The Syndicate

Devin the Omniscient wrote:SVS, I would love to start making some actual progress in this game. I will vote with you, again.

*A Person*

Such a perfect day.
You just keep me hanging on....

Oh, wrong game

:P rezz some peeps yo.

Lizzy wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:

Lizzy wrote:Uhm... why am I still dead?

This tbqh

Maybe we should just open the zombie bar and sing zombie ballads.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Have you ever had Dogfish Head Punkin Ale? Its prob my fav.

Fantastic around this time of year. Unfortunately, it isn't sold around here.

Oh man they have a couple places around here that sell it and the day it comes out they do pancakes and punkin ale breakfast.

I wish I could get rezzed as a baddie and kill you both now. I greatly dislike Punkin Ale and all other spiced pumpkin beers. I suffered through an entire pumpkin beer tasting one October and it is my least favorite beer month. Porters ftw!

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

Epignosis wrote:And another:

The Undertaker opted to kill rather than save. That's an incredibly ballsy choice, in my opinion, especially if The Undertaker can raised lynched people.

I thought the same thing who ever undertaker is I don't understand why he would kill TH instead of rezzing Hedge a known civvie.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

Mongoose wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:oh ok thanks... and im sebastian

= Alison

I want a bass avatar now

Find one you like, add it to the smiley thread, and then stalk MP in every game he hosts or plays and bug him until he adds it. (or gets SVS to do it instead)

Mongoose wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:Underoos, stop being a dink and rezz me.

NO ME! Go big or go home.

I can't believe we didn't overlap at all this game.

same here.

Mister Rearranger wrote:Underoos, stop being a dink and rezz me.

NO ME! Go big or go home.

Ebwop: I already did! #9 woohoo!

Well, it's been fun everyone. Looks like I am on my way out, but I hope something is gained from this lynch. I still don't have a clear idea about the baddies in this game. A few more days and I may have even made the top ten posters group!

Epignosis wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:Do you not think there was any merit to the case on BwT? I think that is actually why people are voting for him. TH also noted some other worthwhile points and BWT didn't give much a defense at all. These all combined don't make him look great. So he looks like a pretty good candidate to me. Granted if by some chance he is lynched instead of me and isn't the SK, I won't last much longer.

No, I don't. I think you're using your magical mind powers to influence people.

Because when I make a case on someone and others vote for that person, that's what you claim. I'm manipulating people. I'm influencing thoughts.

Either way, I'm looking forward to this lynch.

Ah ok. Well, so far no one who has actually voted for me has given much of a reason, and some none at all. So right now between Bwt and me I think there is a stronger case for bwt. I have been suspected of being the SK (due to my replacing in Day 3 and surviving an NK), Corp (along with TH, Epi, K4j, and CBK because of our votes for WOG, which for everyone except Epi was to save MP), and AH (because I survived an NK).

For the record, I don't think that about every case you make. Just this one on me. There was lots of BTSC chat by Others in LOST about your recent high success rate lynching baddies and to watch out for you. Especially since you went for MR on Day 1 and he was subsequently lynched. So you have some influence, it's true. Similar to why some of us don't vote for Elo if you don't think she's bad.

This will certainly be an illuminating lynch. The chances of getting the SK this early in the game are slim, but still worth a shot since the SK is killing successfully every night.

Linki yes they are k4j

Epignosis wrote:Here is one thing: Lizzy, A Person, and Vompatti voted together. The three amigos.

Right, so what Are you actually trying to say with this comment though. They often vote together regardless of alliance.

Epignosis wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:I went with BWT because he said he not into the game and because between him and hedge I trust hedge because I really think we are seeing her civ game.

Seeing her civ game? What precedent do you have to make that claim?

Also, why are people voting bird? I did it to appease Hedgeowl and make a point.

Now here come the votes.

Tell me Devin. Tell me Hedge.

Who is responsible for this bandwagon?

Bass has been a baddie with me twice, so there's that.

Do you not think there was any merit to the case on BwT? I think that is actually why people are voting for him. TH also noted some other worthwhile points and BWT didn't give much a defense at all. These all combined don't make him look great. So he looks like a pretty good candidate to me. Granted if by some chance he is lynched instead of me and isn't the SK, I won't last much longer.

kneel4justice wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote: Yeah, that might not have been your fault, but Dom is still dead.

