The Syndicate

Okay so I looked back to page one, and it also said that Loki can use trick poll on themselves. Which could also mean that AS could be Loki, but I call that a stretch.

It's also worth mentioning that given the basic pattern of the failed kills, it's possible that Loki can use trick poll, but not on two adjacent day phases.

Given the the listed information, we could either try to get rid of Loki the next day phase, or we could just try voting AS out again. Just a reminder that if we choose to still vote AS out, then AS and Loki could very well be one in the same person.

Seriously though, more people have died from random turtle crap rather than traditionally being voted out. Quite aggravating, if I do say so myself.

Wow. Who could have possibly saw that coming?

In case you didn't notice, I was being sarcastic.

However, this confirms that Loki has struck yet again, which could also confirm that AS is wolf.

motobot wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 5:56 pm Well it can't be a mistake, I mean Epi would see it sense he is browsing the site at the moment.

That, and the game has been pulling random crap out the entire time. To the point where I wouldn't be surprised if no one gets eliminated.

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I didn't even notice that
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Me neither.

LoRab wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 1:07 pm *pokes thread*

Simon wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 10:34 pm
Abigail Sophia wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:03 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:46 pm Abigail Sophia didn't actually comment on me but voted for me. Curious.

@Abigail Sophia, why did you click on me?
When I voted, you and Long Con were tied. I didn't want my vote to not matter.

The only person I had any suspicions of was Moto (because he accused LC for seemingly no reason) I didn't want Long Con to be ejected just because of that

I don't know you very well but others were commenting on how you made "wolfy posts" I didn't see it myself but I decided to go with the crowd

I made a mistake and I am sorry
Actually, was this specific post a thing before people had BTSC with others? Because if so then the theory about AS taking orders from someone via BTSC wouldn't be so farfetched after all.
”

What do you mean when you say, “before people had btsc with others”?

My thought process was going of the fact that this was the only time AS gave a reason for her vote. And your theory suggests that she had BTSC with someone, and is now taking orders from that someone.

If Abigail's reason for voting at that time was posted before BTSC was even being used, then your theory would be more believable.

Abigail Sophia wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:03 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:46 pm Abigail Sophia didn't actually comment on me but voted for me. Curious.

@Abigail Sophia, why did you click on me?
When I voted, you and Long Con were tied. I didn't want my vote to not matter.

The only person I had any suspicions of was Moto (because he accused LC for seemingly no reason) I didn't want Long Con to be ejected just because of that

I don't know you very well but others were commenting on how you made "wolfy posts" I didn't see it myself but I decided to go with the crowd

I made a mistake and I am sorry

Actually, was this specific post a thing before people had BTSC with others? Because if so then the theory about AS taking orders from someone via BTSC wouldn't be so farfetched after all.

Simon wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 10:06 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 8:54 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 7:09 pm I think her lack of posting—more so than last game, btw—and consistent voting indicates she has btsc so someone can remind and suggest who to vote for.
the first part of this (consistent voting while inactive -> BTSC) makes sense but her vote targets don't
I didn't entirely agree this at first, but the more I thought about it, the more it made sense.

But if there is one thing that doesn't add up, it would be the fact that AS still does not bring herself to answer any questions given to her. Which I would find strange, because you would think that she would still answer people's questions every now and then, despite taking orders from someone.

Syn wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 8:54 pm
LoRab wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 7:09 pm I think her lack of posting—more so than last game, btw—and consistent voting indicates she has btsc so someone can remind and suggest who to vote for.
the first part of this (consistent voting while inactive -> BTSC) makes sense but her vote targets don't

I didn't entirely agree this at first, but the more I thought about it, the more it made sense.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 3:52 am Falcon seemed more than willing to not save himself knowing he wasn’t going to die

Probably because he knows people have been turning on me as well.

Syn wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 3:34 am
leetic wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 12:43 am Oh, and Syn's posts have been so forgettable I forgot to mention them in the above post.
hey wait a second

Actually, forget the last post, I misread that and Thought that was my post. You're probably just accusing me because I partially agreed with leetic, and because of the fact that I more or less said the same thing. I imagine it was pretty easy to find a connection between the two posts. But it's also worth mentioning that I was the only one that you could accuse, because at the time, leetic had already been proven town.

This might of also lead you to believe that that we were working together, or maybe it lead you to believe that I was the one who had BTSC with him, and no, I did not have BTSC with him. I don't even know how that works entirely, let alone what BTSC even stands for.

Syn wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 3:34 am [VOTE: Simon] aubergine

c'mon lol

Oh, now I get it, you're just mad because I stated my opinion on you, and it just so happened to be on the negative side.

@Syn

If I had said something positive about you, would you be thinking differently about me?

motobot wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 5:07 pm Y'know what I might keep my vote on Simon No one thinks Abigail could be wolf but it could be me Simon or Abigail so do I. So I'll vote Simon.

