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by Rachel Green
Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:18 am
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Topic: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 13
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 13

Anchorete and Bac are cleared out. And Thanks hostladies, it was a fun, interesting and mysterious game~

And in hindsight, Epi, I know you meant nothing bad by it, but at the time I was hopping mad I had been outed (or Anchorete was hopping mad she had been outed) as SVS as people often suspect me for no reason other than that "SVS is a always bad". No harm no foul, and I don't think that had any bearing on suspicion of me further down the road, although it *felt* so angry at the time. I knew it was not Carmen; but I thought it was Queran behind the keyboard, I even said as much to the mod/host, lol, although I also thought you were egging her on.

And I did not steal her powers, so that whole line of thought confuzzled me ha ha ha~

I am gonna miss Bac, he is such a cute l'il pixie :daisy:
by Rachel Green
Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:43 pm
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Topic: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 13
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 13

Rhinfrew Flowingrass wrote:
Grutfud Orangesprite wrote:What do you guys think of the night result?
I can't stand it, I know you planned it

I'm gonna set it straight, this Watergate
by Rachel Green
Mon May 20, 2013 6:25 pm
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Topic: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 13
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Night 6

Ah, forgot it was night, and I could leave the euphemisms behind. Well, best to get in practice :)

And Welcome Lamby 2.0 ( I like calling you Lamby, Lyel ), Good Luck & Hugs, Lamby 1.0
by Rachel Green
Mon May 20, 2013 6:22 pm
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Topic: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 13
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Night 6

Dallon Redwarlock wrote:
Queran Gloomsoul wrote:I plan to, yeah.
You've been pretty sure about him all along. Not convinced personally. I think the arguments you have had are possibly, possibly clouding your judgement. having said that I may reread him to be sure.
This^^

This whole back and forth seems to center on semantics more than anything, I am at this stage viewing it as upstanding citizens infighting. I will, however, peruse their remarks yet again as I quaff a hearty beverage.
by Rachel Green
Sun May 19, 2013 7:19 pm
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Topic: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 13
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Night 6

Yeah, no active night power explains some stuff, it also reinforces my ideas as to whom Finian may have been.
by Rachel Green
Sun May 19, 2013 6:46 pm
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Topic: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 13
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Night 6

There wasn't a night last night, so I think we can talk normally.
by Rachel Green
Sun May 19, 2013 6:36 pm
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Topic: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 13
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Night 6

And I agree, characters drive the story.
by Rachel Green
Sun May 19, 2013 6:34 pm
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Topic: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 13
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Night 6

Is the Elf a civvie? I just looked at the roles, and it has not been updated to show that. So RIPIYWG Finian.
by Rachel Green
Sun May 19, 2013 1:35 pm
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Topic: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 13
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 5

Quote fail fixed :)
Bac Wunderelin wrote:
Rhinfrew Flowingrass wrote: the Kraken King, the Twilight Pixie Rajah, and many others are quite fond of...well...enjoying themselves.
Pixies are well known for being...um...fun loving, yeah that's it :)

Fun Loving :lorab:
by Rachel Green
Sun May 19, 2013 1:33 pm
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Topic: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 13
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 5

Rhinfrew Flowingrass wrote:
Ameerah Frolicstag wrote: the Kraken King, the Twilight Pixie Rajah, and many others are quite fond of...well...enjoying themselves.
Pixies are well known for being...um...fun loving, yeah that's it :)

Fun Loving :lorab:

by Rachel Green
Sat May 18, 2013 10:42 pm
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Topic: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 13
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Views: 64198

Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 5

I think Finian is bad, so I am gonna vote for him now. I have a busy day tomorrow :)
by Rachel Green
Sat May 18, 2013 6:50 pm
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Topic: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 13
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Views: 64198

Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 5

Ameerah Frolicstag wrote:
Bac Wunderelin wrote:OK, I am willing to take that last post in mind, Ameerah.

OK, maybe I am wrong. I will not vote for you today then. Perhaps if more light were shed on this situation, perhaps we could actually see each other for once, and what better time for than than when there is no night.

