The Syndicate

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:10 pm

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:57 pm @Otto Mann Where your vote? Who's on your chopping list

CBG most likely. It's the disingenuous nature of his posts.
Just fluff and glib commentary.
Drops reads without justification.

Aiming for twtbw is crap. I don't like his style.

Lisa Simpson wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 5:27 pm

Comic Book Guy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:11 pm [VOTE: Mr. Burns] aubergine

Burns and all the Simpsons sans Grampa are most suspicious.

How does it feel that two of the simpsons are voting Burns?

Comic Book Guy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:11 pm [VOTE: Mr. Burns] aubergine

Burns and all the Simpsons sans Grampa are most suspicious.

The Grumple wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:37 pm What is "TR"

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:24 am

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:28 pm @Otto Mann My town pile isn't very strong as far as my certainty of them. Alison is my strongest lean, followed by you. After that it's some reads doing better than null, but by no means strong leans. Lisa, Burns, Grampa, Bart.

Scum leans on Hugh Jass, Homer, & The Grumple right now.

Here is a TR from Krusty for Otto as second TR

What makes Allison your first town read Krusty?

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:43 pm

Spoiler: show

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:12 pm

Spoiler: show

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:54 am Finally caught up! I'm feeling things, feeling a lot of things but I'm having trouble trying to put them into words lol. It was also pretty difficult internalizing information, felt like reading posts from new players everywhere and the lack of familiarity with avys I guess you get lost sometimes and don't even remember who said what.

I think my strongest town reads would be Marge, Otto and Alison. Found myself agreeing with like almost everything Marge saying and that's pretty crazy lol. We have the two same scum reads and like most of her posts comes off as natural and you can see her train of thoughts. They're like open and accessible if that makes any sense, doesn't feel like there is an agenda behind them. I usually find the "lol" and other laughing acronyms as scum tells sometimes when they don't really match the tone and vibe of a player, and they're like using them to sweeten their post and comes off as anxious. Here it feels like she's just having fun, and it kind of gives off a good care free vibe that is townie.

Otto and Alison are the og contributors of the thread. I liked the energy they came in with, and it felt like it came with genuine game solving intent. Didn't really agree all that much with some of Otto's reads but they felt genuine, a lot of progression and reconsiderations which makes me feel like he's trying to figure out people for real and not just putting a show. I particularly liked post 72, I think it's the kind of post that only town does. It's nothing fancy but like scum never make them because they're never solving for real. I don't know if this make any sense lol, it's like the kind of self reflecting and gathering of thoughts that comes from a townie mindset when they're trying to get a feel for the state of the game. Agreed with his Gtumple take, felt also genuine and not like him wanting to get Grumple off his back. I understand it too 'cause you usually can have personal takes on how someone is treating you so you can get reads from it, I'm a no u specialist since I feel like I have good instincts for when scum is pushing me for bullshit reasons lol. Overall have the same thought about Alison, I liked her Gramps take and while I started suspecting him for different and more personal reasons, her take are good. The change of speed of Gramps is particularily telling. I also like her feelings about the state of the game and how its going, feel like genuine town concerns.

Pretty much agree with Marge about Homer. The idgaf attitude her and not tailoring his game to people especially after getting prodded is more likely town than not. Also it actually feels genuine, rather than like a scum trying to sell that fake bravado. He kind of embodies it here lol. The lock town on Mill is absolutely beautiful.

I'm having some trouble with CBG, little bit of a love hate relationship. I kind of read his concise posts as town like, they feel like naked thoughts and right to the point. Also some of the silly one liners he's dished have surprisingly pinged me town lol. He has that same attitude vibe that Homer have, although it's not something that is unfakeable (if that is word). Not sure if I'm dumb but post 417 is town for me lmao. We have Mill about to get eliminated, and it's like a meme-y mafia read on him that I just don't think Mafia ever makes. It's fucking hilarious.

