The Syndicate

So um, been traveling yesterday, and a bit busy with family things today.

Looks like y'all took care of everything. See you next game!

Bravo wrote: ↑Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:53 pm

Juliet wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:54 am

India wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:11 am We could have waited for day two to pull that. Then the oracle would have a choice regarding who to reveal. How unfortunate.

And furthermore, since the oracle is vanilla so long as it lives, I would imagine that the bad guys would avoid killing it. And the good guys would avoid lynching it as well.

So, I don't really want to believe you, Echo. I wonder what your motive is. Bad guy, trying to avoid being lynched? Good guy, trying not to get lynched or killed? Or are you a genuine Oracle, though very short-sighted?

It's not short-sighted, it's a pretty, solid plan,
What would you have done if you were dealt that hand?
Do you have some thoughts on why he took this stand?
I think it's legit, and he/she's a cool little can.

If we accept the scenario where India is the oracle and Echo is the disguiser, this is a funny moment. Juliet protested India's protest of Echo's claim, or more accurately the strategy behind the claim. I'm not sure why Juliet felt the claim-on-day-1 plan was a good one.

Conclusion: it doesn't look great at face value. I'd call them compatible teammates.

Well I feel silly. I just reread the Oracle and realize it reveals one player's role on death. What I thought it meant was it would reveal all players' roles (going forward) upon death.

I'm just going to go sit in a corner now...

Alpha wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:48 pm In case I die tonight:

Juliets was suspiciously quick to not only accept that Echo was the real Oracle but also to practically praise Echo for their strategy which involved leveraging possibility of Oracle information in exchange for personal survival. In the light that Echo was a mafia member fake-claiming Oracle, this looks really bad. Juliet was also very quick to drop their suspicion of me and there was also some inconsistency there regarding their reasoning for suspecting me in the first place. The whole thing just felt kinda sketchy I guess. As of right now Juliet is my top scum read.

Bravo and Charlie are probably civ, everyone else I have neutral reads on.

Why does this look really bad?

I liked your responses. What did you expect me to do that didn't feel "kinda sketchy". This accussation is trying to fit a narrative son. What would I have to gain as scum by saying these things? Do you feel that your responses were insufficient?

Alpha wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:48 pm

Golf wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:45 pm No I am not bad. But frankly I joined this game to help fill the game out, so lynch me if you want. I won't cry over it, especially given the fact that there are no flips. I think it's unlikely the civs can possibly win this so whatever. I'm pretty uninvested.

Also, why would I distance from teammates like that if there are no flips? This is what I was trying to decide about Kilo...

Foxtrot wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:01 pm

Alpha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:54 pm Alright so.... What does that mean?

Means I no longer give a shit.

Too stressful to care about a game that doesn't reward you with info anyways.

I just wanna have a good time and spell funny words. Like... FIB and.... and IF

Let RNG hunt down mafia.

Linki - and here comes I to rain on F's parade.

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:01 pm There seems to be an issue. Perhaps the limited power roles were more a detriment to the setup rules than anything?

I will poll tonight if you all wish for me to reveal alignments upon lynches

But nothing more than that

Apologies for the discomfort

These were the posts I was talking about. This is the toxicity I wanted to nip in the bud. I didn't like the whiney attitude and it seemed unfair to sprityo.

Also:

Alpha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:03 pm

Juliet wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:59 pm

Alpha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:24 pm tl;dr would force legible content and prevent rapping being used as a smokescreen.

Forcing a player and imposing your will?
Calm your jets man, sit back and chill
I can't be arsed to take your pill
I'll play as a I like, and enjoy it still

*votes Juliets*

Alpha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:07 pm I'll play as I like as well.

What I like is encouraging open and honest communication and pressuring players to contribute more.

My vote for you was completely fair. I asked you to alter your gimmick to be more communication friendly and you refused to do so, so I placed my vote on you as added motivation to communicate more and also better. My vote didn't even stay on you so I don't really understand what your complaint is.

Thanks for pulling that quote. I missed that post originally.

Hotel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:43 pm Okay, voting Echo because why not. Need to finish catching up and then hopefully can provide some reads. This has been a tough setup to get my mind around.

What part are you having trouble getting your mind around?

Alpha wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:02 pm Also there's a significant difference between being dismayed at there being no info flips and flipping the table over and complaining there was no point in playing because we aren't being rewarded with information.

You took some liberties in writing a dramatic quote while accusing several other unnamed people of saying such things.

Alpha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:59 pm

some of you nerds wrote:Oh no, this game is a little bit difficult. I guess we should all just give up, and stop trying to win forever.

It's only day 1, why are you guys already deciding what we can't do?

Then you stated those people would receive your ire for saying such a thing again.

Alpha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:30 pm Next letter to complain about game mechanics will earn my eternal ire.

So who flipped a table over and how did they do it and how is that different from what you said?

Your stance was ambivalent. You agreed with India's response, asked me to speak more clearly, but immediately turned that into a vote. It looks opportunistic considering I already had a vote.

You immediate response and then-after vote do not line up in my eyes.

No I don't, I'm not fully caught up on the goings-on there.

Wow, the line breaks in the post are uuuuuugly.

Sup y'all!!! Dr. J is back in the house.