Tell me, do you have any theories on why there was no night? And what do YOU think of Finian, Queran, Gob, et al?
My best guess as to why we're having back-to-back days is due to a role-related event. With there being so many secrets in this game, that's what I'm thinking.

I feel like Finnian is an enigma. Not voting is really not civvie behavior and coupled with his attitude about the voting, I haven't gotten good vibes. But on the flipside of things, I'd think if he had evil companions, they'd be encouraging him to vote so as to not draw so much attention to himself. Granted, maybe he has no active night power, or maybe there are secrets involved. So yeah, Finnian is a puzzle to me.

Queran has been sharing a lot of similar thoughts to me. So part of me wants to trust her (him?). Then there's Gobnait. The two of them have been at each other's throats since pretty early on. After reading Gobnait's posts on back on Day 3, I was leaning civvie for him. But I'm not sure.

And I know you didn't ask me about Carmen, but I wanted to re-explain my hesitation about her. The reason many chose to give her a pass during the last day phase is because of her supposed role hints. But we don't know for sure that those were role hints. Maybe it was just a coincidence. I still can't let go the fact that she survived the Day 3 lynch and we haven't come up with a civvie explanation for why. That being said, it would royally suck if we lynch her and found out those were real role hints. So yeah...ugh.
I am not a role hint person myself, but some things she said made me waffle somewhat. So like i said, I would rather wait and see if maybe those hints were the real deal.

I personally am leaning towards a vote for Finian.

Thanks for the answer, Ameerah :) This is an interesting voyage we take, and talking it out is better than passing in the night.
by Rachel Green
Sat May 18, 2013 5:36 pm
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Topic: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 13
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 5

Dierdre Wonderbird wrote:
Bac Wunderelin wrote: And I personally think of two nights/no days as a civvie thing, not a baddie thing. I understand the survival/benefit concept, but this would seriously hurt the baddie team by taking away all night powers, especially Rumps word. I think it would be TOO harmful to the baddies for the hosts to use it in this context. I don't see it being a baddie thing, I see it being a civvie thing. Maybe they tried to kill the wrong person the prior night or something like that. I HAVE seen that done before, and it is a powerful thing, a civvie role that TRIES to draw NKs in order to produce this very effect.
Two days/no night is a help to the civs, which is why I suspect it was triggered by something that happened to a bad role. It's a balancing thing. Here, you baddie, you get to protect yourself from death, but the flipside is you lose a night.

People's posts today are going to be very illuminating if we lynch Finnian and he's a baddie. :srsnod:
I have also played games where the baddies tried to kill a specific civvie and that triggered two days, it could be that kind of thing as well. Or perhaps we mean minifrstations of the same thing, not sure. I don;t think they knowingly triggered it, though.

Like I said, i have seen this before, a civvie role that triggers two days on an attempted NK. It allows the civvie to try and draw the NK, doubly benefitting the civs by eliminating a night completely, and also eliminating the death of another civvie.
Rhinfrew Flowingrass wrote:There is a group (yes group, given that the heading is "The Wicked OneS") whose abilities have been secrets. This grim revelation means that I have to reevaluate everything. :WTF:

For now, however, I will astrally project myself into the mind of someone a thousand years from now and blow up a shit ton of robots in hopes that answers come from that.
Yeah, I was afraid of this :(
by Rachel Green
Sat May 18, 2013 10:18 am
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Topic: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 13
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Views: 64198

Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 5

And really, gotta go, bye :)
by Rachel Green
Sat May 18, 2013 10:14 am
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Topic: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 13
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Views: 64198

Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 5

OK, I am willing to take that last post in mind, Ameerah.

OK, maybe I am wrong. I will not vote for you today then. Perhaps if more light were shed on this situation, perhaps we could actually see each other for once, and what better time for than than when there is no night.

Tell me, do you have any theories on why there was no night? And what do YOU think of Finian, Queran, Gob, et al?
by Rachel Green
Sat May 18, 2013 10:06 am
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Topic: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 13
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Views: 64198

Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 5

EBWOP; re this:
I have suspected you ever since you said I did something and said something, and when called on it, you waffled, and produced nothing, as I never said or did what you implied I did.
This thing you did here, when you came into the thread and said that I had been involved in a discussion of whomever, when I wasn't involved in it at all, although I had had words on a totally different topic with Queran (I believe that is who I was allegedly attacking according to you) read exactly like a chatroom synopsis to me.

