The Syndicate

You guys just lost the game for the Civs so good job Baddies for leading them Havok, Vision, Spiral. despite me trying to persuade them to see you guys were bad and how you will win this game with the votes! they voted for me and SC anyway. This game was fun for the most part, but frustrating how many people were MIA and not participating since there were 7 of you running the show. When either SC or I go, we will show up Civ and it's going to be too late to win and then the other is going to be NK then they got the rest of the game and win because the Other Civs in this game are too blind to ever listen to anyone, first QS snd now me. I want to call you idiots but it's rude, but I feel like the people playing were smarter than this. Awards to the baddies that just won the game
Votes SC because, ?????

The Vision wrote:

Domino wrote:If Exodus was Gambit, he would have also tried his power to save himself and Sunfire could have had enough votes to go.

How do you know Exodus didn't try to save himself? Gambit doesn't get to know how much his special vote is worth. It's about a 40% chance of being worth 1 or 0. If Exodus was Gambit, it made sense to put his vote on Shadowcat, who accused him with info that clearly, theoretically, in his eyes made her likely bad. He voted her, and had so many votes against him in the end that even if he had gotten lucky with his power, it may not have been enough.

There is nothing about his lynch that can suggest that he wasn't Gambit. And since you insinuated that YOU are Gambit, I'm a little surprised that you don't see this. I would have thought you would understand the mechanics of "your role" a little better.

When did I ever say I was Gambit? I never once stated who I was and if you read all of my posts, I never once claimed any role .

I have work today so this may be the chance i have to post before the vote, but everyone Civ please read and take warning to what may happen to the votes for the Brotherhood if SC or I go today. If they lynched one ofus, we will flip Civ cconfirming what I said about Exodus being Mystique and then the one of us alive will be NK. Please read how i posted it made sense him going instead of Sunfire and making them not have enough votes and either Baddie was going to go. If Exodus was Gambit, he would have also tried his power to save himself and Sunfire could have had enough votes to go. Havok is leading you the way he is saying we are by "two or three brotherhood dominating the thread". This vote is crucial. If he is Magneto like i think, Sunfire has to go so Havok's votes dont go onto me or SC.

Shadowcat probably was silenced geesh. Do you guys not think I can't figure things out? Why not silence her to not have her defend herself today. And to Vision, why would I be magneto? I would give MY votes to two targets and you saying if I got votes "just to be safe vote Sc and Domino with domino 2 less votes" makes NO sense. All the votes on me for that to be true would go to "my target" and I would still have enough to get someone else lynched if your statement were true. You guys are grabbing at straws but I know you, Havok, Spiral, and Sunfire are teammates considering the 4 of you agreeing and pushing me and SC today. I would have been a little more subtle if I were on your team and planned this whole shenanigan out. If you actually took time to read my post and I explained why You and your other brotherhood wouldn't have defended Exodus, you would see that you guys wouldn't have had enough numbers without suspicion with Sunfire being your teammate and one of them having to go. So, you guys chose the lesser of the 2 evils and got rid of Exodus to help keep your facade up of him being "Gambit". One was going to go, and your planned failed and you and your brotherhood are exposed and I'm sticking up for it since SC can't speak.

I also love how you all are posting all after each other to help defend one another and get the attention back on me and SC. And you guys say I would be defending to do that tactic and you're doing it yourselves. Hypocritical.

The Vision wrote:Thinking about the info Shadowcat and Exodus apparently had, I'm pretty confident now that it was something like "one of you who picked this option is bad". The problem was Dazzler, since she was NK'd, her role was unknown. I think Exodus hesitated in going after Shadowcat because he wasn't sure of Dazzler, even though she was targeted by Sabretooth. He didn't want to make a mistake. But Shadowcat was all guns a-blazin, wasn't she? Now, who would be that sure? Only someone who KNEW Sabretooth had indeed meant to target Dazzler could be that sure. And it was only later in the day yesterday when SC tarted admitting that the possibility of Dazzler being bad was a problem in her "case".

I think Shadowcat is bad. I think Domino is bad due to his pulling the same "oops, info, teehee" move and his support for her. But, I think Domino is posting a ton because Magneto likely split off his votes.