My new album was not a hit, so I've left the music biz in pursuit of other things to grind my bling. But before I completely pack my bags, I'll address my critics.

Alpha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:17 pm

India wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:09 pm

Juliet wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:45 pm

Echo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:57 pm

Alpha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:11 pm Without any reliable flips in this game it's more important than ever for everyone to be pretty dang clear about why they're voting for who they're voting for.

Without any flips - reliable or unreliable - it will be harder than most other games to determine which voting reasons are genuine.

Hello friends, Dr. J is back
I saw this post, and I gotta react
I like your pause, I think it's got good tact
But reasons are reasons, scum will still slack
It's a game about the mind and a game about deceit
Take a seat, watch 'em speak, or accept defeat
If we talk and talk, keep 'em out on the street
We'll nab those wolves dead on their feet.

I dislike this post. It says nothing.

[mention]Juliet[/mention], rap is cool and fun and I'm glad you're doing it. It's also going to make it harder for you to communicate and harder for us to read you. I know this is maybe antithetical to your rap strategy but if you could include a tl;dr at the end of your rap verses I would appreciate it.

India is a blunt letter. An immediate response of antagonism, but pulling no punches. I like that.

Alpha on the other hand, came in with an ambivalent approach. Agreeing with India, yet being wishy-washy to the rhymes. Not cool! Additionally, Alpha was chilling around, laying other posts on the thread after my above-quoted track, with no response to yours truly. Bad jazz for you Alpha-friend.

Especially with the immediate agreement with India, and the immediate vote-vote.

Alpha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:25 pm I'd be okay with a Juliet vote.

And to answer Bravo-Man-Burrito:
Let the talkers keep talking and eliminate the quiet ones who may never answer your pleas.
The arrogance is strong in this one.
What do you think about someone claiming to be the Oracle?



Also, the guy who said this:
previously asked this:
Alpha's gotta go.



Also, I see India's dead. Amazing! He/she's a badass.

Alpha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:24 pm tl;dr would force legible content and prevent rapping being used as a smokescreen.

Forcing a player and imposing your will?
Calm your jets man, sit back and chill
I can't be arsed to take your pill
I'll play as a I like, and enjoy it still

Echo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:57 pm

Alpha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:11 pm Without any reliable flips in this game it's more important than ever for everyone to be pretty dang clear about why they're voting for who they're voting for.

Without any flips - reliable or unreliable - it will be harder than most other games to determine which voting reasons are genuine.

Hello friends, Dr. J is back
I saw this post, and I gotta react
I like your pause, I think it's got good tact
But reasons are reasons, scum will still slack
It's a game about the mind and a game about deceit
Take a seat, watch 'em speak, or accept defeat
If we talk and talk, keep 'em out on the street
We'll nab those wolves dead on their feet.

Welcome Foxtrot to our game of Phenon,
Mafia's our game and I'm here to rap along,
It's good to see your face so I don't carry on
lynching your ass and and learning your song.

India wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:11 am We could have waited for day two to pull that. Then the oracle would have a choice regarding who to reveal. How unfortunate.

And furthermore, since the oracle is vanilla so long as it lives, I would imagine that the bad guys would avoid killing it. And the good guys would avoid lynching it as well.

So, I don't really want to believe you, @Echo. I wonder what your motive is. Bad guy, trying to avoid being lynched? Good guy, trying not to get lynched or killed? Or are you a genuine Oracle, though very short-sighted?

It's not short-sighted, it's a pretty, solid plan,
What would you have done if you were dealt that hand?
Do you have some thoughts on why he took this stand?
I think it's legit, and he/she's a cool little can.

India wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:54 am The argument I usually see against lynching an inactive player on day one is that we get no information from that. In this game, we get no information anyway. I am not opposed to lynching a mostly inactive player. Though it is frustrating that we have so many.

That's merely one point you've brought in defense,
And I must agree that it's not pretense,
We get no information from lynching ladies or gents
That's some crazy shit, well that's my two cents.

What's up town, it's Dr. J,
I brought along my vote and I'm here to stay.
You ask me if I'd want to lynch the letter K?
I tell you "Yesssir! After an and MIA".
Why not instead lynch the letter G?
Or better yet, toss your votes on the AWOL D?
A letter that's the furthest from what our eyes see,
Just like the moon at its apogee.

I switched my vote to a non-poster for now. [mention]Hotel[/mention]

I'm happy to lynch such a player today.

Did I say jib? I meant gibe.

Bravo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:33 pm On this page so far we have spelled CISPRITYOJIABB, which is one of my absolute favorite words

If we play our cards right, we can fill this game with lots of jibs.

India wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:37 pm

Charlie wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:28 pm As a component of this hypothetical dick, I must admit that I fail to appreciate its relevance to our objective. I shall not promise that I will not participate should a timely opportunity present itself, but I shall heretofore assume that any participant who focuses disproportionately on that goal to have insufficient priorities and that they are taking advantage of the sophomoric spelling mission to distract from the true and correct mission: the search for those among us who seek to destroy.

Should I vote Alpha for their obsession with avatar spelling?
Or Charlie for this egregious post?

Here, have my vote. Will that help you decide?

I am literally a cup of coffee.

Pleased to see y'all here.