The Syndicate

Paul Stevens

Lipsticklacey 2 wrote:
Dom 2 wrote:
Dom 2 wrote:Hostmuffins! was the mafia's nightkill inherited?
A) it seems you must already have the answer to that. I wrote this before FS actually answered. What I mean is apparently bass 2 never hid behind you, and we've been making a bad assumption.
B) the mafia kill was odd nights, so it's the recruit kill tonight anyways.

No I didn't. I asked the question yesterday, but did not get an answer.

But it's good to know if anyone is doing the killing tonight. Why are you trying to make this out as if I already knew this? Are you trying to frame me now?

Paul Stevens

Dom 2 wrote:Hostmuffins! was the mafia's nightkill inherited?

Paul Stevens

Shitmuffins.

Nothing's worse than making it this far in the game and getting it wrong.

Paul Stevens

To answer the question, you are as fucked up as the hostess Epignosis 2.

Paul Stevens

Epignosis

Paul Stevens

I feel like I'm never around when these mafia trivias happen.

Paul Stevens

Epignosis 2 wrote:As I said I've had a minor ping about lipstick for awhile I just wasn't sure this is the only time we can do this the three of us have to vote for Lipstick today and this will lead us to victory.

That's a convenient statement to fall back on.

Anyway, I need to think on it. Also, I'd like to discuss it with Cookie since she has not voted yet. Lacey makes everything look so clear-cut. She was right about Ricochet though, so she may be on the right track with you.

Also, on a possibly unrelated note, nijuukyugou knows and works with Epignosis in real life, so that makes you a good option for a recruit. :P

Paul Stevens

Like Cobalt and Cookie are on a team?

Paul Stevens

"they got something"?

Paul Stevens

Can you spell it out for me? I don't see it.

Linki: well Cobalt has also dropped other implications that Cookie is not a "protector" or whatever. I don't really understand what Cookie is saying here.

Paul Stevens

Epignosis 2 wrote:Well I have given my defense I've said why I think Lipstick is the last baddie.

Cookie Dom I'm asking you no begging you just one time take this leap of faith and vote for Lipstick with me. IF and this is an if since it isn't true i was the recruit it would go like this 5 people 1 mislynch 1 night kill there would be three people left me and two others you could just lynch me then. BUT believe me when I say this if you lynch me today and when I flip civilian you'd have all lost.

This sounds morbid but this is the final countdown all I ask is one phase two votes which might save me. Vote for lipstick if he flips he will flip as the recruiter. I know this for a fact. Cookie saved Cobalt 2 both who are civs. Dom isn't able to be because of Bass this leaves Myself and Lipstick you all have more to loose if you vote against me, in fact you will loose this game. Though if you just vote with me we could still win this. I'm asking for your trust and just one phase. If lipsticks flip clean you will still win but if I flip clean you won't. Unless I get rezzed after flipping clean. Which I doubt will happen.
So please trust me I'm Epi when have I ever led you wrong
except for when I'm drunk but I'm sober since it is passed my bedtime us old folks need to turn in early after all

Cookie saved Cobalt?

Paul Stevens

Epignosis 2 wrote:Okay Dom I though you had me at the top of your list for who you wanted to lynch.

I don't really know who I want to lynch. I just happen to trust Cobalt and lipsticklacey for various reasons, and have lately been doubting my previous read of Cookie.

Still, everyone deserves a fair shake, and I'm not going to vote for you just because of that.

Paul Stevens

Day 4 vote

Spoiler: show

Day 5 vote

Spoiler: show

Some notes about Epignosis. He voiced suspicion about as early as Day 3 on Elohcin, but he voted for Long Con in a pretty decisive lynch. Also on Day 3, Epignosis said that he doesn't think we should lynch Synonym. On Night 3, he reemphasized this after Long Con lynched mafia.

On Day 4, Epignosis changes his mind and votes for Synonym, actually breaking a 3-3 tie to put Synonym ahead of Elohcin.

On Day 5, Epignosis places the first vote on Elohcin.

Paul Stevens

I'll look over your case, but I also want to look back at your wife's lynch, and players' posts in general.

Paul Stevens

I gave you my current thoughts and my plan.

I never said I wanted to lynch you, just that we have to lynch somebody.

Paul Stevens

Here are the players in order of my current vote preference.

Epignosis
Cookie
Cobalt
Lipsticklacey

Unfortunately, you are located where you are by process of elimination, not because I think you're bad. But somebody needs to be lynched.

