The Syndicate

Lipsticklacey 2 wrote:

fingersplints wrote:Being fine is the second. Nothing happens/risky alignment check.

If Bass 2 targetted a recruit he would be killed. The only 'baddie' type role that a hider can successfully hide behind is a seemer... if we even HAVE one of those this game.

Nothing. Happens.

There is no protection from targeting a civilian.

Lipsticklacey 2 wrote:Ya, I can't get past this.

Sig 2 also knew how the seemer works, and I still just can't believe that's information the hostesses would share in a PM with someone who doesn't have the role. I think he knew how it worked because he was Golden 2's teammate.

Still watching you Cookie 2, but that post from Sig 2, on top of the reasonable doubt that 'Someone' is causing, while not having me convinced about you; since I think the baddies could have pulled what we've seen off to create that doubt, and there are some timing issues; makes me think we should be careful with you, since I think we're in a situation where the numbers really matter.

I am voting Sig 2.

Lipsticklacey 2 wrote:

Sig 2 wrote:Okay, work with me while I sort through the Golden 2/BR 2 "who is the seemer" problem.

I asked the hosts about the specifics of a seemer role. their reply was that a seemer would pick a player in the game. Not a sock account, but a player, and when the seemer died, they would be revealed as that player, their power, and their alignment.

Thus, if I'm a seemer, and I tell the hosts to pick Golden the player, and then I die, my death would Sig 2 was Golden - his role - his power.

The interesting thing here is that the seemer would not actually find out their chosen player's sock account. In my example, I would know upon death what Golden's part in the game was, but not which sock he was.

If anyone wants to confirm this, just shout out to the hosts.

So let's look at the two deaths:

"Black Rock 2 - Lynched day 4 - civvie tracker - juliets (replaced reywaS Day 2)"
"Golden 2 - Killed Night 2 - civvie tracker - XthAtGAm3RGuYX - rezzed Day 3"

Let's say Golden 2 is telling the truth. He is Gamer Guy. He is a civvie tracker. He dies. He is rezzed. Black Rock 2 would then be the seemer. Correct? But.... wait.

For Black Rock 2 to be the seemer, and to show up as the civ tracker, who would she have had to ask the hosts to appear as? Gamer Guy. It's the only way to appear as a civvie tracker if she is the seemer. only, she didn't! BR2 was listed as Juliets, civ tracker. Thus, that cannot be the truth.

Let's flip it.

Golden 2 is the seemer. He requests to be Gamer Guy's role upon death. He dies, and is revealed as Gamer Guy, civvie tracker. BR 2 would then be a civ, right, the real civvie tracker? Except... she can't be. Because if BR2 was indeed the real civvie tracker, when she died, she ALSO would have had to be revealed as Gamer Guy! But she wasn't, instead she was juliets!

So, NEITHER way works, going by the hosts' rules. Which means there are shenanigans here that we are not aware of.

This is not right at all. The question was if a seemer gets to choose the role they show up or not when they flip, and the answer was they do. The answer said nothing about the player/sock stuff you are bringing up.

So, a seemer wouldn't be choosing the actual player; I'm not really sure how you managed to reach that conclusion, they're either choosing a role they want to show up as, or showing up as a player 2 that they choose before they die. There is no conflict here.

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Golden 2 wrote:

Roxy wrote:

Golden 2 wrote: HOSTS how are seemers designed? Do they get assigned different random roles upon flip?

They pick their own

Boom. So much for "astounding coincidence", hmm?

Treat me and "BR" on the same page. One of us chose the tracker as a fake flip. Judge which one, that's all I'm asking.

Golden 2 wrote:what the what

RIP though, "BR"/jules. I technically voted you, so sorry.

linki - yeah dog, I slipped. "Bass" is literally one place above.

Epignosis 2 wrote:Okay so she must have tracked someone and gotten something then?

Sig 2 wrote:BR2, how is getting yourself lynched helping, if you are civ?

Like, let's say you are civ. You figure, by being lynched, everyone will see I was telling the truth. But then what? Would the fact that you were civ neceaasrily mean that your voters are bad? What if this is civ on civ? Then you would a) be helping kill yourself and b) pointing an accusatory finger at other civs, thus helping the baddies.

So again I'll ask, if you are civ, what is the point of this?

Llama 2 wrote:Well done people that saw LC as bad! I will have to save supatown for another day. Tired llama is tired.

Syn, this does not completely absolve you. But it does you credit for the civ cause. Glad to hear you're ready to appear civ again. Welcome back on board!

Golden, I'm glad someone is watching me and MM. I'm sure we'll be on our best behavior for you.

Sig, I hope you are feeling less sick so you can add to the discussion, mr. baddie.

linki- @Syn Elohcin the puppeteer was bad. Elohcin 2's alignment is yet to be determined.

Synonym 2 wrote:

Gamer Guy 2 wrote:Can we please lynch Sig tomorrow? Synonym, will you help me?

Why?

iirc he was one of the earliest to call Scum Con on his bullshit.

Gamer Guy 2 wrote:

Sig 2 wrote:I looked back, and Syn 2 listed five names, he never said "are the five baddies" or anything that would be a true ping. I will be eyeing people who push that as a slip.

Why, because listing 5 while saying "Mafia is" is not the same? Sig, are you trying to scare people into not looking into something that may end up as revealing?

No civ should have any reason to defend Syn for saying something like that.