And besides, it only seems as if you are basing this of gut feeling.

And if you aren't, you're probably just jumping on the wagon that others have recently built.

It's also worth noting that you have not suspected me up until now. So I ask not only you, but everyone who's suspicion has turned to me. why the sudden change?

motobot wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 4:47 pm [VOTE: Simon] aubergine I'm just doing this as a place holder.

A place holder? Really?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 6:54 pm
OH HEY- ONE MORE THING

dunya and sig are no longer with you! Pineapple surprise!

dunya is no longer with you.
sig is no longer with you.

What this may tell me is that dunya and sig were tied for the most inactivity in the game at the time of this post. To the point where epi was probably like, "alright these guys literally have not done anything All game, they gotta go." And thus, they were given the boot, along with no participation awards.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 6:58 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 6:55 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 6:46 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 6:39 pm This essentially confirms that Loki swapped LC and falcon. Given that wolves almost certainly didn't know of LC's alignment, this means that falcon is basically an outed wolf and should be our target for tomorrow.

That's not what it means at all, and you should be ashamed of yourself
Congrats on slipping away for the past two day phases, but next time you shall not be so lucky. You are outed.

You, of all people, should be grateful

But you're not

Also, LC flipping Maf strongly points to Simon as well

Care to explain how?

I think I'll make a list regarding my current thoughts on the remaining players.

AS
Very Inactive, and no commitment. I find this unacceptable, not to mention, quite annoying.

Dunya
Can't say anything because I don't recall her posting at all.

Falcon
With the way things were going, Falcon may be the next to die. As he was the runner up on D3. But it doesn't look like he's done anything impressive lately.

Leetic
I argue that they have had the best reads all game. As Leetic seems to be great at catching things. (One of the reasons I trusted them).

Lime coke
I know that Brad is not angry anymore, but some of his posts may feel like that the ATE is still there. But I don't know, maybe that is just how I remember him.

Long con
No real reason for me to suspect him. I don't think he has said or done anything wolfy.

Lorab
I don't think she has said or done anything wolfy either.

Michelle
Same reason yet again.

Motobot
For the few posts he has made, his reads made sense. Does that mean that they were any good? Not really.

Sig
Sometimes I forget that sig is even playing this game.

Syn
some of the posts that belong to syn are somewhat forgettable.

Tonystarkprime
Is currently not feeling so good from what I understand, get well soon. That being said, I haven't found anything about him suspicious.

To be fair, I feel like I could have written this a while ago. But here it is anyway.

leetic wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 12:42 am While I still have time, here's the rough state of the game.

AS, motobot, and Simon are barely doing anything. motobot seems the least impressive slot of the three at a glance, but I'm not happy with AS's (lack of) effort either at this point. Meta from a previous game can only get you so far when you have a do-nothingist playstyle anyway.

dunya is a dead slot, someone vig this please. Thank you.

falcon's not looking any more impressive than when I last voted him, I'll give you that much.

Brad had a stupid tunnel D2 and refused to do anything afterwards. Don't go all "woe is me" about the Porscha wagon when you yourself said you weren't gonna do anything to stop it.

LC and LoRab look better than most people, but that's such a low bar to clear at this point.

Michelle's posts look alright I guess.

sig is basically another dead slot at this point.

I guess TSP is my top town read, but even he has done barely anything of late.

Try harder people.

It seems as if you are suspecting a handful of players. So then who would you be voting for?

I find it reasonable if you do not wish to answer.

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 3:23 pm
motobot wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 10:16 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 4:43 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 4:20 am
motobot wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 4:53 pm I just realized my last post might not make sense after re-reading it. So to go into further detail Abigail was hesitant to vote Porscha, but she did anyway. I believe Abigail found out that even if she voted Porscha the vote would still lose.
uh I dont get it but I also dont really know how to interact with children so i'ma just say I dont get it and leave it at that lol
I like, *want* to be able to interact with the chillens so i'm gonna attempt this

@motobot

wat

I *think* I know what you are implying, but it relies entirely on the premise that you randomly surmised exists by virtue of saying it lol.

1) why do you think abigail had special voting information?
2) why does that ability inherently make her a wolf?
3) and then why does she choose to do what I think you are implying she does?
Because if you read enough you could figure out that leetic had more votes than you.
Abigail was unwilling to vote you but still did. Why vote someone if you don't believe they are wolf. And by voting you if you flipped wolf in the future she would look less suspicious.
Now I believe I answered all of your questions but I could've misunderstood one.
Moto I would like you to ask yourself why, if abigsil is a wolf, would she vote someone (leetic) who she knows will flip town and make her look bad. And it would make her look bad, she isn't very active and didn't have her own scumread on leetic. So it would look like a thoughtless sheep. She could have voted anybody else regardless of alignment to avoid that exact predicament.

