The Syndicate

Even if Ruth lives, those guys look pretty bad, imo

Crystle isn't very bright.

I look forward to that glorious future

I doubt the rest of you do, though. Good Luck, y'all gonna need it

Oh Right, unless me death sets Belshazzar up for some kind of amazing resurrection; that has been known to happen in the Bible, yah?

Wouldn't that be amazing, if you lynched me only to have an awesome & terrifying Death God be resurrected in my stead? Kind of like the Sacrifice the Game thread demanded? That would be pretty cool

Belshazzar wrote:What is dead may never die!

See you, little lambs.

Now, time to blast this. Been waiting an entire game to do it:

So true, that which is dead never dies

Belshazzar wrote:

Deborah wrote:I'm starting to get tied up in work again, so I'm going to vote for Belshazzar. I feel strongly that voting patterns are most important, and he did seem to vote in some spots that look like saves. And while I appreciate his output, there have been plenty of players (like MP) who can routinely be the top poster in the game and be bad, so I'm not weighting Bel's output as strongly as his voting record.

That's ok, Deborah. Next game I'll play like you or many others. To hell with top posting.

Balaam wrote:By my reckoning we are missing seven votes. Barring a miracle appearance by Bathsheba and Malchus, we can really handicap that down to five vote: Balaam, Belshazzar, Jonah, Rebecca, and Samuel.

I can't see Belshazzar voting for himself, so it will take some kind of late voting shenanigans from the other four to prevent his stoning.

I like how you included yourself on the shenanigans making watchlist.

Well that's a wrap, so I'll stay true to my word and place my vote on Rebecca.

My contributions truly were genuine, despite my flawed votes. Maybe some of you will still take note of that. That being said... I can't say you'll feel sad about me. In fact, you will most likely resent me after this lynch. I told you in a previous post there'd be repercussions, so brace for it.

And so with that mind, one final message for the Heathens as well:

Goliath and Nebuchadnezzar, hear me out! It is imperative that you take out Jacob, before any of you get dragged into a lynch. Imperative, I say. Do it! Just...

Spoiler: show

I am also considering a vote for Jacob. It was what Belshazzar seemed to want. I considered that it might be a trap, but not sure why he would bring me back, then trap me.

I am considering several possible votes. I like the thoughts on Isaac. Wasn't he my competition for my last lynch, too? I find Lots points on Lazarus intriguing. The whole Bathsheba replacing herself thing is too esoteric even for me.

It's interesting that Pilate was so gung ho to lynch me that he did not even want to give me a chance to speak my piece (whatcha scared of there, Pilate?) but no vote yet?

So wait, Bathshaba 2.0 replaced herself?

No vote from Sampson yet? This surprizes me.

Belshazzar, I have to thank you, wherever you are. I am having much more fun this time around. Not having to worry about lying and track covering is liberating in the extreme

Very rational of you, Bathsheba. I am, after all, a rezzed baddie.

What could go wrong?

Hey you crazy kids

Pay attention, I am not Belshazzar; I am Deaths Handmaiden, not Death himself. If you look at the big picture, being dead is not really all that big of an issue for Death. To be honest, (don't tell anyone, ok?) I kinda think you all helped him out by lynching him. I think he kinda NEEDS to be dead for that reign o'terror to begin.

It's the first wave.

As for me, I could stay or I could go. It doesn't concern me much.

I have to decide who i am going to vote for. It's an important decision.

You guys are fun

RIP Balaam. I hope you do, but really, who other than Death can say?

I don't know Belshazzars win condition, but I presume Belshazzar does; I would think he acted as he did for a reason

This isn't the first weirdness regarding the dead you have seen. Isaac v. Mordecai was not the first lynch where a deadie has had a vote that counted. Either you all have not been paying attention or you have been allowing yourself to be distracted with one bad lynch after another. I am sure that one of you is going to say, "She is just saying that", and you know what? That could be true. They might also say, "Why would she say anything and tip deaths hand?". Well, at this point, it does not much matter, does it? Lynching Death was a mistake

It won't be the last weirdness you see either. The Army of the Dead has no interest in the needs of its former compatriots of the living. Lynch me, and I will die. But you can't keep lynching us every day. If you see a riddle, you should solve it, not just throw a knife at it Feel free to throw that knife, I am the hand maiden of Death. What is there for me to fear?