Why are you so upset Dom is dead? I ma just confused lol

This was in response to Epi asking where all my defenders were. Dom had stated he didn't think this was my baddie game after being baddies in LOST (also Supernatural), and then he was killed. So yep, I was sad to see him go, although I wasn't 100% warm and fuzzy on his game being civ.

DFaraday wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote: Now I am off to eat ice cream and watch more Doctor Who, so I am all caught up for BWT's game next year.

How far along are you?

I am up to episode 3 in season 6 the Pirate ship and demon Mermaid one. It's taking me a while, but I also don't want to run out so I keep watching other things to slow it down.

kneel4justice wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:Hedgeowl's hunt for the SK:

The theory I am operating under is this is someone who was absent or not very active the first two nights. Therefore I started by looking at voting record as an indication of participation.

Missed Day 1: Bass, Dom, FZ, LouLou26, ReywaS, Russtifinko, WOG, and Zany Dex.

Missed Day 2: Dom, FWvidchick, ReywaS, TH, and WOG.

Dom, ReywaS, and WOG are the only 3 who missed both days, but Dom was killed by Triple H instead of Epi and WOG is absent. reywaS is the most likely option given that he was also replaced Day 3, by BWT, right as the killing began by Triple H. He also had a total of 5 posts up to that time.

Since then Triple H has killed FZ, Bullz, and Dom instead of Epi.

I do apologize BWT if this is not the case, but if you were civ before it's not a problem replacing an SK.

Linki so much

It is not impossible that Jenny/FWvidchick missed Night 1 and Night 2. So you are potentially suspect. You came in Day 3, and the SK started killing Night 3? So kind of the same boat as BWT. But BWT is now acting like a townie IMO, just want to get all the facts out there.

Yes, you're right and in fact you brought this up in the thread earlier.

kneel4justice wrote:I wonder, did Triple H start killing only when Hedgie came in as a replacement? It's possible Jenny (FWVidChick) did not use her kills, but I wouldn't think she'd do that. Hmmmmmm

This was my response to you out of a longer post:

K4j - I subbed in Night 2, but was announced in thread Day 3 yes. Considering that FWchick/Jenny voted and participated through Day 1 I also doubt she'd miss a PM, especially if the role were an SK. While it is a fun idea and I would love to be an SK someday, today is not that day. I think many of us remember SVS subbing in as SK in Homestar and waiting to kill instead of using her ability right away. She stayed alive a lot longer in that game than anyone would have thought given her role.

I think the weak point in the case against BWT is would he also start killing right when he subbed in? It's possible given I had just subbed in that there was some cover. I can't see why an active player would wait two days and then start killing. I think if the kills are protected or blocked they are still in the night posts yes? Looking at the night posts there is no mention of a Triple H kill either Night 1 or 2.

Apparently, no one feels compelled to give reasons before they vote. I see Sorsha swept in and voted me too without posting. Maybe she was actually silenced unlike some of my other voters.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:Honestly, I was just making a vote for the heck of it. For whatever reason, I've been completely unable to mentally absorb anything in this game (or in Shawshank). I feel like everytime I come back to read, I missed either a lynch or a night period ending. I'm not sure what's going on with me, but I just haven't been able to get my mind into this game at all. I'll keep trying, but I would possibly be willing to be replaced because of it. Although if I get lynched today, I guess that solves that problem as well.

You voted Day 1, were killed Night 1, voted host/dead option Day 2, replaced in Day 3 and did miss that lynch, but I wouldn't hold that against you, and then voted Day 4 for Lizzy in your replaced role, after saying you would prefer to vote MR I believe.

I know that you are busy and don't fault you there, but you arent missing lynches in this game that I see.

If you wanted to vote just for the heck of it may I suggest WOG next time instead of a civ working really hard not to get lynched, k thanks!

Devin the Omniscient wrote: You guys are really trying to make it impossible for me to keep up.

Can someone give me a BRIEF summary of the suspicion on both Hedge and BWT?

Hedgeowl wrote:Hedgeowl's hunt for the SK:

The theory I am operating under is this is someone who was absent or not very active the first two nights. Therefore I started by looking at voting record as an indication of participation.

Missed Day 1: Bass, Dom, FZ, LouLou26, ReywaS, Russtifinko, WOG, and Zany Dex.

Missed Day 2: Dom, FWvidchick, ReywaS, TH, and WOG.

Dom, ReywaS, and WOG are the only 3 who missed both days, but Dom was killed by Triple H instead of Epi and WOG is absent. reywaS is the most likely option given that he was also replaced Day 3, by BWT, right as the killing began by Triple H. He also had a total of 5 posts up to that time.

