The Syndicate

Thank you to those who tried.

15 minutes to switch your vote and save your fellow civ.

Shadowcat wrote:Sunfire, you don't have to give up necessarily. I think there's still a slight chance to turn this thing around.

@Mikhail: How would you feel about voting for Havok? I know I had accussed Exodus of buddying up to him, and lynching Exodus made me back off on suspecting Havok as being bad. But I feel like a lot of what he's been saying since that lynch (pushing for Sunfire and the way he's gone after you are the main two I've noticed) is making me start to wonder if my initial gut feeling was right. I feel like lynching him would reveal the most for me honestly, and I feel far more confident about him than anyone else right now.

Linki: When you give us half-assed reasons for your opinions, we're not very likely to go along with you now, are we?

If you've read my previous posts, you know I am for a Havok vote.

At this point, I am giving up. Things didn't turn out the way I planned (when do they ever in Mafia, I should have known better to hope for it). I wish all the civs well and hope that my lynch won't be too much of a setback. *voting Cable* I guess.

linki: You might want to listen to Sebastian.

Extended day 5.

Longshot wrote:Well Sunfire, I guess you are trying to imply that I faked being silenced? And why would I do that exactly? And the truth is, I did not fake it and I think you know as well as we do who did.

No, I'm not actually. I'm actually confused as to why everyone thinks only baddies will pretend to be silenced. Couldn't civvies think pretending to be silenced could be helpful at some point? But, that aside, there are secrets among the roles as well as prizes for the night polls. It makes sense to me that there could be three people silenced in one day.

Avalanche, what do you make of me speaking of your civviness throughout the thread while you keep accusing me of being bad?

Mikhail Rasputin wrote:

Havok wrote:LOL. I figured that was the case. That's why I wanted to lynch Shadowcat first.

Soooooo.....anyone else utterly, 100% convinced that The Vision, White Queen, and Havok are all bad now? Mojo, Sunfire?

Also, I now think Shaw may be indy. He does not give a single fuck. Not a one.

I believe these three are among the scum!

Sebastian Shaw wrote:Oh, I see Avalanche voted for Sunfire, and I think Sunfire is good, so Avalanche could be bad.

You are right and wrong. I am good but Avalance is also.

Spiral wrote:

Sunfire wrote:RIP Domino. I figured you were Gambit. I mean, I thought it was obvious. I guess others disagreed.

It is good to talk again What did I learn while silenced? No one really has any kind of a case on me .

Looking forward to today. My suspicions lie with Havok and I am unsure about White Queen. Sometimes I see her as helpful, but mostly I read her as bad. But...dinner for now. I will be back later.

Why is it obvious that Domino was gambit? Why was Exodus not Gambit?

Hmm..so you are saying Domino could have been Mystique? Hmm.

I'm retarted and forgot I couldn't vote. That's the God's honest truth.

RIP Domino. I figured you were Gambit. I mean, I thought it was obvious. I guess others disagreed.

It is good to talk again What did I learn while silenced? No one really has any kind of a case on me .

Looking forward to today. My suspicions lie with Havok and I am unsure about White Queen. Sometimes I see her as helpful, but mostly I read her as bad. But...dinner for now. I will be back later.

Shadowcat wrote:In that case, Avalanche, go for it! You get my vote too. Go kick some Morlock butt!

Sunfire wrote: I previously told Avalanche I would prove my civviness to him. I'm just being playful...no slip. If I were bad I woiuld not be THAT stupid. :P

I'm not sure if I believe you.

It's right here...

Sunfire wrote:RIP Quicksilver :/ I really thought you were bad b/c of your 'second in line' explanation. I'm so sorry. Perhaps if I had gotten back to the computer earlier and understood what everyone was talking about the result would have been different.

linki: unwilling to move? how about those who WEREN'T HERE? How about those who had no clue what you all were talking about once they did come into the thread?

linki again with Avalance: You definitely incorrect. I will show you in time. Just wait and see

Phoenix wrote:

Sunfire wrote:

Avalanche wrote:

Sunfire wrote:

Avalanche wrote:Okay, two things.

