The Syndicate

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:Hello. I'll try and keep up with the games I'm in despite my lack of laptop.

took me a while, but I finally finished reading DP. Apparently, he has "laptop" issues. Prolly faking, so my is on this low poster for sure.

BigDamnHero wrote:Easiest poll question ever....I've been in exactly one game so it was BY FAR my best performance (obviously).

Bragging much? Also super suspicious character.

agleaminranks wrote:Hmm... well, even in the only game I won, I got killed pretty early on. That was the case with most of the games I played too. I'm going to say that my best game was in Homestar Runner mafia because I participated the most, survived the longest, and got most involved.

Maybe a good candidate for a Day 1 lynch? Really keep the trend going of early lynching?

Vompatti wrote:

Mongoose wrote:Vomps, tell us about your vote, son.

I don't want to talk about it.

Vompatti wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

Mongoose wrote:Vomps, tell us about your vote, son.

I don't want to talk about it.

Ah, the Vompatti strategy. Vote randomly, and explain nothing.

To be fair, anyone who played Mario should understand his vote. Vomp was pretty kickass in that game.

Ture.

Moving on to 2 post posters we have Vomps. He has even used the ever evocative smiley. Highly suspicious. Russti escaped my damning analysis, by posting several times and dfaraday because he is also hosting his game currently.

Clearly low posters are suspicious bunch and we should watch them all carefully.

The above should be read in sarcastic orange is case that's not clear. I don't want to vote a low poster Day 1. That seems like a lame reason with so much discussion happening. However, I also don't think they get a free pass and will reevaluate in a few days if people are still inactive. I am still waiting for WWE to finish to examine the result of my top posters hide more baddies theory.

thellama73 wrote:

Mongoose wrote: Linki Llama - It's not illogical if we all meet in a central location, like Florida.

I'm not sure if Florida is central between Finland, Transylvania, Kentucky, Washington DC, Virginia, South Carolina, Michigan and wherever else these maniacs are from.

Who is in Transylvania??

Epignosis wrote:There are other birds in the nest that have not shared song.

We interrupt this program to bring you the current list of low, med, and top posters:


USERNAME POSTS
Mongoose 55
insertnamehere 46
Epignosis 45
thellama73 39
DharmaHelper 34
S~V~S 27
Bullzeye 21
Hedgeowl 21
MovingPictures07 21
Dom 19
Nevinera 13
birdwithteeth11 12
Lizzy 11
bea 9
Flyin' High 9
blindfaeth 8
Devin the Omniscient 8
Kate 8
juliets 7
Spacedaisy 7
reywaS 6
Elohcin 5
A Person 4
Boomslang 3
DFaraday 2
Russtifinko 2
Vompatti 2
agleaminranks 1
BigDamnHero 1
DisgruntledPorcupine 1

insertnamehere wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote: Linki - I don't totally blame him though. I mean if Sexy MoFo wrote some code or not is interesting, but after a while, we gotta talk about something else. Right now I am more interested in who SMF will "produce" tomorrow as a suspect.

You forgot "That". It's the most important part.

k thanks!

thellama73 wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:I just don't see the value in discussing the same points over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

I understand that, and I've been there, but I find the way you've gone about it a little too aggressive for comfort. The steering you've been doing feels motivated.

linki: I can't read lizzy either, but in general the more normal she seems the more I think she is likely to be baddie.

I started to agree with this, but can't decide. Lizzy is just so Lizzy. Was she fairly "normal" in Meat Boy?

Dom wrote:SVS, what do you make of Lizzy? I'm curious given the circumstances from Shawshank. I was very wrong about her too. This is something I could see Shawshank Lizzy doing, so I don't know what to make of it.

What does "shawshank Lizzy" mean in this case? How was she in that game?

Linki - I don't totally blame him though. I mean if Sexy MoFo wrote some code or not is interesting, but after a while, we gotta talk about something else. Right now I am more interested in who SMF will "produce" tomorrow as a suspect.

Linki
Linki some #€#^{|¥}^%€ shut up!!!

thellama73 wrote:I'm kind of amazed no one has accused DH of squashing discussion. I have been lynched for far less. Why does it bother you so much, DH?

That would be a new topic of conversation, so DH might be all for it?

DharmaHelper wrote:

Mongoose wrote:GUYS guys guys. Hey guys. Major epiphany. Possibly.

Remember that game we played (Meat Boy, I think?) where whatshisface was able to win with us baddies because his win condition was to be lynched? And then we lynched him, we did, post haste.

What if ... someone is trying to do that?

I know it's a bit zany, but what did you expect? It's me.

If by someone you mean inh, than there are way less complicated ways to do it I 'd think. But it's definitely something to keep in mind. Nev pulled that in the Shining, when he realized that was the best way to meet his win condition.