So tell me- why didn't this occur to you and why are you preflipping Abigail to preflip yet someone else? Don't you think youre getting ahead of yourself in this thought process? If I flip today, and you will see I am town, will you still think Abigail is a wolf?

It isn't good practice to engage in the logic you're engaging in, in my personal opinion. It's an easy way to flip 2 town if you're a wolf.

And if you're town then it's just not a strategy that behoove you or the rest of the town. Hope this helps

Look, why don't we ask the actual player who is currently being the suspect? Even though she probably won't answer.

@abigail Sophia

Why did you you vote for porscha?

Syn wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 1:57 am
Simon wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 8:35 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 11:48 pm
Simon wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 10:30 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 9:52 pm
Simon wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 9:43 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 6:27 pm [VOTE: Motobot] aubergine

Here until I see anything else worth voting.

Otherwise I'm not doing much this day phase. I got my townreads list up so any questions go ahead and ping.
But why the accusation against Moto?
Who do you think would be a better option?
Flipping the question to my opinion doesn't make any sense seeing as I asked the person who made the original statement for their opinion. That being said, I already implied this, but if anything, Abigail is the most questionable person who's stay away attitude really doesn't help her case at all.

Don't get me wrong, I don't accuse people for inactivity, not to mention, that really isn't the problem. The problem is the fact that Abigail hasn't done much of anything at all. She even said it herself that she doesn't actually pay attention to debates or speculation, to the point where she never has anything to say.

If she is indeed gathering info and having her own opinions and reads then good for her. But she is also being very quiet with her own thoughts and never actually shares them.

Trust me,she's even like this irl, so this is a very good reason as to why I shouldn't trust her. And besides, if she was town, she probably wouldn't be trying to hide as much as she is.

I have the same opinion on moto, it's not like he's done much of anything either. But unlike Abigail, he never actually stated that he was trying to stay away from anything supposedly chaotic.
if abigail is quiet and avoids conflict IRL, why is it suspicious if she also does that here? or did I misread this?
Believe it or not, that's just how predictable she is. And think about it, It's easy to read someone if you lived with them for over a decade. Even so, I still think she would be putting at least some effort if she was town.
does abigail have a (reliable) meta of only posting a lot if she's town? i don't get the argument here, and it's weird that both you and moto are doing it at the same time

Well I recently asked leetic if Abigail was town in kagemusha, and it turns out that she was. So to answer your question, that would be a no. Of all the elements that lead me to suspect Abigail, it felt a bit obvious that her actions depending on alignment was merely based on gut feeling.

Also, if there is anything else that does not make sense to me, it would be something related to how moto has been playing recently.

I have heard a good bit about moto being a skilled player, especially with his performance in don't starve Mafia, which I thought was rather impressive. But what doesn't make sense is that not only has he not been very active, he also has not said much within the times he has been active.

This leads me to believe that he is holding back for some reason.

@motobot ,
What is the reason for your inactivity? And how come you aren't trying as much as you do in past games

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 10:08 pm
Simon wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 9:56 pm Brad isn't exactly off the hook either, and there are a couple of reasons as to why.

The first reason lies within his behavior throughout the duration from day 2 to now. I've noticed that ever since the large debate between Brad and the recently resurrected leetic, Brad has had quite the temper since then. He may have also felt psychologically corned seeing as leetic was getting more people who trusted him. Ok some people trusted him and that includes myself, but others didn't. Brad on the other hand, only had a small amount of people who trusted him. (I even recall someone saying that said debate did nothing to move the game along after I said it was riveting, even though it started as the first piece of the puzzle that would lead up to how I was able to deduce this. But I'm getting off topic. Anyway, I suspect Brad is trying to use this temper in such a way to make others believe that he is being sincere. It's possible that he isn't holding much of any grudges anymore, but even so, this has not been overlooked.

The second reason is that he's been awfully quiet when it comes to accusations, especially when someone asks him a question or two. While it isn't illegal to dodge questions, I do believe it will make that person more suspicious the more it happens. I have read some replies of his that look like they were suggesting that he was shooting down different kinds of speculations from others. In other words, I haven't really seen him agree with anyone lately. And keep in mind, he hasn't really given much info lately either, so there is a bit of hypocrisy in this, but of course, I could be misremembering things, so please correct me if I am wrong about anything.
The first reason, you are describing a known, and not-well-regarded, tactic. Appeal To Emotion. Shortened to AtE.

What you described does happen. I don't think that this is a case of that. I think Lime Coke's frustration was genuine and that he's probably town.

First of all, I didn't know that was an actual thing so thanks for telling me that.