1) can you guys stop silencing me every day? It is getting old. Thanks.

2) Morlock Tunnels, oh my God it is about time! I think you all know who is most equipped (and enthusiastic!) about going in there. Do the right thing. Vote me.

Okay. I'll vote you if you promise not to die

I promise not to die from Morlocks. I don't promise that you and your baddie allies won't kill me.

You don't have to wait much longer, my dear friend

Huh-WHAT? What is THAT response supposed to mean?

I previously told Avalanche I would prove my civviness to him. I'm just being playful...no slip. If I were bad I woiuld not be THAT stupid. :P

Avalanche wrote:

Sunfire wrote:

Avalanche wrote:Okay, two things.

1) can you guys stop silencing me every day? It is getting old. Thanks.

2) Morlock Tunnels, oh my God it is about time! I think you all know who is most equipped (and enthusiastic!) about going in there. Do the right thing. Vote me.

Okay. I'll vote you if you promise not to die

I promise not to die from Morlocks. I don't promise that you and your baddie allies won't kill me.

You don't have to wait much longer, my dear friend

Avalanche wrote:Okay, two things.

1) can you guys stop silencing me every day? It is getting old. Thanks.

2) Morlock Tunnels, oh my God it is about time! I think you all know who is most equipped (and enthusiastic!) about going in there. Do the right thing. Vote me.

Okay. I'll vote you if you promise not to die

Shadowcat wrote:Also (sorry for all the posts in a row again btw!), I would be willing to consider giving this to Avalanche, since he was so gung-ho about wanting to fight Morlocks earlier. But part of me also wonders if the person who "wins" will be negatively affected by it. I'd like to hear some thoughts on people who know a bit more about the X-Men universe before I make a decision here.

We'll have to wait and see what Avalanche says.

That makes a lot of sense Domino. Secrets. Mystique. *putting two and two together*

This sums up my thoughts mostly.

Shadowcat wrote:
You know, Exodus, you've been really good so far about jumping around and casting blame, but never fully committing to or sticking to one person for any extended period of time. I'm surprised you went this long before I noticed it.

And I think there is a good chance that Exodus and Havok are teammates.

And to tell everyone who I feel good about...I am most certain that Avalanche, Hawkeye, and Banshee are good and in that order.

Shadowcat wrote: I will read SC's case on it's own merits and follow the links and read things in context before judging and voting. Not sure I liked how Deadpool, Sunfire, Domino, Mojo and Polaris jumped on it without adding their own thoughts to what was posted. All claimed it was interesting /good points/ good case wonder why they couldn't at least said what was the part that made them agree with it?

Shadowcat wrote: As for Sunfire, I've been on the fence. I'd probably lean slightly baddie now though, given the way he went and voted along with my case without adding anything else of value. I think it's a good way to deflect attention away from himself when he's got a lot of in his direction. I'm fine with people possibly looking at him as a lynch candidate today.

It was A LOT to read. I am busy IRL most of the time. I didn't have time to speak on it, but I will get my thoughts all written this evening and share. The reason I came into the thread in the first place was to switch my vote. I wanted to remove my vote because after reading back I felt it was most likely a silly reason to vote Domino. I actually thought about voting myself for the time being just to remove my vote from Domino, then I read SC's posts and decided to go with Exodus instead. I had already spent too much time on Mafia, neglecting things I needed to get done IRL, so I just voted. But, like I said, I will get my thoughts together now and let you all know what I'm thinking. I do realize I have been a bit presumptuous this game. I apologize.

Wow, Shadowcat. You have spent a lot of time and have been very helpful today. I know this will sound wishy-washy, but I am changing my vote to Exodus. There is just too much evidence not to.

Exodus wrote:

Domino wrote:

Havok wrote:agreed. I don't see where the Phoenix idea comes from. I think that if Professor X wanted to call out Phoenix over Sunfire, he wouldn't have used the word sun.

Just a thought. I still think they both are bad and see voting either out today to be a good option.

I'm slightly concerned at how you came into the game and now suspect the two people who were alternative lynching options to Quicksilver. While I suspect them myself, it feels like you might be going with the flow. I'll have to read your previous posts, I haven't fully caught up.