My guess (and it IS a guess; as I said, I have no knowledge of Belshazzars win cons. Just some mechanics and my part in them) is that Death could play for either side when alive. But the instrument of his death set that in stone. The NK is the instrument of the Heathen; the stoning is the instrument of the good people of Sin-d’kaht, the weapon of the Righteous.

Have a good day. I will see you at the Stoning Field.

That's a good question, I hope he answers it

You think Belsh would rezz anyone not compatible with his win conditions?

interesting POV, Isaac. Interesting indeed.

Absalom wrote:Here's the bottom line: Ruth might have been reformed. It's not impossible. But why take that chance? She's still the best candidate for a lynch, regardless of what she says.

Hey Ruth, if you're so good, who are/were your teammates?

I checked with the host, and he said it was OK to tell you that Uzziah & Mordecai WERE my teammates. Now they are sleeping somewhat less than peacefully under their allotted 6 feet of Promised Land.

I am nothing if not helpful




Linki @Balaam

Are you asking me to break the rules, Hunny? Rules are important.

Thou shalt not eat shellfish, thou shalt not wear mixed fabrics, thou shalt not crossdress, thou shalt not out thy fellow players.

I object. I have 48 hours to convince you I am reformed. I shall have it

And I live with my mother in law, you should read my book; I am about loyalty. But I still can't get a word in edgewise with that blessed woman; I intend to talk quite extensively, Pilate.

Absalom wrote:Well, I was technically wrong about Belsh, but I'm still going to count it as a win. BIH, Death.

I don't think Ruth is rezzed, or Epi would have restored her in the player list.

I don't think Epi would have said I was alive if I wasn't

Perhaps he did not bother with the update since he knew the self righteous would be stoning a girl posthaste rather than even considering turning the other cheek and giving a girl a second chance

That's silly, there was no night.

Who said I was silenced? I voted so my vote would go thru if I got trapped in
Ink it is.

No not silenced again, just ridiculously busy, posting from a restaurant restroom lol.

Well if what I understand what is going on, I have a better shot at a save with a vote for Absalom.

They might silence Rachel twice becasue she is a problem for them.

I don't think Jeph is bad (regardless of him kinda hissying on me earlier) I am going to go with Uzziah.

Stephen wrote:Stephen is here!

I'm going to trust my gut and declare that Balaam and Absalom are likely town because they are reading genuine to me. I also think the wolves have avoided attention for the most part, instead piling on a couple of major candidates each day (as Balaam pointed out).

What do players think of Ruth? Apparently I missed her when I left the thread the other day, and she asked me what I wanted to discuss like as if I hadn't said it. Paul had mentioned that MANY people declared an intention to vote for Ruth early on due to her trying to figure out everyone's identities, but then no one did, and NO ONE is talking about her. At all.

What's the deal? I don't even have reason to find her particularly suspicious, but her game is the epitome of flying just low enough to avoid major attention but not flying TOO low to seem as if she's not contributing.

What do you want to discuss with me? I recall a few people saying I was suspicious because I was curious about how obvious Paul was being, but I don't recall MANY saying they WERE going to vote for me. I think you're exagerrating just a wee bit there, hrm?

A lot of people are not being talked about, and quite a few are flying lower than I. Does it upset you that *I* am not being talked about because Paul wanted to talk about me? You keep wanting to talk about me, but all you have to say about me is that Paul thought I was suspicious, and that people should be talking about me more.

