The Syndicate

I guess I am out of here. But I am trying to live. ...voted Wilgy.

DFaraday wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
DFaraday wrote:So how many baddies are left? Minimum two, maximum four, I'd think. Off hand, I'd guess Eloh for Empire and Bubbles for Hutt.
You're wrong about me. Again, please let me know what I can defend against. What is the suspicion on me?
Twice when MP was up for lynching you voted for another popular option, which suggests trying to save MP.

I hate to say it, but all I can say to this is that I really thought MP was giving his civvie game this time. He was calm, cool, and collected all game!

DFaraday wrote:So how many baddies are left? Minimum two, maximum four, I'd think. Off hand, I'd guess Eloh for Empire and Bubbles for Hutt.

You're wrong about me. Again, please let me know what I can defend against. What is the suspicion on me?

DrWilgy wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Episode ( o )( o )

Episode boobies?

I thought boobies were ( . Y . )

Those are some little nipples.

Epignosis wrote:
Episode ( o )( o )

Episode boobies?

Bullzeye wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:TFW you write a post with a lynchee in mind and some asshole ties it up
I know, right? So mean.

did you really think I wouldn't try to save myself?

RIP Bullz. I didn't think you were bad but what's a girl supposed to do?

*fingers crossed*

Matt wrote:Elohcin - I would suggest you make a strong statement and vote Wilgster! That dude is scum fo sho.

Or Mac. I think it's possible he's Zeeby's last Hutt friend!

Thanks for looking out for me. I will try to do so. I am sort-of busy today

but I will try.

DrWilgy wrote:How bout I vote Eloh and spice things up?

The rest of y'all need to turn this lynch around for me b/c you are going to be pissed when you get the results and I am civ. I've not even done anything pingy this game. Usually as a civ, I do/say something that sounds very baddie-like. So, I also usually try not to talk too too much. I will tell my opinions but I stay quiet or semi-quiet. I feel like even if I am not full force with ISOs and rainbow lists, I can at least be an observant player and then say what I think about players. I did that with Zebra, harped on it a bit even, and then like I thought, she was bad. Now, I did think MP was good, but he played really well this game. He kept calm and collected. I would never have guessed he was bad. Anyway....I am going to save my vote until the end of the day of course, but if you have any questions please ask me directly. I will answer them. Anything you need me to defend, let me know, I will. I don't understand all the votes on me, tbh.

MacDougall wrote:So sorsha was not a Hutt then. Sorry sorsha...

Please explain this to me. The Empire killed her. How is it impossible that she was a Hutt?

I'm pulling a Simon and breaking the tie. Bullz may very well be bad, but I guess it is confirmed that Zebra IS bad. So....that is where my vote will go.

Bullzeye wrote:
Matt wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:I just hope your rousing speech doesn't inspire too many people to follow you and the self-confessed baddie down the path of insanity.
Well Elo has your back. What do you think of Elo? Didn't you used to suspect her and then now you don't or something?

Off to work! Good luck town.
Actually I kinda expected her to vote for me. Not sure why. I dunno what I think of her at this point but I did think she was kinda shifty and blendy. At this point I think Faraday is one of the shiftier looking players and would suggest him as the alternative lynch for anyone who wants to save Zebra.

Aren't I always shifty and blendy?

Bullzeye wrote:I actually think today's lynch has the potential to be really useful for the civs. I'm not the way to look - I've yet to hear any kind of real argument for why people should vote for me. People just seem to be in it for the lulz. If you don't want to lynch Zebra for whatever reason, there are still better candidates.

Who in your opinion is a better candidate?

Canucklehead, I think you have found your talent

. I am unsure why there are three votes on Zebra. I thought you all wanted to wait and vote her tomorrow. I am fine with zebra vote although I understand Empire kills and its best to catch one of those. But I will vote zeba if that is who we all agree upon. I don;t see bullz as bad. And someone mentioned that Niju may be indie. That makes a lot of sense to me.

Dom wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
Dom wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:It's certainly not me, I'm civilian.

Elo-- who shoudl I vote for that isn't you and why?
I think it's funny you are asking me when I have not been good this game. But I have an inkling that SD is bad. And I think she is bad b/c since she has replaced, she has been quiet and I think MP distanced from her a bit. I thought Zebra was bad for sometime as well. Then she started acting/posting like a civ. Then she posted things that make me think she knew llama would be NKed. So, I think I could still be right about her being bad. I am all confused tbqh.
So... instead of voting you (which I plan on doing as of now-- MAAAYBE Zebra, but I think there's merit to Mac's argument that we should let her live), who should I vote? Do you have a solid lynch candidate that isn't you?