Unlike his parents, I have no fucking clue who Bart is. He's in my townpile though. I guess for the bland reasons that his thoughts are genuine bla bla bla lol. I kind of like the little work he's done when he's been playing the game and contributing. Feels real to me, and while it actually matches other peoples reads especially the scum reads, it kind of comes off as he's coming into them on his own like he's playing the game at his own pace.

Kristy, and Lisa are in my PoE. I haven't really figured them out much and some stuff have pinged me. Also not a lot of things to work with. Krusty gives off a weird disattached vibe, like he's a robot if that makes sense lol. There is like no emotion accompanying his posts and it comes off as if he's not actually trying to figure people out just asking questions. Speaking of questions, I'm not seeing him reach much conclusions and seems like he's just faking contributions through those questions who don't seem most of the time to be stuff that will actually help him figure someone out. More like bland and semantic stuff that I guess help him fake contribution. I think his take on Mill's wall post is the kind of wolfy remark used to shade others. He's like piggy backing off others when they're discussing Mill, and he just pops in to point out something that can be seen as scummy and then nothing further. He dips from there with clean hands. Kind of saw it that way.

Not a big fan of Lisa's little contribution. Feels like she's hunting some easy posts to go off of, and then just share some bland takes. She's kind of using them to appear as if contributing. It's not the lack of reasoning that is off to me, it's more like they seem to be random as hell. There is no train of thoughts or contuinity to them, she's not like quoting different posts about a same discussion trying to give her thoughts about them or add to the discussion. She's more putting her hand into a lot of different discussion to I guess appear more visible, and broaden her reach.

Already talked about Gramps and Burns who are at the bottom of my PoE. Haven't really moved much off of them after catching up completely, although I'd say I'm still mulling over some things I've seen from Gramps. Also the inactives thing could be a culture/playstyle clash, but even then I'm not a big fan of the rest of his contribution. The gear shift that Alison built her case on is something I agree with as well. Scums are more likely to make it when called out, and it kind of shows that whatever vibe or attitude they had prior was fake.

I still fucking hate Mr. Burns with a passion. I think he was trying to discredit early on Alison and Otto with the fear mongering about them potentially power wolfing. It's a cheap way to shade someone while posing it as a an open ended question, "oh I'm just aking myself" "I'm not sure". It sounds so fucking fake, and it's usually the kind of cowardy wolf tactics to shade loud voices. No fucking townie put that thought out there immediately. It's so slimy lol.

I've got more thoughts there, and also more thoughts in general but this is it for this post. It actually fucking sucks to come from behind 'cause I have so many problems trying to put into words everything I want to say lol. I guess that'll serve me missing the whole phase. Hopefully I'll keep being up to date this phase. I initially thought about iso-ing every single player and then sharing my thoughts posts by posts as that'd be easier, but fuck that lmao.

Interesting...has trouble putting thoughts into words, then proceeds to post an absolute novel. Ya, makes sense. Also, not a fan at all of the last minute pop-in at EoD last RD, giving Milhouse a townread on pretty much nothing (cuz' that's what Milhouse had done up to that point....nuthin') right before he gets axed. Super convenient way for a wolf to appear towny.

I like this read. Exactly the kind of thing I've been waiting for from you.

And here is an implied TR from Otto to Krusty.

Question is, how did you expect something from him, except you know who he is? Can you confirm you realised who Krusty is and if yes how confident are you? (no need to share the info, just the level of confidence}

What i dislike and it may put lower Krusty in my reads to null is the shade for Milhouse who was not the wolfiest player and a GTH would sqeeze from my brain a not guilty answer.

About Hugh 's reads, that wall needs a little attention in other post.

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:33 am When everyone goes to sleep when i start playing

Breakfast time

The Grumple wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:34 am

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:55 amI like this bit of ogic, Hugh Jass had something similar...it goes along the lines of "not risky enough reads, that's scummy!"

The irony of this post of yours is that Hugh Jass already did it...so I guess your reads ain't all that fresh and original either.