Ameerah: Whats up?

Evil teammate: Well X,Y,Z & Bac are all buddying up and attacking me over *insert reason here*

Ameerah posts: Hey Bac, you are buddying up to X, Y & Z attacking Evil Teammate over *Inserted reason*!

When the case is, I was not involved in that conversation.

And thats why I suspect you, tbh. Now that I have really thought it out.
by Rachel Green
Sat May 18, 2013 9:58 am
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Topic: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 13
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 5

Ameerah Frolicstag wrote:
Bac Wunderelin wrote:
Mainchin Ironbeast wrote:
Shand Azureye wrote:I apologize for not participating much today; work has been brutal, and I haven't been able to give the game as much time as it deserves. I've read through and enjoyed the eloquent, well-thought out recent posts. Unfortunately, and this could also have to do with my shattered confidence -- I really believed Jorhan would flip bad -- I'm still not getting any strong pings. What also makes my hands a bit shaky as I move it towards the vote button is Bac's idea that there may be another secret baddie team lurking. If this is correct, then our situation looks very bleak indeed, and we most certainly need to choose our target wisely today.

Right now, I'm fairly certain that Gobnait is a townie (else, he's the best baddie I have ever played against), and I'm feeling good about Bac as well. Despite the Jorhan debacle, I still feel uneasy about Queran, but that may just be because of his style. His eloquence and verbosity I appreciate more than anyone else's in the game, and at the same time, it's these same qualities that also make me a bit apprehensive about his agenda. I certainly don't have anything concrete against him though, and while I don't feel comfortable voting for him today, my eyes are ever set on him.
Ameerah Frolicstag wrote:Mainchin - Table switcher. First to propose the idea that there is at least one mafia at each table and that the hosts may have decreed that. Says he will likely randomize Day 1, then ultimately decides to vote for a low poster, Gaerwen. He defends Laine here when Laine began taking heat for his posts and vote Day 1. He has a couple of posts defending Gobnait (maybe buddying up to him??). And I was somewhat bothered by his post here. At the end he says he will try to find some time to read back and form some opinions of his own, but barring that will vote for "the most satisfactory argument from my esteemed fellow creatures." To me this reads like a nice little set-up for being able to place the blame on someone else's case if a civvie gets lynched again.
Thank you for the synopses Ameerah, that helped me a lot. I've my eyes on all the three players you mention (Mainchin, Laine, and Carmen). Of the three, I find Mainchin the most interesting at this point, especially coupled with the point that Rhinfrew brought up earlier. Mainchin voted for Miyuki at a point when Jorhan was all but sure to be lynched. This could be a simple baddie tactic to stay out of trouble, knowing (as only a baddie can know) that the town would come after the Jorhan-voters when, eventually, it would be revealed that Jorhan was good. This is a minor ping, however, and truth be told, I'm almost as lost today as I was on day 1. I do have to vote soon because I don't know if I will be able to get on the internet before the poll closes. I will give it another hour or so, and hopefully a second read will bring something to my attention that I might have missed in my first. Failing that, I'm leaning towards a Mainchin vote today.
I have never ever voted for Myuki! :eye:
I found this while rereading mainchin. I find it interesting. Ameerah and Shand both are kind of (looking at it in retrospect) trying to cast suspicion against Mainchin. I also find it WAAAAAY interesting that Ameerah mentions someone buddying up to Gobnait. Buddying up is not the totally commonest expression, in Mafia. I did a search of it at RM and came up with 66 matches. Second time this game I see someone discussing "buddying up" in relation to Gobnait.

Personally I have no connection to Gobnait, but a few people seem realllly invested in trying to plot connections for him. Shand also specifically says he would like to plot connections for Mainchin, Carmen & Laine based on Ameerahs post. Now, Mainchin was a civvie. My initial suspicion of Laine was based on Jorhan being bad, which he was not. A lot of people, including me, seem to see potential civ credentials in Carmen.

This post is one of theose things that make you go hmmmm, as far as I am concerned.

