The Syndicate

Bullzeye wrote:
You're welcome, we all really enjoyed it. I honestly think most of our failures had nothing to do with you or the way you set up the game. Our first big loss was MP being frozen and then lynched while a bullet bill. If neither of those things had happened we'd have been far better off. Then there was the tied lynch between BWT and myself. If it weren't for that then we'd have won in water world I think (based on presumable numbers) or at least won shortly after. I personally remained optimistic about our chances up until the tied lynch and regularly pointed out ways we could still win. Honestly we could've even had the game right at the end if Elo hadn't come back and SVS had trusted LT.

From the beginning, I thought that among the baddies were Roxy, Rusti, and LT. So, if the game had played out differently, I could have been convinced that Roxy was the last baddie, but LT was already under so much suspicion.

S~V~S wrote:Yay civvies

Sorry I kept getting all paranoid on you Mongoose, you too, Elo. Did you have info? After you died, I realized you were acting like a civ who was trying to make a case on someone they KNEW was bad.

I had no secret info, but I had a deep gut feeling LT was bad by the way she was acting. MP was sticking up for her behavior and telling me I had no clue what I was talking about. When he turned out baddie, I was pretty sure my gut was right all along.

Woop Woop! Sorry LT.

*votes LT* - I know it may seem hasty as I just came back, but even though I was unable to talk, I still kept up with what was going on.

Yee-Haw! I am so glad to be back!

Mongoose wrote:Well, if this helps, I wouldn't have killed BWT if I was Bowser because I think he marginally trusted me more than you do and was leaning more to voting for LT if Bullz flipped baddie, which he did. So it wouldn't make sense for me to kill BWT as Bowser, but it makes a lot more sense for him to die with LT as Bowser.

Linki- YES ELO!

I agree with this. I have thought LT was bad form the get-go if you remember. It was gut then, but after watching the game from my grave, I think you all have good reasons for thinking it now.

I'm tired of being dead

mmm...cheesecake. My daughter and I just shared a cupcake with cream cheese icing. My cream cheese icing tastes a lot like cheesecake. As we were eating it, my daughter said, "Mommy, you're the best caker ever. I mean, caker maker. I mean cake maker." (She's three)

This is the cake I did for Simon's birthday party today

I know this is late coming, but...Blast! When will I ever be trusted? I hate that I'm out so early again. Maybe I will be back

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Elo, it's not that you emphasized being civvie, it's that you led a lynch on Snow Dog given the reason that he seemed to be trying TOO hard to convince everyone was civvie, and then I ironically observed that you seemed to be doing the exact same thing.

I don't understand why you were thinking of me, was it because of the other game? Also, it was Minecraft, not Twin Peaks, and I'll admit to being a huge bowl of fail that game (and I specifically referenced it at least once earlier when talking to S~V~S -- I do NOT want to make mistakes like those again -- I have railroaded enough fellow civvies as civvies for my mafia career).

It's sometimes not that simple. I frankly can't tell LT one way or the other right now, but I do entertain she could be laying low. That being said, I've played games with her for years, and whether she posts a lot or a little... it doesn't exactly correlate to whether she's good or bad. Just because you've had BTSC with someone in one game and they were civvie and then they seem "different" in another it does not necessarily mean they are bad. It could, but there are many factors at play, including IRL, how many games the player is in, if they are hosting any games, etc. etc.

I believe I'm allowed to post

MP, the only thing I said about being civvie (I believe) was after someone in the thread said they thought of me as civvie (don't remember who). And, all I said was that I was glad to be civvie and be seen as civvie. I guess it was minecraft where you had me pegged at baddie when I was civvie, you could be right. You could also be right about LT, but I just get the sense that she is bad. And, if you don't want to make a mistake about my allegience (as you did in minecraft) then you ought to trust me as civ.

I'm getting ready to leave, so I don't have time to figure out which names to post. I won;t throw just any names out because I wouldn't want to silence someone that I think should be able to talk, so I guess I won't write any names. Sorry, Epi.

Oh, and I am voting pipe world.

I give up! I still think LT is bad, but of course I could be wrong. Anything is possible. I don't have confirmation form any source. However, I cannot vote LT today anyway. So, I am going to vote Roxy of course. I want to stay in the game.

Lordy! I post that I am excited that people are not wrongly suspicious of me and it makes you all suspicious of me!!! Apparently I have no clue how to play a civ role.

