The Syndicate

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Can I switch my vote to Epignosis, who is clearly the devil himself?

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And I have to leave in about two minutes lol.

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What Bathsheba said.

So many valuable townies. Also Rachel, Jeph, Job, Jonathan... I'll be gutted if it turns out it was Pilate.

Yes we have all voted.

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I didn't. I just voted Rahab. And I'm very sorry to the many civs who played this game if I am wrong.

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Oh, and one final shout out to Balaam. He may have been talking out of his ass for most of the game, but if we win his importance to that cannot be understated. I'd jsut say he was a lot important.

I really hope this goes the way we are hoping for.

@rahab - kermit?

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Pilate cast his vote and washed his hands of the whole thing.

Bathsheba watched on as her husband died and, after a long period of mourning, returned to take her vengeance on the heathen.

Lot's family turned to salt around him, but he remained faithful to the Lord...

and as the city of Jericho fell to the ground, so did the Lord say 'I thought there was one faithful amongst them, but I was wrong' and finished what he began...

I really hope you are the Judas, Rahab.

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Yes, Bathsheba, I'm here now...

Do you suppose the 'bath' is named after you?

I've finished off Pilate and there is nothing more to say other than that he called out Rahab's case on him and voted Esther yesterday...

I think it comes back to this basic thing...

Do we think Rahab and Esther made the play for the win yesterday and it failed?
Or do we think Esther and Pilate were playing the long game...

I think it's the first. If you are ready to vote Rahab, so am I.

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These two posts are a good reason why I saw that as genuine. And I really do have to have that shower now, so hopefully I can finish Pilate when I'm back.

Pilate wrote:
Stephen wrote:What a shame. RIP Absalom and Jonah.

This obviously is designed as a way to set up Samuel to look worse, killing his biggest accuser. Terrible idea. I don't buy it. Samuel is not bad.

However, I'm not really sure where to go from here. There are a lot of names which all could be wolves and they've hardly contributed to this game, Deborah, Malchus, Pilate, for example. I'm just not fully into the zone here, but nonetheless I don't believe we can catch a baddie solely on voting records, so I think we need to try to encourage discussion as much as possible today. I know I've been a fail lately on that front myself, but I have been trying to be vocal in my opinions.

Now look at Pilate's post and vote. Is this a power play by the remaining mafia or War or what the sodding hell is going on?

I will say that Esther's posts recently have been pinging me, can we talk about her?

Be back later!
I didn't fully suspect Uzziah based on any voting records. It was just how he acted, the things he said. I saw them as false, something a baddie woud do. That's why I'm voting Lot as well. I don't even know, or care too much about, his voting record. The records for each vote have been colourfully splayed across the thread every page or so, that's well known. Even the Heathens know it. They know it before they vote, and while they are voting. So, instead of voting for game advantage, they can plan their vote as a "what will look the best in the records" vote.

I'm not making a play, I'm just voting my biggest suspicion because I don't want to miss another vote. You don't have to bandwagon Lot based on my gut and my interpretation of his actions, just read what I said and decide for yourself if it is *truth* or if you feel differently. It wouldn't be good baddie behaviour if it were easy to spot.

Pilate wrote:I'm not making a "power play", that's really weird to say. I think Lot is bad, apparently that's somehow impossible, because Lot has done things that baddies absolutely cannot do. So I'm less informed than you maybe? I guess we'll see. I laid out why I find him suspicious, and I voted for him. That's how I usually play Mafia. If you would rather I play by jumping on the latest bandwagon, that's fine. That's not how Uzziah got lynched. If Lot wants to claim he just cannot be bad because *evidence*, then I'll say it too. I don't need to say it, clearly it has been said about me a lot before already. If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong, and it wouldn't be the first time. But to call my vote a "power play" is ridiculous, either you're a Civvie whose paranoia has gotten the better of you, or you're a baddie who wants to defend Lot or knows he's Civ and wants to look Civ.

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After that, Pilate went off on his "Lot is bad" tangent. Now, I dunno how good my nose for baddies is, but one thing I like to think I can sense is whether someone who is gunning for me really believes me to be bad or if they are faking. I always felt like Pilate really did think I was bad. Sure, I thought he wasn't reading the thread properly, but ultimately I thought his going after me was genuine.

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The Ruth stuff. First two posts look good for Pilate, the last does not at all.

Pilate wrote:Greetings, Ruth. I trust you will be a quiet little Heathen until we can get you back where you belong?

I would like to request a shortened Day tomorrow. We could lynch Ruth in four hours, no problem. Let's move this along, we don't need 48 hours to do this! That is, if there are no serious objections.

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Absalom wrote:Wow, people in this game sure like to overthink obvious things. I plan to vote for Ruth, because it's madness to assume she's somehow good now when there is no evidence to indicate that.
It is madness. I think Lot is bad for this "let Ruth live" talk.

And "If he's good, I die, if he's bad, I live"??? That's such baddie talk.

Pilate wrote:Sorry I missed the vote, I would have voted Ruth.

Does anyone know why the Chapters have restarted? Did we start a new Book?

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Posts from Pilate at Mordecai time. Sounds genuine to me, but it's not out of the question it could be throwing a teammate under the bus. It would be bold if it was.

Pilate wrote:I think it's not wise to make judgements on Isaac based on what the baddies do. That's giving the baddies all the power to shape what we think. That will usually end up bad, unless you pull some kind of 180 on the expected response.

I'm down with a Mordecai vote today, I've thought he was a little sketchy, and the vote record analysis was convincing enough.

OH, and I love the fact that I'm unimpeachable. Ha ha! Who woulda thunk, ol' Pilate would finally make good! Of course, I did give you guys your first baddie lynch, so I'm not surprised.

If the baddies wanna kill a trusted and confirmed Civ, then I'm a great choice.

Pilate wrote:Ninja vote time for Pilate. Sorry. I think that a Mordecai vote will give us some good information right now.

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I have read Pilate too but probably won't have time to make a full post about it. I'll try if I get a moment. I'm going to have a shower and may have to vote after that.

But, Pilate's biggest selling point in his favour for me isn't really his posting in the thread, it doesn't look that great particularly, but his vote for Mordecai on day 9 looks better than anything Rahab is done since the point where we know Judas must have been recruited.

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Rahab wrote:Lot, you said yourself you'd bet money (or something like it) that you know who I am behind the sock. If you're right, then you know that I am not a clumsy baddie. At all. My asset to my team when bad is to stay as inconspicuous and unnoticed as possible without being absent. Voting the way I have for what look like obvious "baddie saves" is far from inconspicuous - it's so obvious it hurts.

And for what it is worth, I haven't seen any of your votes as conspicuous until that one on Deborah day, and I believe we were at the point in endgame where the baddies might be feeling gambits would pay off. There is certainly nothing about your voting record that screams civilian. In fact, to me it screams 'clever' - you can't read much into it one way or the other.

But the Pilate vote on the Deborah day is the big one for me.

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Rahab flip flopped a bit on Uzz to start with and eventually voted him out on the day he died. As I've said before, this vote really looks civ to me in its timing and if Rahab is Judas I'm guessing she was recruited after day 5. So everything before that I'm not really looking at.

In fact, given there was no night between then and the lynching on day 7, I'm fairly happy with Rahab the whole way through there. However, what I'd say in any event is even if she is recruited I've rad it all and don't see anything in that time that could be considered as defending or going after any possible teammate except Uzz. She has kept her nose pretty clean on them.

Now we come to the Mordecai lynch. She says:

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All up, I'd say that looks like someone who wants to be seen as willing to give the eye to Mordecai but also just slightly defends him and certainly wasn't going to vote that way.

This post came after the re-stoning of Ruth and she calls out a number of potentially bad people. Rebecca, Lazarus, Pilate, Malchus, Samuel. No mention of Deborah or Esther. This is merely curious, a civ could do the same.