Today we have a chance to have a lynch free of fear of talking and free of Rumpys manipulation. We really need to talk a lot today, and get our cards and suspicions on the table.
Bac, you are going to be mightily disappointed if you succeed in getting me lynched because I'm not the evil you've convinced yourself I am. Seriously, I'm not, and I think you've seriously tunnel-visioned yourself into thinking otherwise. You are harping on something I said on Day 2 when I was just beginning to get my head into the game. And I will repeat, since then I haven't mentioned suspecting you since.

You also appear to be trying to connect me to Shand and others now.

Shand, give me a hand here. The only way Shand and I could be in cahoots with one another is if we're civvie who happen to have shared an idea or two in the thread.

I'm sorry I suspected you on Day 2, Bac. Clearly I opened a giant can of worms with that. But again, on Day 3, I really began to read the thread and never mentioned suspecting you again. Think about that some.

Yes, I suspected Mainchin somewhat, and Laine too. But in the same post where I made my comments about those two, I also made them about Carmen. And I've been pretty much going after her ever since.
This has zero to do with suspecting me, it has everthing to do with thread association. In my mind, you are clearly associated with specific people. You can try to call it a No U if you like, but it isn't one. I have suspected you ever since you said I did something and said something, and when called on it, you waffled, and produced nothing, as I never said or did what you implied I did. Making things up about people is a baddie thing, and that is how I viewed what you did. I don't care if you suspected me, I care that you made stuff up about me. I would have done the same had I thought you were making something up about anyone, not just me. Like Shand trying to single out one person in a sea of Finian voters. It feels bad to me.

Shand never did anything to me, or even got on my radar in any way, until I reread that post where he quoted you, both trying to get rid of Mainchin who was inexplicably lynched without any votes. :ponder:

Gee whoever lynched Mainchin wanted him dead, huh?

That whole thing has nothing to do with your opinion of me. It's your own words and actions.

Now really, gotta go, family calls :)
by Rachel Green
Sat May 18, 2013 9:47 am
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Topic: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 13
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 5

LOL Carmen, yeah, I mean two days, what is happening now, yeah. ha ha :blush:

And players are individuals, I am sure no baddie team would LIKE that, but I am not sure how they will "allow" or "not allow" anything. I have been on teams with players that showed up just often enough that the host would not replace them, and it was infuriating. It is a point to consider, but I feel that him being one vote apart from Carmen is a statistical dead heat in a game with such vast manipulation, plus he did in fact live clearly the next lynch. Although it could be that they siphoned a few votes off both players, and did away with whomever they wanted for their own reasons, and neither Finian nor Carmen are bad.

:shrug:

Linki: I will read that in a few, making breakfast.
by Rachel Green
Sat May 18, 2013 9:17 am
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Topic: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 13
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 5

Gob, I remember, after reading that post last night of Mainchins, quoting me quoting Ameerah, I recall what led up to it. I thought Ameerah & Queran were in league with Jorhan, but when Jorhan turned up civ it seemed less plausible. I just was a bit perplexed by you wanting my opinion on things when, other than voting for a civvie twice, and surviving a lynch while Japanified, I don't see that I have said much that was any good, lol. I reread my own posts to see to whom I could have been a threat, and removing Jorhan from the picture, I came up blank, with the exception of Ameerah, and the possible Buddy Up Connection. Tenuous perhaps, but it still feels like a BTS thing that leaked into the thread, especially when the people using it are referring to the same people.

And I personally think of two nights/no days as a civvie thing, not a baddie thing. I understand the survival/benefit concept, but this would seriously hurt the baddie team by taking away all night powers, especially Rumps word. I think it would be TOO harmful to the baddies for the hosts to use it in this context. I don't see it being a baddie thing, I see it being a civvie thing. Maybe they tried to kill the wrong person the prior night or something like that. I HAVE seen that done before, and it is a powerful thing, a civvie role that TRIES to draw NKs in order to produce this very effect.