Both you and Hugh are wrong tho...hawt, fresssssssh takes that are avante garde, cutting edge & oh so cosmo is not what makes a player town.

yes but the lack of such can be a sign of a player blending in to avoid ruffling feathers, avoid putting pressure on teammates, putting up a good front of looking like doing work, etc. all the stuff that mafia members do to reach the end of the game. that's why i brought it up. it's not bad to have similar ideas to other players, but to be so thoroughly within the status quo is. i also feel like you skipped over some of my questions and the meat of the post, which i dislike

1. what made you change your opinion of me between day 1 and day 2?
2. can you explain what exactly it was about Hugh Jass long disorganized post bothered you?

The Grumple wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:34 am

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:55 amI like this bit of ogic, Hugh Jass had something similar...it goes along the lines of "not risky enough reads, that's scummy!"

The irony of this post of yours is that Hugh Jass already did it...so I guess your reads ain't all that fresh and original either.

Both you and Hugh are wrong tho...hawt, fresssssssh takes that are avante garde, cutting edge & oh so cosmo is not what makes a player town.

yes but the lack of such can be a sign of a player blending in to avoid ruffling feathers, avoid putting pressure on teammates, putting up a good front of looking like doing work, etc. all the stuff that mafia members do to reach the end of the game. that's why i brought it up. it's not bad to have similar ideas to other players, but to be so thoroughly within the status quo is. i also feel like you skipped over some of my questions and the meat of the post, which i dislike

1. what made you change your opinion of me between day 1 and day 2?
2. can you explain what exactly it was about Hugh Jass long disorganized post bothered you?

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:08 am i am so done with walls

posting only absolute bullshit one-liners from now on*

*terms and conditions apply

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:59 am

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:35 am

The Grumple wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:23 am what do u guys think about mr. burns

I'm really stoned rn so I'm not sure I can explain it properly.
But if Burns is scum I think Allison probably is too.

Pre-flip association reads. Et tu, Otto? Nooo

The Grumple wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:35 pm additional lingo question: what is a naked vote

Mr. Jass gives off medium to stronk town vibes to me

the 5 paragraph post of all those thoughts drips of authenticity. he's either real or he's the kind of player i'll get mad at myself for getting tricked by. my gut says this is the kind of spaghetti that is cooked by a truthful mind.

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:28 pm @Otto Mann My town pile isn't very strong as far as my certainty of them. Alison is my strongest lean, followed by you. After that it's some reads doing better than null, but by no means strong leans. Lisa, Burns, Grampa, Bart.

Scum leans on Hugh Jass, Homer, & The Grumple right now.

this is the point where my post got eaten cus i refreshed the page by mistake. i will have to summarize.

the part where you list me as a suspect seems out of the blue to me. the last time you mentioned me was a post where you were agreeing to a point i made, then nothing. i had not done or said anything between the two instances.

the rest of these reads seem like low hanging fruit. a low hanging fruit salad. homer is not an uncommon suspect. hugh jass is suspected because they posted that they had trouble organizing their thoughts in a post where they organize a lot of thoughts, as well as

townreading otto, alison, lisa, burns and bart are also far from being risky takes.

Comic Book Guy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:35 pm I'm legit town.

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:54 am Finally caught up! I'm feeling things, feeling a lot of things but I'm having trouble trying to put them into words lol. It was also pretty difficult internalizing information, felt like reading posts from new players everywhere and the lack of familiarity with avys I guess you get lost sometimes and don't even remember who said what.

I think my strongest town reads would be Marge, Otto and Alison. Found myself agreeing with like almost everything Marge saying and that's pretty crazy lol. We have the two same scum reads and like most of her posts comes off as natural and you can see her train of thoughts. They're like open and accessible if that makes any sense, doesn't feel like there is an agenda behind them. I usually find the "lol" and other laughing acronyms as scum tells sometimes when they don't really match the tone and vibe of a player, and they're like using them to sweeten their post and comes off as anxious. Here it feels like she's just having fun, and it kind of gives off a good care free vibe that is townie.