Since then Triple H has killed FZ, Bullz, and Dom instead of Epi.

I do apologize BWT if this is not the case, but if you were civ before it's not a problem replacing an SK.

Linki so much

This was my case on BWT. I am surprised he didn't address it at all, when he came in and voted me.

Epi has two longer posts about the case on me, to which BwT did a 180 after feeling ok about me it seems.

Epignosis wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:Well, it sucks since bwt won't get a chance to respond against my case. However, I am considering this.

Why does this matter to you? You voted for me with no interaction. And you voted for wrathofgod who hadn't posted at all.

Why wait for bird to talk? Aren't you afraid his magical syllables that he strings together might somehow influence you?

It's not the same. You were not in danger of being lynched and WOG hasn't posted at all, so it would have been a long wait.

But ok, here goes and man I hope I am right:

Votes BWT

What do you mean you hope you are right? You won't know.

Are you more powerful than I am at getting people to vote the way you want? No way you aren't!

Well good, we finally agree. You have mega-vote inducing powers Skeletor.

I clearly mean if by some chance Bwt is lynched instead of me I hope I am right.


Now I am off to eat ice cream and watch more Doctor Who, so I am all caught up for BWT's game next year.

Linki - You're right, but in the poll you voted the host/dead option, so didn't see you there when I looked.

Epignosis wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:Well, it sucks since bwt won't get a chance to respond against my case. However, I am considering this.

Why does this matter to you? You voted for me with no interaction. And you voted for wrathofgod who hadn't posted at all.

Why wait for bird to talk? Aren't you afraid his magical syllables that he strings together might somehow influence you?

It's not the same. You were not in danger of being lynched and WOG hasn't posted at all, so it would have been a long wait.

But ok, here goes and man I hope I am right:

Votes BWT

Epignosis wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:Hedgeowl's hunt for the SK:

The theory I am operating under is this is someone who was absent or not very active the first two nights. Therefore I started by looking at voting record as an indication of participation.

Missed Day 1: Bass, Dom, FZ, LouLou26, ReywaS, Russtifinko, WOG, and Zany Dex.

Missed Day 2: Dom, FWvidchick, ReywaS, TH, and WOG.

Dom, ReywaS, and WOG are the only 3 who missed both days, but Dom was killed by Triple H instead of Epi and WOG is absent. reywaS is the most likely option given that he was also replaced Day 3, by BWT, right as the killing began by Triple H. He also had a total of 5 posts up to that time.

Since then Triple H has killed FZ, Bullz, and Dom instead of Epi.

I do apologize BWT if this is not the case, but if you were civ before it's not a problem replacing an SK.

Linki so much

And why won't you vote for him?

I very well might. Some of us don't have hot plans tomorrow, so I don't need to vote early, plus I think I may need to vote to save myself.

If you vote for bird RIGHT NOW. I will vote for him too.

Well, it sucks since bwt won't get a chance to respond against my case. However, I am considering this.

Epignosis wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:Hedgeowl's hunt for the SK:

The theory I am operating under is this is someone who was absent or not very active the first two nights. Therefore I started by looking at voting record as an indication of participation.

Missed Day 1: Bass, Dom, FZ, LouLou26, ReywaS, Russtifinko, WOG, and Zany Dex.

Missed Day 2: Dom, FWvidchick, ReywaS, TH, and WOG.

Dom, ReywaS, and WOG are the only 3 who missed both days, but Dom was killed by Triple H instead of Epi and WOG is absent. reywaS is the most likely option given that he was also replaced Day 3, by BWT, right as the killing began by Triple H. He also had a total of 5 posts up to that time.

Since then Triple H has killed FZ, Bullz, and Dom instead of Epi.

I do apologize BWT if this is not the case, but if you were civ before it's not a problem replacing an SK.

Linki so much

And why won't you vote for him?

I very well might. Some of us don't have hot plans tomorrow, so I don't need to vote early, plus I think I may need to vote to save myself.

Hedgeowl's hunt for the SK:

The theory I am operating under is this is someone who was absent or not very active the first two nights. Therefore I started by looking at voting record as an indication of participation.

Missed Day 1: Bass, Dom, FZ, LouLou26, ReywaS, Russtifinko, WOG, and Zany Dex.

Missed Day 2: Dom, FWvidchick, ReywaS, TH, and WOG.