Ameerah, Finian and Queran, I could believe are bad. I am still not sure about Carmen. Like I said, some of the things she said sounded very civ to me (not role hinty stuff); then again, some of the stuff she said also sounded kinda suspicious. Personally I would rather leave her until another night has passed and see if that hint has any value to the person it was (potentially, if it was a hint) aimed at..
by Rachel Green
Fri May 17, 2013 11:52 pm
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Topic: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 13
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Views: 64198

Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 5

EBWOP: especially as it seems to often be in reference to Gobnait, to him buddying up to me or to Bronwen or whoever. It just seems a very odd coincidence, that separate people use that same term to refer to the relations in the thread of a specific person.

Could be straw clutching, or not. It just struck me when I was rereading Mainchins posts :)

Now bed, long family day tomorrow :)
by Rachel Green
Fri May 17, 2013 11:44 pm
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Topic: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 13
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Views: 64198

Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 5

Those are some good points, too. I think the next day period is a good time to throw up those theories and get talking while we aren't restricted by finding euphemisms for "baddie" or "vote" and can have a real discussion and maybe a productive lynch.

Get some focus and direction going maybe.



@Shand. Miyuki & I used it quoting Queran and Ameerah, I believe.

I thought I was rather clear; it seems like a BTS phrase to me that moved into the thread.
by Rachel Green
Fri May 17, 2013 11:25 pm
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Topic: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 13
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Views: 64198

Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 5

My point was the use of that term, Buddying up.
by Rachel Green
Fri May 17, 2013 11:23 pm
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Topic: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 13
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 5

No, I am just reading posts in isolation, and posts that came up in a specific term search.
by Rachel Green
Fri May 17, 2013 11:19 pm
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Topic: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 13
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Views: 64198

Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 2

Bac Wunderelin wrote:
Ameerah Frolicstag wrote:
Bac Wunderelin wrote:Can you give me an example of this buddying up? You & Queran saying it does not make it so.
Well, it was a feeling I got upon catching up on a lot of posts at once. Both you and Gobnait seem to be actively singling out Bronwyn and Queran while other posters are simply saying, "interesting theory!"

Now, I realize it could mean nothing, after all it also seems that Bronwyn and Queran are "buddying up" somewhat.

This could be nothing more than sharing an opinion on the going-ons in the game.

I mentioned it because it was something that I noticed during my read and thought it might be noteworthy.

All I know for sure is right now I trust no one.

I have never quoted or mentioned Bronwen to the best of my knowledge, nor did i do so with Queran until his ginormous post.

You obviously misnoticed :)
And here is the post that made me really suspect Ameerah in the first place, more "buddying up". Maybe it is just me, thinking the repeated use of this phrase by the same people is odd? I searched it on this site too, and got 22 hits, but most of those are quoting the same few posts by Ameerah, and then by Queran.

I dunno, I could be totally wrong tree barking, maybe I should just vote for Ameerah and get it over with, lol. But that "buddying up" sounds like a phrase they have been using in BTS, and it got carried into the thread. I may be right (I may be crazy, it just might be a lunatic you're looking for). Dunno.

It feels right though.

*Awaits Crucifixtion*
by Rachel Green
Fri May 17, 2013 10:45 pm
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Topic: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 13
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Views: 64198

Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 5

Mainchin Ironbeast wrote:
Shand Azureye wrote:I apologize for not participating much today; work has been brutal, and I haven't been able to give the game as much time as it deserves. I've read through and enjoyed the eloquent, well-thought out recent posts. Unfortunately, and this could also have to do with my shattered confidence -- I really believed Jorhan would flip bad -- I'm still not getting any strong pings. What also makes my hands a bit shaky as I move it towards the vote button is Bac's idea that there may be another secret baddie team lurking. If this is correct, then our situation looks very bleak indeed, and we most certainly need to choose our target wisely today.