Otto and Alison are the og contributors of the thread. I liked the energy they came in with, and it felt like it came with genuine game solving intent. Didn't really agree all that much with some of Otto's reads but they felt genuine, a lot of progression and reconsiderations which makes me feel like he's trying to figure out people for real and not just putting a show. I particularly liked post 72, I think it's the kind of post that only town does. It's nothing fancy but like scum never make them because they're never solving for real. I don't know if this make any sense lol, it's like the kind of self reflecting and gathering of thoughts that comes from a townie mindset when they're trying to get a feel for the state of the game. Agreed with his Gtumple take, felt also genuine and not like him wanting to get Grumple off his back. I understand it too 'cause you usually can have personal takes on how someone is treating you so you can get reads from it, I'm a no u specialist since I feel like I have good instincts for when scum is pushing me for bullshit reasons lol. Overall have the same thought about Alison, I liked her Gramps take and while I started suspecting him for different and more personal reasons, her take are good. The change of speed of Gramps is particularily telling. I also like her feelings about the state of the game and how its going, feel like genuine town concerns.

Pretty much agree with Marge about Homer. The idgaf attitude her and not tailoring his game to people especially after getting prodded is more likely town than not. Also it actually feels genuine, rather than like a scum trying to sell that fake bravado. He kind of embodies it here lol. The lock town on Mill is absolutely beautiful.

I'm having some trouble with CBG, little bit of a love hate relationship. I kind of read his concise posts as town like, they feel like naked thoughts and right to the point. Also some of the silly one liners he's dished have surprisingly pinged me town lol. He has that same attitude vibe that Homer have, although it's not something that is unfakeable (if that is word). Not sure if I'm dumb but post 417 is town for me lmao. We have Mill about to get eliminated, and it's like a meme-y mafia read on him that I just don't think Mafia ever makes. It's fucking hilarious.

Unlike his parents, I have no fucking clue who Bart is. He's in my townpile though. I guess for the bland reasons that his thoughts are genuine bla bla bla lol. I kind of like the little work he's done when he's been playing the game and contributing. Feels real to me, and while it actually matches other peoples reads especially the scum reads, it kind of comes off as he's coming into them on his own like he's playing the game at his own pace.

Kristy, and Lisa are in my PoE. I haven't really figured them out much and some stuff have pinged me. Also not a lot of things to work with. Krusty gives off a weird disattached vibe, like he's a robot if that makes sense lol. There is like no emotion accompanying his posts and it comes off as if he's not actually trying to figure people out just asking questions. Speaking of questions, I'm not seeing him reach much conclusions and seems like he's just faking contributions through those questions who don't seem most of the time to be stuff that will actually help him figure someone out. More like bland and semantic stuff that I guess help him fake contribution. I think his take on Mill's wall post is the kind of wolfy remark used to shade others. He's like piggy backing off others when they're discussing Mill, and he just pops in to point out something that can be seen as scummy and then nothing further. He dips from there with clean hands. Kind of saw it that way.

Not a big fan of Lisa's little contribution. Feels like she's hunting some easy posts to go off of, and then just share some bland takes. She's kind of using them to appear as if contributing. It's not the lack of reasoning that is off to me, it's more like they seem to be random as hell. There is no train of thoughts or contuinity to them, she's not like quoting different posts about a same discussion trying to give her thoughts about them or add to the discussion. She's more putting her hand into a lot of different discussion to I guess appear more visible, and broaden her reach.

Already talked about Gramps and Burns who are at the bottom of my PoE. Haven't really moved much off of them after catching up completely, although I'd say I'm still mulling over some things I've seen from Gramps. Also the inactives thing could be a culture/playstyle clash, but even then I'm not a big fan of the rest of his contribution. The gear shift that Alison built her case on is something I agree with as well. Scums are more likely to make it when called out, and it kind of shows that whatever vibe or attitude they had prior was fake.

I still fucking hate Mr. Burns with a passion. I think he was trying to discredit early on Alison and Otto with the fear mongering about them potentially power wolfing. It's a cheap way to shade someone while posing it as a an open ended question, "oh I'm just aking myself" "I'm not sure". It sounds so fucking fake, and it's usually the kind of cowardy wolf tactics to shade loud voices. No fucking townie put that thought out there immediately. It's so slimy lol.