Start the conversation. Let's talk about me; I'm a fun topic

Jephthah wrote:And Lot, do I need to quote your flip floppiness where you start by thinking I'm bad and choose me as your top suspect, continue with saying you completely changed your mind, only to come back and accuse me again?
I thought changing your mind is not allowed. It's a baddie tell.


And now I'm really out.

Since when is changing your mind always bad? As things change, new evidence comes to light, perhaps colored by night results as well. Or if someone puts up a good defense. Lots of valid reasons for mind changing. I get your point, flopping like a fish is not the same as just mind changing. Do you really think he's bad, or is this a No U sort of thing?

And wow, the WIFOM in Uzziahs post.

Two dead, RIP you guys, assuming you were heroes, not villains. So it looks like the Amorites are off the poll?

Did Famine kill Barnabas? I don't believe Epi generally modkills people, even though Barnabas has not posted in days, and only had 10 posts. His last post was during Chapter One:

Barnabas wrote:

Balaam wrote:No I don't see it but, then again, it's not my style. Who has been forced to show their hands and what makes you say so about them? I'm trying to keep tabs on who you suspect so I can determine whether or not you're actually as good as you're intimating.

I bear no grudge against Paul at the moment, but the ruthless, unfeeling player in me thinks the best way to deal with an aggressive fisher like Paul is to put him to the test. Let's take him up on his three suspects and lynch one of them. He seems fairly confident that they are bad (though he threw up a smoke screen about not being 100% on anything). We can always call his bluff. If we lynch one of his top three and they're not bad, either Paul will cool it with the gunslinger rhetoric or the rest of us will know to take his words with a grain of salt.

Are we going to put every person's convictions to the test each dayphase? I heavily discourage this tactic. Paul will make his case. If any of his cases sound convincing, we may choose to follow his lead. But it's risky to start testing everyone's scumhunting skills just because they're vocal.

Since we have not seen a kill from the Horsemen before, I am wondering *why now*?

Also interesting was the suggestion in the post that we all vote as soon as we can for the person we most suspect. Personally, I think we should always try to vote for the person we most suspect, rather than bandwagoning people we don't suspect, or even giving people flak for not jumping on a bandwagon for someone they don't suspect But no one has followed that suggestion, while I am sure that people other than Nico & I have read the night post. At this time I still most suspect Uzziah, but after that last lynch, girlfriends & boyfriends, we need to talk.

There are 24 living (26 during the last lynch). So with 21 votes (25 voters, 4 were nons) 5 people did not vote. I did not check, but a few were probably habitual vote missers like Barnabas. What struck me about that lynch was how close the two bandwagons were at one point, 4 for Balaam and 6 for Job after Jephtaph voted for Balaam. Then each got one more vote, and they were still 2 votes apart, and at the end 2 more people piled on Job.

I need to reread that whole day over again. I was afk for various reasons for most of a week, and will have to time to do this this weekend. So sorry for low balling you guys.

Epignosis wrote:

Ruth wrote:RIP Job

I am voting Jebusites. It sounds like "Jeebus" and I am in favor of that.

There's a reason for that! It comes from the word "Jebus."

RIP Job

I am voting Jebusites. It sounds like "Jeebus" and I am in favor of that.

My opinion of Balaam is colored at this minute by that question. I missed it, shoot me. Jeez. If Job flips civ, I can see that being possible.

He did get my attention earlier with this:

Ruth wrote:

Balaam wrote:

Ruth wrote:Sorry Mary. I did not want to force a tie and have a no lynch, and I guess even if I had voted my gut and went with Uzziah, he still would not have been lynched with the last few votes.

I have been pretty much afk most of this game, so I doubt Noah will take me. I just hope Noah is an active person who will actually send in his PM

Who said anything about tie votes resulting in no lynch?

Ties resulting in no lynch is something this host has done fairly regularly in the past if he does not have a tie breaker role.

If there is one, I missed it.

He jumped on me for something that I don;t even understand what the issue was. It just feels like an attempt to make a nothing into a something.

I also am a bit wary of Pilate. The little Deborah has said was incredibly blendy. My opinion of several people will be based on how Job flips.