Mongoose wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Mongoose wrote:I really want to attend one of those sometime but I don't have enough Jewish friends.

I went to a seder. That is pretty close, right?

Yep, it's exactly the same thing!


Hedge - I used to to stand up at bar and bat mizvahs when at college. Good $!

You are always a surprise! I never thought to ask if in the interrogation room about your past in comedy!

thellama73 wrote:I hesitate to say anything, for fear of being accused of baddie motives, but I don't like the idea of using a computer to play the game for us. It seems to defeat the purpose of the game to substitute a machine for our ability to read people.

I don't like it. I don't like it one bit.

I agree with this sentiment, that a computer would ruin the fun somewhat. However, it seems completely appropriate to use something like this in a game of champions whether it's real or faked. I personally am enjoying the dialogue immensely, although I still have several pages to catch up, so that may change. :P

juliets wrote:Hedge, how will spreading the votes help combat Bob? Maybe my brain is not awake yet.

I see others explained this, but yes it was because of his role description. I think it would be bad strategy to spread votes early in the game as he wont have any or very few minions to start. I don't know if strategically it's a good idea to spread the votes as the game progresses, but one idea to consider, because I dont know how else we would mitigate the power.

Dom, does that answer your question too?

Lizzy wrote:Oh and I really like Hedgie's new avi. ^__^

thx! It was time for a hedgehog, and who doesnt love a tutu? Ok, maybe lots of people, but so what.

Nevinera wrote:

reywaS wrote:Talk about entertaining. I thought the other game was funny, but this one is down right fucknutty. What is this, Person of Interest mafia? lol

My only ping so far was Nev's post giving advice to the baddies. That seemed weird, but Nev has posted many times and that's the only thing that struck me as weird.

My advice to the baddies was both good advice *and* good for the civs if the baddies follow it.

The thing is, Bob and the baddies are going to be at odds very quickly, and I'd much prefer that they realize that
each other are their first threats and leave off picking on civs for a while. Otherwise, the baddies will work against the civs
for the first 5-6 days and then Bob will have critical mass and beat them all using the inside information he will by then have acquired against them,
much like I used my knowledge via Epig against his team in bioshock.

This game, unless we are very lucky, will be about Bob.

Oh man it was so much info, because Russti-Jack had just joined our team too. That happened a bit in AGods as well, since our baddie team could role check dead players and then we could relabel someone as one of those roles. (That was probably my favorite moment when Mongoose was lynched and flipped civ, but we still didnt know who she was yet.)

reywaS wrote:Talk about entertaining. I thought the other game was funny, but this one is down right fucknutty. What is this, Person of Interest mafia? lol

My only ping so far was Nev's post giving advice to the baddies. That seemed weird, but Nev has posted many times and that's the only thing that struck me as weird.

Ooo good word, fucknutty. I like it. "These chocolate-hazelnut balls are fucknutty-ly delicious." Ok, not quite, but will work on it.

Nev gave advice like this in another game early on as well, was that Mario? I think he was NK'd the next night. He generally gives helpful advice, but I actually see this as possibly more his civ game.

Also disappointed in DH for actually writing a whole post about beating a dead horse without once using this.

Spacedaisy wrote:

blindfaeth wrote:The only suspicion I have so far is spacedaisy, I thought it was convenient she was around to respond to sock's post about the plasmids stock being ransacked I just got the feeling that she probably got one, but didn't want anyone to know about it. Just a minor ping-

Otherwise, I'm sort of interested in seeing if FH carries through with some sort of analysis based on my idea earlier

linki x3

No actually quite the opposite. I said out loud I was going to ask for one as I started the PM and mp was all, "wait until you read my post." Then I was all, "you suck! How many plasmids did you have to give out?" And he faked like if I asked him in thread he would tell me, but he LIED! Thus his feb face when he answered. And I originally was going to say " Asshole." But I decided no one would understand. I suspect he only had one, because I did not dawdle that long. Oh the joys of living with one of the most evil hosts in the history of hosts...

Hedge, try clearing you cache or whatever, that usually does the trick for me.

INH, why not use Sockface instead of one of our current players to give us a sample. God knows he talks enough in every game he is in.

It couldn't have been many because I also missed out on one and that was no more than a few minutes after the post went up. Thanks for cache advice. Will give it a try! Avis and smileys are getting all mixed up for me. Socky would be a great example! or anyone else not playing as DOm notes.

So that was a lot of catch-up for not much suspicions so far. Granted I feel that with so much discussion we are in a much better place to start than some Day 1s. I will have to think on it. I find INH's ideas note worthy and am definitely interested to see what "results" come from this idea tomorrow.

I think it would be helpful for those of us who have not played every game to have those who either were a role or could speak to some of the baddies/indy roles. For example Bouncer in Bioshock, do we think there is still a mechanic in the game to steal a big daddy? Because that could definitely undermine a team as many of us remember.


