The Syndicate

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:31 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:28 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:27 am Jay that day we lynched Made instead of Eloh were you really convinced by Eloh's defenses or just going along with whatever. Cus I was pretty much doing the latter.

I was full of shit. Made was one of my candidates to be Sonya Blade.

pffffffft

I could tell you were full of shit at the end of the game. I think I have been bad with you enough to tell now, maybe. I thought it was obvious in the thread that we were working together, but apparently only obvious to us. You did know I was the last baddie, right?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:38 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:33 am I was hoping to set myself up as a liaison of sorts between the mafia team and you, in that you would indicate who you needed dead, and we would kill them. But as I thought some amount of trust was being established, you instead turned around and pushed for my lynch.

Mafia is a game, I know. I find it hard to remind myself of that sometimes. At the time, I found it incredibly hard to justify the actions you were taking, and was bothered by your tone at times. But if I ever unjustly lashed out at you, I apologize. I don't recall if I did, but I did feel the urge to do so.

No worries at all, and to be fair my tone probably was a frustrating one. I felt like I had to be extra assertive to get anyone to listen to me given that it was generally well-known that I was Kano and thus hard to trust.

Jay, it was SO frustrating. I still think your reasons were BS and didn't sound genuine. Now, knowing you had info, this all make sense. I am horrible at that too...calling someone out for mafianess when I only have info but no real evidence.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:39 am As a non-civilian, I honestly found the dunya lynch baffling. She was transparently civilian; she made like 300 posts in one cycle as a replacement. I have never seen a mafia member explode like that in my life. Sometimes tinfoiling goes way too far to make sense.

But that is dunya for you. It is in her meta to do so.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:47 am FEB Family

Wins	Players
9	Elohcin, Epignosis

haha, WOOT!

Thank you, Epi, for all your hard work. It was a great game!

woo hoo! That was a stressful end to the game. It's hard to believe we pulled it off. I think this is the first game where I was the last baddie alive.

Thanks Jay for the help. And I am so glad you got to win, kyle.

tbh, one of my weaknesses as a mafia player is not learning the roles/abilities and connecting them to the players throughout the game. I always have good intentions of spreadsheeting at the beginning of the game, but I never keep up. Thank you for doing some digging, Quin.

very disturbing gif. And I don't know how nova was killed. I'm telling you, the behind the scenes/secrets have got to be off the wall. It will be a very interesting endgame. So how are our numbers now since we managed to NOT get a baddie. I told you kyle was indie.

oh derp...that wasn't a switch...both were at 3 votes. My bad.

WHAT?! Switch to kyle? Did you do that, Lap?

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:09 pm Tell me why you want to lynch Elohcin too.

yeah, that's messed up. She goes back and forth on me, sure I;m bad, sure I'm good, ready to lynch me again. Lap doesn't know what she is talking about

lapluie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:59 pm @Elohcin can we not risk the chances , Nova just gave you a logical response here, are you able to abide by that?

what, that Epi would automatically let civs win because of a no-show. I don't think so.

And your arguments for Dave not being the last baddie are based on "he said" stuff. My argument that Dave IS the last baddie is based on the fact of a no kill.

It's family tv time...yes, Full House and Family Matters on hulu...TGIF! Be back later after the kids go to bed.

@nova - I don't think that's true.

@jay - I agree

because we will win!

I am guessing someone picked wilgy to get lynched the next day as their night action. And even though wilgy was off the poll (maybe someone else had the ability to remove someone from the poll) he still got lynched.

I want ot vote Dave. the others want to vote you. I am just getting opinions from others

because I did NOT swap any lynch. And because they want to lynch a baddie.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:06 pm @Elohcin If Dave is the last Mafia and has been inactive since the beginning, why go for him now ? We can play the safe card and for Kyle/Quin who are wild cards. If Dave is really the last scum, there won't be kill tonight so leave him to tomorrow. There is no rush to lynch an inactive.

I hear you. I think with there being no kill, Dave is it. IF we go for Quin instead...do we still have the numbers to get Dave next?

@Jay...What do you think about what they are saying about Quin. I see no baddie behavior in him. The only reason we would lynch him before Dave is to keep from having a night kill tonight. But, if we lynch Dave and he is the last baddie...game over, civs win. What are your thoughts?

And....if Jay was here, maybe he would have joined chuck and aligned himself with mafia for the win. but he wasn't and couldn't. I think Jay is with us. I think we can get this last baddie.

chuck mentioned that there were only two mafia left, I am sure I remember that. there was no kill. That makes me thing Dave is the last mafia. I think chuck may have been trying to get jjj on his side because he knew he was the last participating mafia. He was taking a stab at a last ditch effort to win. It didn't work for him. I really think Dave is the way to go.

I am being wishy-washy, I know. But I want to get this right. does anyone else think Dave could be mafia?

why couldn't Dave be mafia? There was no kill last night after chuck's lynch. perhaps no one was there to turn in a pm

that is why I voted with him to start. the kyle thing makes sense, but so does Jay's refute of it. Looking back at all Kyle has said, I want to believe he is the second indie, not a baddie

I don't know why, but I have such a nagging feeling that we should be trusting jay and not lap.

