The Syndicate

Russtifinko wrote:And did I miss something? What's with the funny hat avatars going around, here?

That's what.

BANNERS!

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I don't know if Russti is hosting again anytime soon, but llama's Frisky Dingbat Mafia is the next full game in the queue.

That's true, and I think it will be a fun one!

Regarding infodumping, I used to be more tightfisted about it, but Epignosis pointed out to me (and experience proved him right) that civilians who infodump usually don't last long. They create their own punishment, which I prefer to having to hand donw punishments as a host.

Rehgarding dead civs winning, I don't know, I just don't like the idea of having 25 winners in every game the civilians win. It cheapens the win, in my view, to have the entire faction receive it. With smaller teams, it's less of a problem

Well, that formatting was horrible, but you get the idea.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Anyone wants to help me figure out the roles, since the mods aren't saying anything? Here's what i've got:

Adam Smith = MP
Jean-BaptistSay = G-Man
Carl Menger = Metalmarsh
Ludwig Von mises = Vomps?
F. A. Hakek = Golden 1.0
Joseph Schumpeter = sanmateo
John Nash = DDL
Vilfredo Pareto = ?
Paul Samuelson = ?
Ronald Coase = ?
Milton Friedman = Epi
Murray Rothbard = aether
Arthur Pigou = fingersplints
George Alerkof = Turnip Head

John Maynard Keynes = Roxy
Karl Marx = Bass
David Ricardo = Black Rock
Robert Solow = bwt/Golden 2.0

Thomas Malthus = Elo

So all that's left are Bubbles, Jay and Sloonei. Also Vomps assuming he was not Von Mises.

acrosstheaether Murray Rothbard
Bass_the_Clever Karl Marx
Golden 2.0 Robert Solow
Black Rock David Ricardo
Vompatti Ludwig von Mises
Dragon D. Luffy John Nash
Elohcin Thomas Malthus
Epignosis Milton Friedman
fingersplints Arthur Pigou
G-Man Jean Babtiste Say
Golden FA Hayek
JaggedJimmyJay Vilfredo Pareto
Metalmarsh89 Carl Menger
MovingPictures07 Adam Smith
Roxy John Maynard Keynes
sanmateo Joseph Schumpeter
Sloonei Paul Samueleson
TinyBubbles Ronald Coase
Turnip Head George Akerlof

Golden wrote:So, I guess the game was over because I had it won at that point. If it could have played out, I was NKing vomps, trying to convince splints to use her vote manipulation the next day, stopping the lynch, killing her that night, and if that still failed using my vote manipulations the day after. This lynch was really the key.

Thank you for a very well played game, guys. You made it incredibly tough for me, I've never had to work this hard as a mafia before.

TB was my fault. I thought she was Akerlof. But the rest of the kills were in the order that I determined on the first day I was in the game. MPs flip on splints meant he had some way of getting info. So did his "TB is not adam smith" statement. Plus his dogpee mafia team that was completely off base was too good to allow him the chance to change his mind.

TH had to be akerlof, and he had to go next. DDL went because I figured if JJ could use a NK protect that's the night he would use it (I so would have preferred to lynch you DDL). Then JJ, who I would have killed three days earlier if I could have, but I just couldn't.

Unfortunately, games like this screw up my civilian game for months, because everyone stops trusting me.

Thanks for being a team, Bass and Roxy! I'm sorry it didn't last long.

That's right, there was no way you could have lost at this point, especially since Fingersplints' role would have required her to vote for herself as well as you.

I want to thank all of the players for making this game amazing (and shattering the Speed Game posting record.) A special shout out to all the first time Syndicaters who were truly an asset.

Golden made an amazing comeback after having his team completely decimated early on. He excelled at item management and manipulating the thread though. Good game everyone.

Who killed our talkative teddy??