Dom, ReywaS, and WOG are the only 3 who missed both days, but Dom was killed by Triple H instead of Epi and WOG is absent. reywaS is the most likely option given that he was also replaced Day 3, by BWT, right as the killing began by Triple H. He also had a total of 5 posts up to that time.

Since then Triple H has killed FZ, Bullz, and Dom instead of Epi.

I do apologize BWT if this is not the case, but if you were civ before it's not a problem replacing an SK.

Linki so much

Epignosis wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Four votes Hedge. I haven't voted for you yet. Where are the people who won't vote for you? Why aren't they coming up with compelling cases for others? Why aren't you?

Well you deflected and killed one of them so thanks.

You really, really, do give me too much credit for what goes on.

Yeah, that might not have been your fault, but Dom is still dead.

Epignosis wrote:Four votes Hedge. I haven't voted for you yet. Where are the people who won't vote for you? Why aren't they coming up with compelling cases for others? Why aren't you?

Well you deflected and killed one of them so thanks.

Epignosis wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Lizzy wrote:Rob - chur! butt would you like to... elaborate?

Just know that trying to kill me could be hazardous to one's health.

Well, thanks to you Epi, I now have the first two votes. Explain to me how this isn't a bandwagon you started? Sadly, Lizzy and Elo didn't even have good reasons, but you provided an excellent choice for people to latch onto if they need an easy vote.

While I am flattered that you think I have an 18 in charisma and a back pocket full of charm scrolls, I have but one vote. That's it. I don't control what anyone else thinks or what anyone else does.

Hedgeowl wrote:Please explain to me what possible baddie you think I actually could be, because I am not alone in thinking you had a pretty weak "case" on me.

Then these people won't vote for you and they'll vote for someone else. That's how this thing works.

You still have not made a case as to whether I am an SK, AH, or Corp. Why is that?

Hedgeowl wrote:I most definitely would not have killed Dom (He was actually defending me and noted this isn't my baddie style).

I know you didn't try to kill Dom. This is what lack of sleep will do.

Hedgeowl wrote:He is 100% correct and several others in this game who have had baddie BTSC with me know how I avoid/ignore Epi as much as possible to not draw attention to myself.

The problem with this defense lies in your second post. The one where you said you would "try a different tactic." In that post, you implicitly asked us to not consider previous Hedgeowl styles and methods. You can't have it both ways.

The problem with your reasoning is that you assume we are all 100% consistent. Yes, "a tactic" as in one, not my entire game. You often look for inconsistencies in someone's game, but guess what, my baddie game is way more consistent because I am careful, I take time and I don't post a ton. I have only been lynched once as a baddie based purely on thread evidence, and that was at the very end of Supernatural. As a civ I am not reading and examine my posts or worrying of I change my mind. I am generally inconsistent, which seems to actually be your whole issue with me.

Hedgeowl wrote:Several people seem to trust Epi and maybe I would more if I finished the 20 pages I have to catch up, and he wasn't working really hard to get me lynched. However, based on what he has said about his survival, the odds do seem to be in his favor that he is actually a civ when looking at roles.

So one civ to a possible other, keep me alive yo!

As I implied, I don't have that power. I have 5% of that power.

Words are quite powerful Mr. English Teacher. 3 people have voted for me because of you. And the last one didn't even bother to give a reason. You basically opened the door and said, "Here ya go baddies, lynch away."

Linki - 4 people now. So if everyone votes for me I am either a civ or the SK. But damn this would have been a shitty SK game I played.

Epignosis wrote:

Lizzy wrote:Rob - chur! butt would you like to... elaborate?

Just know that trying to kill me could be hazardous to one's health.

Well, thanks to you Epi, I now have the first two votes. Explain to me how this isn't a bandwagon you started? Sadly, Lizzy and Elo didn't even have good reasons, but you provided an excellent choice for people to latch onto if they need an easy vote.

Please explain to me what possible baddie you think I actually could be, because I am not alone in thinking you had a pretty weak "case" on me. I most definitely would not have killed Dom (He was actually defending me and noted this isn't my baddie style). He is 100% correct and several others in this game who have had baddie BTSC with me know how I avoid/ignore Epi as much as possible to not draw attention to myself.

Several people seem to trust Epi and maybe I would more if I finished the 20 pages I have to catch up, and he wasn't working really hard to get me lynched. However, based on what he has said about his survival, the odds do seem to be in his favor that he is actually a civ when looking at roles.

So one civ to a possible other, keep me alive yo!