I was thinking this the other day when Domino 2 joined us for the first time. He came in full force like he already knew what was going on, like he'd been following the thread the whole time. Maybe he is one of the deaded players.

Hmm, and then Exodus caught this which I somehow missed...

Exodus wrote:

Domino wrote:Idk if Phoenix is good or not, but I def think the sun thing could be a reference to her as well. Phoenix was formed when the X Men were in space and the spirit of the Phoenix (a fire bird) possessed Jean Grey's body. So, if Prof X was trying to reference a clue, it's either vote. Phoenix or Sunfire out. We have to be cautious though for manipulation and try to get it right this time. We've lost too many civ teammates the past 3 days already

Domino wrote:

Havok wrote:agreed. I don't see where the Phoenix idea comes from. I think that if Professor X wanted to call out Phoenix over Sunfire, he wouldn't have used the word sun.

Just a thought. I still think they both are bad and see voting either out today to be a good option.

Think I am going to vote for Domino.

I'm going to place my vote on Domino for now as well.

RIP Dazzler

Hawkeye wrote:

Mojo wrote:
Does prof x want us to look at sun fire?

That's how I interpreted it.

C'mon Professor X. I asked for some time to prove myself.

@ those who suspect me...what is it about me? I'd like to have a chance to persuade you otherwise. I good I tell ya....good!

Mikhail Rasputin wrote:

Sunfire wrote:

Mikhail Rasputin wrote:I agree, it seems clear someone trustworthy should get this. I would love to get it, but probably won't vote myself unless the votes dictate it somehow.

I'll vote for ya.

Just 'cause you suspect me doesn't mean I suspect you. Seriously. I'm a good one

Mikhail Rasputin wrote:I agree, it seems clear someone trustworthy should get this. I would love to get it, but probably won't vote myself unless the votes dictate it somehow.

I'll vote for ya.

Sebastian Shaw wrote:Nobody ever listens to me.

maybe if you gave some explanations.

RIP Quicksilver :/ I really thought you were bad b/c of your 'second in line' explanation. I'm so sorry. Perhaps if I had gotten back to the computer earlier and understood what everyone was talking about the result would have been different.

linki: unwilling to move? how about those who WEREN'T HERE? How about those who had no clue what you all were talking about once they did come into the thread?

linki again with Avalance: You definitely incorrect. I will show you in time. Just wait and see

I just want to say that I am confused as hell. No one was talking in the thread much so I went to do some chores and eat dinner and I come back to having lots of votes and two pages to read. I am lost.

@ Mikhail - I'm sorry you see some of my posts as a bit uncaring. I do care. If you knew me personally you'd know that life circumstances have made me the type of person to say, "it is what it is" and move on to try to do better next time. Day 1 lynches are usually townies. Scum have the advantage early on in the game. They know who their teammates are and who is a townie. Of course there are independents but those are usually very few. Anyway, I am a realist and I don't ever expect to lynch scum on Day 1. This doesn't mean I am one of them.

Sebastian Shaw wrote:

Polaris wrote:

Sebastian Shaw wrote:Quicksilver is good. Vote for Polaris instead. She's a monster inside.

I saw Sebastian Shaw with the devil...

But really, that's exactly what your vote there sounds like.

I don't know what this means.

I think Quicksilver and Sunfire are good and should not be lynched.

I'm thankful that you see me as good. But again, saying so-and-so is good or bad doesn't help any of us if you give no explanation as to why you think it. Please provide quotes and/or explanation.

Havok wrote:

Sunfire wrote:I said that the suspicion wasn't enough to vote for him, IMO.

Today, reading Quicksilvers theory of how he iss to be second in line for the scum to get lynched sounded pretty crazy to me. Then reading that Havok and Sebastion thought that Quicksilver's theory was a suitable explanation doesn't make me feel so great about them either. That is all I meant. What do you think of Quicksilver's '2nd in line' theory?

I guess I should have read everything before responding. lol

I said that QS's theory was plausible....just like how it was possible that QS was bad and had team mates help him outof the lynch. Not sure why acknowledging possibilities is suspicious?