Poll ended at Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:41:05 pm

fingersplints
1
fingersplints (14)
7%

G-Man
2
Vompatti (12), Golden (13)
14%

Golden
1
G-Man (11)
7%

Russtifinko
0
No votes

thellama73
0
No votes

Vompatti
0
No votes

The evil space monkeys! (Hosts/Dead)
10
Russtifinko (1), Dragon D. Luffy (2), MovingPictures07 (3), Sloonei (4), Metalmarsh89 (5), JaggedJimmyJay (6), acrosstheaether (7), thellama73 (8), sanmateo (9), Bass_the_Clever (10)
71%

Total votes : 14

Five minutes. This is so exciting.

Please stop talking about your purchases (real or imagined). It violates Rule #3 on the first page. Anything not learned from the thread doe snot belong in the thread.

Golden wrote:So my name is G-Man now?

I'm sure I have no idea what you mean.

It's a rap battle! Vote for your favorite rap between our two homies, Golden and JaggedJimmyJay.

Rap #1
Trouble with this gen, we don't have nothing to say
But you can't level that shit at my homie JJJ
We post like its a famine, like we livin' in hovels
JJ swoops in like the fucking Red Cross, he's written seven novels
We may be out on the street, but we on our feet, we got our beats
He think we need his aid packages to make us complete
Iso here, iso there, he brings a fucking iso to keep us fed
Seven words would do instead, give me my gun I'll shoot the iso dead
Probably works for the UN, sits in meetings all day
Getting paid, getting made, no way he getting laid
JJJ sitting in his office talking bout economic theory
On the street you got a clock, one day you're found floating in Lake Erie
The shit don't even get through, what I gotta make you a diorama?
Its taxed by corrupt rich fat white people like russti and llama
So JJ, when you next play and you think its aid time
Remember we see through your UN shit, and we also really know how to fucking rhyme
And don't tell me that I'm pushing the fucking metaphor too far
I don't even know what a metaphor is
But I'm pretty sure every word in this rap is literally true
JJ probably even watches Full House reruns
Out.

Rap #2
Well isn't this convenient?
All I have to do is show
Which certain special ingredient
Makes you the worst mafioso I know

Listen closely, I don't have all night
I could be winning the game right now
But I'm told you might have the right
To know why and to know how

Don't take this the wrong way Golden
But if I gotta vote "most terrible player"
It's your username I'm gonna embolden
Poor bastards on your team ain't got no prayer

So without further ado...
I'm gonna tell you why you suck.
Dude, you have only yourself to thank
SPOILER ALERT

Spoiler: show

MovingPictures07 wrote:Sockface wants either a lynch post or a resurrection.

What time does the poll end, Sock? You will get your lynch post then and NOT ONE SECOND BEFORE!

There has not been an on topic post from a living player in 15 posts.

G-Man wrote:

You know I am all about individualism, son.

Reminder to all my players: Trading in items for the goodies listed on the front page can only be done at night. Once purhcased, those things can be used at any time, with the exceeption of the NK protect, which happens immediately.

sanmateo wrote:i'm sorry how is "i thought it would look more suspicious" a valid defense?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
sanmateo wrote:can we talk about night actions that aren't inherent to our role?
Probably not. But I'll go ahead and ask a similar question:

Can we talk about night action stuff when we were in the receiving end of them?
yeah someone answer this

Russ should really be the one answering this. He is extremely anti-infodumping. My answer is that you should be careful. Being too explicit about what powers have been used on you is usually a good way to get killed, even if it doesn't technically break any rules.

Bass makes a good point, and I think it doesn't serve much game purpose to continue to discuss Roxy's real life situation. I would prefer if people would refrain from doing so.

Day 5

The economists were on a roll, knocking of Keynesians left right and center. At this rate, we might restore sanity to the profession. Good job everyone! The question is, can they keep it up?

The economy is BOOMing, with the notable exception of the market for designer socks, which is deeply depressed.

MovingPictures07 has been killed by Robert Solow.
It is now Day 5. You have 48 hours to lynch a bad guy.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:CTRL+F'd Roxy's posts for "TH" and got 1,526 results. that abbreviation has to stop. :P

Try putting spaces before and after.

This discussion reveals why I like to make games with individual, unique win conditions. I need to make another of those soon.