I have some more reading I need to do though.

Paul Stevens

Epignosis 2 wrote:Okay this means someone who was afk choice not to kill someone agreed? I will say thisagain read my posts my posting style/ votes haven't changed. Lynching me will be a waste.

No, this means that mafia had the even night kill, as we previously suspected.

Hostmuffins! was the mafia's nightkill inherited?

Epignosis 2 wrote:Dom saved his vote until very near the end.

I was gone for about 4 days. I only just got back Sunday. From what I did read, Ricochet looked like he was flailing yesterday, which was something I didn't sense the day before.

Paul Stevens

Metalmarsh 2 wrote:
Synonym 2 wrote:
Metalmarsh 2 wrote:also i think dom had something to do with the lynch stop

let me clarify
the real dom

Turnip Head 2 wrote:Synonym is more than likely civilian at this point.

I feel like the lipstick/Syn confrontation was civ/civ. I don't see mafia causing a fight that could potentially end in a mod-kill.
why

This doesn't match with "the real Dom's" role at all.

Paul Stevens

Voted Ricochet 2. Sorry I haven't been around much.

I'm mostly caught up, and he seems like the best choice to me.

Paul Stevens

I have to vote. I went with llama. I trust what Ricochet has brought forth on the matter.

Paul Stevens

Lipsticklacey 2 wrote:Dom 2, on a scale of 1-13.7689, how weird did you find Cookie 2's vote for you?

Also, top 2 choices for lynch today? If Cookie 2 is one of the 2, can you please include a third.

I said something about it already, but I didn't like it. Cookie has been hounding me over one comment for days. Then yesterday, she turns around and follows my vote because "weird stuff happened". Then she votes me again today.

The "weird stuff happened" smells incredibly like BTSC to me, in that she never read or responded to the things that happened themselves, but either knew or was told about it behind the scences.

I would give it a solid 11.5

Paul Stevens

Cookie 2 wrote:I am amazed to find myself alive. I have had internet issues for a few days, but barring more awful weather, should be OK now. I will catch up (it appears there were shenanigans? I think I expected to come back to day 7?).

In any case, sorry to the hosts and my fellow players.

I see that both Dom & Cobalt votes Golden, so something interesting must have happened. So did everyone else, so why not? I will vote Golden, too, since based on boos reveal, everything is definitely not as it seems, is it?

I also want to bring this vote-post up again Cookie.

Why did you follow mine and Cobalt's vote if you think that I am bad?

I know that Cobalt suspected me at one point in this game, but I guess he changed his mind one night. Didn't he do the same thing to you?

Also, how do you feel about Cobalt?

Paul Stevens

Cookie 2 wrote:LOL, I keep expect to come in here and find myself dead. I always tend to lose interest when i am a civ and get suspected for silly reasons. So sorry to the hostesses for the skatey-eight millionth time

In any case gonna do the unpopular thing here & vote for Dom. He is lying about the whole "I can't see why someone would think there is an unkillable baddie" thing, and he couldn't have been roleplaying real Dom with that post since I am sure REAL Dom has had that role in his games. So my only conjecture as to why he said that lie was in order to use it as a basis for suspicion of me, whereas if he were a civ, he would have either not mentioned his thoughts on that topic if he suspected me, or he would have agreed with me that it was a possibility. Even if he was roleplaying a non local player, like pretending to be sig or Wilgy, someone not familiar with that role, I still don't think he would have specifically used that point to build suspicion with on me (or anyone, really). I think he was looking for a hook, and he used that. And civvies don't need hooks.

Not that that argument matters anymore, but it is why i am really pretty sure that he is bad. Becasue I can't find a civvie reason for him to say that with my super strong belief about who he is in reality. And I think that I am a pretty good guesser when it comes to that stuff

Voting Dom cause he's bad.

Have you read my explanations about why I think that way? Let me point out the various unkillable baddies I have seen, and the circumstances behind them.

a) A baddie that can't be lynched until all of his teammates have been lynched. I agree that this is particular one is not uncommon, but it is an incredibly powerful role, and one that I do not expect to see in this game because of the fact that roles weren't originally revealed.
b) A baddie that cannot be lynched or nightkilled at all. The disclaimer for this one is that the civilians did not need him dead to win, so his immunity didn't play a major role. The setup doesn't really allow for this role to exist.
c) A baddie who, rather than dying, switches alignment every time he is lynched/killed. This was a stranger implementation of the role, because as mafia, this role did not know who its teammates were, but did get a kill to use on nights he was bad. While his immunity played a big part, his alignment played a bigger part. I highly doubt this type of role is present in this game.