I think SpaceDaisy.

Dom wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:It's certainly not me, I'm civilian.

Elo-- who shoudl I vote for that isn't you and why?

I think it's funny you are asking me when I have not been good this game. But I have an inkling that SD is bad. And I think she is bad b/c since she has replaced, she has been quiet and I think MP distanced from her a bit. I thought Zebra was bad for sometime as well. Then she started acting/posting like a civ. Then she posted things that make me think she knew llama would be NKed. So, I think I could still be right about her being bad. I am all confused tbqh.

I'm still catching up, but I feel I need to mention....

I am not/was not MP's partner.

a2thezebra wrote:Unless, of course, you are Empire, in which case forgiveness will do you no good.

I've been so off this game. I'm beginning to wonder if Zebra is right. What if both MP and Daisy and Llama are/were bad. I am not good in games where I am civ and there are two baddie teams. When I try to figure out who is bad in this game it's like a tilt-a-whirl in my head. And now I have three pages of posts to read that were written while I was asleep.

DFaraday wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:It was clearly a bad idea to be absent from the thread for so long, I was not at all anticipating that I would nearly be lynched. Sorry guys, I'm transitioning to a new position at my job. It's been stressful, to say the least. I'm glad to have survived. DF you have said I was clearly bad, is this based on me or on Glorfindel, or both?

Mainly Glorfindel. I'm confident he/you are a Hutt, possibly the last Hutt.

What makes you so confident?

Matt wrote:I'm gonna vote DFaraday. Roxy had him and MP pegged as baddies, I think, so either one is cool with me.

Also, going through the thread and noticing about three different rainbow reads where Canuckle is at the very top or second. Sooooo Canuckle is either super good or super bad using force powers?

This isn't the first time you've made a post that shows you really trust Roxy's instincts. Care to share why?

@ Mac, I'm not gonna quote your big post. What do you mean I'm not part of the shell game? And what do you mean I'm a patsy? I don't know either of those references.

Wow, I'm shocked that MP was bad. I really thought he was good this game. I'm very horrible at discerning who is good and who is bad.

DFaraday wrote:I would probably vote Zebra if I didn't have to hold onto my vote for self-preservation (and if Zebra were on the poll). I think Canuck's case was excellent. GlorfinDaisy is right up there though.

Derp, Zebra isn't even on the poll, Llama! I guess I am voting Daisy today.

Canucklehead wrote:This game has devolved into nonsense, I see. Are there any sane people left?

me!

I will vote for Zebra again or SD

I hate lynch manipulations.

thellama73 wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
thellama73 wrote:The thread monopolization
(or at least domination)
by MacDougal and Golden
doesn't my gameplay embolden.
It's tedious and boring.
It leaves me just snoring.
Zebra's the one I'd rather lynch.
I'd say he's mafia, it's a cinch.
Follow me, all!
We'll have a ball.
Zebra is destined to fall.
He's mafia? Who's he? Who are you referring to? I didn't get any elaboration about your Blooper read or your Golden read when you weren't restricted to poetry, and only the vaguest of reasons why I was supposed to be bad when I asked you earlier. How do you expect people to follow you on any of your baddie reads when there's no reasoning behind them? And this suspicion of MP seems to be new. I don't recall you indicating you thought he was bad here. Is this a new thing or are you jumping on the easiest bandwagon at the moment?
Hey zebra, learn to read
You stripey half-steed
You're no match for a llama
who thinks that yo mama's
so dumb that she thinks
that that fool Jar Jar Binks
is the only part of the Phantom Menace that don't stink.

Why so defensive?
You're supposed to be pensive
and figure out bad guys
who make all the civs die.
Instead your aggression
leaves a bad impression
that begs the confession of your sins.
Llama's playin' to win.

This is just too good and with my previous suspicion of Zebra, I am sticking with a vote for her.

Yay, no kill!

I'll gladly PULL.

I voted Roxy. I am sure you all know why.

Matt wrote:
Notes thus far - Enrique seems to be pushing a Russ lynch a lot. Elohcin defended both Bass and Enrique, at one point called Enrique's post "very genuine".

I did, you are correct. I had info which made me think that it would be less likely for either of them to be bad. Maybe less likely, but....it was still likely. Obviously.

I am not totally caught up. I worked all day today and then went out with friends this evening. I'm exhausted and am going to bed. But tomorrow is another day and I will catch up then.

I'm pink again.

Roxy wrote:
Elohcin wrote:Roxy, I might have underlined your name at that time, but I actually waited to vote. If the voting was time-stamped you would be able to see that it is true.