Lizzy wrote:Right:

1. omgomgg hai bea and goosey!
2. Cheers for killing my main suspect, hhhhhhhh! Now I won't know who he was.
3. Hedgie seems to fit the profile of the SK, maybe a bit too well... Either way, last time she was on my side like this, she was mafia, so I'm keeping that in mind.
4. It appears that Epi survived a NK attempt and it somehow ricocheted and Dom is now kaput. Does that make Dom the SK then?
5. Rob, any idea how this happened?
6. The Sock's suspect list: Dom, SVS, Bass, Lou, MEEEEEEE, FZ. Two of them are dead. Based on the votes, the likely candidates for a Sock teammate are Lou, Dom (x___x) and me , although I've seen SVS throw her teammates under the bus when it was very convenient for her personally k.
7. I have to vote this evening because I'll be away for a couple of days.
8. Vomps, I would k

2. Another reason I am not the SK is the killed list. These are not the peeps I would NK in this game.
3. What side are you on that I am too? I didnt vote for you and dont find you suspicious yet. That could change. Which game do you mean? I thought you meant Meat Boy earlier.
4. This is super curious and I haven't taken time yet to figure out how it might work. Ricochet is an interesting idea, but we will know for sure after tomorrow night.
5. Would like to know this answer too.
6. Loulou isn't looking great in my reread so far. No idea about you and Dom.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Also, as to Epig suspecting you, K4J, this is not out of character for him.

I'll never forget in a game over on RM when he did the same thing to Rose and I gunned after him, then did a complete 180 on him and his behavior thereafter had me convinced he was civvie... Turns out he was independent.

I am actually trying to do a thorough read of the first 30 pages. I believe Epi was claiming he didn't suspect K4J in the beginning, but that is definitely not how it reads in thread. Just leaving this little MP nugget here. In my current thought Epi is either Indy or baddie and this is MP deflecting for a teamie.

RIPiywg MR and Dom! I am quite surprised by these kills actually.

Back to reading...

Linki - not defending myself? What do you think I have been posting about the last Night period?

Epignosis wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:

Epignosis wrote:What?

Turnip Head voted to save MP, but did so by voting for someone who had NO votes when MP had four?

Bull spit.

baby still awake...

We are all clearly using the word "save" differently. MP had 4 votes, so it wasn't a last minute save vote that any of us made exactly. It's that there was a "save" effort that happened in the thread. TH initiated a possible option, you voted 2nd (why btw if it wasn't to save MP? That was TH's whole reason to vote WOG and for the rest of us), and then MP tried to gauge where the last votes would go so he could hope to save himself. It wasn't guaranteed for sure, but there wasn't a lot of thread consensus since K4J and I actually wanted to vote MR, but were debating how civ we thought MP was. Also, I didn't suspect Bass, Lizzy, or Sorsha and that's why I didn't vote for them. Those were people MP suspected and was trying to get consensus on to save himself.

Linki

What other definitions of "save" am I not aware of? I'm only aware of one in this context.

I voted for wrathofgod because I wanted WOG lynched. The end.

I had a vote on me. And you voted me Day 3. You still suspect me. Why did me being insane keep you from voting me when I had a vote? If you're insane, I will vote you in a heartbeat if I think you're bad. Count on it.

You wanted WOG lynched? Why? I mean she was suspicious as hell obviously, but you realize of 6 voters you are the only one to claim that.

I voted you on the equivalent of my Day 1 and you clearly weren't getting lynched. No I don't like to vote for insanified players unless its later in the game and I feel much more certain. I tend to agree with SVS that it sucks if it happens and you can't defend yourself. Don't worry I will still consider you tomorrow if it makes you feel better.

Epignosis wrote:What?

Turnip Head voted to save MP, but did so by voting for someone who had NO votes when MP had four?

Bull spit.

baby still awake...

We are all clearly using the word "save" differently. MP had 4 votes, so it wasn't a last minute save vote that any of us made exactly. It's that there was a "save" effort that happened in the thread. TH initiated a possible option, you voted 2nd (why btw if it wasn't to save MP? That was TH's whole reason to vote WOG and for the rest of us), and then MP tried to gauge where the last votes would go so he could hope to save himself. It wasn't guaranteed for sure, but there wasn't a lot of thread consensus since K4J and I actually wanted to vote MR, but were debating how civ we thought MP was. Also, I didn't suspect Bass, Lizzy, or Sorsha and that's why I didn't vote for them. Those were people MP suspected and was trying to get consensus on to save himself.