Thus, I'd rather a Shadowcat lynch than a Domino lynch. And in case Magneto targeted Shadowcat instead, I'd love to see a lynch where Domino gets about 2 fewer votes than Shadowcat. Then, either way, if either has had their votes split off by Magneto, the other would die.

I think this lynch is pivotal to the entire game, frankly.

Pivotal because I told you the votes how it would go. Why don't you want to vote Sunfire? Scared to loose another teammate Vision? The votes are GIVEN to two players of his choice. So, any votes for Havok your fearless leader will go onto us, that is why you guys are pressing hard to get me or SC the votes and guaranteed out. Because when SC or I flip Civ, we won't have enough votes to stop you guys from running the lynches and making sure all Civs go. Magneto would be screaming lynch me, lynch me which IS what Havok was doing to get the votes onto me and SC whom he targetted.

Havok wrote:

Domino wrote:

Havok wrote:

Banshee wrote:Honestly it was based more on the shadowcat info dump than the domino info dump.

Can you really honestly look back over those two's posts from day 4 and say that between the two Shadowcat looks like the baddie between them? if one of them was guaranteed to be bad and it wasn't exodus, then Shadowcat would have been making an incredibly bold move by doing what she did.

"Appeal to signs" and "Appeal to authority", are both important parts of logical reasoning.

Do you have reason to believe that Exodus' role was definitely as posted?

So, try to forget these bogus "info dumps" for a second. Does the Exodus=Mystique theory still make sense? Does it make sense for the brotherhood to just let Mystique get lynched like they did without doing anything about it? They have 7 votes! They could have very easily led the lynch in another direction with that kind of vote power/influence. If you had 6 other people in the game talking about how they didn't think Exodus was bad, it would have made for a different outcome. And throwing Mystique under the bus doesn't make sense either. What would that have accomplished? Lynching someone that appears civvie doesn't get you any kind of cred which is the entire purpose of throwing a team mate under the bus.

I think we should lynch either Shadowcat or Domino. If that doesn't yield us a baddie, then lynch me. Or lynch me today to put this bogusness to rest that I am doing anything other than trying to help my fellow X-Men to victory.

So that is what I think we should do today. Lynch either me, Shadowcat, or Domino. If a civvie is going to get lynched today, let it be me. I think a lot more clarity would come to the game if I was lynched rather than any other civvie.

Do not vote for Havok this lynch, this completely supports him being Magneto. If he targetted me and SC, which I believe he did last night being even, all his votes will be given to 2 players instead meaning me and SC. Do not let him trick you to voting for him. He's being way to defensive and backed into a corner trying to make sure you guys don't give your votes to a Brotherhood lynch.
Hell yeah they have 7 votes for a Brotherhood, but WHY would they all 7 vote for someone else when all the attention was on Exodus going or Sunfire when those were BOTH part of the brotherhood? There was no one else who would have been able to be lynched with their votes and them not expose themselves. So it was either lose Sunfire, or loose Exodus to pose as Mystique and continue to trick us. That's your thread evidence and logic for them not saving Exodus.

If people can't see through these kind of posts from Domino, I don't know what else to say. I've given my thoughts. Domino can continue to throw wild, baseless accusations at me for the rest of the day. I can handle it.

Can't see that I actually make sense on you being Magneto and for Exodus's lynch to make sense? They need guidance to not let one of the Civs go. If the votes go on Sunfire today and we get her out, we could still have the numbers to stop your team.

You're panicking because it was either get Sunfire out or try to save your team by Exodus using Mystique's power to look like a Civ and I saw right through it. I've caught onto you Havok, and I just stated why you're Magneto. I won't give you my vote so you don't bounce it right back off and onto me because I believe that's exactly what you want asking us to all vote for you, SC, or myself. You're giving yourself away the more you talk and hope your team will swoop in to divert and recover. If they think about what I said, which is what happened for you guys not "saving" Exodus because no matter what, one of your two teammates were going so you went with the one to try to cover your tracks and deceive. It's exactly why you tried to buy enough time to make the votes in your favor for today and Day 6 lynch, and the Night kill. I have you figured out, and I won't budge. But, I will vote urge the votes to all go on Sunfire today to prove I am right when she flips Baddie that my Exodus theory is correct.