Sorry I had no iodea bc you only just mention it now that I bring it up. I am not sure I believe it though. Bc you said you waited for a response before you voted when I showed that you didn't you suddenly say you waited to vote after you said you were voting.
Right, I waited for a response before I actually voted in the poll. I said it then and I said it again when you brought it up most recently.
All the other things you say are "odd behavior" don;t have any merit. It is not odd to go from not suspecting someone to suspecting someone. It happens EVERY day in Mafia. You say I make accusations that aren't true. I guess you are referring to me saying that your posts sounds angry when you say you were insulted. That is my OPINION.

In YOUR opinion they have no merit. The accusation that was not true is not anything about me being insulted it was about you saying you waited for a response from me BEFORE you voted - which I have shown is simply untrue. So not that you insulted me- got it? It was bc you said you waited for a response from me when you did not.

You SOUNDED angry to me. Lastly, you say I ignored you responses to why you thought others were suspicious. That is simply not true as I gave my thoughts on them. That is anything but ignoring. I don't think you have anything on me whatsoever. I will be disregarding your posts unless you can come up with something new. I cannot say your name in Mafia anymore without you flying off the handle (IMO) and it's getting old.
Your tone in your posts read angry IMO.

How can I sound angry? Can you hear me when I post? I have repeated said I am not/was not angry. I was insulted at the post you said I pulled my suspicions from "shit out of my butt".
Insulted does NOT equal anger. And you repeatedly saying i was angry does not make it true.

I never said you WERE angry. You can read through my posts again. I always said you sounded that way, meaning that it was my opinion of your tone. I would never presume to tell someone how they feel.

What do you mean I fly off the handle when you say my name in mafia? Am I not supposed to reposnd to weird votes on me? Am I not supposed to respond to false accusations? No false accusations. Just stated my opinion of your posts.I thought this was point of the game. I am sorry if I hurt your feelings. No hurt feelings whatsoever.You act this happens all the time when this is only the second time we have gone head to head in a game and its old already? Why is it not old when you go head to head with others? Your head to head is a bit different than others. To me, your tone is defensive and irrational when I find you suspicious and mention it. Only one other person has acted that way and it was MP and it was only one time.Why only me? Why do you assume I am angry when I am not?I assume you are angry because your tone reads that way to me.

Disregarding posts in mafia is not a very civ like mentality imo.

You keep wanting to talk about the same 'ol stuff that I believe I've shut down. Do you really think I am bad or do you just want to argue? I don't feel like this back and forth is getting us anywhere in the baddie-hunting department. I thought your posts had a tone of over-defensiveness and anger. You say you were only irritated. Okay. Let's move on.

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Great job Simon voters

I cannot believe I missed the vote. I was waiting to vote in the end so I could help save Simon but I got caught up in my show and forgot to look at the time

Not that I could have helped anyway.

Roxy, I might have underlined your name at that time, but I actually waited to vote. If the voting was time-stamped you would be able to see that it is true. All the other things you say are "odd behavior" don;t have any merit. It is not odd to go from not suspecting someone to suspecting someone. It happens EVERY day in Mafia. You say I make accusations that aren't true. I guess you are referring to me saying that your posts sounds angry when you say you were insulted. That is my OPINION. You SOUNDED angry to me. Lastly, you say I ignored you responses to why you thought others were suspicious. That is simply not true as I gave my thoughts on them. That is anything but ignoring. I don't think you have anything on me whatsoever. I will be disregarding your posts unless you can come up with something new. I cannot say your name in Mafia anymore without you flying off the handle (IMO) and it's getting old.

Linki MP: I'm going to double check, but I don;t think I ever said anything about zebra being manipulative, only quiet. I do remember someone else saying she was being manipulative though

limki MP, again: What are your thoughts on Roxy?

Canucklehead wrote:Elochin: you know Simon better than any of us. How would you characterize his baddie game? What about his civ game? How would you describe the way he's playing here??

Simon has been given less help this time around and he's taken it more into his own hands. He's been using his own tablet instead of one of our computers. He's been posting on his own. I think Simon is civ b/c his behavior doesn't seem directed at all. If he had BTSC, I doubt he would be breaking ties for the fun of it.

My response in pink.

Roxy wrote:Elo care to respond to the points I made against you? And also to my questions since you have ignored them since the last lynch?

Roxy wrote:I just quick read Elo's posts. odd things:

She has never mentioned me as a suspicion before.
So what? You sll of a sudden starting sounding suspicious to me.
She did not bother to wait for a response before voting.
not true. you responded with overdefensiveness and anger. That is when I voted.
She makes accusations that are simply not true.
Show me.
She ignored my answers to people wanting to know why I was suspiciousof them.
I did not. I said they were unreasonable.

