self vote because I literally can't find the argument on Snowman.

Thought i'd given myself enough time to read everything and have options and all that jazz, but clearly i hadn't.

Really? 3 hours of nothing but mafia (as you said yourself) isn't enough for one single opinion?

To be fair, on D4 he did post a lot of opinions on people, as well as some darned insightful analysis. So that makes me feel a little better about him. If it continues into D5 I could see myself voting elsewhere.

He did say one thing since then that bugs me a lot, though:

Made wrote:Random thought during AP Lit: While I kinda agree with it, isn't it kinda a cough out to vote TH and Russ? gonna check something....

then, after taking votes from both me and bea in a fairly tight lynch...

Made wrote:I say that we start discussion with Russ and Bea. I'll take point tomorrow before I go to work, for now, my head hurts. done with mafia for a sec. might come back later tonight.

Reads like a NO U to me. And a cop-out.

Ricochet wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:Can we stop with the "Russ is X Kira" thing? Our Sockian Overlord confirmed, in thread, that his "strict daily schedule" was for flavor only, when Rico asked. The Sock would have been much more cryptic if that weren't true. Also, it's now morning, and I have mostly posted in the evening.

And Made only suspects me because I voted him.

And why did we try lynching TH, again? He hasn't been very subtle about not fearing that one bit. We played into his hands by lynching him yesterday, and doing so again would be another waste of time.

He speaks again.

Oh please. The worries about me are that I'm not posting, but I get the eye for posting? Way to encourage my participation.

Yes, after another round of Night/Day absence (except for your D4 vote), I do not think that participating again clears you of any suspicion. You did not get my eye for posting, but for returning from silence and doing it again after a full Night/Day phase of silence.

I also notice you make no apologetic absence/catch-up post, like any other player would do if he'd have missed out on a discussion, a vote, a phase or so. So yeah, the eye is staying.

My mistake, then. The eye was juxtaposed with a statement about my posting, not with my previous lack thereof. I drew the obvious assumption and apparently was wrong.

And why would I apologize for being absent or catching up when I'm not? That seems a little silly, or ingenuous.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Zomberella12 wrote: No kidding. Besides, how could you tell the difference between someone who is bad and "wants to look helpful" and someone who is good and "wants to look helpful"? Are detectives not allowed to look helpful in this game? I guess a civvie would say, "Ooh a puzzle, better not help because that would make me look bad because it makes me look good?" I hope that didn't happen. I really do.

Also, DP makes me mad. I don't care if this is his regular game. His regular game is stupid. Play or don't. If he chooses not to play, then I want to lynch him.

On a scale of one to ten, how much better off are the detectives for having spent all those pages on the puzzle?

Regarding DP, that's why we added the participation score. It will catch up to him.

Time != pages.

I noticed this earlier. Have we a Python user in our midst?

Ricochet wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:Can we stop with the "Russ is X Kira" thing? Our Sockian Overlord confirmed, in thread, that his "strict daily schedule" was for flavor only, when Rico asked. The Sock would have been much more cryptic if that weren't true. Also, it's now morning, and I have mostly posted in the evening.

And Made only suspects me because I voted him.

And why did we try lynching TH, again? He hasn't been very subtle about not fearing that one bit. We played into his hands by lynching him yesterday, and doing so again would be another waste of time.

He speaks again.

Oh please. The worries about me are that I'm not posting, but I get the eye for posting? Way to encourage my participation.

Can we stop with the "Russ is X Kira" thing? Our Sockian Overlord confirmed, in thread, that his "strict daily schedule" was for flavor only, when Rico asked. The Sock would have been much more cryptic if that weren't true. Also, it's now morning, and I have mostly posted in the evening.

And Made only suspects me because I voted him.

And why did we try lynching TH, again? He hasn't been very subtle about not fearing that one bit. We played into his hands by lynching him yesterday, and doing so again would be another waste of time.

Well, sorry for the multipost thread spam. I'm voting Snowman today. I'd love to hear more from Bass sometime soon (I know, pot, kettle), and Made as well.

Turnip Head wrote:

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:I was just going to ask what people thought about Russ but he appears to be making a post now. I'm excited.

So he began to make a post and then left. How rude.

I've seen him do that a few times. I think he's doing it just to fuck with us.

I ain't fucking with nobody, mister!

I know that's kind of a switch for me, since I voted Epi yesterday.

I do think I will vote Snowman. I don't see him getting more into the game, or contributing much else of value. I get that he's probably also frustrated, like Epi, but he's being even less helpful about it.

Zombs, if you are wrong and Snowman is a detective, I will never ever EVER trust your read of him again. Fair?

Linki: lol @ MM. Well played, sir.

Also, whoever it was that said "DON'T LISTEN TO TH" was absolutely right. I know people are saying they're ignoring him, but I am afraid that his constant harping on Epi has been affecting the thread anyway. So that makes me even more leery.