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Rahab wrote:I had a lot of this written earlier and meant to post last night, but I definitely fell asleep. So, here I am with some added stuff. It might be a bit long.

Where the hell did Rebecca come from? Voted second for Isaac, but hasn't posted in the thread since Day 7. Shady as fuck.

There are a lot of people that seem to be lying low and missing votes, and the missing voters this time surprised me. Well, except Malchus. Dunno where that guy's been. But Pilate and Lazarus missing the vote was weird as hell. Lazarus kinda fell on the back burner for me in the wake of my suspicions for Pilate, then Isaac (and the speculation of Lazarus' being Simon) but the missed vote and what I saw as shady before is coming back to mind. Why is/was he so adamant about lynching Lot? And where was he? He never explains himself.

And as for Samuel, I'm torn. On the one hand, there's this:
Samuel wrote:I understand why my vote looks bad, but the truth is I came in thinking I may have missed the vote, saw I had literally one minute and voted in a panic. If I were a heathen, it would have been really fucking stupid to out myself in such a way to save a confirmed teammate. And I am not sure that I would have voted any differently if I had not cast a panic vote at the last minute. I don't trust a Rez by a dead role with a win con I don't know, but that I know wasn't on my team. So I stand by my vote.
It would be a helluva risk for a baddie to perform this feat of tying up the vote not once, but twice in a game. But then again, we had Uzziah who openly rooted for the baddies, so it's not out of the question. I'm also often a sucker for emotional appeals, and Samuel seems genuinely pissed at the suspicion being thrown his way and has attempted to explain himself. However, there aren't any votes on him yet, just speculation, and emotional appeals have been used to manipulate civs, so...one can be very convincing in writing. Like others, I also would like to know what this Jonah speculation is, and don't really like the way Samuel said we'd "find out when he's lynched." So there's all that to consider.

Weird poll ending time. Technically I'm awake for it, but I'm a mean-spirited zombie in the morning so I'll be voting sometime later tonight before I go out most likely. Need more time to think. And food.

This was my biggest ping all game on Rahab:

Rahab wrote:Dammit, this game keeps me awake far too long.

Okay. So obviously Lot and Lazarus are forced to vote each other, which makes me wary to vote either (not that I ever strongly wanted to vote Lot, but Lazarus, sure. Not today though). I see the case on Deborah (in and out, voting record bad, trusting Pilate), but I find what looks like Pilate's power play against Lot (who I don't see as bad, logically or gut-wise) as superbad. Also, if one of the selling points against Deborah is her "trust" in Pilate, then why not go straight for the source? Either one could go but I feel worse about Pilate, especially the vibes in this last cycle.

Ahhh sleep now.

This really does read as an attempt to save Deborah, and I explained afterwards that Deborah using 'trust in Pilate' as her excuse speaks worse about Deb than about Pilate. I don't even know why I would vote Pilate based on something Deborah did? This is kind of face value the most mafia-looking thing I think Rahab has said. She defended her vote afterwards saying she had no good options (perhaps it could be seen that way) - however, her post explaining her rationale looks worse than the vote itself.

And after that came the end game, where she and Esther both went after Pilate which I think we all remember pretty clearly.

All in all, that still leads me to end with Rahab.

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Rahab wrote:People seem to be turning on Rachel.

The inner mind of a prostitute, I guess!

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Bathsheba, I hope you are around for the next little bit, because I don't have much longer before I have to vote and it would be good to be sure we both definitely end up on the same page. I don't want to force your hand.

Stephen is one guy whose attitudes would be interesting because he called out a few baddies successfully this game.

I'm now reading Rahab.

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There is literally nothing in the Mordecai reread about Pilate or Rahab.

What I will say, though, having read all the known heathen back, is that there is no evidence of any one of them ever going after another one of them in the thread. The worst that ever happens is a little mild suspicion that never goes anywhere.

So if it is Pilate, then the Esther/Pilate thing is unique in the way the baddies played the game. That could, however, be because Esther suspected Pilate before they were teammates, so it's not impossible. Still, Rahab being bad fits better with their overall MO.

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Also, Rahab, if I do know who you are then you are a sly dog who knows how to win when bad and that fits the bill for Rahab entirely

I'm just reading Mordecai.

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I love this game!

I love how the work both of you, Pilate and Rahab, put in to your point of view.

And honestly I can say that no matter which of you is Judas, and no matter which of you I vote for, you've both played a phenomenal game (especially whichever of you is bad) and made this vote very nervewracking for me.

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Everything I'm reading has me leaning the same way. It's going to take a pretty convincing argument to change my mind at this point, I'd say, but it really depends on whether Bathsheba is equally convinced.

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What does Esther have to say about Rahab?

Well, nothing before the time of recruitment. After that...

Esther wrote:
Rahab wrote:
Also, not that I feel particularly strongly about it, but I was thinking about it on the way home from work: Bathsheba has had an unusual "replacement" situation if she was indeed replaced. She's still up on the poll, and there was no host announcement of her replacement, which is generally the norm. I thought it was weird when Esther asked her where she'd been when Bathsheba had just explained it, but then I considered that slim possibility that Bathsheba 2.0 could be Bathsheba 1.0 sneaking her way back into the game.
THIS. SO THIS! I was wondering if anyone else was thinking this. I did talk about how if someone is replaced that they are not able to be lynched/killed for a whole phase. Then, I think Absalom said something like...well she is on the poll. I think she has to be faking it. I bet she was a baddie laying low and now she feels she needs to step up her game, come out of the woodwork and actually play. And I know she "better explains" in another post but I just don't think its genuine. She also says this:

Esther wrote:Rahab's posts are few, but helpful. And in that statement a light just came on. I think I know who she may be behind the sock! Haha.

Esther wrote:I see Lot's perspective on Rahab being #2, but I have had bad feelings about Pilate ALL game and this is actually some evidence to back up my gut.

All in all, a read of Esther has me heavily leaning towards a vote for Rahab.

For Esther and Pilate to be bad means that they had to have planned a long time in advance that this is how it would look if one of them came back bad. Which would be a really clever move well played. But Esther's defence here of Rahab also looks a bit like she is teamies with Rahab.

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All Esther's posts on Pilate - there are a lot. It should be said, too, that Esther REALLY goes after Pilate - in a way we have not seen a single baddie go after another baddie in this game. The most important thing about this suspicion is that it never lets up, there is never any bend in it at all, no point in time at which a recruit might change her perspective. She could easily have let up at some point and gone in another direction if Pilate was a teammate.

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Esther wrote:My thoughts are that Pilate is playing very oddly. It seems like he could be a new player almost, but then he said this:

Pilate wrote:I'm shocked that I don't have more suspicion by now. So this is the life of an unforgivably low poster.
That statement makes me think he is a seasoned player who usually posts much more than he has this game. Pilate is probably my #1 suspicion right now.

My next two suspicions are Uzziah and Job. I hate to see the back and forth continue on between then just because we are all confused on which of the two to lynch. I think one of them is most likely bad, I just can't put my finger on which. I have voted for Job previously, but reading back I am thinking Uzziah might be the one that needs to go.

linki: Well, apparently Rachel is NOT confused and thinks its Job that is bad between the two. And, fwiw, I think Rachel is good So maybe I should trust her.

Esther wrote:Maybe those of you that said it are right about Pilate just being lazy, not bad. But I don't think his posts can be compared to Mary as someone said. Mary was more non-existent. Pilates post are decidedly odd. Also, every player is different. Mary's lynch may not have turned out like we wanted, but that doesn't mean a quiet, odd Pilate is positively civ. It could still go either way.

Esther wrote:It's good to look at voting records and I appreciate all the work some of you have done looking into them and reporting your findings. However I I cannot get past Pilate's posts.

Absalom wrote:
Pilate wrote:Epignosis is bigger than Jesus!

