The Syndicate

I don't think anyone should discuss the American Gods accounts publicly without affecting the game. Any issues should be brought to INH, MP, SVS in PM at this point I think. I haven't discussed it due to some of the points DH makes above.

INH, this was a great game concept and I greatly enjoyed the theme and some of the twists. Thanks for all the work you put into this. It's lot more fun having btsc in a game, so it was great we all got to do this as well.

ebwop: a tie...

A tie!

insertnamehere wrote:
A Person wrote:Also, to try and avoid being annoying, one last question: What was the point of the last poll if you didn't end the day? The time period has long expired.
To see if by some act of god it wouldn't be a tie. It was.

Irene isn't really dead you know. She could help you with that tie issue you've been having.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Matt F wrote:I enjoyed the game when I was in it, and still do, INH!
This. This was truly an amazing game.

Word.

*crickets*

DharmaHelper wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Funny how DH likes unorthodox rules (like free rezzes for no reason) only when they work in his favor.

What rezz?

I am thoroughly amused by this event btw. I completely agree with Bullz' point, especially if this were a normal game. But nothing has been normal about this game. Plus I.O.U. can only vote once right? So someone thought of it and used it. Points to them for quick thinking. However, it's going to be INH's call entirely since he's the host, even if some of us think it is unfair. (Learned that from you Bullz!

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MP voted in the wrong category, maybe his vote wont count either.

^This is probably a sign that I should go to sleep.

thellama73 wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:if you have one rezz how will that do any good? There are two votes against Bullz already. I could vote AP or Goose now, but Bullz or someone else could still easily be lynched.
Don't listen to him, Hedge. He is a liar. Look into the eyes of your firstborn child, whom I have met, and know that my advice is good.

Well my son is sleeping, so the eye thing will have to wait till morning.

I was more interested in the logic of the rezz option than actually being rezzed. I also doubt, even if DH weren't lying, that any rezz will be given out to voters of Goose or AP if they weren't actually lynched in the process.

if you have one rezz how will that do any good? There are two votes against Bullz already. I could vote AP or Goose now, but Bullz or someone else could still easily be lynched.

Vompatti wrote:Pretzels don't really taste like anything.

How about chocolate covered twisty pretzels then? Or the large soft pretzels with mustard? I don't recommned eating them at the same time though.

I like twisty pretzels

Epignosis wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:It's better than 6.
Too bad your girlfriend wasn't.

Mongoose wrote:I wish someone would serve me some pickles.

Tragedy of my life.

Snow Dog wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Disappointed that the image for this Host Post was not naked Irene Adler.

Shame on you.

DharmaHelper wrote:B-B-B-But we trusted you

I guess you could say these are your...... JUST DESERTS!

Just a desert? So nothing super cool like the Sahara?

Elo- I just liked the sound of 'cute conniving couple' since I was voting for you both. I didnt mean you had been conniving together so much.

Well, looks like still Epi had to vote. Have fun ya'll! (I am back to my vacation in Portland. Maybe I'll drink some microbrew tonight to drown my sorrows...

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DharmaHelper wrote:
Matt F wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:So if I suggest you kill Hedge then you'll go back to being my #1 Fan?
You know, as long as you keep responding to me, I have no choice but to delay my Sam and Dean time.

And yes. She's on her way out, though, don't know why you would want to waste it on her.
Well if Epig and Elo are the ones jailed... Hedge'll be a good kill IMO.

Really? You didn't like my new names for you? I thought they were cute.

I am clearly not the threat in this game, but waste an NK at DH's request just like other have wasted their powers for "alliances".

Snow Dog wrote:I didn't mean to quote the whole damn thing..

Snow Dog wrote:Hedge

insertnamehere wrote:
This game is very different from the average game of mafia. There are no mafia or civilians, only 8 teams of two. There is also open BTSC, meaning that anyone can PM anyone about the game. Feel free to make alliances, and trade information. Also, any player can also trade certain powers to other players. For example, if Person A has a role block that is tradeable, he can give that role block to Person B, for Person B to use at his own discretion. This is also a strategy for alliances, and could be used to buy other people's vote. If you would like to make a transaction, PM me with what you would like to trade, and who you would like to give it to. This wheeling and dealing is not only allowed, but encouraged.

See thats what I thought, but DH said it was only things won in puzzles, so I asked.

INH - could you clarify what is tradeable?

Not that it matters since I'll probably be a goner. Since my hand is forced I am voting off the Epi/Elo. You were a cute conniving couple while it lasted

DharmaHelper wrote:Fair Point Matt, I just thought it was interesting to hear two completely different sides of my game I guess.

Yep, it's amazing, but two incredibly different people, like me and Matt have differing opinions too.

It was not a coordinated assualt if thats what you were thinking. And an open btsc game does rewrite the rules it seems, so I am not used to it and still think it crosses a line for me. Also, I never promised you and Bullz anything. We haven't even spoken except in thread, minus one PM with Bullz in the beginning. I had a lovely time in btsc with Bullz in BS, but I knew he'd be perfectly capable of throwing me over when the time came and didnt want a repeat of the shock of Bioshock.