I've got more thoughts there, and also more thoughts in general but this is it for this post. It actually fucking sucks to come from behind 'cause I have so many problems trying to put into words everything I want to say lol. I guess that'll serve me missing the whole phase. Hopefully I'll keep being up to date this phase. I initially thought about iso-ing every single player and then sharing my thoughts posts by posts as that'd be easier, but fuck that lmao.

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:43 pm @Krusty the Clown
Thoughts on Grandpa -
I was null on him until the attempted derp clear. A couple others have made decent scum cases on him but I haven't spent any time on him yet, so I suppose I'm scum leaning him strictly due to his bunk entrance today.

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:39 pm

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:19 am

Principal Skinner wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:15 am

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:46 am

Principal Skinner wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:45 am

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:20 pm Deets on the track @Principal Skinner

you my good sir did not visit anyone

why would you track otto of all people??

Because I wanted to?

Was there something specific about Otto's game that made you target him?

Why do I feel like you're approaching this game with far less aggression and snarl than I'm used to seeing from you..when you're tp?

Your start wasn't so bad but as soon as I realized who you are I kinda just said well let's see where this goes.

You usually push back against easy town clears on yourself because as tp you're paranoid af and I'm just not seeing it so far.

Turn it up buddy ol pal.

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:07 pm

Lisa Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:45 am

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:09 am

Principal Skinner wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:45 am

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:20 pm Deets on the track @Principal Skinner

you my good sir did not visit anyone

Bruh..

Worst.tracker.ever (sorryCBG)

And I don't believe you. The real tracker can do whatever they want, but.. yeah I just don't believe you're the tracker.

I don't believe you don't believe this.
That is a decent track.

Shots fired. What are your thoughts on Grampa?

Hmmm, in complete disagreement.

Principal Skinner wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:15 am

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:46 am

Principal Skinner wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:45 am

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:20 pm Deets on the track @Principal Skinner

you my good sir did not visit anyone

why would you track otto of all people??

Because I wanted to?

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:18 pm

Milhouse Van Houten wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:52 pm And i think I've figured it out...

Comic Book Guy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:06 pm Worst. Newscast. Ever.

Town

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:17 pm alright, used up all my show lore in the first two posts, let's go

Town

The Grumple wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:27 pm mafia time babiiiieeeeeyyyy

Town

Ned Flanders wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:05 pm Howdiddly-ho syndicatoreenos.

Scum

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:23 pm Whoa man

I never liked comic book dude. He's like evil in a bad way man, I can tell by the mustard on his goatee

Town

Homer Simpson wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:32 pm

Town

Marge Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:06 am

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:17 pm alright, used up all my show lore in the first two posts, let's go

yell at the kids or something

Scum

Lisa Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:39 am Can i go already? I am a real child, i don't own any guns and don't want to look at this poor animal.

Scum

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:22 am Hey everyone

Town

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:22 am Has anyone seen my saxophone? I left it somewhere around here, but then I got distracted by a game of anagrams and can't find it again.

Town

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:58 am Good morning. I see some of us got the party started already. 1st thoughts...Marge has crocodile tears.

Town

Principal Skinner wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:16 pm Egads I got so busy and now my roast is ruined!

Unless.....

Scum

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:31 pm Excellent...Smithers, have the hounds run down these wolves.

Town

for context

this is Milhouse's singular contribution

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:39 pm

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:37 pm [VOTE: COMIC BOOK GUY]

Just so you know...the poll is the official vote.

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:17 pm

Ned Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:13 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:15 pm Find myself agreeing with Allison and Burns for the most part. I like the Grumple and Krusty, Grandpa seems pretty ok too.
Feeling less sure on Comic dude, but still on the town lean side.
Pretty null on a bunch in there.

Skinner, Flanders, Milhouse take up the bottom three spots with my preference being Skinner Flanders wagons.