Absalom was part of Uzziah's scheme, as I laid out before. He is a Heathen teammate. That's how these schemes work. *votes Absalom*
What trickery is this?

Here's the post where you "laid it out" before.

Pilate wrote:Go ahead and vote me, Isaac, if you wish. I'm a Civ.

Deborah wrote:@Pilate, I'm still catching up, but can you expand on your vote post? So Uzziah says he thinks you and Absalom are civvie, so you think they are bad for it? That's quite confusing, tbh.
Uzziah has no reason to think I'm Civ. How could anyone "read" me as Civ with the way I've been playing. Hardly here, and when I am here, I say sketchy things.

He knows I'm Civ because he is bad. He's planting seeds so that if I get lynched and flip Civ, he looks good... and if he gets lynched and flips bad, I look bad.

If Uzziah were lynched and flipped bad, the intention is for people to return to this post and read it with the knowledge that he's bad. So then Absalom and I look bad. I'm more likely to be lynched than Absalom, that's my opinion anyway. So then I flip Civ, and Absalom isn't an instant target anymore. Maybe even thought of as Civ for it. Could be a distancing thing between Uzziah and Absalom, both baddies. Maybe not, it's my theory.

And yeah, I forgot to vote in the poll earlier. I saw the 'suaded post, and I was like "damn, I forgot!" and went and completed the vote as I had intended to.
You go from "oh it's my theory, maybe not, shrug" to "He is a Heathen teammate" in two posts. Why the sudden increase in certainty? I don't fully understand the convolutions of your theory, but I think it's fairly obvious that I cannot be Uzziah's teammate.
Weak! So weak, Pilate. I am voting Pilate.

Esther wrote:Alright folks. I know I have been mostly quiet. But like I said, I am an observer in the beginning of full games. I think I can now come forth with my first true suspicion. Pilate.

His behavior in the thread has lead me to reread his posts from start to finish (which didn't take very long actually).

First of all, he missed Day 0 entirely - didn't post, didn't vote. He comes in Day 1 and says he didn't realize the game had started. So, for over 48 hours he was oblivious that the game had started? Unlikely. He comes in on Day 1 and is the 6th person to vote altogether, but first to vote for Uzziah. Well, Uzz was bad you say? Yes, but Uzz had no votes at the time. Lot had 1 vote at the time, Samuel had 2. I see Pilate's Day 1 vote for a teammate as trying to gain civ cred.

Day 2 - Says if he would have he would have voted Marth Day 2 (but he couldn't 'cause she was then dead). In the same post he says he is still suspicious of Uzz and will probably vote him, but ends up voting Job (Uzz' rival) instead.

Day 3 - misses vote entirely

Day 4 - Votes Rachel. He quotes a case made from Belshazzar and jumps on that train. However, the case that Belsh made wasn't very convincing enough for anyone else or even for Belsh himself as he voted Uzz that day (Belsh did, I mean). I think Pilate was just looking for something to grasp onto so he could keep from voting his own beloved Uzz.

Pilate wrote:I'm shocked that I don't have more suspicion by now. So this is the life of an unforgivably low poster.
This is where my suspicion of Pilate began. This post here made me look into him in the first place. It looks like he is trying to hard to apologize for not being helpful to the cause of getting baddies.

Day 5 - Pilate talks about how he'd been MIA. He wonders where the suspicion of Rachel went.

Pilate wrote:Uzziah has no reason at all to think I'm Civ, unless he's bad.

Pilate wrote:How could anyone "read" me as Civ with the way I've been playing. Hardly here, and when I am here, I say sketchy things.

These quote stands out to me. He admits his behavior thus far should be seen as baddie behavior. I think that he thinks by admitting this we will think he is civ, but not me. And I think he uses the first quote to distance from Uzz again as he is the first to vote for him and the first to vote altogether if you don't count host/non/dead option. It bit him in the ass, however when people began to follow his crazy behavior and Uzz got the most votes that day.

Day 6 - Now he just plays dumb.

Pilate wrote:What happened to the night? We lynched Uzziah, and went straight into another lynch?
AND...he votes for Absalom, the first to vote for his teammate, Ruth.

Pilate will most likely get my vote today.

Esther wrote:HAHA....I didn't even see Pilate's most recent post until now. "good job guys, maybe Absalom is okay afterall." Yeah, maybe :P

Esther wrote:I voted for Pilate as I said I probably would.

Esther wrote:
Absalom wrote:
Pilate
Day 1: First vote for Uzziah when the highest vote-taker has two. Incredibly ballsy Day 1 play if bad.
Day 2: Missed.
Day 3: Missed.
Day 4: First vote for Rachel.
Day 5: First vote for Uzziah. Clears him in my mind.
Day 6: First vote for me.
Day 7: Second vote for Jonathan.
Day 8: First vote for Jonathan.

Observations
Pilate is unimpeachable.
What do you mean he's unimpeachable?

Esther wrote:Belsh, Balaam, Lot, I appreciate your most recent analyses. I have just skimmed them as of now but will fully read it all by the end of today in time for the lynch. I still think Pilate is bad as I have stated a case on him before. I will read him individually again as well and see if there is anything to add.

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Lot wrote:So Isaac's response to my case is a self-vote.

Stuff like that is frustrating.

I voted Lazarus at the very start of the day. I did mention it (at least I'm pretty sure I did).
I agree. If you are civ, try and defend yourself at least. Help our your team, you know. Don't just give up!

Pilate wrote:I think that a Mordecai vote will give us some good information right now.
Maybe, but I don't trust you at all, so......

Balaam wrote:
Who is everyone's top three suspects right now? Here are mine:

1. Jacob
2. Deborah
3. Mordecai
I feel more strongly about who I trust more easily than say who I suspect. That said,

1. Pilate
2. Isaac
3. Jacob
and I am going to add 4.Mordy only b/c his vote record. I think he's been pretty helpful in the thread though. I have seen civs have shitty voting records and get lynched b/c of it.

Esther wrote:Bah! I got logged out and lost my whole post!

Belshazzar wrote:
I don't see what's so scummy about Balaam's post. Since I'm not one of them, it's perfectly true that the Heathens will wagon or even push for my lynch. I'll get lynched, they will get to night kill, player field reduced by two.

I'll just say that I agree with this. And other than Absalom, I have had my eye on the players that have voted for Belsh already (Jacob, Pilate, Isaac). I just don't see how Belsh is Heathen. I am voting Pilate. Again.

Esther wrote:RIP Abs and Jonah. Absalom, you contributed so much, I'm surprised you stuck around as long as you did.

I am sorry I can't remember everything about the game Bathsheba, but I find as we get to fewer people I am able to keep up a lot better. I'm sorry I accused you of not telling the truth about being replaced. I hope we can be friends

So, going forward. I don't see the see the suspicion on Lot at all. I have been pinged by Pilate the whole game and now that he is trying to drum up suspicion on Lot makes him look more suspicious IMO. I think Lot looks and acts very civ.

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Stephen wrote:Thanks, Lot. I would agree with you that Rahab is the #2 after Rebecca, but what do you make of Pilate spearheading the move against you this past lynch? That's what put him above Rahab for me.
I see Lot's perspective on Rahab being #2, but I have had bad feelings about Pilate ALL game and this is actually some evidence to back up my gut.

Esther wrote:Wow. I am shocked. And I agree, I wish Rebecca would have cared enough to at least defend herself. What a wasted lynch. I'm most likely to vote Pilate next, but I am sure that goes without saying.

Esther wrote:I am getting the ball rolling here. I am voting Pilate. Again. I really think he is the the one who ought to go today.

Esther wrote:
Lot wrote:
I'd sooner figure out who is bad through actual analysis than guess and hope for the best.
But your analysis said absolutely nothing. You went back and forth contradicting yourself sometimes even within the same post. I have been saying Pilate is bad news all game. I've stated cases on his voting record and gave an "actual analysis" of his behavior. I didn't waver or contradict myself when I did it either. I thought you were good just about all game. But in the past couple phases, you have just been acting weird. Maybe you lost your confidence in a heathen win and you are just showing your fear through your posts. I am starting to wonder if the last two baddies are Pilate and YOU.