I understand this, but I just don't see this theory as plausible.

@Sebastian - Can you explain yourself? Making statements like this is all well and good, but I believe you need some kind of information to back them up.

I said that the suspicion wasn't enough to vote for him, IMO.

Today, reading Quicksilvers theory of how he iss to be second in line for the scum to get lynched sounded pretty crazy to me. Then reading that Havok and Sebastion thought that Quicksilver's theory was a suitable explanation doesn't make me feel so great about them either. That is all I meant. What do you think of Quicksilver's '2nd in line' theory?

Dazzler wrote:

Sunfire wrote: Quicksilver's response here doesn't sell right to me. And seeing some of the responses to it makes me quite uneasy about Havok and Sebastion. Also, why go after voters when we are unsure which of them are bad. Why not go straight for Quicksilver? *votes quicksilver*

Don't you have anything to say about the two posts directly before yours, in which Hawkeye and I discuss how your day two vote seems strange?

Sorry, I am not sure how I missed that. It is what it is. I didn't think there was enough to go on quicksilver at the time. And I thought that maybe he was good but that scum were able to use townie suspicions of quicksilver to get rid of him. But, I now think I was wrong. Have you ever been wrong about a player before? I thought so.

Quicksilver wrote:

Dazzler wrote:I think it's possible Quicksilver was saved yesterday, so I think I'll start today by looking into him and the Thunderbird voters. I didn't think there was really much of a case against T-Bird anyway. I find it very curious that he went from having one vote (and therefore in no danger of being lynched) to quickly gaining another four and getting lynched. This is just a flyby post, I'll be back later to elaborate.

Sebastian Shaw wrote:I think Psylocke helped the good guys. Well done, Psylocke.

Goodbye Scarlet Witch.

Polaris wrote:That was kind of an odd kill. Anyone else believe that there might have been some sort of manipulation last night?

So do you think the Scarlet Witch was good? Why?

I know this wasn't directed at me but really I hadn't seen anything to make me think Scarlet Witch was definitely good. I didn't think she was bad though, and didn't see anything that would make me think she should be a civ ninja's target. Hopefully Psylocke saw something I didn't, as I think it's a bit strange in general for her to have used one of her only two kills so early in the game.

I was saves because i already had suspicion on me to get lynched the next day. I think some voters on T bird were bad to try to get him out first and then me second.
Who do you guys think should be examined from the voters? I know some of you think Avalanche is leadingyou the right direction, but hes wrong about me and will cause you to revevaluate what you think you know if i get lynched tomorrow.

Quicksilver's response here doesn't sell right to me. And seeing some of the responses to it makes me quite uneasy about Havok and Sebastion. Also, why go after voters when we are unsure which of them are bad. Why not go straight for Quicksilver? *votes quicksilver*

I changed my vote to Mojo. Avalanche prefers not to be it and Mojo volunteered.

*votes avalanche* I feel I can trust him as well.

RIP Thunderbird. It shows I voted already, however, I am not sure how that happened. I will change my vote when I am ready to vote for real.

I can see where there is concern about Quicksilver. I just don't think it is enough to vote him yet. I think the scum might be using this situation to their advantage. So, I am going to choose one of the players that have voted for Quicksilver. *votes Hawkeye*

Exodus wrote:Not sure I like Thunderbirds vote. First off, it is an unexplained vote and he has only 3 posts with no attempt at scumhunting.

I'm weirded out by Thunderbird's vote as well. Can you explain your vote and why you didn't give an explanation before?

@ Sebastian - can you better explain your vote for Banshee?

My thoughts are that White Queen and Avalanche are the two silenced.

On Havok: I don't really have much to add except that if he was scum, I would think he would PM the host the question about the tie instead of openly asking in the thread. And, since he did openly ask, maybe it was a slip. Don't really know or have a strong opinion on the matter.

@ Quicksilver: I agree that there are most likely scum among the quiet players, there usually are. Then again, there are usually scum who are quite talkative as well. I think if we look only to the quiet players we are just as likely to lynch a townie just as we are scum.