Milhouse calling Skinner and Flanders scum is interesting to me and I get it's highly unlikely he's wolf bros with them, but his entrance, lack of content and scum list without due exploration is troubling.

These reads are bad and you should feel bad.

Why?

Ned Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:13 pm

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:12 pm

Ned Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:06 pm I have been pressured to contribute.

Is that the only reason you're contributing? And here I thought it was because you signed up to play.

I have been playing and intend to continue to do so. I've said everything that needs to be said. Burns and Grandpa are suspect to me and have been since I first saw them post. I just don't feel like grandstanding for town cred.

Ned Flanders wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:06 pm I have been pressured to contribute.

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:47 pm

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:06 pm Something about this sentence just doesn't sit well with me...it's borderline TMI. Slankers/lurkers certainly need to be addressed at some point, but RD1 it feels an easy way to push a mislynch.

That's not what TMI means - TMI would be me being correct about my accusation of active lurkers and knowing that they are scum because they are in fact scum.

How do you propose we address slankers who post just enough to avoid being subbed out, but not enough to actually contribute? Because I think the thread is in a pretty chaotic state right now, lots of people are pointing fingers at each other, and that is a perfect atmosphere for mafia to lurk in. Therefore I think mafia are going to be very incentivized to slank out D1, especially when they have the cover of "this is a meme game/I'm just staying in character" to hide behind.

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:39 pm Here's where I'm at right now:

I think Marge is town. I think Burns is town. Grampa's recent posts have made me doubt my scumread on him a bit. I feel like the thread is descending into an orgy of people nitpicking stuff about each other's posts and/or getting super defensive and lashing out when their own posts gets nitpicked. I think there's a decent number of people active lurking, eating popcorn, and watching the town tear each other into shreds.

I am currently more in favor of putting pressure on inactive people to contribute. I do not agree with Burns that Milhouse coming in to post some random read salad without any explanations or serious pushes is a townie entrance. I'm am concerned that Skinner and Hugh are still AWOL. I am also concerned that Ned Flanders has had three posts the entire day, scumread Burns early on, and then dropped a vote on him without any announcement, after Marge pushed Burns. (If you check the poll you will see that Flanders voted Burns after Marge and Homer voted, even though his suspicion on Burns purportedly came long before.) I do not know what Flanders' progression on the game is or why he is drive by voting Burns at a very convenient timing without saying anything.

So those four are my POE. I trust Otto, Marge, Burns, Grumple and Krusty. I am willing to accept Marge + Homer's testimony that they know who Bart is and that his behavior this game strongly indicates that he is town. I started off with an early Lisa townread, but she has since fallen off. So my 5 townreads + tentatively Bart is my townpool for today. Everyone else who isn't directly in the POE or in my townpool is somewhere in the middle.

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:57 pm

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:52 pm

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:51 pm

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:48 pm
You're mischaracterizing what I said. Without any flips, how do you know what's a good read or bad read with no info to go on?

??

I don't understand the argument you're making if it isn't "all reads are equal until proven otherwise." And I'm going to really struggle to accept that position because it completely neuters you outside of mech clears.

Do you disagree that refusing to participate is anti-town?

Refusing to participate is anti-town. I'm just not sure how you know whether or not a player's reads are good or bad at this point

... what

okay

so

you agree with me that refusing to participate is anti-town

Marge takes someone refusing to participate and says it's a good look, Marge town-reads them, i.e. Marge says in this instance that anti-town play is good

What is Marge's read, to you?

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:51 pm

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:48 pm
You're mischaracterizing what I said. Without any flips, how do you know what's a good read or bad read with no info to go on?

??

I don't understand the argument you're making if it isn't "all reads are equal until proven otherwise." And I'm going to really struggle to accept that position because it completely neuters you outside of mech clears.

Do you disagree that refusing to participate is anti-town?