I'm still deciding whether I think MM's case is well-meaning.

Hi!

I am strongly considering it.

I know I've been after Epi for a few days now, and I still don't believe he's a True Blue detective, but I also don't think he's out to take us down. If he were the evil Epi I know, he'd be making vague threats and hinting that he's unlynchable by this point. I also think that despite his defeatism, we might be able to get him back in the game if we give him a little breathing room. So I won't be voting there today.

EBWOP: You haven't mentioned here on-topic. You have mentioned wanting to sleep with her and her stopping you sleeping with other people (both of which were hilarious).

More linki: Well then. I find that worrisome, personally. Others' thoughts?

Also I think if there were lots of BTSC the vote pattern could be construed as a save for Snowman. However, since there isn't and I'm not super suspicious of the people who voted BWT late anyway, I don't think looking at late voters is a productive strategy for tomorrow. Hope that makes sense.

Linki: But still, as S~V~S pointed out, baddie is in the role description! But I guess now I'm rehashing old things.
I should also point out that zeek said essentially the same thing as you regarding that.

@Epi: I mean, feel free to not answer, but you've never hesitated to talk about Elo's alignment before, no matter what it is. It's Night 2 and I don't think you've mentioned her once. At least, if you have, it wasn't to voice a strong opinion.

@ Zomba: Yeah, he got a little tunnel-vision-y with Snowman, but llama does that. Don't you think he's been contributing a lot? He the top poster, and I think he still would be Top 5 if you took out most of his Snowman posts. And he read as genuinely frustrated about being suspected as a civ earlier today. Did you find that insincere?

So depending how they respond, I may be looking at Epi and/or Elo for tomorrow.

I also am curious why BR voted where she did when she did. I'm sure you explained, but could you go over it again? Seemed to me like you wanted to have as little influence on that lynch as possible.

Linki: Kira.

More random thoughts:

This was a great thing to point out, given the repeated accusations that I am X Kira (I'm not, by the way) -

boo wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:It's entirely possible and extremely likely that Russ has a role that gained something by staying silent on Day 1. What I don't really know at this point is what role that would be. My best guess, X Kira, is clearly wrong.

My problem now with it being role related is that since we now know the roles of living players are going to be revealed over time or when conditions are met or whatever, is that if that is in a role it would out him when that role gets revealed, while outting him as not certain roles (like X Kira) as they are revealed. That seems really weird to me, especially because there is no ambivalence about it, he's the only person who didn't post, we didn't have like 3 or 4 people who could each have a role with something similar.

boo wrote:Ok, thanks. So the X Kira very strict, daily schedule, which has nothing to do with what was revealed in his role, is just entirely flavour then unless he has a different win condition then what is stated for the team.

Elohcin wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:

zeek wrote:Nobody reads my posts

I read your post and it pinged the hell out of me what do you mean there's no civ team?

I've been saying this for a while now. Someone else, DH, Ace, can't remember said that 58% of us don't want to kiss non-detectives. This game seems to be less of a civvie/baddie/independant type game. Even as a viewer of the show, (as I said before) it's difficult to decide who to go for....Light or the Detectives. Both feel they are doing what is good and right.

I honestly think it might be best that we stop referring to each other as civ or bad and instead as kira or detectives.

I'm not usually a person to read too hard into slips, but what?? This almost sounds like Elo is bad and is trying to reason her way out of feeling bad for killing people.

Epi, what is your read on Elo?? (I'll remind all the viewers at home, Epi without fail knows Elo's alignment, and has repeatedly called her out when bad and defended her when good.)

RIP LC. I'm sad your dead, and this made me literally lol:

Black Rock wrote:

Long Con wrote:

boo wrote:Your silence (for you), makes me consider the same thing LC. :P The fact that it's both you and BR just adds to it or makes me think you guys are just busy right now. But neither of you have actually played that card. I wonder if lynching one of you would draw the other out more?

Take her! Take her! I'll post more!

You I will deal with later.

Linki: Yeah, a Yotsuba Epi is possible, I guess. Without knowing their win condition, it's hard to surmise why that alignment might make him act as he has. Hopefully it'll be revealed at some point.

Geez what a crazy game so far! Here are some of my strongest impressions, presented in no real order:

I'm not particularly broken up about BWT dying, personally. I have Yotsuba filed as "indie for now, with potential to become bad". So clearly not as good as getting a Kira, but still not a bad thing. You know who's sad when Yotsubas die, I bet? Other Yotsubas (ahem ahem).

I think that the content and quality of llama's posts strongly indicate he's a civ, and yes, as a civ he is without fail very opinionated and talkative. So I think people should lay off and let him play his game.

Llama, as I said, I think we're both civ, but I think one of us is being flummoxed, because we're trusting pretty much exactly the opposite people. For example, I think S~V~S's analysis has been as helpful as yours, and so I strongly believe she's civ. boo is reading civ to me as well, whereas Epi is not. Can we discuss, please?