About LT. She is usually more informed and contributes more. She is intelligent and keeps track of the ins and outs of the game. She knows whats going on and can usually guess why tings are happening and shares those thoughts in posts on the thread. There hasn't been much (if any) of that this game. I find her behavior odd. Perhaps it is just RL taking precedent. But, why jump in last minute to play when the game is already filled anyway and you don't really have time for it?

MovingPictures07 wrote:Elo, here is the post:

Elohcin wrote:Thank you, Hedgeowl, birdwithteeth11, Bullzeye, and thellama73 for the votes/coins. It is nice to be civ and to be seen as civ .

Elohcin wrote:I understand it is always nice to be seen as civ. But, its crazy frustrating when you are civ but thought bad. It is so much more fun to play a game without that frustration.
Very suspicious, IMO. I think for this I am throwing a vote in her direction today. It's not enough alone for me to crusade that she is baddie, but it's something I found notable.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Oh, Elo, I also meant to say I thought your Day 3 arguments against LT were a bit strange. Could you clarify those for me? I do agree she has been quiet, but I haven't seen anything to sway me one way or the other on her yet.

What exactly about my quotes about being civ are suspicious? When I wrote that, I was actually thinking of you:). How ironic that YOU are the only one that finds my post suspicious. I think it was twin peaks mafia where I was civ and you were crazy suspicious of me just because I was talkative and I could do NOTHING to prove to you I was not baddie. So, what exactly is suspicious about me talking about the frustration that comes with being civ but being thought baddie?

I have played with Little Tiger before. I have had BTSC with her in a previous game. She doesn't even seem like the same player at all in this game. That makes me suspicious.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Interesting that we have three people removed from the poll. I do agree there have to be a few factors going around here.

As to Birdo... that sucks. Here's hoping it's not a powerful secret.

So let's go with discussion, shall we? I have to say my eyes are squarely still on Elohcin for reasons I stated earlier, and for the fact that people seem to be ignoring what I pointed out to be a very huge inconsistency (she didn't even address it at all). That being said, Russ is probably my #1 candidate and Bullz is #3, both of which because of my gut interpretation of their intentions (and what I've noted previously), and I do think Russ's vote yesterday was very odd and bandwagony AND Russ's 'giant' claiming (which I believe to be false, and I think Nev was onto something). I do wonder if Lizzy and/or Vomps have been playing us; I also do still wonder about Hedge, but IDK.

I'll definitely be going for either Russ or Elo, just not sure which quite yet. Leaning Russ, but I really want some feedback before I vote. Unfortunately, it'll have to be tonight for me too, unless I wait until the morning.

Hedgeowl wrote:Mushroom walks into a bar and the bartender says, "We don't serve your kind here." The mushroom says, "What's a matter? I'm a fungi! (Badum-ch)

You are indeed Toad.

So this is the role with secrets? Well that is not helpful. Clearly they are good secrets if its the second role the baddies have paid to get. Although just the advantage of having secrets is good too I guess.

Also, I now remember what I kept trying to think of yesterday. PM my number guess to Epi.

What smiley did I really want to use there you ask MP? The banging my head into a brick wall one.
Sorry, I will get to adding more smileys ASAP. I've been way too swamped and haven't gotten to them even though I know I needed to.

I'm sorry MP, what did I do to become a suspect for you? I must not have caught that.

Mongoose wrote:I wish we knew how close Snowy is from being able to buy a 1-Up.

Can we not make our coin amounts public? Host?

Mongoose wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
Mongoose wrote:Yeah, there's definitely multiple factors going on here. Something about Birdo sitting on the player like an egg to hide him/her from the lynch.
Interesting. But why would the villain remove names from the lynch poll? That doesn't make sense to me.

Sorry I have been pretty MIA the past couple of days. My mom, brother, and sister are here visiting while our lovely host and my knight in shining armor is away on business suffering for the cause of the publicly educated. They aren't even feeding him!
Well Baddie A could have removed Baddie B's name, just like Air King could remove Civ C from the list. I think there are probably other ways to get off the poll list that we aren't thinking of.

Okay, so who are we suspicious of from those whose names are removed (Little Tiger, Mongoose, and Vomps)? You all know I have been suspicious of LT form the beginning (Sorry LT, no personal offense). I am not sure about Vomps. And, I have only gotten good vibes from Mongoose. Needless to say, we cannot vote for any of them today, but we can still talk about them.