Havok wrote:

Banshee wrote:Honestly it was based more on the shadowcat info dump than the domino info dump.

Can you really honestly look back over those two's posts from day 4 and say that between the two Shadowcat looks like the baddie between them? if one of them was guaranteed to be bad and it wasn't exodus, then Shadowcat would have been making an incredibly bold move by doing what she did.

"Appeal to signs" and "Appeal to authority", are both important parts of logical reasoning.

Do you have reason to believe that Exodus' role was definitely as posted?

So, try to forget these bogus "info dumps" for a second. Does the Exodus=Mystique theory still make sense? Does it make sense for the brotherhood to just let Mystique get lynched like they did without doing anything about it? They have 7 votes! They could have very easily led the lynch in another direction with that kind of vote power/influence. If you had 6 other people in the game talking about how they didn't think Exodus was bad, it would have made for a different outcome. And throwing Mystique under the bus doesn't make sense either. What would that have accomplished? Lynching someone that appears civvie doesn't get you any kind of cred which is the entire purpose of throwing a team mate under the bus.

I think we should lynch either Shadowcat or Domino. If that doesn't yield us a baddie, then lynch me. Or lynch me today to put this bogusness to rest that I am doing anything other than trying to help my fellow X-Men to victory.

So that is what I think we should do today. Lynch either me, Shadowcat, or Domino. If a civvie is going to get lynched today, let it be me. I think a lot more clarity would come to the game if I was lynched rather than any other civvie.

Do not vote for Havok this lynch, this completely supports him being Magneto. If he targetted me and SC, which I believe he did last night being even, all his votes will be given to 2 players instead meaning me and SC. Do not let him trick you to voting for him. He's being way to defensive and backed into a corner trying to make sure you guys don't give your votes to a Brotherhood lynch.
Hell yeah they have 7 votes for a Brotherhood, but WHY would they all 7 vote for someone else when all the attention was on Exodus going or Sunfire when those were BOTH part of the brotherhood? There was no one else who would have been able to be lynched with their votes and them not expose themselves. So it was either lose Sunfire, or loose Exodus to pose as Mystique and continue to trick us. That's your thread evidence and logic for them not saving Exodus.

Havok wrote:Well, I think we are finally getting a sense of who the baddies are. lol. When you have 7 members on a baddie team, it makes it a lot easier to back each other up in the thread.

Banshee, could you explain why you are so certain that Exodus was Mystique? It must be based entirely on the "info" that's been dropped while ignoring logic.

You also have a team of 7 where all agree in occurrence against the right idea to make sure the Civs stay in the spotlight. The 6 leftover Brotherhood are going to be as aggressive as they can to make sure that I get lynched for exposing them. If I get lynched, I flip Civ and the rest of you guys would see how Spiral, Havok, and Vision are deceiving you guys. They didn't kill me during last night and tried another Civ to make sure SC and I look crazy and are in the spotlight today. Havok, Vision, and Spiral are asking for evidence because they know I can't provide it without giving the information out in the open. It's not public knowledge I know, and I apologized for that. But now that the Civs actually are getting it together, they want to separate us again.
Look at the people going after us: Would a Baddie jump on the train to make sure I look crazy? Ding ding we have a winner chicken dinner! They aren't going to admit I'm right! They are going to flat out make me look like a liar. If the 3 names I mentioned were Civ, they would consider it an option at least, and not even block me out because their lives are depending on these next 2 lynches. You guys DO realize if SC or I die in the lynch, the Civs are going to be NK the next night then they have total control on the lynch the next day, assuming the Indies are helping them, right? If they can't get a Civ out today, they are going to have a tough time keeping the numbers just like Survivor. When I say we need to get this lynch right, I MEAN it. Can the rest of us ban together and seriously make sure they get eliminated before it's too late?

Havok wrote:

Domino wrote:

Havok wrote:

Hawkeye wrote:It seems the baddies only have an odd kill.

My vote doesn't really matter at this point. I guess Avalanche will finally get his wish.