I have good feels about FZ. so far, and though I don't have a strong read on Snowman I think the case on him was super weak, and that some people are being too hard on him. I could be wrong, but my impression is that Epi, in particular, sees him as a threat and wants him gone, and that it may not be related to role. Epi, afraid of a psychologist putting the kibosh on your brain games? :P

Oh! And speaking of Epi, do you guys think he's just being weird, or do you suppose a role-related reason for him not voting his main suspects? I couldn't find anything obvious about who would do that or why, but it just seems so unusual for any experienced player to do that twice that I'm looking for reasons.

Linki: What boo said.

Fair enough, BR.

birdwithteeth11 wrote: I'll be honest. I mostly posted my original post for today in that way because I wanted to see what kinds of reactions I would get out of TH and yourself. I think TH's reaction was very telling in particular.

As for you, I am still curious as to why you did not post at all in the game until now. Care to explain why?

Hmm, telling good or telling bad?

And I can't talk about not talking! That defeats the whole point, man!

Welp that's it for me tonight, all. I'm going to finish the Death Note anime, and then to bed.

Where's the guy who's been begging you to talk when you need him?

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:Alright. I'm going to start approaching this game in a different way. And a different playstyle.

TH and Russ: I want a defense from both of you. Whoever gives a worse defense of why they shouldn't be lynched will get my vote.

......

Also, Russ, I don't need a defense from you (yet). But I do want to know why you haven't posted anything in this game until Day 2.

Linki 2: I'm looking at the two of you because:

1) TH - Voting someone with no explanation whatsoever. Sure, he might be forced. But I feel like something more nefarious is going on.

2) [Russ] did a drive-by-vote on Day 0, didn't post then at all, and didn't post at all during Day 1 or Night 1. So I think you have something to hide too.

I think those are two very good reasons to look at voting one of the two of you today.

(Quote edited for size, but using BWT's words where possible to keep the gist.)

So you want my defense but don't need it yet?

Linki: Haha thanks, BR! To me boo's analysis this game seems on-point. Very well thought-out and helpful. What makes you ask?

boo wrote:Sure Russ, if you also want to say that he was forced vote yesterday when he also voted for llama without saying anything other than llama is a bad llama to explain it. But hey, apparently you didn't get to start posting until now, so who the fuck knows what's going on?

Did he really? My bad then, I missed that he had done that. Ok well in that case he is clearly unconcerned about being lynched. Also unconcerned with helping civs. Hmmm, now who does that sound like?....

Spacedaisy wrote:Ok, just finished catching up. I feel really weird about TH. not weird like I want to lunch him but weird like he wants to be lynched.

(About TH just now):

birdwithteeth11 wrote:I think you're a Shinigami. I think you're acting this way because you're immune to dying in any way. So you're playing a completely brazen, reckless game.

triceratopzeuhl wrote:Since it looks like I'm getting lynched today - there will be a whole lot of "I told you so" when ace, bwt, TH, and possibly blackrock and DH turn up baddie. Callin' it now

linki - zomba - are you shitting me? I didn't say that at all

So I don't think trice could possibly be right about all of these. However, I did find Aces and TH fishy on Day 1. Because of TH's voting pattern, I'm concerned he's unlynchable today. However, I do think Aces is worth a look.

Black Rock wrote:Oh thank goodness, Russ has posted and maybe we can get some closure and move on.

Yes, let's!

I did mean to say before, I haven't read every single post, but I've read most and have followed the major discussions. And it blows that Matsuda is dead, his role is sick.

I do think Epi's eye check thing is kinda weird, and that in combination with his tunnel vision on me it paints a bad picture. But maybe I'm biased. I could see myself voting him today.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:Alright. I'm going to start approaching this game in a different way. And a different playstyle.

TH and Russ: I want a defense from both of you. Whoever gives a worse defense of why they shouldn't be lynched will get my vote.

Let the game begin...

Linki: Good try, boo. :/

My defense = TH's defense.

How's about you explain why you're looking at the two of us exclusively?

Anyways, my impression was that TH's vote may have been forced. At least, that's why most players I've seen instavote have done it.

So, I confess to having not read every single post in this game. However, I think Epi talking a lot about me and not voting me is standard Epi. In fact I guess he was hoping I'd say something to defend myself. (No such luck! :P) I do think it's weird that he's been talking about it for so long, though. Go find someone else's tree to bark up, please!

Reading up on these revealed secrets now...

Linki: OH HAI GUYZ!

DharmaHelper wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Zomberella12 wrote:I'm here. Reading posts from today.

@Llama, so I think my assessment of your posting was based on length not number. I'm gonna have to reassess how I assess. Anyway, not voting for you today.

Brevity is the soul of wit, quoth the Bard.

Wu Tang Clan ain't nothing to fuck with, quoth the Wu Tang Clan.

YES!