Second of all, I can understand if he was still recovering from all of that. It just seemed like something I had to talk about.

leetic wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 9:32 pm
Simon wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 8:35 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 11:48 pm
Simon wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 10:30 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 9:52 pm
Simon wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 9:43 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 6:27 pm [VOTE: Motobot] aubergine

Here until I see anything else worth voting.

Otherwise I'm not doing much this day phase. I got my townreads list up so any questions go ahead and ping.
But why the accusation against Moto?
Who do you think would be a better option?
Flipping the question to my opinion doesn't make any sense seeing as I asked the person who made the original statement for their opinion. That being said, I already implied this, but if anything, Abigail is the most questionable person who's stay away attitude really doesn't help her case at all.

Don't get me wrong, I don't accuse people for inactivity, not to mention, that really isn't the problem. The problem is the fact that Abigail hasn't done much of anything at all. She even said it herself that she doesn't actually pay attention to debates or speculation, to the point where she never has anything to say.

If she is indeed gathering info and having her own opinions and reads then good for her. But she is also being very quiet with her own thoughts and never actually shares them.

Trust me,she's even like this irl, so this is a very good reason as to why I shouldn't trust her. And besides, if she was town, she probably wouldn't be trying to hide as much as she is.

I have the same opinion on moto, it's not like he's done much of anything either. But unlike Abigail, he never actually stated that he was trying to stay away from anything supposedly chaotic.
if abigail is quiet and avoids conflict IRL, why is it suspicious if she also does that here? or did I misread this?
Believe it or not, that's just how predictable she is. And think about it, It's easy to read someone if you lived with them for over a decade. Even so, I still think she would be putting at least some effort if she was town.
Do you think her behavior is noticeably different from Kagemusha?

She hasn't mentioned anything about her stay away play style back then, so I didn't know weather she was just being inactive or if she was actually trying to figure anything out.

Actually, does anyone remember if she was town that game? Because if so, then historically speaking, that would make me wrong about her potentially having different actions depending on alignment.

Brad isn't exactly off the hook either, and there are a couple of reasons as to why.

The first reason lies within his behavior throughout the duration from day 2 to now. I've noticed that ever since the large debate between Brad and the recently resurrected leetic, Brad has had quite the temper since then. He may have also felt psychologically corned seeing as leetic was getting more people who trusted him. Ok some people trusted him and that includes myself, but others didn't. Brad on the other hand, only had a small amount of people who trusted him. (I even recall someone saying that said debate did nothing to move the game along after I said it was riveting, even though it started as the first piece of the puzzle that would lead up to how I was able to deduce this. But I'm getting off topic. Anyway, I suspect Brad is trying to use this temper in such a way to make others believe that he is being sincere. It's possible that he isn't holding much of any grudges anymore, but even so, this has not been overlooked.

The second reason is that he's been awfully quiet when it comes to accusations, especially when someone asks him a question or two. While it isn't illegal to dodge questions, I do believe it will make that person more suspicious the more it happens. I have read some replies of his that look like they were suggesting that he was shooting down different kinds of speculations from others. In other words, I haven't really seen him agree with anyone lately. And keep in mind, he hasn't really given much info lately either, so there is a bit of hypocrisy in this, but of course, I could be misremembering things, so please correct me if I am wrong about anything.

Syn wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 11:48 pm
Simon wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 10:30 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 9:52 pm
Simon wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 9:43 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 6:27 pm [VOTE: Motobot] aubergine

Here until I see anything else worth voting.

Otherwise I'm not doing much this day phase. I got my townreads list up so any questions go ahead and ping.
But why the accusation against Moto?
Who do you think would be a better option?
Flipping the question to my opinion doesn't make any sense seeing as I asked the person who made the original statement for their opinion. That being said, I already implied this, but if anything, Abigail is the most questionable person who's stay away attitude really doesn't help her case at all.

Don't get me wrong, I don't accuse people for inactivity, not to mention, that really isn't the problem. The problem is the fact that Abigail hasn't done much of anything at all. She even said it herself that she doesn't actually pay attention to debates or speculation, to the point where she never has anything to say.

If she is indeed gathering info and having her own opinions and reads then good for her. But she is also being very quiet with her own thoughts and never actually shares them.

Trust me,she's even like this irl, so this is a very good reason as to why I shouldn't trust her. And besides, if she was town, she probably wouldn't be trying to hide as much as she is.

I have the same opinion on moto, it's not like he's done much of anything either. But unlike Abigail, he never actually stated that he was trying to stay away from anything supposedly chaotic.
if abigail is quiet and avoids conflict IRL, why is it suspicious if she also does that here? or did I misread this?

Believe it or not, that's just how predictable she is. And think about it, It's easy to read someone if you lived with them for over a decade. Even so, I still think she would be putting at least some effort if she was town.

