The Syndicate

and the horsemen didn't know who each other were? interesting indeed

Wow okay turns out the only ones I had right were Dom/Rachel (easy ) and Niju/Rahab.
LC was Pilate?!?!?!? Whaaaat

Phew go civvies! Still pissed that I was so close and didn't quite make it to the end
And lol Absalom was a horseman, wow!! So I really want to learn more about them, what exactly was your win condition MP? (interesting that you all win even though you're dead -- but then I guess that makes some sense, with Death and all...)


Also interested to find out who people were. I have some guesses for a few, but mostly it was fun being in the dark.

Wonder if anyone could tell who I am? I don't think I've been too sneaky in my posting style, especially toward the end.

linki: okay gonna post this then read that whole list.

Also I thought Judah or someone was modkilled already?
Judah's info on the front page says "smote by the Lord" so I thought that's what happened

Maybe a secret of Phinehas' role that if he gets lynched and still hasn't used the spear it brings someone down with him?

Pilate I don't know what game you're playing, but in this one it's pretty damn clear (and has been for pretty much the whole game, to me at least) that Lot is the civviest civ who ever civved.

When Lot began voting Lazarus he HEAVILY hinted that the Horsemen were forcing him to.

Well, it would make the most sense that he's Judas if he was "unimpeachable" earlier and now isn't.

Wtf?!?!?! No way. I agree with Stephen -- I am annoyed that Rebecca has not been in the thread to defend herself and just let us waste a lynch. I was so confident about her being bad. Damn.

Inclined to go for Rahab next -- still a little wary regarding Pilate but it is looking most likely he is bad. And 24 hours it is.

Rebecca... ecca... echo... ditto...

They weren't disguised this time. I guess because the teams were the player names, not the biblical tribes.

Yeah, Belsh won.

Belshazzar was a Horseman, not a Heathen. Still, I think your earlier record was decent (maybe not "unimpeachable" but there were some points in your favor although I did suspect you a couple times) but I think it is possible you are recruited Judas. Anyway I think Rebecca is the priority for today.

Oh, and there's a poll for the deadie competition! Gonna root for Absalom.

Phew. Wow. That was nerve-wracking. Can't believe Lot was that close to getting stoned. Incredible. I agree with absolutely everything Stephen is saying. We can do this people!

I'll vote for Deborah.

Nooo Absalom RIP. And Jonah too huh.

I am finding Samuel more and more believable to be honest. I still think there is a chance he could be Judas, but I'm feeling somewhat more confident about going after someone like Rahab/Rebecca/Deborah today.

Damn. So sorry Isaac.

I don't think Rahab's vote necessarily exonerates her.

Gah I feel so uncertain about everyone at this point. Guess I'll still go with Isaac for tonight and hope for the best.

Huh, I could see Samuel as Judas. Especially since I found Stephen's vouch trustworthy -- maybe he searched/checked Sam earlier when he was civ, but now he's turned bad.

I could see any of Deborah, Rebecca, or Rahab as heathen but I feel too uncertain to pick one. Also, is there a reason we're not considering just trying again for an Isaac lynch?

@Esther- I really would recommend reading the thread. It's essential for participating and contributing reasonably, and it just ends up awkward for you when you comment on stuff you didn't pay attention to. For instance, if you had been paying attention you might have noticed that Spacedaisy actually voted by accident, and so Absalom was commenting on that. I wasn't going to fault you for not remembering that Isaac mentioned replacing in several days ago, and I understand being busy and having to skim a page or two, but you could at least try your best to read as much as possible before posting and having no idea what you're talking about.

Pilate wrote:Sorry I missed the vote, I would have voted Ruth.

Does anyone know why the Chapters have restarted? Did we start a new Book?

Huh, didn't notice that. Weird.

This is at least the second time Spacedaisy has voted

What, Esther? We know Isaac was replaced. I'm sure that's what Bathsheba was referring to. With Isaac Epig didn't make any announcement or take him off the poll as I recall, Isaac himself told us that he was "2.0". I have no trouble believing the same is true of Bathsheba.


Anyway I'm gonna go ahead and vote for Ruth. *crosses fingers that she doesn't blow up in my face*

Oh, Balaam, sorry I also forgot - RIP. I was sorry to see you go, dude. Even though scrolling through your rainbows was really annoying.

I didn't mean extreme in a bad sense, just that your approach is sort of polar opposite from Absalom's. Again, I think you are both being very reasonable and I am having trouble weighing both sides of the coin. On the one hand Absalom is right in wanting to make sure we absolutely get rid of a baddie, and Ruth is basically confirmed. On the other hand, we're reasonably confident (though not 100%) that Isaac is heathen, and lynching him is less likely to have dire consequences than lynching Ruth. On the other other hand, keeping Ruth around may have just as many or more dire consequences as lynching her.

Phew, guys, calm down a little. You both make legitimate points, and I for one am kind of caught in the middle of your tug-of-war and am not really sure what to do today. Like Absalom I think it is important to get rid of Ruth, but like Lot I fear she may be a trap and there might be consequences. And I'm reasonably convinced that Isaac has to go. Idk I think both Absalom and Lot have good intentions but they're thinking from two extremes and I think it's valuable to consider both sides of the argument here. It may seem like trying to lynch Ruth is too obvious, but having her around definitely isn't helping us either.