Havok, yes that makes sense. However, we don't really know how Mystique's role works in this game. Maybe she has only a 50% chance of shapeshifting. No idea.There are so many possibilities. For now, we know that Exodus flipped civilian and SC and now Domino are taking huge risks with their claims and info dumping.

What you say is true. We shouldn't assume we know how Mystique's role works, but we should be discussing it since the argument is being made that Exodus was Mystique.

Also, doesn't all this supposed "info dumping" make you feel a little leery? First, Shadowcat supposedly info dumps by saying that Exodus is bad and she knows it. Then, when Exodus is revealed as Gambit, Domino doubles down and pulls another supposed info dump claiming to know for fact that Exodus was not Gambit. The only thing we can infer there is that Domino is not only info dumping but is role claiming Gambit. How else would she know for fact that Exodus was not Gambit? It's very easy to role claim a dead role, and I think that is what is going on here. I seriously do not think that Epignosis would put up with 2 blatant info dumps like this. This all reeks of baddie plotting.

Havok I really took you for a Civ so far this game until the more you press I'm a liar and this and that and SC was wrong to try to save your teammates from dying today. I honestly don't trust that you're a Civ and I know people have tried to say something has been off about you this whole game. I didn't role claim anything, I said I know meaning a variety of things. For example, Prof X could have gained BTSC with me and Gambit and told me Exodus was lying, or possibly I received a message about it based on the previous Domino giving me a clue ? There's possibilities that I am not claiming and info dumping, but I do know he's lying.

You can pull a No U if you want, Domino....that's fine. I'm calling you out because of the things you are saying do not add up. Exodus being Mystique does not make sense. Anyone that looks at the situation seriously (And a civvie) will see that it doesn't make sense for Exodus to be Mystique. The votes do not make sense. You not being able to acknowledge that only further convinces me that you are up to no good.

and LOL about trying to call me bad based on my day 1 question. How would me being Magneto be possible looking at my day 1 question? People have been trying to pin crap on me this entire game and none of it has stuck. You know why? Because I am an X-Man. No one is more of an X-Man than me. Go ahead and get your team mates to use your considerable votes to lynch me. You can't play the "so and so is Mystique" card more than once.

I don't believe these info bombs for one second. Sorry if that frustrates you, but from a logic based reasoning perspective, none of this adds up.

You don't have to believe me, I'm just saying what it is. It doesn't frustrate me, it's that I have been really trying to see that you are Civ and yes people have pinned things on you. I just feel honestly it's a Baddie defense to get votes towards me for calling out the Exodus is Mystique.

Also, has anyone looked back now that I think of it that Havok's questions about the "tie" for the first lynch and everything wasn't for a Cyclops or Wolverine question, but for Magneto? Is it plausibile to say Havok isn't Sentinels, but Magneto? I don't recall us examining that possibility

Havok wrote:

Hawkeye wrote:It seems the baddies only have an odd kill.

My vote doesn't really matter at this point. I guess Avalanche will finally get his wish.

Havok, yes that makes sense. However, we don't really know how Mystique's role works in this game. Maybe she has only a 50% chance of shapeshifting. No idea.There are so many possibilities. For now, we know that Exodus flipped civilian and SC and now Domino are taking huge risks with their claims and info dumping.

What you say is true. We shouldn't assume we know how Mystique's role works, but we should be discussing it since the argument is being made that Exodus was Mystique.

Also, doesn't all this supposed "info dumping" make you feel a little leery? First, Shadowcat supposedly info dumps by saying that Exodus is bad and she knows it. Then, when Exodus is revealed as Gambit, Domino doubles down and pulls another supposed info dump claiming to know for fact that Exodus was not Gambit. The only thing we can infer there is that Domino is not only info dumping but is role claiming Gambit. How else would she know for fact that Exodus was not Gambit? It's very easy to role claim a dead role, and I think that is what is going on here. I seriously do not think that Epignosis would put up with 2 blatant info dumps like this. This all reeks of baddie plotting.