Anyway, I think I should be going to bed now. Good night.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 9:56 pm
Simon wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 9:53 pm Does anyone else think that Loki's power had anything to do with the leetic/SVS switcheroo?
I don't think we would have found out leetics role. And I don't think he would have died at all if that were the case.

Yeah that makes sense.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 9:52 pm
Simon wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 9:43 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 6:27 pm [VOTE: Motobot] aubergine

Here until I see anything else worth voting.

Otherwise I'm not doing much this day phase. I got my townreads list up so any questions go ahead and ping.
But why the accusation against Moto?
Who do you think would be a better option?

Flipping the question to my opinion doesn't make any sense seeing as I asked the person who made the original statement for their opinion. That being said, I already implied this, but if anything, Abigail is the most questionable person who's stay away attitude really doesn't help her case at all.

Don't get me wrong, I don't accuse people for inactivity, not to mention, that really isn't the problem. The problem is the fact that Abigail hasn't done much of anything at all. She even said it herself that she doesn't actually pay attention to debates or speculation, to the point where she never has anything to say.

If she is indeed gathering info and having her own opinions and reads then good for her. But she is also being very quiet with her own thoughts and never actually shares them.

Trust me,she's even like this irl, so this is a very good reason as to why I shouldn't trust her. And besides, if she was town, she probably wouldn't be trying to hide as much as she is.

I have the same opinion on moto, it's not like he's done much of anything either. But unlike Abigail, he never actually stated that he was trying to stay away from anything supposedly chaotic.

Does anyone else think that Loki's power had anything to do with the leetic/SVS switcheroo?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 6:27 pm [VOTE: Motobot] aubergine

Here until I see anything else worth voting.

Otherwise I'm not doing much this day phase. I got my townreads list up so any questions go ahead and ping.

But why the accusation against Moto?

Abigail Sophia wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:47 pm
Simon wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:40 pm
Abigail Sophia wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:03 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:46 pm Abigail Sophia didn't actually comment on me but voted for me. Curious.

@Abigail Sophia, why did you click on me?
When I voted, you and Long Con were tied. I didn't want my vote to not matter.

The only person I had any suspicions of was Moto (because he accused LC for seemingly no reason) I didn't want Long Con to be ejected just because of that

I don't know you very well but others were commenting on how you made "wolfy posts" I didn't see it myself but I decided to go with the crowd

I made a mistake and I am sorry
This post still doesn't sit right with me. Instead of Abigail asking moto for any reason as to why he was suspicious of LC, she just voted for wilgy instead. And then the other part of this response ( about wilgy having wolfy posts) suggests that Abigail probably didn't try to find anything interesting, let alone share anything about her own opinions, if she even had any at all. Granted, she probably didn't have a lot of time before d1 ended at the time.

Even if this response was the honest truth, it still seems like an illogical move, and that there were better ways to handle it.
Moto was already asked and I didn't see him give any explanation

Then that's on him. But I don't know, because if anything, you both seem questionable to me.

Abigail Sophia wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:43 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:33 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:27 pm
Abigail Sophia wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 8:26 pm
motobot wrote: ↑Wed May 01, 2024 7:48 pm She just seems different from when she is town. She doesn't post much normally, but it seems more like she's more focused on taking everything in instead of posting often. But that's just my thoughts.
Wdym taking everything in? I barely know what's going on because of all the fights.

If one of us is playing differently, it's you with your empty accusations and ghosting.
Give us a vote, I want to see where your head's at.
Seems AS is just willing to crossvote motobot. Doesn't really move the needle either way.
I already made that mistake with Wilgy...I don't completely understand what's going on with that fight so I'm staying out of it

But that's my point, instead of trying to speculate anything, you're just trying to stay out of things. You're pretty much just taking the easy way out of everything, and now you have little to no information whatsoever. Quite disappointing I would say.

Abigail Sophia wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:03 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:46 pm Abigail Sophia didn't actually comment on me but voted for me. Curious.

@Abigail Sophia, why did you click on me?
When I voted, you and Long Con were tied. I didn't want my vote to not matter.

The only person I had any suspicions of was Moto (because he accused LC for seemingly no reason) I didn't want Long Con to be ejected just because of that

I don't know you very well but others were commenting on how you made "wolfy posts" I didn't see it myself but I decided to go with the crowd

I made a mistake and I am sorry

This post still doesn't sit right with me. Instead of Abigail asking moto for any reason as to why he was suspicious of LC, she just voted for wilgy instead. And then the other part of this response ( about wilgy having wolfy posts) suggests that Abigail probably didn't try to find anything interesting, let alone share anything about her own opinions, if she even had any at all. Granted, she probably didn't have a lot of time before d1 ended at the time.

Even if this response was the honest truth, it still seems like an illogical move, and that there were better ways to handle it.