Linki

S~V~S wrote:Could you explain that again for me, Epi? I seem to have missed it...?

It's amazing what a glass of prosecco can do to make one giggle. Back later when the baby goes to sleep again...

Oh, and Lou, I did try to explain, but maybe failed.

Epignosis wrote:

bea wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:

DFaraday wrote:Effective now, Bea has replaced Summer. Everyone welcome Bea!

Welcome, Bea! I'll miss Summer though, she seemed like a cool player for the little time she was around.

Still no WOG or substitute WOG 0_0

Thanks TH! Nice to see you playing again!!


Can anyone help a sista out? I'll admit - I've been drinking and football and cooking today so my ability to mafia today begins and ends with this post. I have NO idea what's going on. But I'm off tomorrow and can play catch up - anyone that could give me crib notes would be like so so so awesome. It's N5 of a full game. Please help me cull the reading

Hedgeowl is bad. The end.

Epilogue: So was MP, so you can read his posts with that in mind.

Jerk

I am not bad or the SK. I gotta admit you are having a terrible game for lynching civs Epi. First of all, me declaring my intentions in my first posts of looking at top posters (it was the top 10 btw, not 11 since Mongoose was dead) and voting for one, you btw, is not ok apparently. But you declaring you will vote for k4j and then saying you never suspected him is fine. And how is your vote not trying to help "save" MP? You were in the thread with everyone discussing the best way to "save" MP. You even saw 2 of his 4 tells you claimed and you trusted him. TH came up with WOG as a good vote option and explained his reasons and you were the 2nd voter! So, how is it not possible that you could have been trying to save him? Your "case" on me is grasping a lot and you still didnt answer any of my questions.

Pot meet kettle, is the phrase you have used before sir.

I can definitely thank you that I will not be targeted for an NK tonight though.

Welcome Bea!!

Linki - Yep, voting record Epi = shittastic

Loulou26 wrote:

DFaraday wrote:Night 4 - Stop! Hammer Time

J.R.: We're here at last! Welcome, everybody, to the global phenomenon, Wrestlemania!!!

King: It's the biggest show of the year, J.R.!!! I can't wait to see what kind of action we've got in store tonight!!!

Indeed, it was a thrilling event, with one of the most dramatic matches being a No-Disqualification Match between Triple H and Bullzeye. Bullz fought valiantly, and was just setting up for his finisher, when Triple H reversed it into a Pedigree. One...two..Bullz kicks out!!! Triple H was furious. He stormed out of the ring, grabbed his sledgehammer, then came back in and nailed Bullz squarely in the back of the head. He covered Bullz for the easy win. But as the referee checked on Bullz after the match, he made a terrible discovery...

J.R.: Oh my, King! It seems Bullz has died from that sledgehammer shot!

King: Triple H really brought the hammer down, huh? Ahahahaaa!

****************************************************************************

Hedge was backstage following her epic match, ready for her interview with intrepid reporter Renee Young.

Renee: Hedge, now that you've competed at Wrestlemania, what's your next goal here in WWE?

Hedge: Well, Renee, I really wa-

From out of nowhere, Hulk Hogan showed up and attacked Hedge. He tossed her into some random boxes, then pulled out an all-American Winchester rifle. But just before he could shoot, the trainers came out and pulled the two apart. Hedge was safe from Hulkamania for the time being.

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As Wrestlemania drew to a close, the lights suddenly went pitch black. When they came back on, the Undertaker was in the ring. He simply rolled his eyes back, raised his arms, and summoned lightning to hit a casket that had mysteriously appeared at ringside. The casket lid flew open, and none other than Mongoose sat up!

Mongoose had only one question: "Wot hoppen?"

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Bullz has been killed by Triple H.
Hedge is not dead.
Mongoose has been resurrected by the Undertaker.

It is now Night 5 (Summerslam). You have 24 hours to get your PMs in.

I don't understand, why is Hedge not dead? Do the two factions get a kill each, each night?

Hulk is the civ killer. So the hope is that he balances things, so that civs can kill baddies too. It's a tough role to have and play well.

@ k4j - you should absolututely follow all leads. That was me noting how quickly a bandwagon can start from a comment like Epi's, plus from people I already stated I suspected. It's a great thing to start as a baddie or to jump on to. I am always wary of the bandwagon rolling. The more you defend yourself, the more people suspect you, so its a hard place to be.

Linki - Hmm, doesnt make me suspect Epi less, thats for sure.