Havok I really took you for a Civ so far this game until the more you press I'm a liar and this and that and SC was wrong to try to save your teammates from dying today. I honestly don't trust that you're a Civ and I know people have tried to say something has been off about you this whole game. I didn't role claim anything, I said I know meaning a variety of things. For example, Prof X could have gained BTSC with me and Gambit and told me Exodus was lying, or possibly I received a message about it based on the previous Domino giving me a clue ? There's possibilities that I am not claiming and info dumping, but I do know he's lying.

Hawkeye wrote: I don't know what to think anymore. Technically this is the second time I pushed for the lynching of a civilian, but now there's more info dumping which seems to suggest that Exodus was indeed bad. What I still don't understand is why he didn't get to the same conclusion about SC if they both had the same info and only attempted a poor NO U to a shitty case. Now from what I understood, Domino and SC are civilian teammates with one other person. Domino, why would you reveal this during the night period and risk having one of you killed?

By teammates, do you mean both Civ? Because everyone here claims to be Civ but some are lying so I don't see what I was revealing saying I trust SC's arguments for Exodus and believe Gambit was not really Exodus.

I just don't see why you think I would have anything to gain mentioning Exodus was Mystique besides helping the Other Civs? If I were bad, I wouldn't draw attention to myself when I haven't really been in the spotlight very much. I know I shouldn't info dump, and I'm sorry. But I do know who he was even if I did come in half way through the game so far. I'm stating what happened in the other game is VERY likely to be able to happen in this same game for Mystique's secret. Look at the character in X Men, she is a shapeshifter. Wouldn't it make sense if lynched, she would pose as any player of her choice to help teammates? SC's case was way too strong for her to be wrong if you needed thread evidence that's public knowledge. If SC were Lynched and also flipped Civ, that could prove Exodus was bad. But I WILL NOT lynch her knowing she is my ally and another Civ. We are not risking loosing more players. If you guys haven't been noticing, the odds of votes are soon going to be in their favor if we don't get our shit together and make sure these next few lynches are all in sync and correct.

Longshot wrote:Obviously if you knew from the thread you would walk us through that.

Just gonna have to trust me that I know he definitely was Mystique. I think we should be looking at Sunfire or Spiral next too.

Longshot wrote:

Domino wrote:

Spiral wrote:Domino, did your BTSC decide to talk about this possibility? Is that how you knew someone else would bring it up/

If I had BTSC with Baddies, you would have seen it too But, who's to say. Prof X didn't tell me? No info dumping unfortunately so when I say things I know, that's it.

What do you mean 'who's to say Prof X didn't tell me'? Prof X doesnt talk to individual players. And when you say you can't infodump but you know something to be true you are info dumping. If it didn't come from the thread you shouldn't be talking about it.

I was being caddy when I said that. And that's why I'm not talking about how I know.

Spiral wrote:Domino, did your BTSC decide to talk about this possibility? Is that how you knew someone else would bring it up/

If I had BTSC with Baddies, you would have seen it too But, who's to say. Prof X didn't tell me? No info dumping unfortunately so when I say things I know, that's it.

Polaris wrote:

Domino wrote:I'm going to be the first to say, I don't buy he was Gambit. I think he was Mystique guys.

Are you sure your partner Shadowcat isn't?

I'm just trying to entertain the possibilities here, and you were very quick to dismiss the fact that we just lynched a 'civ'.

It's based on things I know, and things I think SC was very valid about that I made that statement. She hasn't said anything yet, so I'm thinking there is a possibility she got silenced so we will all turn our eyes to vote her out next. I think the real Gambit is still playing, please don't reveal yourself because that would be dumb, and really believe we got a Baddie this time. I know again, it is a "possibility" and not a proved fact atm but I really do believe Exodus was Mystique. I know the attention is going off Sunfire again, but we need to start looking back in his direction to get another Baddie lynched tomorrow team. It was very wise of him to agree with me so quickly about Mystique to make sure he stays out of the spotlight again after all. I wouldn't expect all Exodus's teammates to have the same approach so some of them could not agree with me and make the attention get back on me or someone else instead of Sunfire again.

Avalanche wrote:

Domino wrote:I would like to win a poll, but i dont think i would receive enough vote. But i volunteer lol

You weren't around to witness my passion for Morlock fighting, so I forgive you, but you should still really vote for me.