The basis for my suspicion of you has nothing to do with the question you asked me. My suspicion of you came before your suspicion of me (for those keeping score at home), and I think your question was a legitimate one. But you've continued to push the suspicion of me without acknowledging my responses to your question.

I know you know who I am, and I know you know that I know who you are. I like to use logic when I play. It doesn't usually work, but sometimes it's applicable, and logically, there is unlikely an "unlynchable" baddie. Also, I am surprised you still think that I am bad, especially today. I thought it was plainly obvious who I am.

Paul Stevens

Llama 2 wrote:
fingersplints wrote:Being fine is the second. Nothing happens/risky alignment check.

If Bass 2 targetted a recruit he would be killed. The only 'baddie' type role that a hider can successfully hide behind is a seemer... if we even HAVE one of those this game.

If Bass 2 hid behind a seemer, he would be spared as well.

Knowing that this game has had seemers aplenty, it would come as no surprise if one of Bass' earlier targets were a seemer.

Linki @Dom we don't. It's implied from Bass' recent post and sig jumped on that.

I see why sig voted for you then.

I also see that asking you what your thoughts on the matter are might not help. :P

Paul Stevens

There are seemers aplenty?

Paul Stevens

I found the role description.

Also, how do we know that Bass 2 hid behind someone?

Paul Stevens

Ricochet 2 wrote:One of those nights was ended very early, and it was only 6 possibilities. Take out night one (possibly cookie missed) and that leaves you 5... including death night. MM night three, lacey night four, cobalt night five, dom night 6, llama night 8.

Unfortunately, if that is correct I think it also leaves some of the earlier results open to having been recruited afterwards?

All things considered, I keep coming back to Cookie as the best choice for a lynch.

This also leaves out players that are currently dead, but not when he 'hid' behind them.

Can someone explain the hider role? I want to make sure I'm understanding it correctly.

Paul Stevens

Metalmarsh 2 wrote:
Dom 2 wrote:That's kinda a relief.

Still means there are at least 2 baddies out there, and possibly more.
Can you explain your reasoning here?

I'm open to a Cookie, Rey, or Dom vote.

I assumed that Elohcin 2 was an anti-town recruiter.

What do you think?

Paul Stevens

Oh, and there were three modkilled players whose roles we do not know, so let's not forget about them.

Paul Stevens

That's kinda a relief.

Still means there are at least 2 baddies out there, and possibly more.

Paul Stevens

Beautiful hosts: Will we be told if and when a team is eliminated?

Paul Stevens

Bass 2 wrote:I appreciate the distrust. That's not sarcastic, either. It means you're concerned with winning, and that's more than you can say for about half of us right now.

I think it strange that we haven't found any recruits yet, apparently. Elo 2 died on what, the fourth or fifth phase? Purely by statistics we should've found something by now.

How many recruits do you think there are?

Paul Stevens

One day Cookie thinks I'm bad. She posted this on Day 6.

Cookie 2 wrote:I still think Dom is bad, as I said when I placed my vote for boo. But I think we need to do this and move past the issue. We have someone who, rather than accepting whatever it is that was said, chose a different course. Had he come in here and said, "Um well that happened, and it won't happen again. Anything else I have to say about it will be saved for the postgame. Let's get some baddies", I would have already voted for Dom. But he didn't; he chose to drag an unpleasant situation out with that post he made, so that we are still talking about it. And every time he makes another of the posts he said he wasn't going to make, or votes, we will bring it up and discuss it again.

The next day (we'll call Day 8 the next day because of the quirks), she follows my vote because "some interesting things must have happened".

Cookie 2 wrote:I am amazed to find myself alive. I have had internet issues for a few days, but barring more awful weather, should be OK now. I will catch up (it appears there were shenanigans? I think I expected to come back to day 7?).

In any case, sorry to the hosts and my fellow players.

I see that both Dom & Cobalt votes Golden, so something interesting must have happened. So did everyone else, so why not? I will vote Golden, too, since based on boos reveal, everything is definitely not as it seems, is it?

Cookie is getting my vote tomorrow, but I'll be less quick to place it, probably.

Paul Stevens

Ricochet 2 wrote:
Lipsticklacey 2 wrote:In the boo 2 lynch, SVS 2, Scotty 2, and Golden 2 all voted cookie 2.