Epignosis wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:
Why do you think that you were protected and that Hulk wasn't blocked?

Well, I was including someone blocking Hulk as protecting me even if unintentional.

I could have said, "Thank you to whoever blocked Hulk, protected me, or in any other way prevented my death." However, I thought a simple thank you would be enough.

I'm always a bit wary when people survive a NK and claim to not know how they survived. But I'm willing to give you a pass because I feel you're a civvie anyway.

Well, someone was going to ask. I knew I would, so why not answer right away.

Glad to have the vote of confidence from you that Hulk did not give me though.

John Cena – No matter the odds, Cena always makes a comeback. He will survive the first attempt on his life. (SECRET)

Edge – One of the most underhanded, devious wrestlers of all time. Edge will slip out of the first attempt on his life. He sends in the kill for his team every even night.

Triple H – Triple H is the Cerebral Assassin, and strives to be the best in the world…at any cost. HHH will kill a player every night. He will survive the first lynch and night kill attempt on him. HHH must be the last man standing to win.

Odds are you're one of these three. I don't like those odds for you, no.

Didnt AP survive a lynch as well? So which role is he? Nice that you left out the roles that block and protect too. I am mostly assuredly not any of these roles, but go ahead and encourage someone to NK me again if you want to test these theories.

K4j - I subbed in Night 2, but was announced in thread Day 3 yes. Considering that FWchick/Jenny voted and participated through Day 1 I also doubt she'd miss a PM, especially if the role were an SK. While it is a fun idea and I would love to be an SK someday, today is not that day. I think many of us remember SVS subbing in as SK in Homestar and waiting to kill instead of using her ability right away. She stayed alive a lot longer in that game than anyone would have thought given her role.

Linki - the bandwagoning begins. Nice job Epi, now K4j and bwt too. 2 of the 3 people I said I suspect. Convenient.

So which is it? Did I vote to save MP because I am Corp or an SK? Or possibly a gullible civ?

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote: Thank you to whoever protected me. I do not know how I survived.

Why do you think that you were protected and that Hulk wasn't blocked?

Well, I was including someone blocking Hulk as protecting me even if unintentional.

I could have said, "Thank you to whoever blocked Hulk, protected me, or in any other way prevented my death." However, I thought a simple thank you would be enough.

I'm always a bit wary when people survive a NK and claim to not know how they survived. But I'm willing to give you a pass because I feel you're a civvie anyway.

Well, someone was going to ask. I knew I would, so why not answer right away.

Glad to have the vote of confidence from you that Hulk did not give me though.

Mister Rearranger wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote: Thank you to whoever protected me. I do not know how I survived.

Why do you think that you were protected and that Hulk wasn't blocked?

Well, I was including someone blocking Hulk as protecting me even if unintentional.

I could have said, "Thank you to whoever blocked Hulk, protected me, or in any other way prevented my death." However, I thought a simple thank you would be enough.

Bullzeye wrote:Thanks HHH. Not like this was the only game I'll be able to play til July, or possibly later, and I'd been looking forward to it for months or anything

RIPiywg Bullz. This is quite sad.

WB Mongoose! Glad we get to play together again!

Hulk, as a former civ ninja in Homestar myself, I have some advice. Better not to kill at all, than to kill a civ. Use your power wisely and please dont kill me.

Thank you to whoever protected me. I do not know how I survived.

It's always hard to know how votes might be manipulated, however I only see two roles that could have had an effect besides secrets. There's a civ lynch switch, which I think unlikely because why would you use it on WOG, and then a Heel that has a vote steal. So of the 6 votes for MP its possible one was stolen. Thoughts? That's the simplest explanation I can see currently.

Lizzy, do you mean "on your side" because I didnt want to vote for you to save MP? Nothing about your play so far gave me enough reason to lynch you over MP, so yeah I wasnt willing to do that. I am not ready to vote Bullz because he has a super civ playstyle, but I do agree its weird so many are "vouching" for him so strongly.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I miss this game so much already.

Resurrection, anyone? Please?

I hear WOG might need a replacement.

S~V~S wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:

Boomslang wrote:Further post review shows that Lizzy was definitely under suspicion by FZ before the NK, which only heightens my suspicions. I believe I will throw my vote that way, and I encourage others to do the same.

Really? You think the SK would be so obvious? I would think it wouldnt be a smart move to kill someone who directly suspects you, especially for that role. Lizzy certainly has her own style, but she's a damn fine baddie/indie usually. Your encouraging others to vote for Lizzy on this basis makes me you for the first time Boomer.