Lol alright, I will give you this vote but you can vote me next time. Enjoy the Morloks leadership

I would like to win a poll, but i dont think i would receive enough vote. But i volunteer lol

Sunfire wrote:That makes a lot of sense Domino. Secrets. Mystique. *putting two and two together*

Well I know when I played another mafia game with Mystique, her secret was she could look like another played if lynched. It makes a lot of sense, because I know SC had such a solid case on him and I have no doubt in my mind he's bad. Of course, I know some, not all, of his teammates are going to try to revert my idea and draw the attention to me. But I'm 100% sure because of things and SC's case he has to be lying.

I'm going to be the first to say, I don't buy he was Gambit. I think he was Mystique guys.

Hawkeye wrote:

Mojo wrote:So is shaw going to be the back up to exodus? Not sunfire?

I'm putting my vote on exodus for now because I'm not sure I'll be back before closing. I might be able to check in, just not sure... But the players who were understanding the magneto vote distribution thing could be of some help here I think, making sure the correct amount of votes get distributed where they need to be?

Good point!
On odd Nights, that person will receive the votes of two other selected targets the following Day.

If Magneto chose Exodus as one of the targets from whom to extract the votes, Exodus' votes will go to some very unfortunate individual. So unless SC is setting Exodus up to make sure he receives votes for Magneto to extract, I'm not sure the baddies would have taken into account that Exodus might be targeted for a lynch.

As much as I want to vote Exodus today, you make a good point bringing back up Magneto's power. So, shall we split the votes between Sunfire and Exodus or someone else? I have to vote right this moment because I won't have a break until close to 7, so I'm voting Sunfire in case what Hawkeye says rings true.

EBWOP *by throwing

Exodus wrote:
"Oh look! Another victim...I mean person I could cast blame/doubt towards and try to get lynched!"

OR!!!! I could just be DISCUSSING opinions.
Seriously, how am I going to defend myself when even when I put forward ideas, they are criticized. I would continue defending myself but this is a waste of time and only irritating me. If anyone has any questions they can feel free to ask but I'm done responding to this post. If there's something you actually feel is scummy of me and not just could be scummy, I'll explain it but obviously you're forcing your points and anyone can see that.[/quote]

Kind of like how QS threw out ideas and they were criticized the same way? Karma Baddie McBaddersons.

And yes, you were agreeing QS be lynched the first time during the T Bird incident then brought up near the end how maybe you were wrong and QS shouldn't be voted out. I personally think it was to gain credibility the next day when he would most likely be voted out, and did. The problem I also have with you is you have been playing this while game so sneaky, and to me you're a Rat. You put forth a lot of effort to blend in and let your other minions stay low so they don't end up on the the lynch block. You put forth a lot of talk to gain Civ sides and keep your minions under the radar, until you got exposed by SC investigating. Hopefully you get voted out so we have one Baddie out under our belts and go for your other 6 henchmen next. You guys have done well to get all the attention off yourselves when convienent and onto others. You even tried to on me today, a day earlier than the vote. But why would I have anything to gain? I'd be a bad player exposing 3 of my teammates and myself but throwing your names out there and that would be half of the bad team. You're team is going to scramble to get any Civ they can to get votes not on you, and onto me and other players.
If Shadowcat were bad in my opinion, why would she have done all that research? Couldn't she have easily gone for a simple target such as Havok (who's name gets brought up every lynch) or the clue (Sunfire) as a target for today to make it "an easy kill" for the Baddies? I think her behavior is to be helpful and shed light so we actually get a lynch right for once. Sunfire jumped on the train fast to vote for me to make sure Exodus or himself/herself were alive to see another mutant day. Teammates IMO.
Linki Cable

Shadowcat, I appreciate the insight and post look ups on Exodus. Really helpful info for us to get a lynch right this time

But to answer your question about Phoenix so you don't continue to throw attention back on me for not answering you and avoid you and Sunfire's attention: I felt like I was unsure when I first posted about Phoenix. Phoenix posted back after that and sounded very emotional and used the same line QS did about how "we will loose another Civ if she goes" and I didn't find that genuine. I was on the fence about her, but looking back at when she does actually post, she doesn't give much to me to now say I get Civ Vibes from her, especially the last post I just mentioned. I think the 3 I am looking at that I have a very good feeling are bad now are Sunfire, Phoenix, and Exodus. If you don't agree with me, oh well. But I'm most likely listening to the clue and voting Sunfire out first.

