The Syndicate

Knew it was Kyle from the beginning you sneaky little rascal.

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:24 pm Well, yeah. But the civilian is screwed because mafia is just gonna force a tie at the last second. Give me the win

No, you pissed me off with the Tranq vote, haha.

No lynch. Mafia wins.

Quin voted for himself. Wonderful. Hi Jester.

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:20 pm
Ambray wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:19 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:18 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:17 pm quin do you think she's telling the truth? analytically speaking
About?

I think she's more likely to be the jester among you two. Mafia is more likely to ride no lynches into LYLO.
Oh FFS, you're gonna try and act civvie too?
I am town

Face meet palm. Why are you trying to convince Kyle so bad?

You both as bad as each other haha.

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:18 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:17 pm quin do you think she's telling the truth? analytically speaking
About?

I think she's more likely to be the jester among you two. Mafia is more likely to ride no lynches into LYLO.

Oh FFS, you're gonna try and act civvie too?

If you had tried to play it off as being the Jester I would've followed you. Trying to act as the civ - I CAN'T believe you.

There's your answer to your question earlier.

Oh Kyle.
Shouldn't have posted that. Voting you.

Im just gonna use 'don't like it' as my reason forever.

I want to vote Quin. How you just played that last round..don't like it.

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:04 pm Switched to Kyle. Felt right.

Oh you're a little. ...

Mafia wins.

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:03 pm You moved your vote without much of a fight, Ambray.

I think I've been clear from the start I think no lynching is pointless.

Tranq wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:02 pm That said, i'm not following Quin's vote for me

Me neither, but unless you can convince him to switch to Kyle...sorry mate.

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:01 pm
Ambray wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:00 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:59 pm Okay. I'll vote. But I'm voting Tranq.
And that helps anything how? Why? Kyle can just switch his vote to tranq to save his skin.
Well, you could also vote for Tranq.

Man, I am not gonna be surprised if you're mafia. How frustrating.

Switched vote just so it's not a tie.

If Tranq is saying he's not doctor he's either mafia or jester. So...game should end, eh?

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:59 pm Okay. I'll vote. But I'm voting Tranq.

And that helps anything how? Why? Kyle can just switch his vote to tranq to save his skin.

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:58 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:57 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:54 pm what if it was a civilian trying to save their own skin? would the doctor risk outting themselves for that?
if it had a chance of leading to victory then yes they would and also should.
I take it you're not the doctor then.

Switch your vote Mr.

Urgh, one of you doctor, one of you jester, one of you mafia.

You're all useless. xD

Urgh, I'm not voting no lynch, it helps in no way at all.

Voting Kyle and sticking with it. Not leaving all the power in the hands on the mafia and hoping they kill the right person. Won't win that way.
Whoever is the other civ I urge to follow.

Sorry - just had to have some serious talks with my mum.
Let me just catch up!

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:36 pm tranq kyle or nutella are confirmed bad because pushing no lynches takes away civilian control

For real.

Still don't see any advantages at all for Tranq to claim to be the Doctor. If he isn't lynched he will just be killed 10mins later in the night. How is that an incentive?

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:28 pm
Ambray wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:27 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:25 pm ambray do you not like it because you are the doctor? or could he be telling the truth?
Why would the doctor out themselves? The mafia could just kill him tonight then the only thing protecting the civs has gone.
well he's gonna get lynched at this rate so if he's the doc he's between a rock and a hard place innit

I would like to say he's had plenty of time to rebuff it but..haha.

Considering I had 3 votes in the last day phrase and votes got changed, why couldn't he have done something else other than guarantee his death one way or another?

Tranq wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:27 pm Not lying. Less than 10 minutes for someone to counter-claim, but that won't happen as i am the real doctor. Change your vote or go for no lynch. I'll get NK'd but that's still better than a lynch.

Is it? You're around in the thread for another 10minutes?

There is nothing to gain at all from claiming to be the doctor.

Clearly it's ok nowadays to role claim? Or just for this type of game? I never remember that being acceptable.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:27 pm ambray why did you ask me if I was the doctor earlier?

Er...I didn't?

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:25 pm ambray do you not like it because you are the doctor? or could he be telling the truth?

Why would the doctor out themselves? The mafia could just kill him tonight then the only thing protecting the civs has gone.

Tranq wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:23 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:22 pm No lynch only strategy is safest but I believe in my read on tranq

also literally chosing no lynch each time will extend the game by an hour and a half. I think we have to take some reasonable risks.
Oh wait, you voted for me.

Please don't.

I am the doctor.

Oh no Tranq.

I don't like this.

If the doctor can't protect themselves, why would they out themselves? No me no likey.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:16 pm
Tranq wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:12 pm I've come to understand this is a no lynch game until the mafia NK's the Jester.
Kyle: Has anything changed between Day 1 and now?
we have one fewer civ vote, otherwise it's the same scenario

if we do vote we should vote for people we think are specifically unlikely to be the jester.

This fella

[quote=Tranq post_id=398909 time=1516565560 user_id=414]
I've come to understand this is a no lynch game until the mafia NK's the Jester.
@Kyle: Has anything changed between Day 1 and now?
[/qu[mention]Kylemii[/mention]

Urgh nooooo

How boring.