I'm a little confused (I know you aren't surprised). Did night just end last night (feb 8) or did this 48 hour phase just go by really fast for me? And...if it did end on feb 8th, why are we having a 24 hour day. I mean, I am okay with that, but just curious.

also, thank you nova for explaining as well.

I think you guys are making sense. And I don't see any reason for Jay not to get on board.

@Lap....thank you for the post. I appreciate you laying that out for me. I am going to trust you and vote k[mention]lapluie[/mention]

linki:Yeah, if he were indie, I don't think he would care that much.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:59 am @Elohcin How can Kyle be indie when the second indie (the other one being JJJ) is voting him up ?

what do you mean by "voting him up"? I am confused right now. I thought we decided that Kyle and Jay were the indies. Do you all think Kyle is bad now? I feel like I have lost what is going on in this game ever since the dog competition.

I don't usually do a placeholder vote...but here goes.

lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:18 pm So...elochin. ..why didn't you guys kill anyone this round?

you are so confident in your reads, it's crazy. I don't know why mafia didn't kill last night. Maybe because the last mafia is actually dave?

lapluie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:13 am @Elohcin What're your thoughts on quin & kyle?

lackadaisical quin and indie kyle.

hmmm

I thought nights lasted 23 hours. Poll says 9:57 end time for yesterday.

I don't know. That is why I am here. Shouldn't we have had the host post by now?

I'm on the edge of my seat over here. Do you think mafia will kill jay like he asked?

Wow...that dog is even better than chuck's

I see. well, I called BS on that. Kyle (I think) laid out reasons for why chuck may have outed himself and how it could have gone wrong. I agreed with it. I wasn't surprised.

I'm confused as to why you are all confused. Isn't that who he said he was?

finally...let's see the results so I can sleep
linki.....well, there you have it. so long chucky!

oh...and about you thinking I had something to do with the lynch switch. I wasn't even on line. I had no clue people were voting for me even until the next afternoon. That is proof right there that I didn't do anything to anything to save myself. Lap even looked herself and noticed I hadn't been on the syndicate since before I started getting votes. What happened to good 'ol facts, voting records, and really sniffing people out? Y'a have you I think this and I think that for no reasons. You have, "so-and-so cleared so-and-so and I am going to trust that like it's gospel truth". If civs win this game....it is pure luck and because mafia did a stupid thing.

there are a lot of "I don't thing so-and-so is mafia" and "I think so-and-so is mafia" being thrown around, but there are no reasons added to those thoughts.

so you think Quin and I are bad together?

I sure do. Because I have no way of explaining what happened.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:16 pm

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:05 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:53 pm I'll put my vote on him but this is a bad idea. We should be lynching Elohcin, she's scum though and through

why do you think so?

Mainly the lynch redirect on poor Wigly when you were the one supposed to die.

but I honestly have no clue how that happened. And you are saying I am bad because of one thing that happened that wasn't even in my control?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:53 pm I'll put my vote on him but this is a bad idea. We should be lynching Elohcin, she's scum though and through

why do you think so?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:48 pm

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:29 pm I made up my mind. I'm calling bs on the idea that chuck is somehow unlynchable today. With Kyle's most recent analysis, I thinkbthis is just a mafian plan gone wrong. Chuck is the best choice, imo.

stop making me doubt myself, you're getting really good at it 0:

I don't know what to tell you. It's not me! Y'all have me down as mafia because of POE. Seriously...when people do rainbow lists... I am rarely green. I am usually yellow and often red. People don't normally see me as civ. This is why I don't care for the POE way of finding baddies. I like the old ways where we would try to find evidence of baddie behavior, look at voting records, etc.

I made up my mind. I'm calling bs on the idea that chuck is somehow unlynchable today. With Kyle's most recent analysis, I thinkbthis is just a mafian plan gone wrong. Chuck is the best choice, imo.

lapluie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:50 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:44 pm @lapluie if you think Speedchuck is the better choice for today than I'll do that too. I've been messing around a lot today (and probably abusing my position a little bit) but at the end of the day, I started this game fighting for a civ win, so why not finish it that way?

What're you thinking we do? We could go for both if that's possible

why are you being so wishy washy. You think I am bad. Then you think kyls is bad. kyle says I am bad and you believe him and are ready to lynch me again. This is not good. You need to pick what you want to do.

No matter what...we need a united front as civs. do you think Kyle is the best way to vote today? Even over the quiet players who could be mafia? Do you believe chuck when he says there are only two mafia left? I thought there were three.

linki....is that sarcasm?

I'm just trying to get a grip on everything with this new info. It changes my perspective. If I had the time I would go back and ISO chuck. That would be helpful in seeing who I can maybe trust.

You are right....chuck being mafia does change things. I'm sorry.

I didn't say kyle or jay, because I thought it was obvious they were independents. then again, I thought it was obvious chuck was civ

I don't know who to trust

nova, you, dave, quin (I know we cannot), chuck (but that will probably fail)