Esther wrote:My voting record was brought up. Lot says I look bad b/c I vote early or late. First of all, I wouldn't say I vote "early", I would say i vote before most of the others. I don't like to bandwagon. I think its cheap. I think for myself, decide who I see as bad and I go for it. There is nothing wrong with that. The times I voted late (I think it was once or twice) it was b/c RL stuff. Lot says my voted never really MEANT anything. Sure they did. They pointed to my opinion of who was bad. So Lot, are you saying my opinions are worthless?

Pilate wrote:
You can count on me to vote for Rahab or Esther. I won't choose now, but I will not split the vote between those two when I do vote... just mentioning it so that someone else can be confident in casting the first vote.
This is shit. You just don't want to look bad if the person you vote for is civ. So, you are going to vote late and bandwagon.

Esther wrote:
Lot wrote:As I said to Bathsheba - everyone alive I trusted.

I trusted you
I trusted Rahab
I trusted Pilate
I trusted Samuel

I was wrong about someone. Probably two someones.

That's why I needed to revisit voting records and thread reads. By the way, I did that for everyone who I did the voting record of, I just posted the things on you because I think you came out looking worst.

I'm not 'so confident' - not in any way. But your posts today make me feel a lot better about our chances.
I understand. I still think your posts were ridiculously contradictory and that your analysis of my vote record was poor. But, I guess I am not convincing you to vote pilate over me. Its time for me to do the dinner thing. But, for civ sake, look over me and Pilate one more time. Please. I think you will see Pilate is the way to go today.

Like - if Pilate actually is bad after all of that.... wow!

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Reading Esther - pretty good case there for why Bathsheba is not Judas, as well. About to post more on Esther.

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Pilate, I've read more than I've posted so far, but I'm feeling pretty decent about you so far. I read back all of your posts and I will post some of them but I think they point to you being good. I also think Esther's approach to you points to you being good.

One thing that could be useful, if you have time, though... is to look at Bathsheba for yourself and see what you come back with. I want to make sure I'm not being short-sighted there.

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"total sentence" lol!!! total sense, that is.

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Lol Pilate. That makes total sentence, given was Lazarus was regularly, shall we say, not so clever.

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That's me for now, I need to get some things done.

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In what is becoming a pattern, Deborah has a lot to say about Pilate and a lot less to say about Rahab, and it is all essentially before the point at which we know Judas is bad anyway... here is the Pilate stuff.

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Deborah wrote:I'm not liking the case against Rachel. Yes, her opinion of List Man seems a bit wishy washy, as she criticized someone else for the same opinion earlier, but it doesn't mean she's necessarily bad. Reading all of her other posts, I see a fairly active player who is making sense.

Pilate, however, in jumping on the Rachel thing, feels off.

I'm running out of time for my catchup but I feel like I'm getting back a handle on the game.

Deborah wrote:Isaac (both 1.0 and 2.0) read as civ, to me. I won't be looking in that direction today.

@Pilate, I'm still catching up, but can you expand on your vote post? So Uzziah says he thinks you and Absalom are civvie, so you think they are bad for it? That's quite confusing, tbh.

Deborah wrote:Pilate reads more as a neutral read... more posts mentioning topics than a lot of players including myself, but they feel a bit like commenting on topics rather than engaging with them. Like, Pilate mentions suspicions and people of interest without really getting in there and contributing real thoughts. And this last post is WTF to me. I await a reply about it, as it's bizarre.

Deborah wrote:@Pilate, I just read through your posts. You seem a bit scattered to me, not very on point, but there is nothing there that says baddie, to me. I can see from your tone that you aren't happy with your own play, and i'vebeen there myself, but it doesn't mean you read like a baddie, so I'm not understanding your black & white issues with Uzzi's post.

Like, if Uzziah is lynched and is good OR bad, I don't think in either case I would think of you? No offence, I hope? A declaration of thinking someone is civ isn't a sign of baddieness, I think in my catchup posts today I said that about at least 3 people so far. If they get lynched, will people instantly think of me?

I don't have any real conclusion to pull fro your thoughts on this, I'm just really confused by it all.

Deborah wrote:Why did Pilate and Lazarus just make identical posts? ??? WTF?

Deborah wrote:Im being pushy because I don't have time to be patient. Fact is, this feels like a slip up to me. But at the same time, Pilate pushed hard against Uzziah didn't he? I think that two could be horsemen, but that's not really the target. .. g a h.

Deborah wrote:
Jonathan wrote:
Deborah wrote:Im being pushy because I don't have time to be patient. Fact is, this feels like a slip up to me. But at the same time, Pilate pushed hard against Uzziah didn't he? I think that two could be horsemen, but that's not really the target. .. g a h.
What makes you think horseman instead of heathen?
Pilate was strongly against uzziah. Whatever he is, he can't be a heathen. Unless he gunned for his own teammate with little provocation. I don't think it's likely.

Deborah wrote:I don't see a case on Pilate at all, reading through his posts. He seems to have been putting pressure on both Uzziah and Mordecai, so I'm wondering why he has a vote?

Deborah wrote:
Pilate wrote:
Lot wrote:Well, put it this way. Ruth voted for Isaac 4th yesterday, putting him in a position where there was a genuine chance he would be lynched instead of her. Why would the heathen team risk lynching someone no-one knows is heathen instead of someone we already know is?

Samuel's view on Isaac persuades me more about Samuel's mindset than about Isaac actually being bad.
Ruth would vote that way in order to distance herself from Isaac. The genuine chance he could be lynched is what makes it smart distancing, the risk element makes it that much more convincing.

I think that Isaac and Lot are both bad. I'll vote Isaac this time.
The point about the Mordecai/Isaac tie is solid, Mordy's vote makes no sense if they aren't teamies. That, and while I know I haven't made a ton of posts in this game, I've got a decent sense of who I think is trustworthy, and Pilate is one of them, so Isaac is getting my vote again.

Here is the Rahab quote:

Deborah wrote:Rahab has little output, but what is there is roughly neutral, nothing really pinged me but nothing soot dout as civvie, either. At least she's around.

Ruth is a bit wishy-washy for me. Lots of posts at the start with lots of jokey day 0 banter, but since then, Ruth has participated but often only on the bigger cases of the moment. It doesn't necessarily point to baddieness, I know that when life is in the way sometimes it is hard to comment past the bigger stuff, but it's still worth pointing out.

I haven't yet found anything better than Malchus/Lazarus for my vote today.

Well, this is a lot different to the first two.

Deborah's posts on Pilate could be the smoking gun...

She stars off neutral reading him and asking him questions...

Later, she defends him quite heavily.

She virtually ignores Rahab altogether, but has quite a strong focus on Pilate throughout her posts.

What to make of this?

Well, her approach with Rahab mirrors her approach with Esther exactly.

But I dunno about her turn on Pilate. A good thing? A bad thing? When I wanted to see Deborah lynched, my perspective on her 'trusting Pilate' was that it reflected badly on her, but actually reflected pretty good on Pilate. Now I'm second guessing that. Hmm...

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Ruth expressed some suspicion of Pilate in her first life.

Ruth wrote:My opinion of Balaam is colored at this minute by that question. I missed it, shoot me. Jeez. If Job flips civ, I can see that being possible.

He did get my attention earlier with this:

Ruth wrote:
Balaam wrote:
Ruth wrote:Sorry Mary. I did not want to force a tie and have a no lynch, and I guess even if I had voted my gut and went with Uzziah, he still would not have been lynched with the last few votes.

I have been pretty much afk most of this game, so I doubt Noah will take me. I just hope Noah is an active person who will actually send in his PM
Who said anything about tie votes resulting in no lynch?
Ties resulting in no lynch is something this host has done fairly regularly in the past if he does not have a tie breaker role.