Wait a minute, the better question is how the heck did I post the same thing twice?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 7:15 pm I think there's a good reason to think Leetic is town. Don't vote for Leetic. I think given this we should trust Leetic's defense of AS. Don't vote for AS. We can go from there.

And what reason would that be?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 7:15 pm I think there's a good reason to think Leetic is town. Don't vote for Leetic. I think given this we should trust Leetic's defense of AS. Don't vote for AS. We can go from there.

And what reason would that be?

That being said, there's still plenty of time before voting ends, so I'll wait until further information comes in, so I can cast my own judgement.

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 8:43 pm
Simon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 8:42 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:14 am @motobot @Simon you both were pretty reluctant to get into it on D1 and both said that more would come after there was info

anything?
I don't actually recall motobot saying that, although I definitely did.

Could you be a bit more specific?
Do you have any reads on anyone?

Well as of right now, I do have some suspicion over both motobot and Abigail Sophia. Not to mention, your page and a half long argument with Brad was the most riveting part of the game thus far, at least to me.

If anything, I actually think that you have convinced me that you have won the argument. Based on what I have read, you seemed to have the upper hand with lines such as, " we should be working as a team, and you thinking better about your self is pretty wolfy." or, "It doesn't matter if you have listed town reads or town leans, compared to someone who hasn't done anything, if they don't mean anything."

I obviously didn't get these word for word, and I might of misinterpreted the context of some of of the argument. But if there is anything else you have won, you have won my trust. Brad on the other hand seems a bit suspicious after all of that though.

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:14 am @motobot @Simon you both were pretty reluctant to get into it on D1 and both said that more would come after there was info

anything?

I don't actually recall motobot saying that, although I definitely did.

Could you be a bit more specific?

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:09 am
Simon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:55 pm
Simon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:37 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:56 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:00 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 11:24 am
S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 7:33 am

Vote and hope based on what? Did you pick him at random?

I tend to be the person most sus of LC, and I pretty much always bad read him. So now i am up to him having 2 votes for Trivia.

Not liking this, gonna be honest. It feels kinda icky.

Just because you think someone may not be bad, doesn't exactly mean you also think they are town. Especially on a quiet Day One.

Like you, for instance. You feel sincere to me, I don't particularly think you're bad. But I haven't seem very much yet to point to and say, "Ah, Falcon is town", just a general attitude.

I will say that your vote for LC seems the most sincere to me of the three he has currently.

@Michelle why the Falcon vote? His slight aggro edge feels more like town Falc to me. Was it just a joke "no u" thing", since he had a vote on you at that point?

I have one errand to run about noonish, but otherwise I'll be in and out all day.

That's understandable, I get that. Differences in my mind are that LC did not say that, or anything, to answer my question, but framed it in somewhat demeaning light
By "demeaning", you mean "accusational", right?

Syn expressed he had similar thoughts re: Simon, and was intending to follow up as well
I also had similar thoughts re: Simon, and then I realized that picking apart exactly what his definition of "a lot" is would be a little pedantic and bullying, and wouldn't likely bear any game-relevant fruit, so I chose not to do it. Why would you focus on something so nitpicky? What result did you imagine coming from it besides maybe Simon having less confidence in speaking his mind, for fear that it's going to be linguistically dissected and get him called out on whatever minor definitional discrepancy you decide to pounce on?

I'm trying to be as helpful as possible for you to understand where I'm coming from here, because I was less concise and more reactionary in my stance last night.

No, I think calling my question a "limp noodle" is somewhat demeaning

I asked Simon one question, and it seems as tho you are trying to make it sound as if it's my sole focus...the fact that you are now saying you also felt the way I did re: Simon's post is interesting, as your reaction to my question is quite different than Simon's, or Syns, or anybody...even tho you felt the same

Simon's answer to my question was fine, and made sense to me, as I've had the same experience. You're taking a lot of exception on his behalf... @Simon do you feel I was being pedantic, bullying, predatory, or have less confidence to speak your mind?

Does anyone else?
Not as much as others who have recently been interpreting this.

Let's just say that I've never been good with my choice of words. To the point where in this context, I felt as if one wrong word could change the course of someone's innocence. And when you asked me that "a lot" or "twice" question, it wasn't looking too good for me.

However that all supposedly changed when this one question also managed to spark a bit of discord among others. Even now, I still can't tell if a smart move or not.
Actually, what if it's possible that falcon has intentionally been trying to find something among the nothingness to start an Argument, and I just so happened to be the prey.

I previously mentioned that my process of thought was that one little thing can change a lot on someone. It's not confirmed if I was specifically supposed to be a target, and it definitely is a stretch.