@ whoever asked if those who voted for How to Spot Imposters had any info on who to vote for today. We are not allowed to share such info, remember?

So glad no one died I have a few individuals I want to reread.

How to Spot Imposters looks like the book I need to read.

I'm sorry I suspected you. :/ But alas, on Day 1 there is never much to go on as I said before. Next time

White Queen wrote:

Avalanche wrote:

White Queen wrote:I am not getting happy feelings from you either, which I am sure you know.

That's a shame, because I am one of the most happy-feelingest guys you will ever meet.

Yes, you are rather charming. So was Ted Bundy, I am told.

Sunfire wrote:I was trying to make this post about an hour ago but was having problems with the site...

Deathlok wrote:
So I'm gonna go ahead and vote Scarlett Witch. If she's lynched, at best we've caught a baddie and her male friend, at worst I'll more or less feel like I can trust Polaris. Either outcome is better than the traditional Night 1 "Oh, we lynched a civvie and have no information about potential baddies, either."

I just don't see the gender thing being that big of a deal. I am going ahead and putting a vote on you for now at least.

Sunfire, just curious. If you don't think it's that big of a deal, why are you voting based on it? Do you think pointing potential slips out is a baddie move? I myself don't agree with his suspicion at this point, based on that reason, but I do not see why he is bad for having such a suspicion. I have seen baddies make similar slips, it is not unheard of.

I think pointing out potential slips may be something scum would do to keep attention away from them. I am not saying that is definitely what is going on here, but it is a bit of something to go on. It IS only Day 1.

I was trying to make this post about an hour ago but was having problems with the site...

Deathlok wrote:
So I'm gonna go ahead and vote Scarlett Witch. If she's lynched, at best we've caught a baddie and her male friend, at worst I'll more or less feel like I can trust Polaris. Either outcome is better than the traditional Night 1 "Oh, we lynched a civvie and have no information about potential baddies, either."

I just don't see the gender thing being that big of a deal. I am going ahead and putting a vote on you for now at least.

Epignosis wrote:

Polaris wrote:Mr. Epi, are real identies revealed in BTSC?

They are, even if I didn't want them to be.

Frustrating when people don't follow the rules. That has been happening a lot lately in games. Epignosis, are they being punished?

Avalanche wrote:I feel like we got off to a bad start. Let's begin again. Hi, I am Avalanche. Want to kill some Morlocks?

haha. If this was facebook I'd click "like".

Then again, this post pings me a bit.

Okay, caught up

I am interested in the ID thing as well. I do not think Epignosis would make a game mechanic like that that wouldn't mean anything at all. I mean, I am sure he loves watching us all squirm with wonder, but I would think it means something. Couldn't Polaris actually have some kind of of info but not be allowed to share it, or worse just choose not to share it?

About the gender thing, I do remember reading that it it illegal to share true identity even in BTSC.

Epignosis wrote:Please Read

3. No role outing of yourself or anyone else. No avatar outing (even in BTSC).

Avalanche wrote:

Spiral wrote:

The Vision wrote:Considering how many players are in this game, things are awfully quiet…

I, personally, don't have much to say. Avalanche certainly has quieted down, though.

I am pouting because I didn't get my way.

I think it is telling how people are trying to make me out as a villain for having a different opinion about the poll than everyone else. Personally, I will be looking at conformists today.

I think it is only because you were the most vocal about it. There were definitely many players who chose options other than the institute. Take Marrow for example. He has posted twice so far, twice!. His last post was to tell us.

Marrow wrote:I'm going with the spaceship, it seems the most practical.

To this, (early on in Day 0) I responded and asked him to explain why that option was the most practical. He never replied or said another word. I would still like to hear from him as to why the spaceship was the most practical option. I think it is players like these we should be looking at.

The Vision wrote:Considering how many players are in this game, things are awfully quiet…

I'm sorry I have not been very talkative. I have been out of commission today with a horrible migraine followed up with nausea - never had anything like it in my life. But I am feeling a bit better now after taking some Excedrin. I haven't had anything more powerful than ibuprofen in years. Anyway, I am able to open my eyes at least and sit up now, so I will use this time to catch up and share my thoughts.