• Big Daddy (Bouncer) - [Bioshock] – Is mentally conditioned to protect one of his teammates under any circumstances, guarding them from harm. At the very start of the game, the team selects the player to bond to Big Daddy (Bouncer). If any character attempts to nightkill Big Daddy's target, Bouncer absorbs the kill attempt. Bouncer is harder to kill than most living creatures due to its thick armored suit; as such, it has an automatic 50% chance of surviving NKs. Starting Night 2, Bouncer targets a player of its choice with its drill, which has an 85% chance of killing its target. After using its drill, the Bouncer must take two nights to recharge its energy before another brutal attack. If Big Daddy is busy protecting on the night he is supposed to kill, he skips the night, and tries the following night instead.

This was a devious one and several of us died from this Plant in Mario. In that game with so few players it paid to pick a low number, so it would helpful to get non-players to vote as well. Granted talking about this in thread also gives an advantage to the team picking the number. I don't know how to avoid it with so many people frankly.

• Piranha Plant - [Classic Super Mario Bros.] – Secretly chooses a number every odd night. The person to vote in the subsequent Day poll that corresponds with that number is killed (Non-players and dead players can absorb this kill!).

Am I supposed to have the option to edit? Also is that smiley Lorab or ? It's showing weird for me again.

Epignosis wrote:

S~V~S wrote:We can always call you Princess Twerk.

Do it and I hope Cthulhu drops a slimy one on your head, Neil.

I have sooo much to catch up on, but this threw me for a sec. Epi, I thought you were talking to me, but I forgot about Neil Gaiman.

insertnamehere wrote:So, let me preface this by saying that I am by no means, an expert at coding. This was the first really big program that I've decided to make. It could work, it could not, I'm going to try and see.

I've created a program that goes into every poster's game history, specifically games where they were bad, and sees what their top phrases or words are. It then contrasts those with the top words or phrases from a persons post history when they were good. It then eliminates the words that were on both lists, leaving us with that person's tells. After that, it goes into this thread, and sees how many times someone uses words or phrases identified as tells. The higher that number is, the more likely chance you are to be bad. This was a bitch to make, and it's something I've worked on for a long time, a bit of a pet project if you will.

Now, of course, because of the limited sample size, the program is more likely to be incorrect these first few days, but, as more and more people post, I know more and more about their role.

To summarize, I'm the NSA now, bitches.

Wow, that's awesome and scary. Kinda like my debate club friend telling me I said, uh, um over 140 times in a short presentation. I am not sure I really want to know, because I am sure it is more repetitive than I think it is. Points for being inventive.

Ok, so went and pull Bob's role since I hadn't yet read through all the ones I don't know. This seems like an incredibly interesting and powerful role. Similar is style to Wednesday in AG it seems. So best way to combat is spread votes? Seems tricky as week and benefiting baddies. How did this role play out in twin peaks?

• Bob – [Twin Peaks] - Wow, Bob, Wow. On even nights, can possess someone. That person will join his team and they gain BTSC. Bob himself cannot kill, but his minions can, unless they are under suspicion. Bob's minions collectively can NK someone every night, unless they receive at least one vote. To win, Bob and his minions need to outnumber everyone else. Minions can still use their NP, and even have BTSC. If Bob is killed, only his minions remain.

Nevinera wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Do I think Nev intentionally confessed to considering making up a reason to vote for somebody? Nah. But I think it's telling that they're willing to consider that, sure.

No, I definitely did. I consider it logically obvious that all civs will have to do so today, and mostly tomorrow too.
Baddies of course have more info, but they are motivated by not sticking out rather than by not getting lynched. Which admittedly is a ver similar goal.

I think it's 'telling' that you would take issue with such an obviously true implication. Of course it doesn't tell me much, since civs and baddies are both trying to scratch suspicion out of the air right now.

I will most likely vote for somebody who votes for someone that already had votes. And I'll prefer someon who has talked some, but not *said* much! because that is the only baddie pattern this early (do t draw attention).

You guys noticed bob is on the role list, right? Is anyone else surprised by that? I'm wondering how in the world he could lose, and also how baddie teams will behave knowing that it is almost a certainty that Bob will take one of their members sooner or later.

You guys can't trust your btsc teammates, and that's bound to make you less effective.. we should keep an eye out for the infighting that event will spawn, and for people that are suddenly granted correct 'suspicions'. Oh, and you baddies should keep this in mind - if your teammate is 'distancing ' himself, it might not be for the good of the team. :-)

I didn't play twin peaks, could you or someone else explain how the mechanic of Bobs roles worked?

I don't actually find any of Nev's statements suspish, because he has said this before about Day 1 in other games. Also, I have found that knowing someone irl has actually been a disadvantage for me since I swing between trusting them completely or suspecting them greatly.