Snow- how did you trade your NK? I thought we couldnt trade abilities?

Linki- its ok . i wasnt hurt by not being invited.

Matt- you dont want my suggestions? Or anyone elses?

Bullzeye wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote: I guess I agree that at this point Bullz/Dh have played the slimiest game and therefore should win for being willing to go all out and post PMs and Btsc chatter in thread. That for me actually feels like it crossed a line. Of course there are double-crossings in this game, thats the point. But how its come about and the way Bullz/DH play the "poor us" card is just an act and they know it.
DH and I got a PM showing that Elo had been double-crossing us. AGAIN. After we trusted her the first time. So I posted it in the thread as the reason for my vote, so that there could be no doubt as to who had screwed who. The stuff we were sent about your alliance with MP and everyone we posted to show that MP was no better than his claims about us, and to prove that we weren't the only ones making alliances.

Of course I was part of an alliance with MP. He was my teammate! And Bullz you are a super smart veteran player in this game and have been a double-agent for civ/baddies before. What did you think when as MP's teammate, I didnt join the alliance of 8?

Clearly there were mutliple chatzys going on for you as well, so to pretend is was this huge double-cross is dishonest, but then thats what this game is about. You are not the victim here, but keeping trying to sell that cause its working really well for you obviously.

Snow Dog wrote:
Vompatti wrote:By the way, I'm not a drone.

Also, Matt F specifically asked me whom to use his NK on, so I obviously told him to use it on Snowy.

Vomps is just being logical Snowy. Who are the biggest single threats to all our survival? You and Matt with Nks, so naturally he'd suggest for you to try and take each other out. It wasn't personal I'd guess.

I guess I agree that at this point Bullz/Dh have played the slimiest game and therefore should win for being willing to go all out and post PMs and Btsc chatter in thread. That for me actually feels like it crossed a line. Of course there are double-crossings in this game, thats the point. But how its come about and the way Bullz/DH play the "poor us" card is just an act and they know it.

We all know Bullz/DH and Snow/AP will have to turn on each other to finish the game, some of us were just willing to admit it earlier is all.

Really voting for me? As this huge threat now that you took out my teammate? At least my continuing to vote for DH would actually break-up another team. Epi is also on my list now for sharing btsc and I assume Lizzy/vomps as well for sharing PMs.

Since it seems I one of the last voters, it doesnt matter, but Im going to think on for a bit.

Matt F wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:
Matt F wrote:Who should I attempt to NK tonight?
(Matt F suddenly receives multiple PMs with suggestions )
Quite the opposite. Nobody wants to play with me.

I'm a food server, Elo. I get people Iced Tea and burgers and other stuffs.

Maybe cause we are all afraid you'll NK us if we get on your bad side.

Matt F wrote:Who should I attempt to NK tonight?

(Matt F suddenly receives multiple PMs with suggestions

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Voted Dramaquim for MP!

DharmaHelper wrote:HELLO?!?

Snow Dog wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
Mongoose wrote:Hi ie was in car acinde tbut I have mullces relamxer! mist the voipte but IW ill laaorund. also I havnket reLa dmany of PM S yet sorry'`
I hope you're k and I hope you'll be even more k soon k
Seconded!

Oh! Fifthed! Feel better dear Mongoose. Also, we drove past Mongoose Ct on our way to the airport yesterday!

(Vomps, your post lives on

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Snow Dog wrote:No more nights? Like a polar summer.

I am wondering if Bullz or INH could explain?

I assume this means people are going straight to jail with no court?

DharmaHelper wrote:FredgeOwl.

Matt F wrote:Snap! She called DH Dramahelper!

Whoops, typing in the car is hard .

On my way to the airport. Voting DramaHelper.

I go celebrate my Birthday again and crazy sh*t happens again?? I love this game!!!

WB Lizzy and Matt F! I have no idea what's going on, but who cares!

I had the girliest drink tonight. It was sooo pink and even called Girls Revamped, but man was it tasty.

Are we having fun yet??!?!

Lizzy dearest, I think you'd be real proud of us today.

Bullzeye wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote: Not to mention someone else has been saying DH wants A Person gone. Funny that, it kind of matches the votes from A Person's court. I look forward to hearing back from INH regarding that change. I am voting AP as well, either it will force you to actually help your alliance partners (who you have not seemed too faithful to so far as far as I can tell) or it will make you show your true colors to them. One way you lose a get out jail free card. One way you lose a vote. Let's see which it will be, shall we?
I may have saved AP already in a different way (hopefully someone here takes the hint!). Honestly we did change our votes. Then we thought Snow had betrayed us so we changed them back. Here's the full story:

Matt F screws us up day one, puts me in an undefendable position that essentially reveals my partner.

Snow tells us his role and has a kill, we ask him to kill Matt and he says maybe.