Tranq wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:07 pm
Ambray wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:05 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:02 pm
Ambray wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:59 pm Still think Kyle was the better option. Can't be trusted.
can't or won't?
I just remember I could never read you...so both. Can't. Won't. CAN'T MAKE ME.
So lynching him is the answer rather that trying to read him?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:02 pm
Ambray wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:59 pm Still think Kyle was the better option. Can't be trusted.
can't or won't?

I just remember I could never read you...so both. Can't. Won't. CAN'T MAKE ME.

Tranq wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:00 pm
Ambray wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:59 pm Still think Kyle was the better option. Can't be trusted.
Why? He made me switch my vote away from you.

Well...he didn't. You were too late.

Still think Kyle was the better option. Can't be trusted.

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:53 pm
Ambray wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:52 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:52 pm
Ambray wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:51 pm Why can I not see when the lynch ends? And wtf why can't see where the reply is about there being a NK or not? WHAT IS THIS PRESSURE.

And damn the whole scapegoat of just killing the 'noob' first day hasn't changed has it? Nice..
Who should we lynch instead?

Day ends at ~~:55. Fill in time zone here.
Bit late now to change.

I want to kill Kyle.
I'm always down to stomp on some moths. Tell me about this.

Because Kyle is Kyle.

Solid logic.

Love you too Tranq <3

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:52 pm
Ambray wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:51 pm Why can I not see when the lynch ends? And wtf why can't see where the reply is about there being a NK or not? WHAT IS THIS PRESSURE.

And damn the whole scapegoat of just killing the 'noob' first day hasn't changed has it? Nice..
Who should we lynch instead?

Day ends at ~~:55. Fill in time zone here.

Bit late now to change.

I want to kill Kyle.

So mafia have a NK - so less civs tomorrow. Wonderful.

Voting no lynch just to save myself but no likey.

Why can I not see when the lynch ends? And wtf why can't see where the reply is about there being a NK or not? WHAT IS THIS PRESSURE.

And damn the whole scapegoat of just killing the 'noob' first day hasn't changed has it? Nice..

Tranq wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:45 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:40 pm I agree with the strategic value of a no lynch in this game, but think we should still use as much time to talk as we can
Day 1 we have the lowest odds of lynching the Jester - i think we should risk it.

I'm with this.

Kyle, wherebe you?

Savages, the lot of you.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:44 pm Hot take: Ambray is playing the noob card like I did in my first burglary, in which I was mafia. Therefore, Ambray is mafia. Solid logic, right?

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:40 pm
Ambray wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:38 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:35 pm there's a lot of wifom involved with a jester claim, I don't think I would give any of them any regards
How the hell did I forget the ultimate phrase of WIFOM!?

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:35 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:32 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:31 pm so we're basically starting out in a dire situation. there are two players whose lynch will result in the game ending instantly, one with a victory and one with a loss
Yeah pretty weird. We have an option to no-lynch though if we want to just use this day for discussion, but I don't think we'd really learn anything... seems like we should just go for it.
There are a couple very good reasons to no-lynch today (or tomorrow).

1) It allows mafia to kill tonight to bring the game to an odd number of players. Unless the doctor is successful, then we're right back where we started, but with more information.
2) We don't risk lynching the jester.

Saying we don't risk lynching the jester...surely that's an argument to never lynch anybody ever and then where would we be?

Forgive me, I know it's been a few years, but isn't the whole basis of mafia to work out who is who from the information presented? The most invaluable information being how lynches go down and their outcomes?
It is.

But how many games have you played where the game can end on Day 1 if you lynch incorrectly?

Can't say I've ever played a game that supposedly finishes within an hour. In my eyes, the quicker we get information, the better. But I am a novice to this style, I admit.

Ah, does this site not have the function of showing you posts that have happened since you were writing and before hitting submit?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:35 pm there's a lot of wifom involved with a jester claim, I don't think I would give any of them any regards

How the hell did I forget the ultimate phrase of WIFOM!?

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:35 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:32 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:31 pm so we're basically starting out in a dire situation. there are two players whose lynch will result in the game ending instantly, one with a victory and one with a loss
Yeah pretty weird. We have an option to no-lynch though if we want to just use this day for discussion, but I don't think we'd really learn anything... seems like we should just go for it.
There are a couple very good reasons to no-lynch today (or tomorrow).

1) It allows mafia to kill tonight to bring the game to an odd number of players. Unless the doctor is successful, then we're right back where we started, but with more information.
2) We don't risk lynching the jester.

Saying we don't risk lynching the jester...surely that's an argument to never lynch anybody ever and then where would we be?

Forgive me, I know it's been a few years, but isn't the whole basis of mafia to work out who is who from the information presented? The most invaluable information being how lynches go down and their outcomes?

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:33 pm @Ambray

Did you get a notification this time?

No nothing - I'm not sure what setting to change to amend it?

Everyone is here and checked in. Anyone else want to come clean with their roles?

Tranq wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:27 pm Does typing @ before someone's name actually do anything?

Apparently it sends them a notification in the top right - but I receive nothing.

First game in a long time. BE NICE.

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