Right now, I'm fairly certain that Gobnait is a townie (else, he's the best baddie I have ever played against), and I'm feeling good about Bac as well. Despite the Jorhan debacle, I still feel uneasy about Queran, but that may just be because of his style. His eloquence and verbosity I appreciate more than anyone else's in the game, and at the same time, it's these same qualities that also make me a bit apprehensive about his agenda. I certainly don't have anything concrete against him though, and while I don't feel comfortable voting for him today, my eyes are ever set on him.
Ameerah Frolicstag wrote:Mainchin - Table switcher. First to propose the idea that there is at least one mafia at each table and that the hosts may have decreed that. Says he will likely randomize Day 1, then ultimately decides to vote for a low poster, Gaerwen. He defends Laine here when Laine began taking heat for his posts and vote Day 1. He has a couple of posts defending Gobnait (maybe buddying up to him??). And I was somewhat bothered by his post here. At the end he says he will try to find some time to read back and form some opinions of his own, but barring that will vote for "the most satisfactory argument from my esteemed fellow creatures." To me this reads like a nice little set-up for being able to place the blame on someone else's case if a civvie gets lynched again.
Thank you for the synopses Ameerah, that helped me a lot. I've my eyes on all the three players you mention (Mainchin, Laine, and Carmen). Of the three, I find Mainchin the most interesting at this point, especially coupled with the point that Rhinfrew brought up earlier. Mainchin voted for Miyuki at a point when Jorhan was all but sure to be lynched. This could be a simple baddie tactic to stay out of trouble, knowing (as only a baddie can know) that the town would come after the Jorhan-voters when, eventually, it would be revealed that Jorhan was good. This is a minor ping, however, and truth be told, I'm almost as lost today as I was on day 1. I do have to vote soon because I don't know if I will be able to get on the internet before the poll closes. I will give it another hour or so, and hopefully a second read will bring something to my attention that I might have missed in my first. Failing that, I'm leaning towards a Mainchin vote today.
I have never ever voted for Myuki! :eye:
I found this while rereading mainchin. I find it interesting. Ameerah and Shand both are kind of (looking at it in retrospect) trying to cast suspicion against Mainchin. I also find it WAAAAAY interesting that Ameerah mentions someone buddying up to Gobnait. Buddying up is not the totally commonest expression, in Mafia. I did a search of it at RM and came up with 66 matches. Second time this game I see someone discussing "buddying up" in relation to Gobnait.

Personally I have no connection to Gobnait, but a few people seem realllly invested in trying to plot connections for him. Shand also specifically says he would like to plot connections for Mainchin, Carmen & Laine based on Ameerahs post. Now, Mainchin was a civvie. My initial suspicion of Laine was based on Jorhan being bad, which he was not. A lot of people, including me, seem to see potential civ credentials in Carmen.

This post is one of theose things that make you go hmmmm, as far as I am concerned.

Today we have a chance to have a lynch free of fear of talking and free of Rumpys manipulation. We really need to talk a lot today, and get our cards and suspicions on the table.
by Rachel Green
Fri May 17, 2013 8:45 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 13
Replies: 2156
Views: 64198

Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 5

I am curious; Queran keeps trying to implicate me with Gob. Does any one have opinions regarding Queran vs. Gob? TBH, I could see either or both of them being civ, or either or both of them being bad (presuming there are two bad teams), or any combo thereof.

i know this was a biggish topic a few days ago, but it seems to have died down.
by Rachel Green
Fri May 17, 2013 8:42 pm
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Topic: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 13
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Views: 64198

Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 5

OK, maybe I am tenderfooted after the recent attempt on my life, and seeing baddies everywhere.

it just seemed a deflection attempt, and rather a good one, lol.
by Rachel Green
Fri May 17, 2013 8:26 pm
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Topic: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 13
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 5

I gotta say, Shand, that post took you from "no real opinion, it could go either way" all the way up to "Potential Baddie McBaddington". I did not necessarily think the Fane voters were Finians teammates, but now I am going to give then a second look. Trying to put someone else on the defensive becasue you made a questionable vote feels like a really baddie move to me.

Your post did not sound like a response, it sounded like an attack.
by Rachel Green
Fri May 17, 2013 8:13 pm
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 5

Shand Azureye wrote:RIP Mainchin. I don't know if you were aligned with the town, or were operating on your own. I do know that I had great fun playing with you, dear friend, and you will be missed.