A wild Bathsheba appears

Wait, the horsemen don't have btsc? I guess it doesn't say they did, they just all have secrets, but somehow I assumed... huh. okay.

Also I think what Belsh said makes sense wrt my role? But shh the baddies didn't hear that

Wait so are we in a night now? Do the horsemen not count as "evil" to Joshua?
If so this sucks I'm probably gonna die

I wonder what we can learn from this about the horsemen's motives/win conditions. From Belsh's last words it looks like they've aligned with the heathens. This isn't really looking good. :\

Whoa...
this is a lot to take in. So Belsh was Death, and his lynch got Ruth rezzed... meaning there are three Heathens alive? Damn...

Well if not Isaac I guess.

Ha those posts. If Belsh flips bad I bet Deb is his teammate.

Elaborate post there Belsh. I have to say I've had my doubts, but that's really a baddie defense if I ever saw one. *votes*

Wow Jonah hasn't even posted in like five days :\ But after looking at his posts I'm 99% sure who his sockdentity is and his periodic absence doesn't surprise me much tbh. He hasn't given much to work with but I've seen no reason not to give him BOTD, so I see him as default civvie for now.

Woohoo awesome!
Very confused about how the poll worked out though.


Lot-- I'm still a little confused about the last part of your case. I'm not convinced that Isaac was on the same wavelength as you in the "walking target" convo. He knew what you meant about activating him, but the point he was making was that activating him would make him even more likely to get NKed, so he was wary of that. Still, I see how it's suspicious that he prioritizes that self-preservation over activating and confirming a role for the civvie cause, and it does look like he could have been dissuading it because he knew he'd be found out.

Your case had a few other solid points and I'm willing to pursue him again for this next lynch, along with maybe looking at Jonah and Rahab a bit more. I'm feeling pretty good about Rahab's most recent posts though. I don't remember anything really about Jonah, so I'll probably give him a readthrough. Perhaps one of the elusive Horsemen?

linki: Oh whoa. Nice catches there Absalom. I'm sold, add Belsh to my down-to-lynch list

oh wow this is a close vote

Hey, sorry, been at work all day and just got back in time to vote last minute, am not fully caught up. I'm flipfloppy on Isaac and I trust Lot but I also really suspect Mordecai so this is a hard choice. I'm going with Mordecai because as much as I feel bad for going after someone who seems to be silenced, I think it's pretty likely his team would silence him to protect him because he was already being talked about as a lynch candidate, so it just makes me suspect him more.

@Lot - you're probably skimming over my "hints" because they weren't really hints in the traditional sense so much as repeatedly bringing up stuff related to my role, sort of in hopes that some people would notice I kept mentioning it. I was trying to be really subtle, and I guess I was

I just misinterpreted the conversation, I guess. I got lost in all your "walking target" analysis and picked up on the wrong implications.

Rest in peace Rachel, rest in whatever Judah

I'm not sure I see all this reasoning regarding Isaac. If we give the ultimatum "if he's not NKed let's lynch him" then duh obviously the baddies aren't going to NK him so they can get a free pass out of a lynch. I might be missing something in the rest of your logic, but to me Isaac doesn't really seem worth going after. Also I think I might still be misunderstanding how the apostles work? For some reason I missed that revealing powers was a thing and thought some of those were there all along, and that some of them were actually just vanilla. Huh.

Mordecai is my top choice for today. I reread Rebecca and am feeling a bit more ambivalent on her. Rahab is also interesting, I'll give her a read.

I'm going to be a lot less active in the daytime from now on, starting a summer job tomorrow

I'm not really concerned about the pure statistics so much as her posts surrounding them. In context, her Mary Mag vote looked really bad to me.

Still, searching for other civvies is not entirely vanilla. I can see why he'd say that but it feels kinda wrong.

Oh wait, no, I misread them. The special abilities are the ones there, in brackets. Never mind.

Wait a minute, don't all the apostles have special abilities? Are there any truly "vanilla" civs? Was that a Vanilly slip, Isaac?
Could be he's an unactivated apostle and is essentially vanilla, but still.


Absalom, why no analysis of Rebecca? What are your thoughts on her? She keeps getting skipped over in discussion, and I think she's still worth looking at.

Hmm, interesting thoughts Abs, I could actually see Belshazzar as a heathen, though I would really be impressed at his style. Looking back at some of his posts, he acted pretty hesitant towards going after Uzziah, saying he was in a "trio" of "brash rogue civvies" with Samson and Cain, and he kept pushing other suspicions. A lot of his Day 3 activity really stands out to me, and most of what I found on a search of his posts for "uzziah" could be interpreted as subtle teammate activity. Also, I might mention, he kept pushing the me + Jonathan cases -- just what a baddie trying to look like a helpful civ would do, press for the popular-but-red-herring suspicions. I don't know if I'm ready to put him at the top of my list yet, just because he's looked so typically civvie of the putting-all-his-thoughts-out-there type all game, and he could of course have just been honestly misguided like the rest of us, but this is an intriguing perspective on him and I'd like to see what he has to say.

Well that sucks