Mongoose wrote:Yeah, there's definitely multiple factors going on here. Something about Birdo sitting on the player like an egg to hide him/her from the lynch.

Interesting. But why would the villain remove names from the lynch poll? That doesn't make sense to me.

Sorry I have been pretty MIA the past couple of days. My mom, brother, and sister are here visiting while our lovely host and my knight in shining armor is away on business suffering for the cause of the publicly educated. They aren't even feeding him!

Roxy wrote:welcome to the game Lizzy and thanks for the thoughts and i agree you are a very easy target for baddies with your game style so I was happy to hear your suspicions. Not voting you though.

Catching up was quite enlightening. I agree that Mongoose is reaching with no case that I can see with LT and Elohcins quick second vote for LT twitched the hell out of my nose. I am adding my vote to Mongoose b/c currently Mongoose and LT are tied at 2 votes each though I woulld rather have voted Elohcin.

How was my vote quick? I didn't vote until a little before the poll ended.

S~V~S wrote:
Mongoose wrote:If I am lynched, I know some of you guys will look at my voters. I have a strong feeling SVS is Civ.
Thank You. If I am wrong, I am sorry. But both you & Elo made me go "hmmmm", and you lost the coin toss. Do you have an opinion on Elo?

I have had pizza like 3 times in the past week, but had not eaten it inn for months prior. And I made a cheesecake this weekend for my brothers birthday

My opinion? I'm glad I won the coin toss

. And, as I have said before, LT doesn't seem to be playing in the style I've seen from her before when she was a civ. She is usually more knowledgeable of what is going on. I can't see LT being someone who fails to notice that these were 24 hour days. Just doesn't seem right.

And, I will go for Ice World.

Epignosis wrote:I am going out of town for a week, leaving my family behind on account of a teacher's conference for which I shall not be compensated. This is upsetting to me, but I think of the children.

For this reason, posts may be less regular depending on the schedule of the seminars and how shitfaced I get with my fellow English teachers.

Thinking of the children.

Just try not to make a fool of yourself and make it back to us safe.

LittleTiger wrote:RIP Nevinera!

Elohcin wrote:Woop Woop! We solved the mini game! Snow Dog, Hegeowl, and BWT...awesome job!

I'm really at a loss at who to vote for at the moment. I ave my suspicions, but I'm not sure my pings are enough to go on. LT has been very quiet. Can you tell me why I shouldn't vote for you, LT?
I already explained why I seem quiet. As I said before, I really dislike 24hr days as I do not have much time each day to play (had I known it was 24hr days, I wouldn't have signed up), I sleep late, go to bed early and have other interests that I pursue during the few hours I have online. My online time is also limited based on when my husband is around as he doesn't like me being on the computer all the time - this game started on one of those time periods.

I am just now waking up, I will decide who to vote after I have had my coffee and read a few people.

Congrats on solving the mini-game! I haven't even looked at it yet...

I want to be sympathetic and understanding. I agree with you that these 24 hour days go by quick. However, I am still suspicious of you for what seems like odd behavior to me. If you wouldn't have signed up knowing it was a speed game, then I guess you won't be too upset if you get lynched.

*Votes Little Tiger*

Woop Woop! We solved the mini game! Snow Dog, Hegeowl, and BWT...awesome job!

I'm really at a loss at who to vote for at the moment. I ave my suspicions, but I'm not sure my pings are enough to go on. LT has been very quiet. Can you tell me why I shouldn't vote for you, LT?

Sorry. Its just that talking on the internet to each other brings back fond memories. We met on the net, ya' know.

Epignosis wrote:
Elohcin wrote:Shoot, all of that should have been in green
It's okay, I'll help you "edit your posts" in the morning, if you know what I mean.

mornings are good for that

Shoot, all of that should have been in green

EBWOP: I think that should be 'mostly'.

Linki: and like how you love to drink and say foolish things on the internet and I don't.

Hedgeowl wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Sorry- Pizza came.
Toppings? This is clearly a pizza loving group. Don't keep us in suspense man!

Mushrooms and onions today.

I like pretty much everything but sausage, but mostly vegies. Epi loves meat toppings most. We are so different in many ways. Opposites attract.