Exodus you're alignment seems to be clear for your Baddie team. Everyone read Professor X's hint and you automatically try to throw the wool on people's eyes to get suspicion off her and onto me. Then, you vote for me followed by your teammate Sunfire. THAT is what I find interesting. If you were Civ I feel like you wouldn't be scrambling, especially this early when votes aren't due and already try to get someone else in the light that is Civ. After all, you campaigned well against QS to make sure attention stayed on him, why not try it on me as well now to save a Teammate of yours?

Havok wrote:I've been pinged by both of Domino's recent back to back posts. The first about phoenix just sounds odd. I think it's pretty obvious that Professor X was talking about Sunfire. Positing that sun actually meant Phoenix comes off as someone trying to get eyes away from Sunfire. Not saying that is what was happening as that would be pretty bold for Domino to be defending a team mate in such as obvious way, but that is how it read to me. And then the 2nd post about where the Sentinel kill came from that didn't even point out the secrets in the role also pinged me. And why would The Sentinels being recruited give them a kill?

I didn't see the Secret part, I saw the voting power for Sentinels. And I also said, maybe someone who recently won a poll may be Sentinels and won a NK possibly? I'm just throwing out ideas just like Phoneix. Just because I suggest a possibility for scenarios, doesn't mean I'm more guilty than someone else. This is a game of deducing after all, and the last time someone had an idea (Quicksilver) you all got pinged and looked at what happened to him.

Havok wrote:agreed. I don't see where the Phoenix idea comes from. I think that if Professor X wanted to call out Phoenix over Sunfire, he wouldn't have used the word sun.

Just a thought. I still think they both are bad and see voting either out today to be a good option.

Also team, how would the Sentinels be able to kill? I looked over their original description and it mentions only voting powers. Is the Sentinels one of the people who has won a recent poll??? They had to have gained a NK some how or been recruited.

Idk if Phoenix is good or not, but I def think the sun thing could be a reference to her as well. Phoenix was formed when the X Men were in space and the spirit of the Phoenix (a fire bird) possessed Jean Grey's body. So, if Prof X was trying to reference a clue, it's either vote. Phoenix or Sunfire out. We have to be cautious though for manipulation and try to get it right this time. We've lost too many civ teammates the past 3 days already

Also, have the Sentinels been recruited now? It said Dazzler was killed by Sabretooth AND Sentinels.

Epignosis wrote:A message from Professor X:

If you stare into the Sun, it will burn out your eyes. Except Cyclops. He would probably be fine.

RIp Dazzler. I had my doubts about her :/ I think this message can be a hidden message to vote for Sunfire. Seems pretty correct to me.

Alright, well wow RIP Quicksilver first of all. What I think happened now that it has been revealed that he was Psylocke, that the attack was probably a last resort to help the other X-Men and he knew he was going pretty soon. I very much doubt Scarlet Witch was the real target, because I didn't see much of a reason he would kill her when she defended him near the end of the Day 2 lynch and voted in favor of saving him. That's a horrible way to repay the favor, so he most likely tried to NK a target that was gunning for him. Anyway, I think either Jubilee mistakingly screwed up the target or Jean Grey by mistake that was gunning he was a Baddie. I don't see where a Baddie could have done it tbh unless I'm missing or misreading.
Moving on, I agree with his points some of those voters trying to save him last minute were Baddie. But I still have an easy feeling about the group. I think the Phoenix lynch could be a connection to Baddies trying to get her out with QS still front and center as the scapegoat when no one would listen to his defenses. So, I'm not convinced she is bad, but I very much trust Rasputin's guidance at this point and think I will vote him for this poll. He didn't seem bad pushing for a QS lynch and was weighing that people could have even been wrong. A Baddie to me would subtly agree and not try to change an audience's mind. I get Civ vibes .

Catching up everybody then will post my thoughts in just a lil bit

Voted Asteroid M because it sounds the coolest.