I don't know though, I'm just considering possible situations that would make sense to me.
If Falcon was intentionally trying to start an argument, what does that make you think of him? Is he more Towny because he's trying to generate content? Or is it Wolfy to treat you as "prey"?

Apologies for the inactivity and late answer. But, with that being said, I was the one who originally generated the content, weather it was intentional or not. In fact, Falcon was the one who originally added on to it.

The way I made it sound made falcon look somewhat wolfy. I'm not sure if we were told what the independent characters ( Thanos and Deadpool )in this game are supposed to be doing, mostly just because I'm usually living under a rock when it comes to announcements.

But if one of those objectives just so happens have me on a wanted list or something, then everything that I have previously speculated wouldn't be so farfetched.

Is there a good reason no one died today despite one person having more votes than everyone else?, or do I not actually know what's going on?

Simon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:37 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:56 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:00 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 11:24 am
S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 7:33 am
motobot wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:49 pm That being said. [VOTE: Long con] aubergine
Vote and hope based on what? Did you pick him at random?

I tend to be the person most sus of LC, and I pretty much always bad read him. So now i am up to him having 2 votes for Trivia.

Not liking this, gonna be honest. It feels kinda icky.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:05 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:01 pm

I asked Tony what his intuition told him, and he gave a couple of answers to that. I took "a lot" to mean "general attitudes of which those things were an example".

This soft interrogation of Simon looks both pointless and predatory. [VOTE: falcon] aubergine

You did so once, and only after I brought up intuition...and predatory of Simon eh?

Why is Simon Town?
Just because you think someone may not be bad, doesn't exactly mean you also think they are town. Especially on a quiet Day One.

Like you, for instance. You feel sincere to me, I don't particularly think you're bad. But I haven't seem very much yet to point to and say, "Ah, Falcon is town", just a general attitude.

I will say that your vote for LC seems the most sincere to me of the three he has currently.

@Michelle why the Falcon vote? His slight aggro edge feels more like town Falc to me. Was it just a joke "no u" thing", since he had a vote on you at that point?

I have one errand to run about noonish, but otherwise I'll be in and out all day.

That's understandable, I get that. Differences in my mind are that LC did not say that, or anything, to answer my question, but framed it in somewhat demeaning light
By "demeaning", you mean "accusational", right?

Syn expressed he had similar thoughts re: Simon, and was intending to follow up as well
I also had similar thoughts re: Simon, and then I realized that picking apart exactly what his definition of "a lot" is would be a little pedantic and bullying, and wouldn't likely bear any game-relevant fruit, so I chose not to do it. Why would you focus on something so nitpicky? What result did you imagine coming from it besides maybe Simon having less confidence in speaking his mind, for fear that it's going to be linguistically dissected and get him called out on whatever minor definitional discrepancy you decide to pounce on?

I'm trying to be as helpful as possible for you to understand where I'm coming from here, because I was less concise and more reactionary in my stance last night.

No, I think calling my question a "limp noodle" is somewhat demeaning

I asked Simon one question, and it seems as tho you are trying to make it sound as if it's my sole focus...the fact that you are now saying you also felt the way I did re: Simon's post is interesting, as your reaction to my question is quite different than Simon's, or Syns, or anybody...even tho you felt the same

Simon's answer to my question was fine, and made sense to me, as I've had the same experience. You're taking a lot of exception on his behalf... @Simon do you feel I was being pedantic, bullying, predatory, or have less confidence to speak your mind?

Does anyone else?
Not as much as others who have recently been interpreting this.

Let's just say that I've never been good with my choice of words. To the point where in this context, I felt as if one wrong word could change the course of someone's innocence. And when you asked me that "a lot" or "twice" question, it wasn't looking too good for me.

However that all supposedly changed when this one question also managed to spark a bit of discord among others. Even now, I still can't tell if a smart move or not.

Actually, what if it's possible that falcon has intentionally been trying to find something among the nothingness to start an Argument, and I just so happened to be the prey.

I previously mentioned that my process of thought was that one little thing can change a lot on someone. It's not confirmed if I was specifically supposed to be a target, and it definitely is a stretch.

I don't know though, I'm just considering possible situations that would make sense to me.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:56 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:00 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 11:24 am
S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 7:33 am
motobot wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:49 pm That being said. [VOTE: Long con] aubergine
Vote and hope based on what? Did you pick him at random?

I tend to be the person most sus of LC, and I pretty much always bad read him. So now i am up to him having 2 votes for Trivia.

Not liking this, gonna be honest. It feels kinda icky.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:05 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:01 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:30 pm

By "a lot", do you mean the twice?

IIRC TonyPrime brought up the gamblers fallacy, and I brought up intuition...what other mentions of these terms did you see?
I asked Tony what his intuition told him, and he gave a couple of answers to that. I took "a lot" to mean "general attitudes of which those things were an example".