I see talk of a push away from Finnian, and as the first non-Finnian voter, I feel it is my duty to reiterate my reasons for voting Fane instead. Given the choice, I'll always vote on odds, rather than gut feeling. The arguments against Finnian and Fane were similar; both were low posters/contributors. Yet, there's a key difference. While Finnian had missed all three lynch polls (and hence his nightly powers), Fane hadn't missed a single one. Finnian, however, had made it to the night polls, meaning he hadn't completely disappeared. So if he was still around, then why wasn't he voting during the day? If he's a baddie, why were his teammates letting him get away with not voting? Does this mean that I think Finnian is one of the town? Hardly, I really have no way of knowing for sure. And yet, all other things being equal (low post count, no substantial contribution to the discussion, etc.) Fane is much more likely to be part of team mafia. Hence my vote to Fane.

I think it was Etain who first brought up the idea of the supposed diversion away from Finnian. Etain, can you please explain why you thought Finnian was a better lynch candidate than Fane (other than gut feeling)? Once again, I'm not saying Finnian is not mafia. He very well could be, or he could be a solo baddie, or any of the secret roles. But given the information we had at the time, why do you think the odds of Finnian being baddie are higher than the odds those of Fane being mafia?
Why are you singling out one Finian voter? I also think Finian is more likely Mafia (and apparently so did most people), and it has more to do with the fact that Fane was not one of the lynch leaders on the day the lynch was switched to me. Lots of other people MAY be Mafia, in fact, many other people ARE Mafia. But we were basing todays discussion on the two people who survived the last lynch. Even if you do not believe that I was switched to, the fact is that either Carmen or Finian was probably saved. lots of people saw reason to give Carmen benefit of the doubt, so that left Finian.

What the hell does that have to do with Fane? The main reason we were looking at Finian was his survival that day.

I am not sure why you are putting one person on the defensive for something lots of other people also did, and something that is in no way proved to be incorrect.
by Rachel Green
Fri May 17, 2013 7:12 pm
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 5

So...then maybe we can have a normal LYNCH where we are PINGED by BADDIES??? And they try to WIFOM their way out of it with RANDOM votes, but they can't do it???

Hells to the yeah :D

And ooooo, visions are awesome :)
by Rachel Green
Fri May 17, 2013 6:58 pm
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 5

Queran Gloomsoul wrote:Well that's what I was asking Bac..
Huh? Not sure what this is referring to can you help a Pixie out and explain? You like explaining, make it a looooong explanation, with lots of multisyllabic words :dance:
by Rachel Green
Fri May 17, 2013 6:57 pm
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 5

Finnian Metalfox wrote:Wasn't I only saved once? I thought Carmen led last lynch. Or am I horribly wrong?
Carmen had more visible votes than you, yes. Does not mean she led. This was discussed.

Does no night mean The Trickster did not get to pick a word? So we might perhaps have a normal lynch?
by Rachel Green
Fri May 17, 2013 6:27 pm
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 5

Also bye Mainchin :(
by Rachel Green
Fri May 17, 2013 6:27 pm
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 5

The same way as last time would be my guess
by Rachel Green
Fri May 17, 2013 4:44 pm
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 4

Queran Gloomsoul wrote:I am increasingly unsurprised that Gob and Bac seem to be more and more operating under the same flag. I suppose the buddying-up is more on Gob's part, but the increasing frequency is starting to become alarming :P

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Actually I kinda thought the same thing myself, my opinion is not all that that he keeps needing it as much as he is saying, ha ha.

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by Rachel Green
Fri May 17, 2013 4:16 pm
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 4

Happy Hour at the Pixie Parlour after toil (buy a thimble of brew, get one free!!) So voting now. I think Finian is more likely the culprit in the near murder of me :noble:

So picking Finian

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by Rachel Green
Fri May 17, 2013 3:53 pm
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I dunno, I kinda feel like even though she thinks I am illogical (and she is not the first to think that) Carmn hasthe plaintive innocent thing going on to some extent imo, so I am leaning that Finian was the person in need of succor, not Carmen.

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by Rachel Green
Fri May 17, 2013 10:16 am
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BUT, based on posts in this game, which is the point of the secret IDs, I think Finian is the likeliest place for my vote today.

@ Rhin yes, I am perusing this competition via mobile device, I meant to quote Gob but forgot, and it is not easy to go back and do so.