Cfd ELO HAHAHA

Roxy wrote:Why do you think my response is angry? Why not insulted? bc that is what it was.

My opinion was that it sounded like you were angry. I believe others agreed with me. SO I am not the only one that thought you came off that way.

You said "lack of voting" impling more than one.
I don't believe "lack of voting" implies more than one. It means that at some point you didn't vote. I mentioned this because you were getting all over someone else's case for not voting when you had missed a vote yourself.

Why not wait for a response? Why not respond to the odd things I pointed out about you?
Again, I did wait for your response. And what odd behavior? Please share examples as I have no idea what you are referring to

Linky

PULL (again)

EH! Llama is back!

PULL

Glorfindel wrote:
Elohcin wrote:PULL
You were very kind to me earlier... best of luck

Thanks babe!

I still think Roxy and Zebra could both be bad. Zebra is quieter than her civ self imo. Roxy is over defensive. But I do think, like sig said, that team Empire is mostly inactive. But we have to go after those we have something on before we go after inactives b/c there are so many, most of civ, I'm sure. It's hard.

sig wrote:Well I was wondering why you weren't talking. This further proves my theory that MIA people are our mafia. I am thinking the Empire team is the more inactive team at this time.

I agree with you. But it stinks b/c there are so many non-participants and we cannot just sit here and pluck them off one by one hoping they are mafia. We will surely lose that way. My suspicions have been wrong all game, I feel useless.

Black Rock wrote:
Elohcin wrote:I'm shocked. I really thought Enri was good. I am really off this game.
Are you?

Yes. I am. I really did think Enri seemed genuine. I thought he was good. I thought he would flip civ and clear Simon too. I still think Simon is civ though.

I'm shocked. I really thought Enri was good. I am really off this game.

Roxy wrote:Also fyi Elo - you may want to check your facts before you post - I HAVE ONLY MISSED ONE VOTE

I know you missed one vote. That is the one I am referring to. And, I sad butt, not ass. I sis say shit though, you are right. B/c your reasons don;t seem like reasons. I guess I could have used the word crap, but just saying you pulled it out of thin air wouldn't have relayed my thoughts well enough. I wanted to emphasize that the IT that you pulled out of thin air was not reasonable to me. Your angry reactions don't help my thoughts on your alignment.

AH...*was ME

I'm DONE!

Okay, so this part want ME.

What thing?

Roxy your list does seem a little willy nilly with no explanations.

shoot, I really messed up the quotes. If anyone is unable to figure it out, I will redo.

sig wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:Yay! I'll catch up as quick as I can but in the meantime if anyone would like to summarise what has gone on so far I'd appreciate it.

Canucklehead wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:
Roxy wrote:The people I think are bad and I will bevoting one of them:

Zebra
DFaraday
Dom
TheFloyd
Canuck
Wiggly
Ninjabloops
dear Roxy,
Could you please explain why I am on that beautiful list?

Much love,
Wiggly
Me too, please.

Roxy wrote:Also MP he is doing that thing again.
What thing?

Roxy your list does seem a little willy nilly with no explanations.
Welcome Bullz even though you tried to lynch me the last game we played together. :P

So I'll give a quick and hopefully unbias summary.
A portion of the players including myself has been suspicious of Enrique for awhile, Enrique claims to be poisoned and we've had alot of back and forth about him. Day 1 we lynched Matt who flipped as Boba Fett a third party. Day 2 the lynch was between Enrique and Bass (I believe) and Bass ended up getting lynched. He flipped Ackbar a civ. Yesterday bcornett24 was lynched and he flipped as Jabba one of the mafia, we are know thinking Enrique/Simon are teammates of bcornett24 which is a reason for the Enrique lynch

The first two phases neither mafia team submitted a kill . After Matt and Bass subbed in the Empire killed which is leading me to believe one of them is a mafia member or another inactive member who picked up on there activity.

Not sure how active I'll be today so I'm voting Enrique know instead of later.

Good summary sig, that was kind of you. I could get behind a Matt lynch. He seems to be taken aback with his new role as he isn't posting. I wonder if he subbed into a baddie team of non-participants.

Roxy wrote:
Canucklehead wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:
Roxy wrote:The people I think are bad and I will bevoting one of them:

Zebra
DFaraday
Dom
TheFloyd
Canuck
Wiggly
Ninjabloops
dear Roxy,
Could you please explain why I am on that beautiful list?

Much love,
Wiggly
Me too, please.
Very simply its your lack of voting which equals follow through in my book. The only vote you made in this game is for Cloud City.