Golden wrote: Hosts, does Adam Smith target a player or an ability.

No.

And for all our players, we have a special treat!

Two of your fellow players have decided to sing a song for you. Please vote on the singer you most prefer by the end of the Night phase.

Effective immediately, Golden 2.0 is replacing birdwithteeth11.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:I think we should talk about this. Who would rather be taxed $1 every 3 Days? Who would rather be taxed 30% of all earnings?
I'd almost think 30% of all earnings would hurt the mafia more on one condition...

@Hosts: Feel free to ignore this if someone else already asked it before I finished my catch-up, but...

Are the mafia allowed to pool their income and resources together or not?

What do you think this is, Communist Mafia? We practice methodological individualism in this house!

thellama73 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:LOL the hosts are on the poll! Were they before? I don't think so.
Don't vote for me. I have modkills and I'm not afraid to use them.

Also, I think Russ is bad.

MovingPictures07 wrote:LOL the hosts are on the poll! Were they before? I don't think so.

Don't vote for me. I have modkills and I'm not afraid to use them.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:I'm just saying let's keep vote manipulation from guns and butter in mind going forward.
very good point. i'd not considered that and i should have.

I don't believe this was made clear, so I want to do it here before anyone complains.

The items on the front page are to be purchased AT NIGHT ONLY. They can then be used at your convenience (with the exception of the NK protect, which only happens the night it is purchased.)

So if you buy a +1 vote, you hold onto it until you want to use it. You can't buy it at the last minute during the day though.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote: You know, that's hilarious, because Elo did a similar thing in Death Note where she tried to argue that the lines between civilian and mafia were blurred due to the very unconventional nature of much of my setup. She was mafia.
To be fair, I think outing herself to me in BTSC had more to do with her being lynched that game.
That was so great.

One of my very favorite Mafia moments.

MovingPictures07 wrote: You know, that's hilarious, because Elo did a similar thing in Death Note where she tried to argue that the lines between civilian and mafia were blurred due to the very unconventional nature of much of my setup. She was mafia.

To be fair, I think outing herself to me in BTSC had more to do with her being lynched that game.

Sloonei wrote: why am I mafia?

I don't know why, but this strikes me as an incredibly funny quote. I lol'ed.

Night 2: Population Control

"So," the economists said in unison. "You want to keep the population down, do you, Malthus? Well, welcome to You Town. Population: zero!"

Serves him right for having terrible theories.

Elohcin has been lynched. She was Thomas Malthus.
You have 24 hours to send in role PMs.

Who's killing all these people?

Poll ended at Sun May 24, 2015 5:57:41 pm

acrosstheaether
1
Dragon D. Luffy (7)
6%

Bass_the_Clever
0
No votes

birdwithteeth11
0
No votes

Black Rock
1
fingersplints (9)
6%

Dragon D. Luffy
2
Turnip Head (10), Elohcin (15)
13%

Elohcin
8
TinyBubbles (3), sanmateo (4), MovingPictures07 (5), acrosstheaether (6), G-Man (11), Sloonei (13), Bass_the_Clever (14), JaggedJimmyJay (16)
50%

fingersplints
0
No votes

G-Man
0
No votes

JaggedJimmyJay
0
No votes

MovingPictures07
0
No votes

Roxy
0
No votes

sanmateo
0
No votes

Sloonei
0
No votes

TinyBubbles
1
Vompatti (12)
6%

Turnip Head
1
Roxy (8)
6%

Paul Krugman (Hosts/Mod)
2
thellama73 (1), Metalmarsh89 (2)
13%

MovingPictures07 wrote:(and we all remember how rocky some of the first few games with PAers and LPers were, since they approach the game differently)

I was a PAer. Was I rocky?

Also, if anyone really wants to be replaced, they need to let the hosts know via PM.

Just a friendly host/mod reminder that we want to keep the thread civil and game-oriented. Please refrain from personal attacks and bring any complaints to me via PM.

I'm not saying anyone has done anything wrong, but I want to make sure we keep it that way.

fingersplints wrote:Most of the times the hosts make a post in the beginning that includes links to the day/night posts. The guys just probably haven't gotten around to it yet

Ask and you shall receive.