If there is one, I missed it.
He jumped on me for something that I don;t even understand what the issue was. It just feels like an attempt to make a nothing into a something.

I also am a bit wary of Pilate. The little Deborah has said was incredibly blendy. My opinion of several people will be based on how Job flips.

Linki, Jeph, he sounds frustrated to me. Been there, done that myself. But I have to say I also feel Rachel sounds like she believes what shes saying. So if Job does flip civ, I am not ready to turn on Rachel.

Linki @ Judah, that's a pretty good point.

Her second life, though, had some curious exchanges that make Pilate look a little better.

Pilate wrote:Greetings, Ruth. I trust you will be a quiet little Heathen until we can get you back where you belong?

I would like to request a shortened Day tomorrow. We could lynch Ruth in four hours, no problem. Let's move this along, we don't need 48 hours to do this! That is, if there are no serious objections.

Ruth wrote:I object. I have 48 hours to convince you I am reformed. I shall have it

And I live with my mother in law, you should read my book; I am about loyalty. But I still can't get a word in edgewise with that blessed woman; I intend to talk quite extensively, Pilate.

Ruth wrote:I am considering several possible votes. I like the thoughts on Isaac. Wasn't he my competition for my last lynch, too? I find Lots points on Lazarus intriguing. The whole Bathsheba replacing herself thing is too esoteric even for me.

It's interesting that Pilate was so gung ho to lynch me that he did not even want to give me a chance to speak my piece (whatcha scared of there, Pilate?) but no vote yet?

Again, as far as I noticed, no mention of Rahab at all.

Snapshot

Uzz had nothing to say about Rahab, but did have this exchange with Pilate (before we got to day 9, of course).

Uzziah wrote:
Balaam wrote:Found this during my re-read:
Uzziah wrote:
[color=#FF00FF]Job[/color] wrote:
Uzziah wrote:I admit I may have been somewjat ambiguous on purpous. I'm just zany and fun like that! The above is the root meaning though, is it not?

So are you going to share any thoughts on anyone besides myself, Paul and Cain or are you going to continue to be unhelpful and further verify that you're bad? I don't believe you used that definition of the word for even a second.
I'd rather have one of you lynched first and go from there.
You got your wish and then some. They're all dead now, so where do you propose we go now? :P
I would suggest we pick a trustworthy leader (I nominate myself) who will randomize between everyone who is not Absalom or Pilate, for it seems to me that those two are being subtly framed by the baddies.

Incidentally I'm still glad that Job is dead, as he was clearly leading us into lynching each other. He may have had a civvie role but in actuality he was no better than Paul.

Uzziah wrote:I find it curious that both Pilate and Absalom vote for me right after I defend them. However Stephen is acting even more sketchy so that's where my vote goes.

Uzziah wrote:
Pilate wrote:
Uzziah wrote:I find it curious that both Pilate and Absalom vote for me right after I defend them. However Stephen is acting even more sketchy so that's where my vote goes.
Curious indeed.
I see . . . I'm being framed! When I flip civ everyone will think Pilate is bad and not vote for Absalom!

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Bathsheba wrote:Lot do you remember anyone building cases on either Pilate or Rahab?

Not off the top of my head. I do remember some stuff about Pilate being a teammate of Uzziah back around day 7 or 8, which I want to track down.

Snapshot

I do think one thing it's worth doing and I probably will try to if I get time is rereading all the known heathen and seeing what their attitudes towards Rahab and Pilate were and if those attitudes ever changed.

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Bathsheba wrote:I also think it looks good for Pilate that Esther voted for him and it looked like Rahab was wound up to vote for him but voted Esther in the end because she was gone anyway and he thought it might help his cred. (that last part was conjecture taken from the facts)

Yeah, I agree that looks good, but there are still two possible explanations in my mind for yesterday...

One is Esther/Rahab made a play to win yesterday and it failed.
One is Esther/Pilate decided to make a play to let one of them die but at least take Rahab out the day after and win.

Both of those are possibilities I think.

Snapshot

Also, I'm not reading anything into the Samuel kill. Rahab would kill him because his mind seemed made up. Pilate would kill him to make it look like Rahab.

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Bathsheba, I agree. If you've suckered me then well played, but I'm pretty confident in my reasoning for why you can't be Judas. We can share the workload on this, vote together (since I don't have to vote Lazarus!!! YAY!) and just hope we figure it out.

Snapshot

I've removed day 1 for each (no conversion before then), and put the rest into green for 'could still be civ' and red for 'must be heathen'.

Rahab

Day 2 - Vote 6 on Cain, Uzz had 3 (could work as civ or heathen BUT interesting flip from the day before)
Day 3 - Vote 4 on Uzz, MM had 5 (looks civ)
Day 4 - Vote 2 on Lazarus (could be either)
Day 5 - Vote 7 on Uzz, Jeph on 3 (There is a sudden bandwagon as all the other heathen get on. Rahab is right in the middle of it)
Day 6 - Vote 2 on Pilate, Ruth on 4, Rachel on 3 (leans more civ than heathen, but could still work as a heathen save)
Day 7 - Vote 2 on Pilate, Jonathan on 3, Rebecca on 2 (could be either, no accountability)
Day 8 - Vote 1 on Jacob, Jonathan on 4 (no accountability for Jonathan lynch)
Day 9 - Vote 3 Isaac, Mordecai on 2 (save of Mordecai)
Day 10 - Vote 2 on Isaac, Belshazzar on 4 (no accountability for 'civ' lynch, consistency)
Day 11 - Vote 1 on Isaac, Ruth on 3 (consistency, Ruth save)
Day 12 - Vote 6 on Isaac, Rahab on 2 (votes very late, safe vote)
Day 13 - Vote 1 on Pilate, Deborah on 3, Lot on 2. (She could have voted to save me given her confidence in me, she agreed with the case on Deborah (apparently) so why vote Pilate?? This is Rahab's worst looking vote for me).
Day 14 - Vote 5 on Rebecca, after she is going down. (meaningless)
Day 15 - Vote 4 on Esther, after she is lynched (could be interpreted as waiting to see if she and Esther could pull off a Pilate lynch).

Pilate

Day 2 - missed vote
Day 3 - missed vote
Day 4 - Vote 1 on Rachel (first vote all up, not meaningful)
Day 5 - Vote 1 for Uzz, first vote all up. Uzz lynched. (Good, but not amazingly good because his vote timing doesn't clear him)
Day 6 - Vote 1 for Absalom, Ruth at 2 (not great)
Day 7 - Vote 2 on Jonathan, Pilate at 1 (self-defence, this was at the time when people were linking Pilate to Uzz)
Day 8 - Vote 1 for Jonathan (not great, but essentially meaningless)
Day 9 - Vote 2 for Mordecai, noone else at more than 1 (this looks good for Pilate)
Day 10 - Vote 3 for Belshazzar (meaningless)
Day 11 - missed vote (crucial day for missing a vote! Not so good for Pilate)
Day 12 - Vote 3 for Isaac, one on Rahab (doesn't look good for Pilate, but I admit in the thread he thought I was evil and didn't want to listen to me)
Day 13 - Vote 1 for Lot (looks bad again, but see above)
Day 14 - Vote 4 for Rebecca (meaningless)
Day 15 - Vote 1 for Esther (looks pretty decent - also he thought he was vote two)

These two voting records both have high points and low points for each. Based on them alone I do (as I did yesterday) lean slightly more towards Rahab being bad than Pilate. I think the thread is probably the most revealing part.

Snapshot

Here is what I have so far. Judas was probably a civilian to begin with, and became a heathen either a) by being activated by another disciple or b) by being found by the heathen. Either way, I assume that his conversion happened during the night and was only notified at dawn.