Linky dang give me a minute I needed coffee., nervous?

What about your lack of voting?

Roxy wrote:Simon is also on my list bc one minute he is following my vote the next he is suspicious of me.

goodness, none of your reason seem civ-like to me. Just b/c someone votes that same way as you doesn't mean they think you are civ. You seem to be pulling shit out of your butt

I can't decide if I should vote for you or for Matt. I think I am going to go ahead and vote Roxy. Its too much for me to ignore.

And what is CFD?

Glorfindel wrote:
sig wrote:Glorfindel what do you think of Enrique/Simon who do you plan to vote for?
To be quite frank, my friend - I'd not really considered voting for either of them... I remain unconvinced of the case against Enrique and from what I've read of his posts, I really can't see him being Mafia (this should not be news to you as I'm certain I've said this before). As for Simon, I'd agree that the behaviour you describe could be interpreted as suspicious. Mind you, it would look a damn sight MORE suspicious had it occurred later in the game and that's where I think I am right now - do you REALLY think that he would've done that (were he Mafia) knowing how suspicious it would look (my apologies for the WIFOM there )? I also read something about Simon being eight years old - Glorfindel of Rivendell, One of the mighty Firstborn doesn't lynch eight year olds...

And let me return to my earlier nominee Russtfinko, whom many of you considered suspicious earlier in the game...
Russtifinko wrote:I do plan to be fully involved after the thanksgiving break. Sorry once again
This was his second to last post. Isn't Thanksgiving well and truly over days ago and where is he?

I am in no way defending Russ. I need to reread him to see where I stand with him, however, Thanksgiving break would most likely mean Thursday-Sunday. If he traveled for Thanksgiving, it is likely he stayed with family until today and then is traveling back to wherever he came from.

Glorfindel wrote:
Elohcin wrote:I have not really been present much for the past 48 hours as I have been preparing for my daughter's birthday party. YES, I spend a lot of time and effort for my children's parties. No, I don;t care that it makes me a little insane Epi. You still got yours . ANYWAY! I am pretty much back and see that most others have been absent as well. Even those who have replaced in seem to be awol. Matt F, where are you? Who else was it that replaced in? FWIW I think the odds of Enri being bad are slim. I am going to spent some time looking at people tomorrow. I have to sleep, then go to church, work out (I've neglected that too with birthday celebration craziness), and then I can focus on Mafia. TTFN.
Mafia games aside, you sound like such a lovely person - I'm genuinely very pleased to make your aquaintance

Aren't you sweet

I'm pleased to meet you too! I love Mafia not just for the game, but I love to get to know people

Too bad I don't have much time for things like the interrogation room and what not. I try to pop into the speakeasy at least once or twice a month, but its not enough imo.

sig wrote:Glorfidndel what do you think of Enrique/Simon who do you plan to vote for?

Why are we looking at Simon?

I have not really been present much for the past 48 hours as I have been preparing for my daughter's birthday party. YES, I spend a lot of time and effort for my children's parties. No, I don;t care that it makes me a little insane Epi. You still got yours

. ANYWAY! I am pretty much back and see that most others have been absent as well. Even those who have replaced in seem to be awol. Matt F, where are you? Who else was it that replaced in? FWIW I think the odds of Enri being bad are slim. I am going to spent some time looking at people tomorrow. I have to sleep, then go to church, work out (I've neglected that too with birthday celebration craziness), and then I can focus on Mafia. TTFN.

First of all, Happy Thanksgiving Americans! Those of you not in America, what special holidays do you celbrate that are specific to your country?

Second, Why do I keep moving down one space each time you post a rainbow list MP? What do you have against me, huh?

Third, I really wish I knew what we were voting for in the poll. But ah well.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Sorsha wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
Sorsha wrote:
Golden wrote:Paranoid theory: Enrique and simon are team hutt. Go!
I think Simon and eloh are on the same team, not sure how that would fit with your theory.

First five people to vote for me get a vote back, if they want it.
Okay why do you think Simon and Eloh are on the same team?
Because I don't think an 8 year old has the capacity to play a game like this solo.
One could argue he's just following his mother's vote.

Still, this is the first time it's happened, as in he voted his own way on Days 1 and 2.

Simon usually would get a lot of help from Epi or I when playing mafia. However, before this game I taught him how to post/vote on his own using his tablet. I know he doesn't read everything in the thread but he is given an unbiased rundown and then makes his own decisions.

I don't feel like zebra is playing her civ game. I don't really have any elaboration to make. I don't feel like her vote for bass was genuine and he turned out to be civ.

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