So, if after Golden 2 is lynched we don't find out we have eliminated a baddie team, I think our next options are Cookie 2, who they all voted for to distance from, or Epignosis 2, who voted along with them.
Cobalt 2 also voted Cookie 2, but in comparison to Epi 2, for a baddie on that team, it seems unlikely.

Personally, I think Cookie 2 is the obvious choice to lynch first between them; but since this lynch is already locked down, unless there is still more manipulation to come; I figure it can't hurt to think ahead and get the discussion started.

Thoughts?
I've been thinking cookie is covering for golden for ages...

But every single baddie votes cookie for distance? I doubt it. If anything it makes me feel much better about cookie.

Tinfoil hat theory here.

We saw the day end early and reywas go down yesterday, right? If this power belongs to the baddies, then they surely could start piling votes on a comrade for distancing credit. Cookie 2 never did lead that lynch, and it was never a tie until SVS 2 (albeit a flipped baddie) tied it up at 6-6 at the end of the day.

According to this theory, the votes that day period don't mean a whole lot. Except for llama 2 who voted for SVS 2. In retrospect, that is strangely coincidental.

Paul Stevens

Golden 2 wrote:
Cobalt 2 wrote:
Golden 2 wrote:I'll be over at the bar again until regardless how many dusks and dawns it takes for this bullshit to be over.

I tracked "rey" doing something to me the Night I died and then tracked him again on Night 5, when it turned out he targeted me again. The first time I said he might be my killer, but the second time his shenanigans was clear. So last Day I voted him so quick out of grudge impulse. I didn't expect the Day to freaking end. However, to be frank, I still feel vindicated because of that miserable loss I suffered, after two human days of playing fair, considering I didn't stand a chance to earn his sympathy in the first place.
Tracking AND ending days early. Mississippi goddamn, you a powerful somebody. You ain't voted early one time before now. All of a sudden it's a grudge insteada making a case.

BOOL SHIT
Where the fuck did I say I ended the Day early? I said the complete opposite of that.

You ended the day late?

Paul Stevens

Golden 2 wrote:Lol you voted like two seconds into Day 8 and now preach me on patience?

Enjoy your loss if you're civ, gg if scum.

I was too slow yesterday.

I was too quick today.

Fuck if I can win either way huh.

Paul Stevens

Nobody posts for like 20 minutes and you get your panties in a bunch.

This after a coincidental quick day termination where your vote was the only one in the lynch poll.

Naw son, you're shit outta luck.

Paul Stevens

Reywas 2 wrote:A "RIP" would be nice, bitches

RIP Master Turnip.

Paul Stevens

Golden 2 gets my vote right now.

Paul Stevens

Paul Stevens

Roxy wrote:Day has ended post soonish
It is now Night 7 send in your Night Actions

Damn, I'm glad I got my vote in.

Paul Stevens

Bass 2 wrote:Are you suggesting the possibility of two mafia groups that get kills on alternating nights?

I think it more likely that the other group consists of whatever players that Elohcin 2 recruited.

Two mafia groups and a ninja recruiter sounds like a bit much to deal with imo.

Paul Stevens

And my vote has gone away.

Paul Stevens

My vote is going on Golden 2. I see nowhere else I'd rather it go.

Paul Stevens

Golden 2 wrote:
Bass 2 wrote:"Real TGG" should be "I"

You're going to eat those words.
Keep pegging, doctor. Saying "I" is called info dump.

Yup, you are a Syndicate regular alright. You even know the infodumping rules rather well.

Paul Stevens

Interesting, that SVS 2, a baddie, was killed on Night 6, an even night.

Golden 2 was killed on Night 2, also an even night. That makes it far less likely that he was killed by this mafia group.

Paul Stevens

Bass 2 wrote:My awareness is awe-inspiring, isn't it?

My point stands, however.

I'm picking up what you're laying down. I have searched the thread to find evidence to counter the claim that Golden is the real Gamerguy.

Case 1:

Golden 2 wrote:linki @ "Lipsticklacey": lol what. I was being pedantic. Also, to further be pedantic, "Llama" is placed correctly as just Llama 2, but "TGG" is placed incorrectly as just Gamer Guy.