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by Rachel Green
Fri May 17, 2013 10:05 am
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During the Jorhan lynch she put words in my mouth and grouped me in with people making a particular argument (I believe the discussion was re your theories, Gob) when I had no part of that discussion. Then when asked to put her money where her mouth was and bring the proof, she couldn't do it, but still implied it was so.

Just slippery IMO

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by Rachel Green
Fri May 17, 2013 7:34 am
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Carmen said a few things which gave me pause, other than the potential role hints, which could be interpreted either way. So I am thinking of a vote for Finian. BUT I also have an inkling about who he might have been in another life...SO...not totally sure. Ameerah still makes my wings tingle (and tingly wings mean DANGER, as if y'all didn't already know that) but I have time.

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by Rachel Green
Thu May 16, 2013 10:58 pm
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 4

And not Mother Hulda either :drums:


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by Rachel Green
Thu May 16, 2013 10:43 pm
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 4

Miyuki, you could be right. I am the suck at this sort of thing. I did think she sounded sincerely plaintive for a few posts soon after the lynch ended. Again, Finian felt more sinister to me, although I will admit I was very leery of Carmen earlier in the game. Tis a quandry for sure.

But if it gives YOU pause, then you should act (or not act) on it.

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by Rachel Green
Thu May 16, 2013 10:25 pm
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 4

I do not, I think mentioning a Glass Slipper when it was a poll choice in a game about Fairy Tales is a not all that astonishing happenstance, tbh. It is possible, but I do not believe it is conclusive either way.

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by Rachel Green
Thu May 16, 2013 10:18 pm
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Ha ha, I saw two totally different hints, she mentioned children, I thought Miyuki meant Mother Hulda.

I don't look for role hints, and feel they are too easy to misinterpret, obviously. :haha:

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by Rachel Green
Thu May 16, 2013 10:14 pm
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 4

OK, having reread Carmen (and Shand makes good points about Rumpys team and how easy manipulation would really be for them) I think I saw where Miyuki thinks she saw hints. I don't think they were hints though, I think they were just remarks about RL.

Just because someone mentions a very common everyday function that is also held by one of the roles doesn't make it a hint. Carmen did say something later that gave me pause though. I might feel better looking at Finian.

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by Rachel Green
Thu May 16, 2013 9:51 pm
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Well, Finnian had 5, perhaps he was the real person to be executed, this would be plausible as well. But I agree, I think it was a straight moving of the death from one person, either Carmen or Finnian, to a third party, me, not a large bloc of single ballots. This is more logical to me. Even more so if it was a thing done by one of the 7 mystery folk.

Wanting to discuss those mystery folk IS really all that I can see that I have done to draw this. So yeah, That is my belief.

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by Rachel Green
Thu May 16, 2013 7:27 pm
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 1

Bac Wunderelin wrote:
Carmen Brightsun wrote:These "random" votes for Jorhan don't sit right with me. Especially this one:
Fane Winebattle wrote:I haven't been feeling well and the names are confusing me lol.
I will randomize my vote and I got Jorhan.
According to the chart, Fane, you are seated at the table of Happiness, and therefore you could not have voted for Jorhan.

This makes me think Jorhan is likely good. And because I'm beginning to trust Shand, I am going to vote for Caillic Lustroushair.
So you think him good based on the behavior of others? What think you of him showing up to make a second post soon after taking a vote for not posting, yet not voting?

The two lottery style votes made me nervous as well, but that one post soon after taking a vote really is one of those things that make you go "hmmm".
Yes. Ms Mightyfeet, you are correct :bounce:

It WAS Carmen who pointed this out. I am not a fan of role hints, and never see then anyhow, while the illustrious Lady of the Imps made a good point, this also nags at me; thanks for the reminder :wine:

Maybe that Razor thing applies here, and Carmen it was who was saved, and Carmen it was whom I offended?

Simulpost with Ameerah. I shall do so :)

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by Rachel Green
Thu May 16, 2013 7:20 pm
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Re: Grimm's Fairy Tale Mafia - Day 4

I don't recall who it was, I have to go back and reread my own posts, inhaling Pixie Dust is bad kids, just don't do it. It rots your brain :nod:

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