We forgive Matt after much begging and despite our own best interests. The following night Matt decides we've betrayed him and messages me to that effect (we had like 3 pages of messages back and forth). The only person we'd spoken to about actively working against Matt was Snow, therefore if Matt was telling the truth Snow had betrayed us. If that was the case we saw no reason to save Snow's partner and changed our votes back.

After the lynch, Matt admits he was full of shit but it was too late for us to take back our votes. Luckily we didn't need to.

That's it. We also asked you (Daisy) not to work with Matt because we wanted him to ourselves so we could contain his crazy. You and MP have turned on me despite your own best interests and essentially conned yourselves out of a useful alliance. I also find it a little hypocritical of you both to be coming after me and DH saying how bad we are for having this big alliance that we're so obviously misleading when you're doing exactly the same. You, MP, Hedge, Jigsaw, Elo, and maybe others. You can't all win together and none of you intend to. Don't act like any of that isn't true.

In summary: NO U

I am actually a bit surprised that Bullz and DH are acting as if this was totally unexpected. I guess it's one strategy to spin it that way and you can take on the victim "poor us" defense now for sure. What kind of game did you think we were playing? You had an alliance of 8 including MP, but not his game partner? Really you thought that was going to work out fine? Both of you are clearly smart fellas, so I don't buy it.

We were all taken by surprise in Bioshock, but that's not the kind of game we are playing now. Why do you think Epi won't align himself more permanently or Lizzy? Because that's not how this game works and you and DH know it too. Sure you could have ridden the super alliance wave for a while, but really you wanted the players with kills near you so you'd be protected since they are the biggest threat.

Also, why is everyone just using their powers at the request of alliance members? We have the option to trade and bargain for what we need through INH. Don't give away something for nothing unless it benefits you too!

Lizzy posted the list in thread for the sole purpose of breaking up the super alliance. She knew it would blow up eventually, but wanted the game to be on more even footing again. Vomps is a role checker, so I don't think it was too hard to piece together with llama, vomps, and pm'ing people for info.

I also had a non- aggression clause with Lizzy, but she told me to vote for her and vote to Save her later due to the tricky situation. However, what I heard is that you abstained from the vote Bullz in order to not "break" it. So that's not really sticking to the agreement is it?

There is one player who can confirm our votes, but I doubt he will.

So did you get the prize or did a 2nd person e-mail an answer to puzzle #1 yet?

If so, then you are correct, where is Puzzle #2?

Snow Dog wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Am I nuts or has there been a distinct lack of riddles n such.
Is this a riddle?

I don't think we get more puzzles until someone solves puzzle #1, which doesn't seem to have happened. Maybe DH should give it a try since he's such a good puzzle solver?

Anyone want to have on topic discussion in thread where we discuss the pros and cons of various candidates to send to court? No? Not even to let INH and the jailbirds know we are playing the frick out of this awesome game? You sure? Ok.

Votes AP

DharmaHelper wrote:Where are all the votes yo srs.

There are only a few votes missing and now just jigsaw and vomps. Is that what you mean or are talking oddly for some other reason today?

Even though you are not such a threat, the masses have spoken Lizzy, and apparently they do not like being outed in thread!

Votes Lizzy

Ebwop: might not*

Mongoose wrote:Oh I'm still here apparently? Cool.

You might be who you think anymore mongoosy.

insertnamehere wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
Lizzy wrote:Omg ture and I can confirm that ALL the ones there are correct kay.
Oh my religious figure. Okay. I embrace you with my body. Let's get drunk.
Not in the thread ok? the body embracing that is. Drink all you like in here.
I don't know what happened there, but I stand behind what I said.
Totally not abusing my ability to edit posts...

My post was not edited because I typed in that way on purpose due to rule #15!

Ebwop: Or not Are

Elohcin wrote:he must have replaced mongoose and is now sherlock

Well that's hilarious on soo many levels! Are maybe just one...

Vompatti wrote:
Lizzy wrote:Omg ture and I can confirm that ALL the ones there are correct kay.
Oh my religious figure. Okay. I embrace you with my body. Let's get drunk.

Not in the thread ok?

the body embracing that is. Drink all you like in here.

Snow Dog wrote:I was silenced in the day just gone

After no one was killed. Hmm. So was anyone silenced after Llama was killed?

Snow Dog wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Lol, I'm just screwing with you, man. Don't sweat it.
I'm not. I was being straight faced pretending you got it right. Interesting that The Golem didn't kill again though.

It may be crazy, but this supports my theory that golem can only kill when we dont vote someone to jail.

Anyone think this could be true? Or has anyone actually been silenced or targeted by Golem again?

Did I miss Snowys vote for MP? Looks like LA is heading to court, so LA it is.

Votes LA

Elohcin wrote:Yeah, I'm kind-of wondering if they are secretly forming a Mafia of some sort in jail. Although, I guess that wouldn't make sense if we already know it is a LMS game. I am not sure. Any ideas?

the food was good. The cake was a hit. Everyone got pictures before it was destroyed

I didn't play Twin Peaks, but it sounds like anything could happen in an INH game. Prison alliances would make a lot of sense. Right now Matt is alone, so any volunteers? He needs someone to talk to clearly.

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