Personally, I have seen people kill their biggest accuser and take the WIFOM route, hell I have done it myself~ becasue then someone is bound to say something just like you just did. You have to weigh the odds of whether or not the person would do such a thing on a person by person basis. There are quite a few people playing this game that would be capable of such a move. Is Lizzy one? I really don't know. But I find your reaction to someone bringing up a valid point just as suspect, if not more so, than the point he made.

Mister Rearranger wrote:Waht?!



You had me fooled, MP, in two games most likely.

I'll probably die tonight(s), so let's lynch an SVS or Devin tomorrow. Maybe Dom or LouLou too.

Waht? Splain plz

You're totally right that it's a move people would try to do. Booms further explained that Lizzy was one of many FZ suspects, maybe 6? Which I would have learned if I kept reading before posting. It just felt too blatant for Lizzy herself, but it appears Boom has not played with her much. Is this correct Boom? Your later statements made it sound like you are not familiar with her game (not that any of us can really claim to know the true "Lizzy")

I am trying to decide where to go from this last lynch. Obviously, a starting place is voters looking to "save" MP, myself included. Frankly, of the group of TH, Epi, K4j, Hedge, MP, and CBK the only person I was suspicious of was Epi and possibly K4J. The MP lynch illustrates the problem I was trying to get out by targeting top posters perfectly. The longer you spend in thread with someone, the more you can begin to trust them. The more time I spent reading MP's thoughts and his back and forth with K4J the more I trusted both of them. So this leave me in a bit of conundrum. I think of review of all of us and voting histories will be helpful, but honestly I think since MP had so many votes early on that at most one of his teammates voted WOG and the others probably voted other places. He worked very hard in thread to get enough votes on one candidate. So at this point I plan a reread of those folks as a starting place, but dont want to have tunnel vision there either.

kneel4justice wrote:DUDE, TH!!!! GOOD CALL!

Wait, is this sarcasm?

Damn you MP, i didnt go with my top ten posters theory and you validated it!

Well, good job! That was an exciting lynch and CBK is pissed now MP .

Linki

MovingPictures07 wrote:Wow, my heart almost exploded, but now it has stopped.

I am still nervous about the result, nonetheless. Here's REALLY hoping WOG is bad.

As much as I applaud TH's reasoning it is very likely WOG is civ. However, it seems we may have saved MP from a lynch who I really do hope is actually a civ.

Linki whoa

A Person wrote:it was secretly so that people would choose between you and wog and leave lizzy completely out of the equation

Sneaky.

Linki i love that

Ah right, when you asked who was left to vote MP i forgot to type AP as well since he wasnt logged into syndicate. Lol. The suspense continues!

MovingPictures07 wrote:Waiting on Hedge...

I am here, but I dont want to vote Lizzy, so WOG it is.

Votes WOG

Wait wait..WOG is a low poster or a no poster? If she is not playing than yeah if some of us think MP is civ and WOg is an unknown than take the unknown. Also, SVS, who are these "lots of people" who think MP is bad? I only see 4 votes for him. Honestly you and bAss arguing so strngly agianst this makes me wonder why?

Linki

kneel4justice wrote:I will consider voting WOG as an option so that we can possibly learn things in the night phase about MP or at least have more time to discuss the decision. I do think there are aspects of MP that are suspicious but he is a large contributor, and I wouldn't want to lynch him if he is civvie. I feel like it's a dumb choice, but I don't see people willing to vote MR, and I am not sure that I am willing to trust my instincts and go with MR after what happened with Russ, plus I am not sure there are enough to vote with me on MR.

This is how I feel on MR too. He would be getting my vote right now otherwise. However, I would like to keep MP in the game for now. Frankly I wont be surprised if WOG flips civ though.

Linki - i think MP is open to saving himself however needed at this point.

And there it is.

Omg let me post!

S~V~S wrote:I am always a top poster, Hedge, good or bad. Back in the day, baddies were always low posters, but that was when most games had only one baddie crew. It was a lot harder to be bad under those conditions. Being a high poster was a sign of civvieness. For me, though, it is just that i like to talk. srsly lol

Well since MP seems to have considered it "challenge accepted" situation and is now the top poster, I could test my theory for sure, by notmhelping save him. However, I feel the best about him so far and dont want to waste another lynch on a civ.

At this point I may just go the WOG route.

Linki the only ones i can think of yeah.