Mongoose wrote:I really want to attend one of those sometime but I don't have enough Jewish friends.

I don't think that would be my first pick. I would much rather go to a guy's bar mitzvah than his bris tbh. Especially if Adam Sandler from Wedding Singer were playing at it.

Sooo, day one. awesome, my fav. Epi, about summed it up. I plan to take his advice and vote for someone I find suspicious. However, that's the hard part. You are all suspicious until you coax me in with your friendly banter and witty words, so don't do that this time, k?

thellama73 wrote:I am just disappointed that nobody has voted for the game I hosted.

If the poll asked a different question, then your game is up there for one of my favorites. However, it was not my finest performance although it was fun being Grady twins with Vompers.

DharmaHelper wrote:

blindfaeth wrote:Anyone have speculation as to what the results of this poll will be? :o Do you think some of the options are good/bad?

Knowing MP like I do, The poll is probably to produce maximum paranoia. Dude lives by the credo Funny or Die. Ain't nothin' funnier than a bunch of player's losing their shit over a meaningless D0 poll.

My thought is that there isn't a winning option per se. As DH said, it's either completely meaningless and just a fun way to reminisce about the past year or the options assign something to like benefits. In super meat boy, I was removed from the poll for voting a specific option for example. I dont remember if Day 0 bioshock poll conferred anything special.

However, since the poll has speed and full games, there clearly would be more voters for larger games or games where a large team may have won together vs a smaller speed game.

Linki -

Vompatti wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

Mongoose wrote:Vomps, tell us about your vote, son.

I don't want to talk about it.

Ah, the Vompatti strategy. Vote randomly, and explain nothing.

To be fair, anyone who played Mario should understand his vote. Vomp was pretty kickass in that game.

Ture.

It really was. Interestingly enough it was one of Vomps more talkative games as he was a top 5 poster.

Mongoose 228
Epignosis 172 - host
Hedgeowl 171
Vompatti 151
Bullzeye 108
Snow Dog 88

insertnamehere wrote:Y'all motherfuckers ready to PLAY?

thellama73 wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote: I really enjoyed the humor in AG as well, really fun to have a sock puppet game. Are there any in the poll for next year?

I am considering using them in Harry Stephen Keeler if that gets votes, but haven't made up my mind yet.

Hmm, well I was thinking of voting for Frisky Dingo, but now...

Epignosis wrote:It just occurred to me that I have never ever won as a civilian. I have only ever won as a bad guy.

To be fair you were a baddie or a recruit in almost all of the games for a while there yes? I do think the win from being a baddie is often more fun, because there is more coordinated effort and camaraderie. The civ "team" is so large that sometimes the win is not as satisfying. Plus as I learned in Thomas, you stay alive longer the more you make poor lynch choices and bad suspicions.

I couldn't pick out Llama in the parts of Grimms I followed at all, but once AG happened and I had a few games with him (plus knowing him irl) I knew who he was from the sign-up thread and the "Apollo, God of the Sun..." lines. I really enjoyed the humor in AG as well, really fun to have a sock puppet game. Are there any in the poll for next year?

DFaraday wrote:I wasn't in many games last year, but I'd have to say my best performance was in American Gods. I did technically win, and I managed to keep people unsure about my alignment for quite awhile (even keeping my own teammate unaware that I had defected...I still feel a little bad about that )

Ebwop: I left you off my list of Bioshock baddies. Hmm, I have been baddies with you twice and both times someone was secretly recruited. At least the second time we both got to win, instead of being gutted in one night and lynched the following day.

My favorite character role was definitely Irene Adler. I was so excited to be the civ ninja in Homestar, but sadly lynched before I could mistakenly kill civs, and was totally delighted to be Mario in Super Mario Bros.

Linki - you haven't let me down so far!

insertnamehere wrote:So, first impressions, Hedgeowl is the most suspicious to me right now. Look at his avatar. The owl looks like a smug evil bastard. That's a tell if I ever saw one.

Jealous because it says 'Drug Dealer' under my avatar instead of 'Corrupt Union Official' like yours? Also, I am a lady owl sir, so mind your fucking language! Really!
No need to start a case against me so early, just sit back and relax and if this game is like many others this year, Llama will do it for you.

Ah the game started! Woohoo! This is a tricky poll for sure. I personally played my best game in Super Mario, but had the most fun in BTSC in Bioshock with Epi, Snow Dog, and Bullz. American Gods is up there as well, but my baddie teammate DF was recruited by Llama early on and I had no idea until I was recruited. I think I am going to go with Super Mario on this one.

Worst performance would be Thomas for sure where I learned how conniving Ms. Lizzy can be. 'First is the worst...'

Linki - Lizzy and the role list. Will never forget that moment after she PM'd to confirm my role. Never should have forced her to vote Vomps for funnsies.