I understand it is always nice to be seen as civ. But, its crazy frustrating when you are civ but thought bad. It is so much more fun to play a game without that frustration.

Thank you, Hedgeowl, birdwithteeth11, Bullzeye, and thellama73 for the votes/coins. It is nice to be civ and to be seen as civ

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So sorry, Snowy. I really hope you get a good amount of coins and get back in the game soon. I really thought you were trying too hard to look civ. I guess you are just hard to read. I am voting to give you coins as well as gleam. And, I also voted for mongoose and hedgeowl as I believe they are civ.

LT, I almost forgot you were playing. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't remember reading many posts from you which is not your normal playing style. Are you lying low?

I am voting for Snow Dog. His behavior just seems so odd this game, unlike how I've seen him play civ roles before. And, I am voting we go to Air World.

MP, didn't toad tell you to shut up?

haha

I'm pulling a Simon.

Snowy, are you bad? I think you're bad!

And, I'm with Hedgeowl, I think this game is fun!

thellama73 wrote: I will also point out that almost every game I've been in, when a civ is lynched on Day 1, people come after those that voted for the civ, and this results in a second civ being lynched. Come on, people, baddies are smarter than that. If a bandwagon is forming against a civ, they will be sure not to add their vote, content to let others do their dirty work for them. As for me, I will be looking at people who did NOT vote for I Gleamed a Gleam of Days Gone By.

This is very true. With the civs outnumbering the baddies, we are always likely to lynch a civ on the first day. Jumping on the gleam voters will most likely only bring us to lynching another civ. I say we go with llama and look elsewhere.

Snow Dog wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Mongoose wrote:Sooooo. Who likes pizza?
I do! But only if it includes te objectively best pizza topping ever: anchovies.

MP seems excessively defensive for some one who got votes on Day 1, when no one really has any idea what they are doing.

I will also point out that almost every game I've been in, when a civ is lynched on Day 1, people come after those that voted for the civ, and this results in a second civ being lynched. Come on, people, baddies are smarter than that. If a bandwagon is forming against a civ, they will be sure not to add their vote, content to let others do their dirty work for them. As for me, I will be looking at people who did NOT vote for I Gleamed a Gleam of Days Gone By.
I didn't vote for The Gleamster so I guess I'm on your suspect list. What can I say to clear myself?

It seems odd to me that you would come out and ask how you might defend yourself, Snowy, without being specifically asked. I have read over your posts and I am reading civ, but I am wondering if you may be trying TOO hard to act civ. What does anyone else think about this? Do you think Snowy is just playing his civvie part or trying too hard to appear civ even thought he is baddie?

agleaminranks wrote:I'm reminded again of why I was hesitant to re-join this site after pianomafia. I don't know why you all have it in for me, but this group of players, without fail, has never let me live past the first day. Every fucking time.

You can all sit and spin.

So sorry Gleam. I understand how you feel. Don't let it discourage you. Play some mini games and try to come back

Okay, okay!

I give up on the water thing. Haha! Seriously, though...I was nine years old when Super Mario 3 came out. I watched my brother play more than I actually played myself. Watching water world was a lot of fun. All I remember about it was the swimming part and pushing 'up' a million times so you didn't drown.

agleaminranks wrote:I vote we go to the desert world next. Would be the next area we would play chronologically in Mario Bros 3.

I actually think this sounds very logical. It may work in our (civie) favor to go in order. Then again, seeing as this was gleam's idea and I am kind-of suspicious of gleam right now, maybe it will work in favor of the badies if we go in the order of Super Mario 3. I think I know Epi pretty well and I know his take on organization. I think we ought not go in order.
Maybe we are grasping at straws (as someone else said), but gleam did seem awful knowledgeable and confident about the baddie roles. Then, he did vote really early without an explanation (unless I missed it in my read-through).

Because I have nothing else to go on, I will vote for gleam. Also, I will vote we go to Giant World next. I think I remember that one being fun to watch

Day 1! Woo-Hoo!

I think the way the baddie roles will work is interesting. I really hope Epi decides to always show who we are up against.

linki SVS - I voted water because I actually liked the water world in Mario. Also, I grew up in FL, swimming is what we did all the time and I loved it.

Yay Game!

I will vote for water. I love to swim and the water levels on Mario were always so fun.

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