Linki, Jeph, he sounds frustrated to me. Been there, done that myself. But I have to say I also feel Rachel sounds like she believes what shes saying. So if Job does flip civ, I am not ready to turn on Rachel.

Linki @ Judah, that's a pretty good point.

Jephthah wrote:

Ruth wrote:I am going to vote Uzziah. I think he's bad, and have for a while.

HOw's it going to help? Why are you not dealing with the issue at hand?

How is voting for someone you suspect not helpful? We have a voting record, and we can use that info.

I am voting for the person I most believe to be guilty. I understand the case on Job, but i just don't think he's bad. And I think most of the other suspicions are mountain/molehill stuff. That's cool when you can change votes and unvote, but for a permanent vote, I prefer to vote for someone I actually suspect. I do the voice in the wilderness thing quite a lot, actually. I think Uzziah is bad news.

If by the issue at hand you mean Balaams fucking question, I answered that.

I am going to vote Uzziah. I think he's bad, and have for a while.

ebwop, but I DIDN'T lose track that day

I kept up on the thread that day. I have lost track due to RL issues since then, but I lost track that day.

And please, Balaam, don't say "Answer my fucking question". I just missed it. No call for that. I was not intentionally flouting you.

Which one? I must have missed it.

Linki, thanks. I did not see it either time. I was told I was silenced. I assumed I could not vote so I did not.

Stephen wrote:I'm not sure why Ruth thinks Job is town either; I'm curious to hear an explanation.

What are people talking about with Job and Uzziah's behavior being forced? I'm confused on that.

Job seems wolfy to me because he doesn't care about anything other than Uzziah anymore, making his previous attempts to solve the game seem very fake. But would a wolf be that obvious?

I think he just thinks he's sure

I have no way of "knowing". His opinions are well thought out and he sounds sincere, like he really believes it, not like he's just saying it. And since he says it so often, there is a wide range of posts to gauge

Perhaps he thinks lynching baddies is one way to "solve the game". I have no plans to vote for him.

Stephen wrote:Also, check out the wishy washy statements by Jeph.

If Job flips wolf, my money's on Jeph and possibly Ruth. I think Jeph's wolf hunting seems more fake to me than Balaam, who has consistently struck me as genuine. But what do I know?

Let me ask again, what exactly about your brother Pauls thoughts about me would you like to discuss? I have the time

Also, Linki, are you cursed to talk about Paul?

Stephen wrote:Burning questions on my mind:
- Is Job bad? If so, it might clear Uzziah and Rachel. If Job is good, then those two look possibly worse.
- What happened to Job? Why is he posting less? Why less attempts to solve the game?
- What happened to Lot? Same question.
- Paul brought up something interesting, which I noticed again when Rachel quoted his posts... Many players expressed suspicion of Ruth early in the game, even declaring intentions to vote her, yet that has disappeared COMPLETELY. Meanwhile, Ruth has hardly participated. Why is no one talking about her now?

Literally, what is the deal with about half of the players right now? It's like no one is trying to win this game.

You're right; I have hardly participated. Neither have several others; I noted at least 2 or 3 posts between this one of yours, and this one I am posting from others saying "life=busy".

And in my case, yeah. I had every intention to be more active after I last posted, then life kinda bit me in the ass. I look forward to a nice quiet non-dramatic weekend to catch up here.

What specifically about what Paul said would you like to discuss?

What are your thoughts on Job/Uzziah? I am coming down pro-Job.

They Call the Wind Uzziah

Job wrote:

Balaam wrote:

Rachel wrote:

Job wrote:Catch up is tl,dr.

Great job everyone, can we lynch Uzziah now?

What about all your other suspects?

Indeed. My note-taking fell apart Day 2, but on Day 1, you expressed the following:

Suspicious of:
Belshazzar
Ruth
Lot
Nicodemus
Martha
Uzziah

Trusting of:
Paul
Jonah

Where do you stand on them now?