On Day 1, Golden comments on the location of a couple players' names in the poll. He points out that llama is placed incorrectly but alphabetically as Llama 2 (instead of the thellama73). But he follows up that "'TGG' is placed incorrectly as just Gamer guy". He is correct that if TGG was listed as ThatGamerGuy instead of GamerGuy, it would be alphabetically correct. However, if Golden 2 was the real GamerGuy, he would surely have remembered that his name is spelled XthAtGAm3RGuYX.

Case 2:

Back on Day 3 when Golden was posting in pictures, he posted one particular picture as spoiled below.

Spoiler: show

GamerGuy is an observant fellow, but he has not been playing with Metalmarsh long enough to know his particular playstyle, and recognize it behind a sock puppet on his own. This picture leads to two different possibiliites that both look dire for Golden 2. 1) Golden 2 is the real GamerGuy, but has BTSC with at least one other player, learned about this identity, and unwittingly posted this knowledge. 2) Golden 2 is not the real GamerGuy, but a fake, another player hiding behind this identity hiding behind Golden's identity.

Golden 2, you are not who you were previously revealed to be, and I will make it my life's mission to have you lynched tomorrow!

Paul Stevens

Golden 2 wrote:
Bass 2 wrote:
Golden 2 wrote:
Bass 2 wrote:Golden 2, my questions are as follows:
3) In what context was the joke about "That Goofy Clown" made?

3) I commended you for it, as part of your sockplay, after you died. I made another comment, afterwards, towards you as "Bass", but it was off-topic and under my real account - so isolated from the game. The rest is in the fogs for me, after all this time. I'm sorry, but I tried to prove myself throughout the whole game, since this conflict started and I don't have anymore strength for that. You decide for yourself which one of us is the orchestrator. I responded to "boo" throwing darts at me as soon as he started.
You're the imposter.

For one, your entire tone is wrong here. TGG wouldn't be so politely complacent with people suspecting his identity. Second, you have no idea where "ThatGoofyClown" came from. It wasn't more than two months ago, and it was infuriating for TGG, so while he might not remember exactly who said it he most definitely remembers the event.

Golden 2 is a seemer and not the real TGG. Consider boo 2's response to backlash from his statement. Unless it was an elaborate setup to walk the line of being mod killed and act as TGG in anger, there is no benefit to intentionally drawing the ire of the mods and players. So we can assume only two possible scenarios. Real TGG said something, got reprimanded, and got mad. Fake seemer-TGG planned to say something offensive, hope he wouldn't be mod killed, and emulate TGG's anger.

Syn 2, you can back me up on the specific TGG brand of frustration. Remember when Jan joined JTM and that pleasant experience? Tell me that didn't sound exactly like boo 2.

I move that we lynch Golden 2 tomorrow. A seeker would still flip whatever they chose even after being rezzed, correct?

You do know "Syn" left the game, right?

Do you have anything else to say to this post Golden?

Paul Stevens

Bass 2 wrote:
Golden 2 wrote:
Bass 2 wrote:Golden 2, my questions are as follows:
3) In what context was the joke about "That Goofy Clown" made?

3) I commended you for it, as part of your sockplay, after you died. I made another comment, afterwards, towards you as "Bass", but it was off-topic and under my real account - so isolated from the game. The rest is in the fogs for me, after all this time. I'm sorry, but I tried to prove myself throughout the whole game, since this conflict started and I don't have anymore strength for that. You decide for yourself which one of us is the orchestrator. I responded to "boo" throwing darts at me as soon as he started.
You're the imposter.

For one, your entire tone is wrong here. TGG wouldn't be so politely complacent with people suspecting his identity. Second, you have no idea where "ThatGoofyClown" came from. It wasn't more than two months ago, and it was infuriating for TGG, so while he might not remember exactly who said it he most definitely remembers the event.

Golden 2 is a seemer and not the real TGG. Consider boo 2's response to backlash from his statement. Unless it was an elaborate setup to walk the line of being mod killed and act as TGG in anger, there is no benefit to intentionally drawing the ire of the mods and players. So we can assume only two possible scenarios. Real TGG said something, got reprimanded, and got mad. Fake seemer-TGG planned to say something offensive, hope he wouldn't be mod killed, and emulate TGG's anger.

Syn 2, you can back me up on the specific TGG brand of frustration. Remember when Jan joined JTM and that pleasant experience? Tell me that didn't sound exactly like boo 2.

I move that we lynch Golden 2 tomorrow. A seeker would still flip whatever they chose even after being rezzed, correct?

Syn 2 is dead bro.

Search found 161 matches