Judas killed Balaam on Night X. There was no night IX, so the latest Judas was probably converted was night VIII (8). That means I think all lynch votes from day 9 onwards, it's a good bet Judas is on the side of the heathen, but anything before that we do not know what side Judas was on.

Snapshot

Thank you Judas, whoever you are. I'm grateful for the opportunity to be involved in this day, no matter how it should play out.

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This is it - the final technicolour list. The one that hopefully helps point to our Judas. I'm sure none of you will be disappointed that this is the last of them.

DAY 1 RESULTS:

1. SAMUEL (Paul)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
2. SAMUEL (Samson)<---voter = civvie
3. LOT (Gideon)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
4. UZZIAH (Pilate)
5. REBECCA (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
6. PAUL (Martha)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
7. BARNABAS (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
8. UZZIAH (Job) <---voter = civvie
9. SAMSON (Mordecai) <===VOTER = HEATHEN
10. SAMSON (Mary Mag)<---voter = civvie
11. ABSALOM (Cain)<---voter = civvie
12. CAIN (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
13. CAIN (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
14. SAMSON (Isaac)<---voter = civvie
15. SAMSON (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
16. JEPHTHA (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
17. ABSALOM (Malchus)<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously
18. SAMSON (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
19. MARY MAG (Jonah)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)
20. SAMSON (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
21. SAMSON (Samuel)
22. CAIN (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
23. JEPHTHAH (Lot)
24. PAUL (Nicodemus)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
25. CAIN (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
26. GIDEON (Hagar)<---voter was the civvie smited after our first 3 civ stonings
27. MARY MAG (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
28. UZZIAH (Rahab)
29. CAIN (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens

Not Voting: Barnabas, Bathsheba, Esther, Judah, Lazarus

DAY 1 RESULTS (alternate format):

9. SAMSON (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
10. SAMSON (Mary Mag)<---voter = civvie
14. SAMSON (Isaac)<---voter = civvie
15. SAMSON (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
18. SAMSON (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
20. SAMSON (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
21. SAMSON (Samuel)

12. CAIN (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
13. CAIN (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
22. CAIN (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
25. CAIN (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
29. CAIN (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens

4. UZZIAH (Pilate)
8. UZZIAH (Job) <---voter = civvie
28. UZZIAH (Rahab)

1. SAMUEL (Paul)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
2. SAMUEL (Samson)<---voter = civvie

6. PAUL (Martha)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
24. PAUL (Nicodemus)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens

11. ABSALOM (Cain)<---voter = civvie
17. ABSALOM (Malchus)<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously

16. JEPHTHA (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
23. JEPHTHAH (Lot)

19. MARY MAG (Jonah)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)
27. MARY MAG (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie

3. LOT (Gideon)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens

5. REBECCA (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens

7. BARNABAS (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens

26. GIDEON (Hagar)<---voter was the civvie smited after our first 3 civ stonings

Not Voting:
Barnabas
Bathsheba
Esther<===VOTER = HEATHEN
Judah<---voter was the civvie smote after our second 3 civ stonings
Lazarus<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning

Day 2 Results:

1. JOB (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
2. UZZIAH (Job)<---voter = civvie
3. JOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
4. CAIN (Paul)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
5. CAIN (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
6. CAIN (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
7. CAIN (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
8. CAIN (Malchus)<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously
9. UZZIAH (Lot)
10. CAIN (Rahab)
11. STEPHEN (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
12. CAIN (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
13. JEPHTHAH (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
14. ABSALOM (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
15. UZZIAH (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
16. CAIN (Bathsheba)

Not Voting: Barnabas (2), Cain, Esther (2), Gideon, Hagar, Isaac, Jacob, Jephthah, Jonah, Judah (2), Mary Mag, Mordecai, Nicodemus, Pilate, Ruth, Samuel

DAY 2 RESULTS (alternate format):

4. CAIN (Paul)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
5. CAIN (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
6. CAIN (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
7. CAIN (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
8. CAIN (Malchus)<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously
10. CAIN (Rahab)
12. CAIN (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
16. CAIN (Bathsheba)

2. UZZIAH (Job)<---voter = civvie
9. UZZIAH (Lot)
15. UZZIAH (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie

1. JOB (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
3. JOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens

11. STEPHEN (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens

13. JEPHTHAH (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie

14. ABSALOM (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning

Not Voting:
Barnabas (2)
Cain<---voter = civvie
Esther (2)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
Gideon<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
Hagar<---voter was the civvie smited after our first 3 civ stonings
Isaac<---voter = civvie
Jacob<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
Jephthah<---voter = civvie
Jonah<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)
Judah (2)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings
Mary Mag<---voter = civvie
Mordecai<===VOTER = HEATHEN
Nicodemus<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
Pilate
Ruth<===VOTER = HEATHEN
Samuel

DAY 3 Results:

1. UZZIAH (Job)<---voter = civvie
2. JOB (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
3. RACHEL (Lot)
4. RACHEL (Mary Mag)<---voter = civvie
5. UZZIAH (Nicodemus)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
6. LAZARUS (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
7. JOB (Isaac)<---voter = civvie
8. RAHAB (Jonah)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)
9. UZZIAH (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
10. MARY MAG (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
11. LAZARUS (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
12. LAZARUS (Gideon)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
13. MARY MAG (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
14. MARY MAG (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
15. MARY MAG (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
16. MARY MAG (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
17. JOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
18. JOB (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
19. ABSALOM (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
20. UZZIAH (Rahab)
21. MARY MAG (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
22. MARY MAG (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens

Day 3 Not Voting: Barnabas (3), Bathsheba (2), Hagar (2), Judah (3), Malchus, Pilate (2), Samuel (2), Stephen

DAY 3 RESULTS (alternate format):

10. MARY MAG (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
13. MARY MAG (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
14. MARY MAG (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
15. MARY MAG (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
16. MARY MAG (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
21. MARY MAG (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
22. MARY MAG (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens

1. UZZIAH (Job)<---voter = civvie
5. UZZIAH (Nicodemus)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
9. UZZIAH (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
20. UZZIAH (Rahab)

2. JOB (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
7. JOB (Isaac)<---voter = civvie
17. JOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
18. JOB (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

6. LAZARUS (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
11. LAZARUS (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
12. LAZARUS (Gideon)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens

3. RACHEL (Lot)
4. RACHEL (Mary Mag)<---voter = civvie

8. RAHAB (Jonah)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)

19. ABSALOM (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning

Day 3 Not Voting:
Barnabas (3)
Bathsheba (2)
Hagar (2)<---voter was the civvie smited after our first 3 civ stonings
Judah (3)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings
Malchus<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously
Pilate (2)
Samuel (2)
Stephen<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens

DAY 4 Results:

1. RACHEL (Pilate)
2. JOB (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
3. BALAAM (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
4. BALAAM (Nicodemus)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
5. ABSALOM (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
6. JOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
7. BALAAM (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
8. JOB (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
9. JOB (Jonah)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)
10. JOB (Samuel)
11. LAZARUS (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
12. JOB (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
13. UZZIAH (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
14. LAZARUS (Rahab)
15. RACHEL (Job)<---voter = civvie
16. BALAAM (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
17. JOB (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
18. JOB (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
19. BALAAM (Judah)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings
20. DEBORAH (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
21. JOB (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN

Not Voting: Barnabas (4), Bathsheba (3), Isaac (2), Jacob (2), Lot, Malchus (2)

DAY 4 RESULTS (alternate format):

2. JOB (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
6. JOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
8. JOB (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
9. JOB (Jonah)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)
10. JOB (Samuel)
12. JOB (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
17. JOB (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
18. JOB (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
21. JOB (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN

3. BALAAM (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
4. BALAAM (Nicodemus)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
7. BALAAM (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
16. BALAAM (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
19. BALAAM (Judah)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings

1. RACHEL (Pilate)
15. RACHEL (Job)<---voter = civvie

11. LAZARUS (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
14. LAZARUS (Rahab)

5. ABSALOM (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning

13. UZZIAH (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

20. DEBORAH (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

Not Voting:
Barnabas (4)
Bathsheba (3)
Isaac (2)<---voter = civvie
Jacob (2)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
Lot
Malchus (2)<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously

DAY 5 Results:

1. UZZIAH (Pilate)
2. JEPHTHAH (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
3. UZZIAH (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
4. UZZIAH (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
5. SAMUEL (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
6. UZZIAH (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
7. STEPHEN (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
8. JEPHTHAH (Lot)
9. UZZIAH (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
10. JEPHTHAH (Samuel)
11. SAMUEL (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
12. UZZIAH (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
13. ABSALOM (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
14. UZZIAH (Rahab)
15. JEPHTHAH (Isaac)<---voter = civvie
16. UZZIAH (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
17. UZZIAH (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
18. MALCHUS (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
19. JEPHTHAH (Jonah)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)

Not Voting: Balaam, Bathsheba (4), Jacob (3), Judah (4), Malchus (3)

DAY 5 RESULTS (alternate format):

1. UZZIAH (Pilate)
3. UZZIAH (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
4. UZZIAH (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
6. UZZIAH (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
9. UZZIAH (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
12. UZZIAH (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
14. UZZIAH (Rahab)
16. UZZIAH (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
17. UZZIAH (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

2. JEPHTHAH (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
8. JEPHTHAH (Lot)
10. JEPHTHAH (Samuel)
15. JEPHTHAH (Isaac)<---voter = civvie
19. JEPHTHAH (Jonah)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)

5. SAMUEL (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
11. SAMUEL (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN

7. STEPHEN (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

13. ABSALOM (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning

18. MALCHUS (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

Not Voting:
Balaam
Bathsheba (4)
Jacob (3)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
Judah (4)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings
Malchus (3)<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously

DAY 6 Results:
1. RACHEL (Isaac)<---voter = civvie
2. RUTH (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
3. RUTH (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
4. ABSALOM (Pilate)
5. RUTH (Lot)
6. PILATE (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
7. RUTH (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
8. RACHEL (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
9. RACHEL (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
10. PILATE (Rahab)
11. ABSALOM (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
12. JACOB (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
13. JACOB (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
14. RUTH (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
15. RACHEL (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
16. ABSALOM (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
17. RUTH (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
18. RUTH (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
19. RUTH (Samuel)
20. RUTH (Bathsheba)

Not Voting: Jonah (2), Judah (5), Malchus (4)

DAY 6 RESULTS (alternate format):

2. RUTH (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
3. RUTH (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
5. RUTH (Lot)
7. RUTH (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
14. RUTH (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
17. RUTH (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
18. RUTH (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
19. RUTH (Samuel)
20. RUTH (Bathsheba)

1. RACHEL (Isaac)<---voter = civvie
8. RACHEL (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
9. RACHEL (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
15. RACHEL (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder

4. ABSALOM (Pilate)
11. ABSALOM (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
16. ABSALOM (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

6. PILATE (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
10. PILATE (Rahab)

12. JACOB (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
13. JACOB (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

Not Voting:
Jonah (2)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)
Judah (5)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings
Malchus (4)<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously

Day 7 Results:
1. JONATHAN (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
2. PILATE (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
3. JONATHAN (Pilate)
4. REBECCA (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
5. REBECCA (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
6. JONATHAN (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
7. PILATE (Rahab)
8. JEPHTHAH (Lot)
9. JEPHTHAH (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
10. JEPHTHAH (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
11. JEPHTHAH (Samuel)
12. JEPHTHAH (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
13. JEPHTHAH (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
14. JONATHAN (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
15. JACOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
16. BALAAM (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

Not Voting:
Bathsheba (5), Deborah, Isaac (3), Jonah (3), Judah (6), Malchus (5)

DAY 7 RESULTS (alternate format):

8. JEPHTHAH (Lot)
9. JEPHTHAH (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
10. JEPHTHAH (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
11. JEPHTHAH (Samuel)
12. JEPHTHAH (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
13. JEPHTHAH (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie

1. JONATHAN (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
3. JONATHAN (Pilate)
6. JONATHAN (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
14. JONATHAN (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN

2. PILATE (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
7. PILATE (Rahab)

4. REBECCA (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
5. REBECCA (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder

15. JACOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens

16. BALAAM (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

Not Voting:
Bathsheba (5)
Deborah<===VOTER = HEATHEN
Isaac (3)<---voter = civvie
Jonah (3)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)
Judah (6)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings
Malchus (5)<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously

Day 8 Results:
1. LAZARUS (Lot)
2. JONATHAN (Pilate)
3. JONATHAN (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
4. JONATHAN (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
5. JONATHAN (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
6. JACOB (Rahab)
7. BALAAM (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
8. JACOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
9. JONATHAN (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
10. JONATHAN (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
11. JONATHAN (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
12. JONATHAN (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
13. JONATHAN (Jonah)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)
14. LAZARUS (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
15. JONATHAN (Samuel)

Not Voting: Bathsheba (6), Isaac (4),Jonathan, Judah (7), Malchus (6), Rebecca

DAY 8 RESULTS (alternate format):

2. JONATHAN (Pilate)
3. JONATHAN (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
4. JONATHAN (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
5. JONATHAN (Balaam)[/dead]<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
9. JONATHAN (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
10. JONATHAN (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
11. JONATHAN (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
12. JONATHAN (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
13. JONATHAN (Jonah)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)
15. JONATHAN (Samuel)

6. JACOB (Rahab)
8. JACOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens

1. LAZARUS (Lot)
14. LAZARUS (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning

7. BALAAM (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

Not Voting:
Bathsheba (6)
Isaac (4)<---voter = civvie
Jonathan<---voter = civvie
Judah (7)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings
Malchus (6)<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously
Rebecca<---voter = civvie

DAY 9 RESULTS:

1. LAZARUS (Lot)
2. ISAAC (Isaac)<---voter = civvie
3. MORDECAI (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
4. MORDECAI (Pilate)
5. ISAAC (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
6. ISAAC (Rahab)
7. MORDECAI (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
8. LOT (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
9. ISAAC (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
10. ISAAC (Samuel)
11. MORDECAI (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
12. PILATE (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
13. MORDECAI (Samson)<---voter = civvie (wtf zombie vote????)

Not voting: Balaam (2), Bathsheba (7), Deborah (2), Jonah (4), Malchus (7), Rebecca (2)

DAY 9 RESULTS (alternate format):
3. MORDECAI (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
4. MORDECAI (Pilate)
7. MORDECAI (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
11. MORDECAI (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
13. MORDECAI (Samson)<---voter = civvie (wtf zombie vote????)