Who cares? Uzziah is bad.

This totally feels like a cred grab to me. I also think Uzziah is bad, but refusing to discuss other options or even consider them isn't a good thing.

Balaam wrote:

Ruth wrote:Sorry Mary. I did not want to force a tie and have a no lynch, and I guess even if I had voted my gut and went with Uzziah, he still would not have been lynched with the last few votes.

I have been pretty much afk most of this game, so I doubt Noah will take me. I just hope Noah is an active person who will actually send in his PM

Who said anything about tie votes resulting in no lynch?

Ties resulting in no lynch is something this host has done fairly regularly in the past if he does not have a tie breaker role.

If there is one, I missed it.

Sorry Mary. I did not want to force a tie and have a no lynch, and I guess even if I had voted my gut and went with Uzziah, he still would not have been lynched with the last few votes.

I have been pretty much afk most of this game, so I doubt Noah will take me. I just hope Noah is an active person who will actually send in his PM

Good point. Thanks

OK, gonna vote Mary. I would rather not tie it up which a vote for Uzziah would do.

Rachel wrote:

Ruth wrote:I caught up some today, but don't totally get the Mary suspish. I am going to try to figure out the case there, but will likely vote for Uzziah; can someone give me the Mary Mag cliff notes? I am having problems getting past his Day One antics, tbh.

Mary voted for me under suspicious circumstances.

Why is her vote more suspicious than Lots?

I caught up some today, but don't totally get the Mary suspish. I am going to try to figure out the case there, but will likely vote for Uzziah; can someone give me the Mary Mag cliff notes? I am having problems getting past his Day One antics, tbh.

Oh Holy Landers, so sorry. The non Biblical world kind of kicked my butt this weekend. I will read back and catch up today, but if I do not get caught all the way back up, I will be at work when the poll ends, but hopefully will be caught up. If not I suppose I will vote for Uzziah who was the person I would have voted for were I not silenced the other day. But work should be fairly slow today.

I look forward to reading back and seeing if we ever figured out (or had any good theories) about what happened that day.

That is why I wondered if there was some sort of multiplying mechanic at play, or mimic power(s). Because I know I was not lying, and I doubt Cain was. Beshazzar made a huge post right after the Lynch, and Paul did signal with a vote, although he had not spoken since prior to the end of Day 1.

So

Yes, I did. Thats why in my first post back, I knew he was silenced.

Did you have a bad day?

OK, whoever WASN'T silenced, raise your hands.

I have heard of games with 2 silencers, never 4.

So either a few people are fibbing (and Cain was not just lurking, he was lurking while being lynched, as Lazarus says) or some crazy shit is happening.

I do not know who silenced me.

He was lurking in the thread. But not posting. That's fairly standard signalling, especially in a sock game where you aren't supposed to post in your sock outside of the game thread.

Maybe I just noticed cause I was doing it, too, and I don't think anyone noticed me, either.

Well, I think it is fair to say that Cain was silenced, you say you were silenced, I am saying *I* was silenced, and Paul voted without posting, which might imply HE was silenced.

Could there be a power multiplier role or something of that nature? Becasue a game with FOUR silencers is going to be really hard, and annoying, to boot.

And yes, Cain was lurking in the thread. I saw him lurking with me, lol.

I don't believe you guys lynched a silenced person. Didn't anyone notice him lurking in the thread? That was weak.

Had I been able to vote, I probably would have voted Uzziah.

I skimmed along a bit, but still need to finish catching up. RIP Cain

And I'm not sure I think Paul was also silenced; this is his last post. It was made on Sunday, before Day 1 even ended. He did not post Night One, either. Plus how many silencers are there??

Paul wrote:i have already made my vote today it will be interesting to see how everyone talks and votes

i know i talk a lot (lol) but i try not to unless i have a reason to so you know i really do not think i have anything else to add atm

d2 will be more fun

wake me when d2

Linki; You were silenced, too?