This soft interrogation of Simon looks both pointless and predatory. [VOTE: falcon] aubergine

You did so once, and only after I brought up intuition...and predatory of Simon eh?

Why is Simon Town?
Just because you think someone may not be bad, doesn't exactly mean you also think they are town. Especially on a quiet Day One.

Like you, for instance. You feel sincere to me, I don't particularly think you're bad. But I haven't seem very much yet to point to and say, "Ah, Falcon is town", just a general attitude.

I will say that your vote for LC seems the most sincere to me of the three he has currently.

@Michelle why the Falcon vote? His slight aggro edge feels more like town Falc to me. Was it just a joke "no u" thing", since he had a vote on you at that point?

I have one errand to run about noonish, but otherwise I'll be in and out all day.

That's understandable, I get that. Differences in my mind are that LC did not say that, or anything, to answer my question, but framed it in somewhat demeaning light
By "demeaning", you mean "accusational", right?

Syn expressed he had similar thoughts re: Simon, and was intending to follow up as well
I also had similar thoughts re: Simon, and then I realized that picking apart exactly what his definition of "a lot" is would be a little pedantic and bullying, and wouldn't likely bear any game-relevant fruit, so I chose not to do it. Why would you focus on something so nitpicky? What result did you imagine coming from it besides maybe Simon having less confidence in speaking his mind, for fear that it's going to be linguistically dissected and get him called out on whatever minor definitional discrepancy you decide to pounce on?

I'm trying to be as helpful as possible for you to understand where I'm coming from here, because I was less concise and more reactionary in my stance last night.

No, I think calling my question a "limp noodle" is somewhat demeaning

I asked Simon one question, and it seems as tho you are trying to make it sound as if it's my sole focus...the fact that you are now saying you also felt the way I did re: Simon's post is interesting, as your reaction to my question is quite different than Simon's, or Syns, or anybody...even tho you felt the same

Simon's answer to my question was fine, and made sense to me, as I've had the same experience. You're taking a lot of exception on his behalf... @Simon do you feel I was being pedantic, bullying, predatory, or have less confidence to speak your mind?

Does anyone else?

Not as much as others who have recently been interpreting this.

Let's just say that I've never been good with my choice of words. To the point where in this context, I felt as if one wrong word could change the course of someone's innocence. And when you asked me that "a lot" or "twice" question, it wasn't looking too good for me.

However that all supposedly changed when this one question also managed to spark a bit of discord among others. Even now, I still can't tell if a smart move or not.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:30 pm
Simon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:19 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:10 pm What's everyone's opinions on yeeting a no-show for Day 1?
If we choose to play by that, then your options (so far anyway) would be motobot, Abigail Sophia, dunia, and lorab. Let me know if I am missing someone.

Also, I keep finding a lot of "intuition" and "gambler's fallacy". This tells me that some people are struggling to find anything useful to say. But then again, this is still just the beginning of the game, and I'm sure it can be hard to go off of something when there isn't much to go off to begin with.

But personally, intuition and gambler's fallacy are not something I usually go off of, especially at the start of something like this.

By "a lot", do you mean the twice?

IIRC TonyPrime brought up the gamblers fallacy, and I brought up intuition...what other mentions of these terms did you see?

Yeah you're right, I kinda over exaggerated. But I previously mentioned that there wasn't a lot to go off of given the current position of this game thus far. So I didn't really find anything much of interest.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:20 pm
Simon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:19 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:10 pm What's everyone's opinions on yeeting a no-show for Day 1?
If we choose to play by that, then your options (so far anyway) would be motobot, Abigail Sophia, dunia, and lorab. Let me know if I am missing someone.

Also, I keep finding a lot of "intuition" and "gambler's fallacy". This tells me that some people are struggling to find anything useful to say. But then again, this is still just the beginning of the game, and I'm sure it can be hard to go off of something when there isn't much to go off to begin with.

But personally, intuition and gambler's fallacy are not something I usually go off of, especially at the start of something like this.
Are they better or worse than nothing?

If it were me, then I would probably wait until the day 1 voting ends, then questions would be asked. I'm just not the person who would want to state the obvious, let alone joke around. I'm usually more serious than that.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:10 pm What's everyone's opinions on yeeting a no-show for Day 1?

If we choose to play by that, then your options (so far anyway) would be motobot, Abigail Sophia, dunia, and lorab. Let me know if I am missing someone.

Also, I keep finding a lot of "intuition" and "gambler's fallacy". This tells me that some people are struggling to find anything useful to say. But then again, this is still just the beginning of the game, and I'm sure it can be hard to go off of something when there isn't much to go off to begin with.

But personally, intuition and gambler's fallacy are not something I usually go off of, especially at the start of something like this.

I shall take the divine power of the plastic wand.

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