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:22 pm

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:13 pm
Are you implying they're W/W? A bad read may be just that...why do you seem eager to put a player in a scum pile simply cuz' you feel their reads are bad? Also, how do you know their reads are bad? You may not agree with it, but at this stage you shouldn't have any real idea of what a good or bad read is

I haven't called or suggested that Marge is a woof

I say anti-town play is bad

someone goes "anti-town play is good, actually"

third person comes in and says "who are we to decide what is a good or bad read, really" (total nonsense and gives "anti-town play is good" a run for its money)

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:07 pm

Marge Simpson wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:54 am

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:49 am EOD is in less than ten hours and you are reading "no urgency, doing their own thing" as town. Three gifs, two of which are in response to direct pressure, and you're "Looks good to me" about it.

i'm town reading them for not tailoring their posts to satisfy their pushers that demand better content

there's no urgency for them to get the voters off them, they're a lurker, they know what's coming for them if they don't improve. a scum lurker would just start solving in order to appease their voters.

if you disagree with that notion then perhaps you should look to do something more important with your time. I'm not arguing that he's locked town, it's good enough for day 1, the read can change. There's a 75% chance he's a town, your case is "he's doing nothing"

good luck convincing people with that one, pops

pointing out how bad your read is seems like a perfectly good use of time to me

posting nothing or openly being defiant of the most simple of requests and just cruising in the background is either wolf behaviour or anti-town behaviour, and neither compel me to nod my head and go "this is good"

I don't get your insistence on turning it into an extreme. Yeah, anyone we pick will probably flip town... that doesn't mean our cases can just toss reason out the window. Homer might not be a wolf, he might just be town being anti-town. Okay cool, got it. Then why is your vote for me based on me asking Burns what issue they were having that took them out of commission for the early stretch? How is "I will not be playing this game despite me signing up and you asking me to participate" a good look that is good enough for D1 but "What problem did you have?" is this illuminating scum tell that must be chopped? The consistency and logic behind your positions simply do not parse, and telling me to go case other people is dismissive deflection.

Marge Simpson wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:41 am

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:36 am explicit anti-town play is a good look?

anti-town play doesn't mean that they are scum

The Grumple wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:47 am

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:18 am

The Grumple wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:33 pm Hello everyone. I ate a single piece of fruit and it healed some of my status conditions and restored 1/4 of my MP.

I feel okay about Otto Mann. I liked his responses to the sticks in his spokes. I am... concerned that through his responses to me he is trying to nudge my perceptions of him, but this may be paranoia. I am not concerned. No further action is needed at this time.

Talk to me more on Comic Book Guy. What is giving people townreads on him.

I agree, it feels like he entered the game, threw some light jokes & a bit of sus, followed with a quick pocket on my entrance, then backed off. Or am I missing something?

is this in reference to Mr Mann or Mr Guy

The Grumple wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:33 pm Hello everyone. I ate a single piece of fruit and it healed some of my status conditions and restored 1/4 of my MP.

I feel okay about Otto Mann. I liked his responses to the sticks in his spokes. I am... concerned that through his responses to me he is trying to nudge my perceptions of him, but this may be paranoia. I am not concerned. No further action is needed at this time.

Talk to me more on Comic Book Guy. What is giving people townreads on him.

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:08 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:06 pm [VOTE: Grampa Simpson] aubergine

Beetlejuice + "why me?" is a wolf.

A vote with no reason and after no pressure seems to be worth a "Why?" to me.

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:11 pm Why were you kinda coasting by and fluffing but suddenly sit up straight and start generating content when someone naked votes you?

Principal Skinner wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:31 pm I see a housewife and a clown are voting a reputable man such as myself. Could I have done something wrong?

No it must be them who’s wrong.

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:18 pm Actually I want to know why Krusty thought Skinner's pop in was wolfy over, like, Homer's or Grumple's.

Principal Skinner wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:16 pm Egads I got so busy and now my roast is ruined!

Unless.....

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:49 am Heyyyyy. Otto might be blotto but Krusty smells like moldy cheese and awkward entrances.
Whoaaaaa

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:37 am

Ned Flanders wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:29 am Grandpa and Grumple can both get it

get it like "killed" get it or get it like "they're kinda sexy" get it?

personally prefer the latter