2. ISAAC (Isaac)<---voter = civvie
5. ISAAC (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
6. ISAAC (Rahab)
9. ISAAC (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
10. ISAAC (Samuel)

1. LAZARUS (Lot)

8. LOT (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning

12. PILATE (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

Not Voting:
Balaam (2)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
Bathsheba (7)
Deborah (2)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
Jonah (4)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)
Malchus (7)<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously
Rebecca (2)<---voter = civvie

Day 10 Results:

1. BELSHAZZAR (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
2. LAZARUS (Lot)
3. BELSHAZZAR (Isaac)<---voter = civvie
4. LOT (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
5. BELSHAZZAR (Pilate)
6. ISAAC (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
7. BELSHAZZAR (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
8. STEPHEN (Samson)<---voter = civvie (wtf zombie vote????)
9. PILATE (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
10. ISAAC (Rahab)
11. BELSHAZZAR (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
12. REBECCA (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
13. ISAAC (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
14. BELSHAZZAR (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens

Not Voting: Bathsheba (8), Jonah (5), Malchus (8), Samuel (3)

DAY 10 RESULTS (alternate format):
1. BELSHAZZAR (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
3. BELSHAZZAR (Isaac)<---voter = civvie
5. BELSHAZZAR (Pilate)
7. BELSHAZZAR (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
11. BELSHAZZAR (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
14. BELSHAZZAR (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens

6. ISAAC (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
10. ISAAC (Rahab)
13. ISAAC (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie

2. LAZARUS (Lot)

4. LOT (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning

8. STEPHEN (Samson)<---voter = civvie (wtf zombie vote????)

9. PILATE (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

12. REBECCA (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN

Not Voting:
Bathsheba (8)
Jonah (5)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)
Malchus (8)<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously
Samuel (3)

DAY 11 (or Second Mafioso: Day 1)

1. LAZARUS (Lot)
2. RUTH (Isaac)<---voter = civvie
3. RUTH (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
4. RUTH (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
5. ISAAC (Rahab)
6. ISAAC (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
7. RUTH (Bathsheba)
8. BATHSHEBA (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
9. ISAAC (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
10. RUTH (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
11. ISAAC (Ruth)<===VOTER = STILL HEATHEN
12. ISAAC (Samuel)

Not Voting: Jonah (6), Lazarus (2), Malchus (9), Pilate (3)

DAY 11 RESULTS (alternate format)

2. RUTH (Isaac)<---voter = civvie
3. RUTH (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
4. RUTH (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
7. RUTH (Bathsheba)
10. RUTH (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder

5. ISAAC (Rahab)
6. ISAAC (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
9. ISAAC (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
11. ISAAC (Ruth)<===VOTER = STILL HEATHEN
12. ISAAC (Samuel)

1. LAZARUS (Lot)

8. BATHSHEBA (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

Not Voting:
Jonah (6)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)
Lazarus (2)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
Malchus (9)<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously
Pilate (3)

DAY 12 RESULTS (aka Second Mafioso Day 2)

1. LAZARUS (Lot)
2. DEBORAH (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
3. ISAAC (Samuel)
4. ISAAC (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
5. RAHAB (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
6. ISAAC (Pilate)
7. RAHAB (Bathsheba)
8. ISAAC (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
9. ISAAC (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
10. ISAAC (Rahab)

Not Voting: Isaac (5), Jonah (7), Lazarus (3), Malchus (10), Rebecca (3)

DAY 12 Results (alternate format)

3. ISAAC (Samuel)
4. ISAAC (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
6. ISAAC (Pilate)
8. ISAAC (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
9. ISAAC (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
10. ISAAC (Rahab)

5. RAHAB (Absalom)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
7. RAHAB (Bathsheba)

1. LAZARUS (Lot)

2. DEBORAH (Stephen)

Not Voting:
Isaac (5)<---voter = civvie
Jonah (7)<---voter killed self over Absalom's murder (modkill?)
Lazarus (3)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
Malchus (10)<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously
Rebecca (3)

DAY 13 RESULTS (aka Second Mafioso- Chapter 3)

1. LOT (Pilate)
2. LAZARUS (Lot)
3. DEBORAH (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
4. LOT (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
5. DEBORAH (Bathsheba)
6. DEBORAH (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
7. PILATE (Rahab)
8. DEBORAH (Samuel)
9. LOT (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
10. LOT (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie
11. SAMUEL (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

Not Voting: Malchus (11)

Alternate Format:
3. DEBORAH (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
5. DEBORAH (Bathsheba)
6. DEBORAH (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
8. DEBORAH (Samuel)

1. LOT (Pilate)
4. LOT (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
9. LOT (Deborah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
10. LOT (Rebecca)<---voter = civvie

2. LAZARUS (Lot)

7. PILATE (Rahab)

11. SAMUEL (Esther)

Not Voting:
Malchus (11)<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously

DAY 14 RESULTS (aka Second Mafioso Chapter 4)

1. LAZARUS (Lot)
2. REBECCA (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
3. REBECCA (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
4. REBECCA (Bathsheba)
5. REBECCA (Pilate)
6. REBECCA (Rahab)
7. REBECCA (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
8. LOT (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning
9. REBECCA (Samuel)

Not Voting: Malchus (12), Rebecca (4)

ALTERNATE FORMAT:

2. REBECCA (Stephen)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
3. REBECCA (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
4. REBECCA (Bathsheba)
5. REBECCA (Pilate)
6. REBECCA (Rahab)
7. REBECCA (Jacob)<---voter killed self over Stephen's murder
9. REBECCA (Samuel)

1. LAZARUS (Lot)

8. LOT (Lazarus)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning

Not Voting:
Malchus (12)<---voter = speared to death, mysteriously
Rebecca (4)<---voter = civvie

DAY 15 RESULTS (aka Second Mafioso- Chapter 5)

1. PILATE (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
2. ESTHER (Pilate)
3. ESTEHR (Bathsheba)
4. ESTEHR (Samuel)
5. ESTHER (Rahab)
6. LAZARUS (Lot)

Not Voting: Lazarus (4)

ALTERNATE FORMAT:

2. ESTHER (Pilate)
3. ESTEHR (Bathsheba)
4. ESTEHR (Samuel)
5. ESTHER (Rahab)

1. PILATE (Esther)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

6. LAZARUS (Lot)

Not Voting:
Lazarus (4)<---voter shriveled up and died Day 15 before Esther's stoning

Snapshot

I'm not sure how much more participation I'll get done before the NK, but I'm pretty sure that should I be around tomorrow my vote is about who is more persuasive out of Rahab and Pilate. I hope I'm still around, because I've really loved playing this game and would love to see it through to the end.

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Also in favour of Bathsheba - there was an empty sock at times when Judas was making kills. I am absolutely positive Bathsheba is not Judas.

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Why Lot is not Judas:

Did I not just fight hard for the successful lynches of Deborah and Esther?

Why Bathsheba is not Judas:

Bathsheba's vote record since she was replaced has been essentially impeccable.

Why Samuel is not Judas:

Samuel was the decision point in that vote. If Samuel voted Pilate, Rahab would have voted Pilate. The only way I could see Samuel as bad is if Pilate is also bad, which doesn't make any sense (and would mean we were losing anyway).

My conclusion from very basic analysis, but I think it is conclusive analysis: Judas must be either Rahab or Pilate.

Snapshot

I, for one, am open to hearing what Rahab has to say. She would be the easy vote tomorrow, but it doesn't necessarily make her the correct one. Let's be careful.

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Also, well played Esther. You really did have my trust for a very long length of time, but a read back last night made you look very bad. I'm glad I did it.

So now we just need to find our Judas. I really think we need to make sure we look at everyone carefully. I'm going to put as much legwork as I can in the next 24 hours since I suspect my neck will be on the block tonight.

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Looks like Jacob was Joshua.

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It does look that way. But I think we are better off keeping an open mind for now.

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I hope it's right too.

I wish other more vocal people like Absalom and Stephen were here as it would give me more confidence. I don't much like being responsible for what I think is the critical lynch. I really hope you are heathen, Esther.

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Looks like you could safely vote now, laz, if you wanted to avoid any potential penalty. I will too if you do. We can save the forgetfulness for the next day if you like.

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Belshazzar wrote:I think I have an idea what's up with Lot. We talked a while ago about Job being forced to go at Uzziah (and maybe Uzziah to go at Job, as well??) rather than having tunnel vision - I think Jonah acknowledged the possibility and then so did I - and that it might be a Horseman's doing (War? Conquest?). For Lot to suddenly be enlightened of that must mean that he just got afflicted and Lazarus is the player he must go at.

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I'm glad you are defending yourself! I really am.

I just think Pilate was the wrong choice to go after. Rahab went after Pilate too. For me, the thing about Pilate is this: I can't see his teammate. It doesn't make sense that he has one, to me.

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