Sloonei wrote:Also, do any of this community's regulars have tips for us noobs on how to proceed with the scumhuntery sans role reveals?

I'm puzzled as to how role reveals would make scum huntery easier, escpially with only one mafia team. It's not like the mafia know the role of the person they kill beforehand.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:I think you are the ones who have the silly rules. I never heard of this thing before and I've seen mafia games in multiple places.

We even have a name for the mafia role who can (usually a limited number of times) kill a person without revealing their role. It's called a janitor.

I have much to learn from you, o traveler from an arcane land.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:So Adam Smith targetted Malthus and stole his kill, if I'm getting it correctly. That means we have a townie who knows who the serial killer is. Awesome.

Btw, no role reveals on death? Really? Are games here always like this?

Night killed roles are not revealed. Lynches are. You folks at other sites sure have silly rules.

Day 2

Economics has been called "the dismal science." After last night, it's not hard to see why.

Throughout the night, most of the economists beavered away producing things, and as a result times are BOOMING! But a prosperous economy is small consolation to those not around to enjoy it. Disproving the theory that two wrongs don't make a right, MovingPictures was having such a bad day that he got the heck out of dodge just before something terrible happened. When he came back, some people were dead, and most of the booze was gone.

Metalmarsh89 has been killed by John Maynard Keynes.
Epignosis has been killed by Adam Smith.

My, what a bloodthirsty bunch.

You have 48 hours to lynch one of these vicious killers.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Are we allowed to discuss items in the game thread?

Sure, why not.

Epignosis wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
thellama73 wrote:I know this has been said a couple of times, but I want to reiterate that if I am not included on a PM about a Night action/production/selling it will not go in my spreadsheet and I cannot guarantee that you will benefit from its effects, so to maximize efficiency (like all good economists) make sure my lovely name is in your PM "to" field.

Thank you!

Regarding the "resources".

Does each player gain one gun and one butter on a nightly basis? Is that how that works?
You have to pick one or the other to produce.

Stop expecting handouts from the government.

Correct. Each player either produces or sells. If you produce guns, you get one gun. If you produce butter, you get one butter. Selling prices are determined by the business cycle and scertain role powers.

Epignosis wrote:Dom has been replaced by Vompatti.

He sure has. Have fun with Vomps!

Who doesn't believe in the free market?

Poll ended at Thu May 21, 2015 6:04:04 pm

acrosstheaether
0
No votes

Bass_the_Clever
5
JaggedJimmyJay (6), birdwithteeth11 (7), Sloonei (14), Golden (15), MovingPictures07 (17)
28%

birdwithteeth11
0
No votes

Black Rock
0
No votes

Dom
0
No votes

Dragon D. Luffy
0
No votes

Elohcin
0
No votes

Epignosis
0
No votes

fingersplints
0
No votes

G-Man
0
No votes

Golden
7
Turnip Head (4), Metalmarsh89 (5), Dragon D. Luffy (10), Epignosis (11), Elohcin (12), G-Man (16), Bass_the_Clever (18)
39%

JaggedJimmyJay
0
No votes

MetalMarsh89
0
No votes

MovingPictures07
2
sanmateo (8), fingersplints (9)
11%

Roxy
0
No votes

sanmateo
0
No votes

Sloonei
0
No votes

TinyBubbles
0
No votes

Turnip Head
1
Roxy (13)
6%

Mister Rogers (Hosts/Mod)
3
Russtifinko (1), S~V~S (2), thellama73 (3)
17%

Total votes : 18

I know this has been said a couple of times, but I want to reiterate that if I am not included on a PM about a Night action/production/selling it will not go in my spreadsheet and I cannot guarantee that you will benefit from its effects, so to maximize efficiency (like all good economists) make sure my lovely name is in your PM "to" field.

Thank you!

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Hostly reminder: The poll ends in 63 minutes.
73?

thellama73

Hostly reminder: The poll ends in 63 minutes.

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